I have the following question: Is it possible to install the android version of GPE on a regular Moto G? And if that is possible, i will can update via OTA in the next Android launches?
Judging from the s4 and HTC one. Yes you can probably flash it, but no ota's won't work.
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jusada said:
Judging from the s4 and HTC one. Yes you can probably flash it, but no ota's won't work.
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If its like the HTC One., you will get OTA's.
If it's like the S4, you will not get OTA's.
Because our bootloader is unlockable, I'm hoping we will be able to easily convert just like it's easy to convert unlocked Moto X's over to different carriers / firmware. And if so, we will get OTA's as well.
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Very much looking forward to the Google Play Edition ROM becoming available for the Moto G sold by Motorola. That will mean I could have both the GPE ROM plus the use of the 1700 / 2100 MHz (AWS) band that is used by T-Mobile for 3G HSPA+ / 4G in the USA.
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I am probably going to purchase a Moto G soon and want to make sure I get the correct one. Obviously no one has the Google Play edition yet, but what do you think the differences could be between the Moto G from Motorola and the GPE version? I know that the GPE won't have any of Motorola's preinstalled apps, but are there differences in the code or anything? Thanks, any help is appreciated.
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It is the same Smartphone as far as wie know at the moment Like you said nobody has it just now. gpe is full aosp without modification
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It will not differ much with the reular Moto G is guess as its almost stock too with a few handy extras.
I'm guessing the main and most noticeable difference will be the easily unlockable boot loader for the GPE and that it won't have the moto apps. Idk and maybe slightly faster updates than the moto version??
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The main advantage of a Play Edition Moto G would appear to be its ability to get timely updates. The firstAndroid 4.4 KitKat update rolled out to Moto G devices just last week, which means that it trailed the original 4.4 launch by a couple of months. The Play Edition will likely get updates much faster
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GPE replaces highly modded phones with unmodded stock aosp
As moto g was near stock aosp... NOT many changes will be seen
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GPE replaces highly modded phones with unmodded stock aosp
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They are hardly stock AOSP anymore. It appears it doesn't come with the AOSP messaging app but uses Hangouts and it may also come with the new Google Dialer. So while a lot of it is based on AOSP, GPE is much more than that.
Original Moto G is more AOSP than GPE.
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The main advantage of a Play Edition Moto G would appear to be its ability to get timely updates. The firstAndroid 4.4 KitKat update rolled out to Moto G devices just last week, which means that it trailed the original 4.4 launch by a couple of months. The Play Edition will likely get updates much faster
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GPE replaces highly modded phones with unmodded stock aosp
As moto g was near stock aosp... NOT many changes will be seen
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Hmm, the Moto G was released after 4.4, so it doesn't really count.
Which one is better? I want moto apps like active display,smart actions etc.
Moto G GPE will already have 4.4 out of the box
Moto G GPE is Fully Vanilla AOSP
Moto G GPE has Stock Camera APP not the modified one
Moto G GPE has no Motorola Assist
Moto G GPE might get faster Updates then Moto G cause it is more naked than naked as our Moto G already is
Hope this will be flashable on our normal Moto G's
And much better it would be if we then can get GPE's OTA updates
The google play edition will get updates in days rather than months.
Also, it will get official updates further into the future than the normal Moto G. Normal Moto G might not get anything further than 4.4.x.
It will also have none of the Motorola junk, hence it will not slow down over time.
I really wish Motorola launches this in India also. Since Google play store is already selling devices in India, they just need to add one more.
What about active display?
Moto G has none of the extra features of Moto X.
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Will we be able to flash gpe Rom to normal Moto G?
Is that possible with other gpe phones?
It should be straight forward to flash the GE rom to our Moto G's as the hardware same & the software is near enough stock Android as it is, & we won't be loosing much compared to the GE additions of the HTC One & Samsung Galaxy S4, but gaining an advantage of quicker updates when available .
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Will we be able to flash gpe Rom to normal Moto G?
Is that possible with other gpe phones?
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Of course, they are identical apart from some software missing in the GPE.
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Of course, they are identical apart from some software missing in the GPE.
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Is there any chance to work missing software on GPE?
Dhiraj said:
Is there any chance to work missing software on GPE?
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Probably.
