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What's the state of GPS on this phone in todays date ? Did it ever get fixed to be as accurate as other phones ?
Update 9/30/10: I was pretty hopeless about the GPS after reading all of your comments. Today I met a dude on campus with a captivate. We were sitting inside a building, so I decided to test out his captivate against my Eris. I turned GPS on on both devices, and started google maps. The captivate got a lock withing 10 seconds as did my Eris. My eris had an accuracy of 40m, while the captivate had 60m. Not bad, considering what I have been reading here.
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What's the state of GPS on this phone in todays date ? Did it ever get fixed to be as accurate as other phones ?
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Mine works perfectly.
much improved since update
does better than any of my winmo phones ever did
Update supposedly did not contain a GPS fix. Supposedly getting the official fix by months end as per level 2 Samsung tech.
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droidal said:
Update supposedly did not contain a GPS fix. Supposedly getting the official fix by months end as per level 2 Samsung tech.
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this month or next ?
I read end of this month on the GPS analysis thread today.
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GPS is much better since update
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GPS is much better since update
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The update did nothing for the GPS. The GPS is still junk on these phones. Samsung is one of the most disorganised companies there are.
My gps works fine. But then again I don't sit around waiting for the manufacturer... I sit around waiting for devs.
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Even with the tweaks that people put out on here it's still worthless. I don't know if it's an issue with the drivers that control the GPS or what but it's not normal for it to be this bad. I sent my phone back to Wirefly and if they send me a new one I know the GPS is still going to be junk on it so I may sell it and buy a different phone that runs on at&t.
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The update did nothing for the GPS. The GPS is still junk on these phones. Samsung is one of the most disorganised companies there are.
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Actually my gps sucked balls before the update and now works extremely well. The update may not have contained a gps fix but mine has been much improved since the update. Before the update I would be lucky to lock onto 1 sat. Now I am able to lock onto 7-9 sats in under 20 seconds and pretty much stay locked.
Are you using the GPS Test app to get these locks? Or is there something else that shows how many satellites you're receiving info from? Because I can get 10 satellites 'locked' no problem using the GPS test app, but Google Maps or the Navigation app both still take forever to show my location, and track my movement, most of which is completely wrong (for ex it will have me driving in fields instead of on roads).
For me I can now lock indoors, which I could never do before. This is in the Gmaps app
Also I can actually get a lock in an urban setting (apts and buildings everywhere) and not have to stand out in a field somewhere for five minutes
There has to be some kind of tweak in the latest update, there just has to
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Are you using the GPS Test app to get these locks? Or is there something else that shows how many satellites you're receiving info from? Because I can get 10 satellites 'locked' no problem using the GPS test app, but Google Maps or the Navigation app both still take forever to show my location, and track my movement, most of which is completely wrong (for ex it will have me driving in fields instead of on roads).
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I use gps test to see how many locks I'll get. But, I can fire up google maps or google navigation without warming up with gps test and still be up and running within 20 seconds.
Gathering anecdotal reports on whether the GPS is fixed is worthless.
Some people get a lock indoors and think it is fixed, while others do serious Google Navigation and My Tracks testing and find it is not fixed.
I do not think the GPS is fixed to be as accurate as other phones. Yes, it has improved since stock, but stock was garbage -- now it is just poor.
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Gathering anecdotal reports on whether the GPS is fixed is worthless.
Some people get a lock indoors and think it is fixed, while others do serious Google Navigation and My Tracks testing and find it is not fixed.
I do not think the GPS is fixed to be as accurate as other phones. Yes, it has improved since stock, but stock was garbage -- now it is just poor.
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What he said.
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Mine works perfectly.
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You people keep saying it works on your captivates. We know your either full of it or have a special edition phone that no one else got. No bodies captivate works 100% on GPS. If you think yours works then PROVE it!!! Take a long drive and track it on a map and post it here. I've yet to see such. QUIT SAYING IT WORKS WHEN IT DON'T.
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You people keep saying it works on your captivates. We know your either full of it or have a special edition phone that no one else got. No bodies captivate works 100% on GPS. If you think yours works then PROVE it!!! Take a long drive and track it on a map and post it here. I've yet to see such. QUIT SAYING IT WORKS WHEN IT DON'T.
