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State of GPS on this phone ?

What's the state of GPS on this phone in todays date ? Did it ever get fixed to be as accurate as other phones ?
Update 9/30/10: I was pretty hopeless about the GPS after reading all of your comments. Today I met a dude on campus with a captivate. We were sitting inside a building, so I decided to test out his captivate against my Eris. I turned GPS on on both devices, and started google maps. The captivate got a lock withing 10 seconds as did my Eris. My eris had an accuracy of 40m, while the captivate had 60m. Not bad, considering what I have been reading here.

StDevious said:
What's the state of GPS on this phone in todays date ? Did it ever get fixed to be as accurate as other phones ?
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Mine works perfectly.

much improved since update
does better than any of my winmo phones ever did

Update supposedly did not contain a GPS fix. Supposedly getting the official fix by months end as per level 2 Samsung tech.
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droidal said:
Update supposedly did not contain a GPS fix. Supposedly getting the official fix by months end as per level 2 Samsung tech.
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this month or next ?

I read end of this month on the GPS analysis thread today.
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GPS is much better since update

saint168 said:
GPS is much better since update
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The update did nothing for the GPS. The GPS is still junk on these phones. Samsung is one of the most disorganised companies there are.

My gps works fine. But then again I don't sit around waiting for the manufacturer... I sit around waiting for devs.
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Even with the tweaks that people put out on here it's still worthless. I don't know if it's an issue with the drivers that control the GPS or what but it's not normal for it to be this bad. I sent my phone back to Wirefly and if they send me a new one I know the GPS is still going to be junk on it so I may sell it and buy a different phone that runs on at&t.

galaxyjeff said:
The update did nothing for the GPS. The GPS is still junk on these phones. Samsung is one of the most disorganised companies there are.
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Actually my gps sucked balls before the update and now works extremely well. The update may not have contained a gps fix but mine has been much improved since the update. Before the update I would be lucky to lock onto 1 sat. Now I am able to lock onto 7-9 sats in under 20 seconds and pretty much stay locked.

Are you using the GPS Test app to get these locks? Or is there something else that shows how many satellites you're receiving info from? Because I can get 10 satellites 'locked' no problem using the GPS test app, but Google Maps or the Navigation app both still take forever to show my location, and track my movement, most of which is completely wrong (for ex it will have me driving in fields instead of on roads).

For me I can now lock indoors, which I could never do before. This is in the Gmaps app
Also I can actually get a lock in an urban setting (apts and buildings everywhere) and not have to stand out in a field somewhere for five minutes
There has to be some kind of tweak in the latest update, there just has to

matt310 said:
Are you using the GPS Test app to get these locks? Or is there something else that shows how many satellites you're receiving info from? Because I can get 10 satellites 'locked' no problem using the GPS test app, but Google Maps or the Navigation app both still take forever to show my location, and track my movement, most of which is completely wrong (for ex it will have me driving in fields instead of on roads).
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I use gps test to see how many locks I'll get. But, I can fire up google maps or google navigation without warming up with gps test and still be up and running within 20 seconds.

Gathering anecdotal reports on whether the GPS is fixed is worthless.
Some people get a lock indoors and think it is fixed, while others do serious Google Navigation and My Tracks testing and find it is not fixed.
I do not think the GPS is fixed to be as accurate as other phones. Yes, it has improved since stock, but stock was garbage -- now it is just poor.

phr00t said:
Gathering anecdotal reports on whether the GPS is fixed is worthless.
Some people get a lock indoors and think it is fixed, while others do serious Google Navigation and My Tracks testing and find it is not fixed.
I do not think the GPS is fixed to be as accurate as other phones. Yes, it has improved since stock, but stock was garbage -- now it is just poor.
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What he said.

climber1872000 said:
Mine works perfectly.
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You people keep saying it works on your captivates. We know your either full of it or have a special edition phone that no one else got. No bodies captivate works 100% on GPS. If you think yours works then PROVE it!!! Take a long drive and track it on a map and post it here. I've yet to see such. QUIT SAYING IT WORKS WHEN IT DON'T.

whitenerj said:
You people keep saying it works on your captivates. We know your either full of it or have a special edition phone that no one else got. No bodies captivate works 100% on GPS. If you think yours works then PROVE it!!! Take a long drive and track it on a map and post it here. I've yet to see such. QUIT SAYING IT WORKS WHEN IT DON'T.
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Thank You! Locking on Satellites DOES NOT mean the GPS works - Hell you can just use location to find out where you are - GPS is for MOVEMENT and how WELL it keeps up with MOVEMENT. If People keep saying that it works it's improved after the update - Samsung nor At&t will do anything to fix it (don't believe me just call them and they will get angry telling you how the update fix ALL that was wrong with the phone). PLEASE stop posting it's FIXED or IT WORKS because it can see and lock on satellites. Drive/Walk with this phone and then ANY other phone - Trust it will make you want to SLAP someone at Samsung & At&t.

i admit after the JH7 update, gps locks in alot quicker! but it still samsung garbage! gps navigation show Turn right on Pine Ave, i turned Pine ave 2 block ago, gps navigation still showing Turn right on Pine ave. or i waiting at red light waiting to make a turn on Pine ave, gps navagion already tell me the next turn Turn right on Rose Ave. so do i turn right on Pine or keep driving straight and turn right on Rose?