No FM Radio on GPE.
https://support.google.com/playedition/answer/4484953?hl=en&ref_topic=4484885
Features not included
FM Radio
Motorola Assist
Motorola Boot Services
Motorola Camera
Moto Care/Help
Motorola Connect
Motorola Device ID
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No FM Radio on GPE.
https://support.google.com/playedition/answer/4484953?hl=en&ref_topic=4484885
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But i guess it would be no problem to extract the apk and install it on the GPE right?
Will it be possible to turn my unlocked U.S GSM Moto G into a Google Play Edition with it being able to receive OTA updates from Google?
My Moto G is all stock atm.
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it should be possible by soon, just as its possible for HTC one and GS4 to turn into their google edition roms.
I just hope it's possible for dual sim as well since the google edition one is only out in single sim version
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Will it be possible to turn my unlocked U.S GSM Moto G into a Google Play Edition with it being able to receive OTA updates from Google?
My Moto G is all stock atm.
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you will likely need to unlock your bootloader but other than that, it should absolutely be possible.
And I'll need root, correct? I remember when I had my at&t HTC one that you couldn't just flash the GPe edition ROM for OTA updates you had to do something else for that..
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ztmike said:
And I'll need root, correct?
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Most likely not. But we will not know until they post the rom.
why would you want to do this ?
cra1g321 said:
why would you want to do this ?
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Why not? Some people may appreciate the Google Dialer or the pure Nexus experience.
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why would you want to do this ?
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New dialer, no bloatware, full list of system languages (like Russian for example)
I am waiting for such conversion guide. I did the same with my HTC One before.
UPD: As I am using Nexus 5 I want only stock Android on my other devices . Because 4.4.2 is awesome ) I really enjoy it.
Thanks for the replies, i wasn't asking it to sound rude,
just didnt know what the differences where.
I don't know about u guys but I have the Google dialer on my stock-non rooted US GSM moto g. On 4.4... It's the same one as my nexus 4...
So besides the camera software and no Motorola features/ apps (which I find cool/ useful like the battery saver) there's really no difference.... Yeah software updates... Whatever.
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I don't know about u guys but I have the Google dialer on my stock-non rooted US GSM moto g. On 4.4... It's the same one as my nexus 4...
So besides the camera software and no Motorola features/ apps (which I find cool/ useful like the battery saver) there's really no difference.... Yeah software updates... Whatever.
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It's a win win situation for Moto G owners.
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why would you want to do this ?
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Faster Android updates and probably outlast Motorola's updates..as OEMs typically stop putting out updates once another device comes and steals the thunder.
As for the dailer I think that's still exclusive to the Nexus 5 where it shows a picture based on the number which it gets from a automatic Google search I think..possibly more features.
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Faster Android updates and probably outlast Motorola's updates..as OEMs typically stop putting out updates once another device comes and steals the thunder.
As for the dailer I think that's still exclusive to the Nexus 5 where it shows a picture based on the number which it gets from a automatic Google search I think..possibly more features.
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IMO we don't know yet if GPE versions will actually be faster.
Moto mostly just added a few Moto apps for their OEM version. That's why they had 4.4 ready so fast I think.
And the reality with GPE is that the OEM, Motorola, is actually responsible for the work.
So Moto could decide to release simultaneous or delay one or the other.
If they ship both OEM and GPE 4.5's shortly after Android 4.5 is announced, that will make them look good (and will be good), and I'd bet that's part of their plan.
An unlocked Moto X can have the bootloader unlocked and then have different firmwares flashed to it. For example, I had a Moto X from Mexico...sim unlocked. I unlocked the bootloader, of course voiding the warranty and I flashed the ATT firmware to it. So I basically converted it to a ATT Moto X. Which is similar to converting a ATT HTC One to a GPe HTC One etc.
Nevertheless, because our Moto G's bootloader can be unlocked and we can flash firmwares etc once it unlocked, I'm assuming we'll be able to flash the GPe Firmware to our Moto G..
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Did Motorola just decide to stop updating for this model of the Moto G?
I'm assuming they just didn't feel it was different enough from 4.4.3 since this was one of the first models to get that build.
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Why does this phone have barely any development ?
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No free bootlader
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No free bootlader
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No one found an unlock for it yet?