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Thank You! Locking on Satellites DOES NOT mean the GPS works - Hell you can just use location to find out where you are - GPS is for MOVEMENT and how WELL it keeps up with MOVEMENT. If People keep saying that it works it's improved after the update - Samsung nor At&t will do anything to fix it (don't believe me just call them and they will get angry telling you how the update fix ALL that was wrong with the phone). PLEASE stop posting it's FIXED or IT WORKS because it can see and lock on satellites. Drive/Walk with this phone and then ANY other phone - Trust it will make you want to SLAP someone at Samsung & At&t.
i admit after the JH7 update, gps locks in alot quicker! but it still samsung garbage! gps navigation show Turn right on Pine Ave, i turned Pine ave 2 block ago, gps navigation still showing Turn right on Pine ave. or i waiting at red light waiting to make a turn on Pine ave, gps navagion already tell me the next turn Turn right on Rose Ave. so do i turn right on Pine or keep driving straight and turn right on Rose?
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i admit after the JH7 update, gps locks in alot quicker! but it still samsung garbage! gps navigation show Turn right on Pine Ave, i turned Pine ave 2 block ago, gps navigation still showing Turn right on Pine ave. or i waiting at red light waiting to make a turn on Pine ave, gps navagion already tell me the next turn Turn right on Rose Ave. so do i turn right on Pine or keep driving straight and turn right on Rose?
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Are you sure this is a GPS problem and not crap code for navigation app?
This question goes to anyone using CoPilot 8, MapQuest or any tracking software that isn't Google Maps 5.0. Are you keeping locks? Similar to how using LBStest mode allows for a faster and more stable lock than one from GMaps
I ask this because I just downloaded the new MapQuest thats free on the Market and I'm getting a lock down to 10 yards and Max 32 yards out. But the interesting thing about it is that it maintains the lock even when moving.
For those who are well aware of the GPS issue it isn't so much the locking as it the maintaining so my question was are people getting better results with GPS programs that aren't Google Maps? And if so do you think the issue with GPS may also be a conflict with how Google Maps utilizes the GPS drivers?
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This question goes to anyone using CoPilot 8, MapQuest or any tracking software that isn't Google Maps 5.0. Are you keeping locks? Similar to how using LBStest mode allows for a faster and more stable lock than one from GMaps
I ask this because I just downloaded the new MapQuest thats free on the Market and I'm getting a lock down to 10 yards and Max 32 yards out. But the interesting thing about it is that it maintains the lock even when moving.
For those who are well aware of the GPS issue it isn't so much the locking as it the maintaining so my question was are people getting better results with GPS programs that aren't Google Maps? And if so do you think the issue with GPS may also be a conflict with how Google Maps utilizes the GPS drivers?
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Yes I noticed the same thing, Google maps was very poor at keeping on track and locks. I switched to Navigon about 2 months ago and have never been happier. I really think all the GPS issue are related to Google maps and not the hardware as everyone is saying.
I just downloaded Mapquest app. Will test it out later today and report back. Will drive 1 way with google, and 1 way with Mapquest.
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This question goes to anyone using CoPilot 8, MapQuest or any tracking software that isn't Google Maps 5.0. Are you keeping locks? Similar to how using LBStest mode allows for a faster and more stable lock than one from GMaps
I ask this because I just downloaded the new MapQuest thats free on the Market and I'm getting a lock down to 10 yards and Max 32 yards out. But the interesting thing about it is that it maintains the lock even when moving.
For those who are well aware of the GPS issue it isn't so much the locking as it the maintaining so my question was are people getting better results with GPS programs that aren't Google Maps? And if so do you think the issue with GPS may also be a conflict with how Google Maps utilizes the GPS drivers?
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great...have been waiting for a mapquest app hadn't realized it was available yet. hopefully it works as well as the iphone mapquest app..gonna test it out on the ride home.
It always was odd to me that GPSTest would hold 7 satellite locks with a correct speedometer and whatnot, yet Googlemaps can't track me at all.
I played with MapQuest a bit the other day when it was released. During one drive it seemed to be a bit better than Google Nav in tracking, but was still sub-par. These observations weren't scientific by any means, but just what I noticed when I tried the app out.
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Yes I noticed the same thing, Google maps was very poor at keeping on track and locks. I switched to Navigon about 2 months ago and have never been happier. I really think all the GPS issue are related to Google maps and not the hardware as everyone is saying.