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i admit after the JH7 update, gps locks in alot quicker! but it still samsung garbage! gps navigation show Turn right on Pine Ave, i turned Pine ave 2 block ago, gps navigation still showing Turn right on Pine ave. or i waiting at red light waiting to make a turn on Pine ave, gps navagion already tell me the next turn Turn right on Rose Ave. so do i turn right on Pine or keep driving straight and turn right on Rose?
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Are you sure this is a GPS problem and not crap code for navigation app?

Navigon Mobile Navigation

Just relased into the USA market today. Anyone using it? Seems pretty good according to the site but its$ 40 for the first 2 weeks then goes up to$ 60. Just wonfering how it is.http://www.navigon.com/portal/us/produkte/navigationssoftware/mobile_navigator_iphone_us.html the link is for the iphone but i guess they havnt updated the site.

Their support made me not want to ever buy another device from them.

why use that google maps is better

nick8197 said:
why use that google maps is better
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Based on my experience with the app on my 3gS, the advantage to this would be having the maps stored locally on the phone. Therefore you have some level of dead reckoning and aren't relying on your data connection to supply map data. AFAIK, gps is way more reliable connection wise than data. So with this app even if you have poor or no signal, the app can still work if there's gps.

What was there spport like?
I really would like to have lane assistance wich as far as i know google does not...neither does sprint.

I bought NAVIGON and their support SUCK. Don't waste your money. Their app sucks too.

DeathBySnuggles said:
Based on my experience with the app on my 3gS, the advantage to this would be having the maps stored locally on the phone. Therefore you have some level of dead reckoning and aren't relying on your data connection to supply map data. AFAIK, gps is way more reliable connection wise than data. So with this app even if you have poor or no signal, the app can still work if there's gps.
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i had this exact problem with my touch pro a couple summers ago. we were on a roadtrip through wyoming and had no cell connection. luckily i loaded up tomtom and cruised on.
it's just nice to have a backup in case googley maps fails ya

Yea ill keep my 60 google nav has never failed me
From the fade

CheesyNutz said:
Yea ill keep my 60 google nav has never failed me
From the fade
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Ya, if you are traveling local that's probably not an issue, but if you are traveling across states - it's likely that you will hit dead spots in your 3g or 1x coverage even and that means no google maps.

(Q) Nexus S Gps

So...I currently own a vibrant and want to pick up a nexus s mainly because I'll be guaranteed android upgrades. My main concern is if the nexus s utilizes the same gps chip as the other galaxy s phones. If it does, it is an epic fail because gps accuracy is still HORRID on these phones and would be a total dealbreaker.
Anyone know the answer?
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The Nexus S has an improved antenna.
But even then the GPS issues on the Galaxy S series were mostly software ones since they've now been patched between the update, and the app ont he market to reset the gps settings.

neok44 said:
The Nexus S has an improved antenna.
But even then the GPS issues on the Galaxy S series were mostly software ones since they've now been patched between the update, and the app ont he market to reset the gps settings.
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I've tried every fix out there and it still has me driving next to the highway in the woods or 2 blocks from where I'm standing.
My crappy Motorola cliq has pinpoint precision compare to the vibrant.
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neok44 said:
The Nexus S has an improved antenna.
But even then the GPS issues on the Galaxy S series were mostly software ones since they've now been patched between the update, and the app ont he market to reset the gps settings.
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But that mostly means that there is still a hardware issue and that means the difference between driving on the road and driving perpendicular to it.

mchimney said:
But that mostly means that there is still a hardware issue and that means the difference between driving on the road and driving perpendicular to it.
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Im still pretty sure its a SW error, friend has a Galaxy S phone, installed the latest leaked build for his phone and wala GPS lock in seconds

The Nexus S got recertified through FCC testing for upgraded BT/GPS hardware.

JCopernicus said:
The Nexus S got recertified through FCC testing for upgraded BT/GPS hardware.
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Now that's what I wanted to hear!
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REQUEST
Those who already have their phone: please make a GPS test as it follows:
choose a location outside which you can easily identify on google earth (a tree, a big rock, something small but visible on satellite view)
go out there and use an app which shows GPS coordinates - preferably the free app GPS test
stand next to object and get the coordinates, write it down, etc (for this wait a while till more precise fix)
go back to house, type the coordinates into Google Earth
measure the distance between the location you got with your phone and the real object using Google Earths measuring tool
post the results here

Well, I'm not gonna do all that, but maybe this will help.
I did a cold start on Maps. Got a lock on within 10 seconds. Pretty damn good. Now I'm using GPS Test app and was able to lock on all satellites. 7 out of 7. This is all within my house. Wifi is off.
I can happily say that GPS works fine. From my experience anyways.