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No, and LG doesn't help
ATT Note 4/5, VZ Moto X-2, VZ Moto E-2, and many other devices have locked bootloaders with no known exploits. The ATT Flex 2 (and maybe G4+V10) is included.
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ATT Note 4/5, VZ Moto X-2, VZ Moto E-2, and many other devices have locked bootloaders with no known exploits. The ATT Flex 2 (and maybe G4+V10) is included.
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Well this sucks, would have been a great device to work on
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"I have some news with respect to our Android Marshmallow 6.0 upgrades.
This afternoon we have started to fully rollout Android Marshmallow 6.0 on 2015 Moto X Pure Edition (3rd Gen) with the following carriers; Verizon, Sprint and USC.
In addition, we have started the soak test period in Brazil and India retail for the 2015 Moto X Play and in Brazil retail for the 2015 Moto X Force.
We are continuing to work to rollout Android Marshmallow 6.0 to the previously announced devices as listed on the Official Motorola Blog.
Thanks and enjoy!"
Posted on G+ 5 hrs ago by David Shuster of Motorola
Any update on AT&T?
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t2jbird said:
Any update on AT&T?
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I'm in the same boat, I'm on Cricket. Other sites stated At&t & T-Mobile (probably) to follow...
I'm reading other people are popping out their SIMs and getting the update : "Just installed my marshmallow update on my Moto x pure edition. I'm neither on any of the US carriers. I took out my sim, searched for updates and I got the OTA update notification and installed. Good luck guys! "
This has NOT worked for me
oops, pulled sim and updated. Hopefully, this will not effect the tmobile carrier update..
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I'm reading other people are popping out their SIMs and getting the update : "Just installed my marshmallow update on my Moto x pure edition. I'm neither on any of the US carriers. I took out my sim, searched for updates and I got the OTA update notification and installed. Good luck guys! "
This has NOT worked for me
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Tried rebooting after pulling SIM, if it was still on when pulling it then checking for the update?
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Tried rebooting after pulling SIM, if it was still on when pulling it then checking for the update?
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I've tried every which way
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I've tried every which way
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hopefully you wont have to do this but when i had my Nexus 6 i bought directly from moto with my verizon SIM in it, I had to do a factory reset with the SIM removed in order for it to get the OTAs that were pushed directly from google.:fingers-crossed:
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hopefully you wont have to do this but when i had my Nexus 6 i bought directly from moto with my verizon SIM in it, I had to do a factory reset with the SIM removed in order for it to get the OTAs that were pushed directly from google.:fingers-crossed:
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That's exactly what I was thinking of trying...
Anyone know the build number is it the same as the soak test earlier
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Anyone know the build number is it the same as the soak test earlier
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Yes, it is
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Why is anyone waiting at this point anyway? We know the files are the same and the download is available for anyone to flash. There is no T-Mobile update coming other than this one.
What's the build number of the latest rollout?
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Why is anyone waiting at this point anyway? We know the files are the same and the download is available for anyone to flash. There is no T-Mobile update coming other than this one.
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In general I would agree, but if there technically is no difference, why didn't GSM users on ATT and TMo get the update? Band 12 certification is only a TMo issue, so shouldn't have impacted ATT.
I have this nagging feeling that Moto isn't telling us something, and with the absence of a true signed factory restore file, I'm a little gun shy about flashing something that may impact my ability to get a proper OTA a little down the line...
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While I'm technically on ATT my just received replacement MXP has not seen a sim card yet and I get the OTA just fine.
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In general I would agree, but if there technically is no difference, why didn't GSM users on ATT and TMo get the update? Band 12 certification is only a TMo issue, so shouldn't have impacted ATT.
I have this nagging feeling that Moto isn't telling us something, and with the absence of a true signed factory restore file, I'm a little gun shy about flashing something that may impact my ability to get a proper OTA a little down the line...
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I tried yesterday. I turned off my phone, removed my sim card and reboot it. No OTA. Well, I'm in Canada so maybe that didn't help much. [emoji14]
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In Utah, removed sim card, waited a few minutes checked for update, no dice! Repeated the process multiple fine with no chance. Bought moto x through moto maker and rocking T-Mobile
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UK always gets left behind
Finally just got update with Cricket Wireless SIM card Inserted.