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It seems to be a convoluted issue. I can attest that with a Bluetooth GPS receiver for my Captivate that Google Maps/Navigator works marvelously, whereas it is marginal with just the Captivate GPS.
With that said I have not tried the other software referenced but I think I might give it a shot now.
Yeah I noticed for mine that GMaps at least 2 minutes in no matter what modem I was currently testing just go ahead and drop the signal. But on MapQuest it holds the signal and granted sometimes it shows me in the other lane but at least it moving with me lol
Hmm map quest shows where im sitting at in my house exactly while google maps has me out across the road... Ill test it navigation and tacking later. Wish it was more snappy as gmaps.
Truth is, I thought the same when Bing Maps came out but it still didn't track well at all.
I wonder if AT&T borked the GPS/Google Maps interaction to boost subscriptions to their paid navigation service
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I wonder if AT&T borked the GPS/Google Maps interaction to boost subscriptions to their paid navigation service
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Works great with other phones.
My brother's Bold has GPS lock in Google Maps up to 3 feet.
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Works great with other phones.
My brother's Bold has GPS lock in Google Maps up to 3 feet.
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I used to have the bold. Those things have exceptional radios! But really all I wanted to see here is if people were getting the same results with GPS alternatives
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you mean like they did with the Fuze?
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I just downloaded Mapquest app. Will test it out later today and report back. Will drive 1 way with google, and 1 way with Mapquest.
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Well, after my 15 mile drive, I actually saw better tracking with Google Navigation than with Mapquest.
Plus, I like the actual UI better.
It would have been worth switching for better tracking, but the Mpaquest app kept losing me, then finding me again. Next time to be sure, I'll use them again, but Google going, and Mapquest coming back.
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Well, after my 15 mile drive, I actually saw better tracking with Google Navigation than with Mapquest.
Plus, I like the actual UI better.
It would have been worth switching for better tracking, but the Mpaquest app kept losing me, then finding me again. Next time to be sure, I'll use them again, but Google going, and Mapquest coming back.
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Interesting I noticed the exact opposite and the Google Nav/Maps never maintains a lock or it holds it until it doesn't think I'm looking anymore lol. While MapQuest has successfully locked inside 10 seconds and held it
Do you have any GPS settings edited or are you just stock?
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It seems to be a convoluted issue. I can attest that with a Bluetooth GPS receiver for my Captivate that Google Maps/Navigator works marvelously, whereas it is marginal with just the Captivate GPS.
With that said I have not tried the other software referenced but I think I might give it a shot now.
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Yes. EXTREMELY convoluted. To point it's possible that the Google Maps Navigation could be responsible (it is still in beta after all). But then again, it seems to work just great on other devices.
I've been playing with software tweaks for a few weeks now, but in all honesty I'm not sure it's even possible to get it fixed with software alone as it seems likely that the hardware design is also to blame.
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Interesting I noticed the exact opposite and the Google Nav/Maps never maintains a lock or it holds it until it doesn't think I'm looking anymore lol. While MapQuest has successfully locked inside 10 seconds and held it
Do you have any GPS settings edited or are you just stock?
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I'm running Supernova 2.0.6, haven't changed any settings since flashing.
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I'm running Supernova 2.0.6, haven't changed any settings since flashing.
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Do you know if that ROM has the north-america.pool.ntp server GPS fix set? which basically just changes the region of the device gps
EDIT: Also what modem does it have? I'm using NKP1 (best results so far) and was going to test this with JL2 later
This gps issue seems no different then the issues experienced by HTC devices in the past. A quick scan through any gps topic usually produces drastically differwnt experiences ranging from. "never had a problem" to " im returning this pos!""
I just got my captivate and would be considered a gps power user i suppose. I use everytrail.com,gmaps w latitude and several other geocaching programs. i have yet to experience anything negatove with the reaction or tracking of the gps --- (wait for it)... That is to say nothing unexpected. I have some slight lag after not using ot for days, in the redwoods and many trails in california nothing short of a 500 dollar handheld dedicated gps will even get signal. My point being users who have been dealing with gps for a few years now seem to understand what is actually happening... And give the device some leeway. Ive worked in the field for gettropcs. Verizon sprint att.... NOTHING can be done when installing a Modcell until you triangulate. Tree cover, moisture, cloud cover, etc. Can all play a role. (nevermind the brainiacs in their bedroom with no windows who cant figure out why they cant lock)
BTWi paid fifty dollars for my captivates. Originally 150 thrpugh preimiere i walked into target and fell over when i saw them for fifty. I called Nd threatened to walk and they credited my account 100 dollars for each phone.
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I'm curious to know how many people are using Google now on their nexus s. I find it to be a huge battery drain so always turn it off. Do other users feel the same?
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I'm curious to know how many people are using Google now on their nexus s. I find it to be a huge battery drain so always turn it off. Do other users feel the same?
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I use it regularly since the start, I have no noticeable battery drain.
I use it and don't mind it, I get around 2 days of battery with moderate use and some calls. Wi-fi is always on, localization services are always on, mobile data (3G) is always off. It lasts me more than one day even if I keep using the phone so I'm fine with it.
I would say it 'eats' 10 to 50% more battery per charge depending on usage. If you have it mostly in standby you are more likely to notice the battery hit. If you keep using the phone for one thing or another, it won't make much difference.
With 4.2.1 it seems to hold pretty well while being very snappy. The official 4.1.2 follows the same trend (lasting around 2 days with the same use), but I really liked how fast it got with Air Kernel. I usually have around 200 MB free.
I'm currently using Rasbeanjelly (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2028718) with Air Kernel #270 (CM,Voodoo Colors http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1469842) and noop+SmartAssV2 setup. So far battery seems to hold up fine through the day. The only real downside I got from this was the occasional sleep of death (while using the phone, very weird, I would report it to the maintainer but I can't as I'm new around here), a FC when accessing Chrome settings (seems to be related with google sync feature) and the less stellar performance when changing orientation (same kernel and official 4.1.2 ROM doesn't have the issue).
Although it is handy sometimes, I think the worst aspect is the 'nagging' that Google Now has. Last time I got a "WTF" expression was with it saying that I walked 40Km that month more 20 than the last month, a nice feature, but completely unexpected, I would like to have a proper access to that kind of cards and the information that they provide... If you search weather it won't give you the same weather card shown automatically by it (at least for me).... one of these says it will be ready to take over the world...
G next should do you pretty well
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Never used it so far.
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I find it useless. I have my weather app, and I have my lottery app. Hockey has been cancelled, so I have no scores to keep checking. What would I use it for? Random google search? Meh.
I hate every time I accidentally hit the search button.
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I use Google Now because I'm fascinated by the creepiness of it. I like that when I'm at work, it tells me how long it will take me to get home if I leave now. I was confused when one Saturday at 11:45 am it was giving me the locations of nearby restaurants, then my wife said it's probably because it's almost lunch time. Google Now knows what I want before I do!
I haven't tried turning it off to save battery life yet, but I unplug from the charger at 6:30 am and plug in at midnight no problem.
I hate every time I accidentally hit the search button.
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I just disabled the search key in CM10. Check if your ROM has the option?
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I use Google Now because I'm fascinated by the creepiness of it. I like that when I'm at work, it tells me how long it will take me to get home if I leave now. I was confused when one Saturday at 11:45 am it was giving me the locations of nearby restaurants, then my wife said it's probably because it's almost lunch time. Google Now knows what I want before I do!
I haven't tried turning it off to save battery life yet, but I unplug from the charger at 6:30 am and plug in at midnight no problem.
I just disabled the search key in CM10. Check if your ROM has the option?
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thank God, I always hated that.
google now / voice search is miserable on the nexus s.
I've been using it since I got it and I like it. No noticeable battery drain as far as I'm concerned. Never used the search key in-app, so I don't miss it.
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....I use it every day-it works fine for me since I put system-language to us-english. As I am in Germany it was not so rich on info in my home- language settings.
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I use it every day because it is fantastic! I can get lots of information from it. I love it.
Ok. So I had previously disabled Google Now because it drained so much battery. But I was wanting to use it since the updates keep getting better so here's what I did to where it isn't destroying battery anymore.
I have Latitude and location updating turned off in Maps, but found out enabling Google Now turned location updating back on. So once you have Now enabled, go into Maps and uncheck where it says "Update my location from this device". It still works fine because I have location reporting (or something like that) turned on in Google sync in Settings. It still uses wifi and/or the towers to update your cards, but Maps isn't taking chunks out of the battery anymore.
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With 4.2.1 it seems to hold pretty well while being very snappy. The official 4.1.2 follows the same trend (lasting around 2 days with the same use), but I really liked how fast it got with Air Kernel. I usually have around 200 MB free.
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I'd like to know how the heck you have around 200mb free and still have a functioning system... At most I can get is around 170mb free... But at that, the phone becomes unstable because I had to shut off some system apps...
I'm using Matr1x now... But was using Air for a long while before switching... I'm also on the same ROM but for crespo4g
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Hello
I've been having thoughts about my battery stats on my i9505. I can pretty much go through the day but sometimes a full charge is just not enough. I usually get 1:30 to 2 hours of screen time, and have about 20-30% battery left.
Here's what I'm wondering: why does google services use this much battery?
I'm running stock rom with Chainfire's cf auto root.
Here's some statistics.
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I've had this issue in the past. Your going to have to do a factory reset my friend. That should resolve it.
try tunrning off google network location service, sometimes it helps
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Location services have been on for long and new firmware was flashed, with factory reset not 2 weeks ago... anyway , it's all right, i was just curious if I'm the only one with this...
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Your definitely not the only one. The only way I could fix mine was factory reset.
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I had the same problem with GE ROM, and after I put Location Services Off and then On again, the problem went away. I have Google now active.
Location service is the culprit. I had same issue on my S4. But I turned it off permanently and now I have nice battery life.
You can keep GPS on but turn off "Use wireless networks" option. Also make sure you have latest Play Store and Google Play Services installed on your phone.
try disabling the samsung push notification thingy... i suddenly started getting horrible battery life, and disabled this little guy yesterday... After 10 hrs of normal usage so far today, i still have 75% juice left
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I had the same problem with GE ROM, and after I put Location Services Off and then On again, the problem went away. I have Google now active.
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You have google now on and google services doesn't drain most of your battery? That's odd because i disabled and re enabled google now(and location services with it) some times and same battery drain every time ... did you have data and sync constantly on?
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You have google now on and google services doesn't drain most of your battery? That's odd because i disabled and re enabled google now(and location services with it) some times and same battery drain every time ... did you have data and sync constantly on?
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Yes I have data always on and all the syncs.
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Yes I have data always on and all the syncs.
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So you either using the phone extensively through the day which results to other things using up more battery ... or am i having a problematic phone? Or there is a magic setting that has to be made?
My average screen time is about 2-2,5 hours and that gets me easily 2-2 and half days of battery ... with same usage and google now on that's halved ... i m getting literally half the battery life with google now doing its thing ... without altering anything else on the phone ... just on and off google now ... which i ve been testing for a couple days ...
Yeah I don't see a daily benefit in phone knowing network location until I want a certain app to access my location. Try greenifying Network Location and any other wake lock apps that are NOT widgets or apps that u require notifications from (I greenified Google maps, play store and Google services). You will need greenify donate though (well worth it).
I got my standby battery almost flat instead of steady decline and can get an extra 10-20 hours of standby time.
Download betterybatterystats and find the culprits on your battery drain
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I had the same problem, I fixed When i disabled location services in location menu and uncheck all in google account except Gmail
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That's not really a fix though. That's a workaround. I've gotten it completely fixed by doing a factory reset but I haven't gotten it fixed any other way.
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That's not really a fix though. That's a workaround. I've gotten it completely fixed by doing a factory reset but I haven't gotten it fixed any other way.
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So you re implying that google services gets for some random reason bugged?
Just got my galaxy s4 a few days ago. Had the same problem so I decided to restore the firmware using kies. Now the google services takes very little battery.
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Just got my galaxy s4 a few days ago. Had the same problem so I decided to restore the firmware using kies. Now the google services takes very little battery.
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That's what I've said before in this post to correct it, but I feel some may not believe me.
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So you re implying that google services gets for some random reason bugged?
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Sorta, in a nutshell. I do believe it's a bad installation of the ROM that's causing the issue. If you're on a custom ROM that requires a gapps package the I would think reflashing the gapps package would do the trick to fix it but I can't promise that.
Don't have 10 posts, but I uploaded a screenshot to imgur, just add /GW1UrDo.
Obviously the issue is google services. What's strange is that it doesn't do this all the time, just once every few weeks...
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Hello
I've been having thoughts about my battery stats on my i9505. I can pretty much go through the day but sometimes a full charge is just not enough. I usually get 1:30 to 2 hours of screen time, and have about 20-30% battery left.
Here's what I'm wondering: why does google services use this much battery?
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I had the same problem.
Try to go to Settings--->Account--->Google and uncheck "App data" and "People details"
It worked for me.
I'm not sure if I'm misunderstanding this feature, but I assume, if I save a map to my phone, I should be able to get directions to any location on that map while my phone has no service.
For example, I just saved the entire San Diego county. While currently within that saved zone physically, I turned off my radio and wifi and tried to get directions to a street a few blocks away. This doesn't work. I just get "loading address..." indefinitely. What in the world is the point of offline maps if it does not work offline? Am I missing something here?
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I'm not sure if I'm misunderstanding this feature, but I assume, if I save a map to my phone, I should be able to get directions to any location on that map while my phone has no service.
For example, I just saved the entire San Diego county. While currently within that saved zone physically, I turned off my radio and wifi and tried to get directions to a street a few blocks away. This doesn't work. I just get "loading address..." indefinitely. What in the world is the point of offline maps if it does not work offline? Am I missing something here?
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Pretty sure directions will depend on a connection but you can save the map itself.
No. It saves the map itself to save your data connection while driving. But the directions still need a connection as they incorporate traffic details
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Pretty sure directions will depend on a connection but you can save the map itself.
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No. It saves the map itself to save your data connection while driving. But the directions still need a connection as they incorporate traffic details
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Thanks for the clarification... that's kind of silly IMO. Offline navigation needs to be added to make this feature worthwhile. There has been times while traveling where I need navigation and I have no reception. I then have to spend forever driving around looking for either public wifi or service.
I agree and a mph/kph speedo display and traffic speed cameras would be awesome too
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bilago said:
Thanks for the clarification... that's kind of silly IMO. Offline navigation needs to be added to make this feature worthwhile. There has been times while traveling where I need navigation and I have no reception. I then have to spend forever driving around looking for either public wifi or service.
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It wouldn't really work with offline navigation.
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It wouldn't really work with offline navigation.
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And why exactly? It's being done by many GPS companies with no issues...
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And why exactly? It's being done by many GPS companies with no issues...
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You would need maps of every single street downloaded and that isn't really ideal for an app rather than an actual GPS. They probably don't want to fill up storage too quickly for older devices either.
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You would need maps of every single street downloaded and that isn't really ideal for an app rather than an actual GPS. They probably don't want to fill up storage too quickly for older devices either.
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Devices with low storage have removable SD cards, the devices that do not have SD Cards have between 8GB - 32GB of space, way more than enough for saving map data for the entire country or even just the state you're in.
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Devices with low storage have removable SD cards, the devices that do not have SD Cards have between 8GB - 32GB of space, way more than enough for saving map data for the entire country or even just the state you're in.
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They probably want you to buy a full GPS device anyways. Google has other reasons why they probably don't want to.
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Letharqy said:
They probably want you to buy a full GPS device anyways. Google has other reasons why they probably don't want to.
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Well of course they don't want us to, it isn't hard to implement. It all comes down to the single fact of Data Mining. If we could navigate offline then Google will not get our usage information.
Letharqy said:
You would need maps of every single street downloaded and that isn't really ideal for an app rather than an actual GPS. They probably don't want to fill up storage too quickly for older devices either.
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The entire North America OSM is only 6GB. You could easily download states for a couple hundred MB each.
raptir said:
The entire North America OSM is only 6GB. You could easily download states for a couple hundred MB each.
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On older devices it would be a problem, my Xperia Arc S only has around 400mb internal and an 8gb SD card which gets filled pretty quick with apps/data Then as stated above, Google wants you to have connection so they can use it in their services/etc
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Letharqy said:
On older devices it would be a problem, my Xperia Arc S only has around 400mb internal and an 8gb SD card which gets filled pretty quick with apps/data Then as stated above, Google wants you to have connection so they can use it in their services/etc
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No one's talking about getting rid of the online mode.