Yup GPS is fine locked faster and seems more accurate than my vibrant
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It was either Endgadget or gizmodo, but they said the GPS still sucks on the nexus s that it took forever for them to get a lock. I was tired of playing with ROM's etc, which is why I sold my vibrant and got a mytouch4g. I do miss the vibrant, but I geocache and a accurate GPS is something I needed.

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It was either Endgadget or gizmodo, but they said the GPS still sucks on the nexus s that it took forever for them to get a lock. I was tired of playing with ROM's etc, which is why I sold my vibrant and got a mytouch4g. I do miss the vibrant, but I geocache and a accurate GPS is something I needed.
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load of BS. took less than 0.5 sec to get a lock and the accuracy is incredible.

aohmer said:
It was either Endgadget or gizmodo, but they said the GPS still sucks on the nexus s that it took forever for them to get a lock. I was tired of playing with ROM's etc, which is why I sold my vibrant and got a mytouch4g. I do miss the vibrant, but I geocache and a accurate GPS is something I needed.
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They also said they were driving while trying to get a lock... And in my experience (Nexus S, TomTom, Garmin), a GPS can't get a lock while you're moving. Maybe the best ones can, but their test is not enough to say that Nexus S sucks.

I feel that I have a bad GPS. It's. Not seeing more than 2 satellite outdoor. I will test it more
demo23019 said:
Yup GPS is fine locked faster and seems more accurate than my vibrant
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Those that say that the GPS issues of the Galaxy S line of phones were fixed via the software update and market app probably don't own a Galaxy S phone. The GPS is definitely not fixed. In fact, it's the only reason why I'm in this forum. I'm willing to give up AT&T 3G for a working GPS -- I plan to sell my Captivate and buy a Nexus S if the GPS works.
Also, those that say they got a fast lock and great accuracy, that doesn't exactly mean anything yet. Most Galaxy S users had great GPS performance out-the-box, and after a hard reset. But the performance gradually degrades over the course of a few days, and then you eventually want to throw your phone out the window. So the fact that only some Nexus S owners have great GPS performance -- and not ALL -- leaves me discouraged. But we should have a better assessment after a few days.

Maybe Samsung and/or Google also released in market the pieces that they have produced, before changing the GPS antenna....
Maybe that's why some users have GPS issues and others not...
So maybe we have 2 deferent produced devices....
Nice scenario don't you think???

Looking for Offline Maps

My wife and are are headed to New Orleans this week (From STL).
Today, just for a test, I took out my note and tried the GPS. I was under the assumption that maps would load, and the GPS would give us location. I was wrong. It seems you have to do available offline in Google Maps.
The problem is, it only lets me capture a VERY small section of the map.
Are there other map applications that I could use with the GPS for this trip that are available offline?

Open Street Maps
Look for Open Street Maps based mapping apps in the Play Store. They use offline maps.

lardo5150 said:
My wife and are are headed to New Orleans this week (From STL).
Today, just for a test, I took out my note and tried the GPS. I was under the assumption that maps would load, and the GPS would give us location. I was wrong. It seems you have to do available offline in Google Maps.
The problem is, it only lets me capture a VERY small section of the map.
Are there other map applications that I could use with the GPS for this trip that are available offline?
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Get navfree usa. Its free. Download state maps. Offline route calculation. No crashes on note 10.1
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I would suggest Sygic.

Doesn't Google maps let you save maps for offline use?
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lardo5150 said:
My wife and are are headed to New Orleans this week (From STL).
Today, just for a test, I took out my note and tried the GPS. I was under the assumption that maps would load, and the GPS would give us location. I was wrong. It seems you have to do available offline in Google Maps.
The problem is, it only lets me capture a VERY small section of the map.
Are there other map applications that I could use with the GPS for this trip that are available offline?
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you can capture multiple small sections and they'll be under "my places". since i haven't tested it on a trip that crosses multiple sections i'm not sure how seamless it works across them.

First, I don't know if you noticed but the offline mode capture area can be adjusted. Use the two finger zoom method to zoom out to capture more in one shot. Your maximum capture area is limited to 86 MB. From my experience this allows a fairly large area. About 60 miles wide. Just remember while the maps will work you will need connectivity if you want navigation to work.
To get offline maps with navigation I definitely recommend Sygic and comes with a free trial period which will let you evaluate the app before purchasing the maps. For free options navfree is out there but I have no idea how good it is. Maybe others can comment on navigation experience with navfree.

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Doesn't Google maps let you save maps for offline use?
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It does . You download and keep certain areas you need. But I am not sure if you can use it with only gps on.
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Co pilot is a good maps source.
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I've never used a GPS, so take this for what it's worth, but I downloaded NavFree USA the other day. After that, I downloaded their New York map ('cause that's where I live). It took a while to download that, but afterward worked great. This may seem ignorant, but I didn't realize you could use GPS when not connected to WiFi. But the fact that I could use this as a GPS in my car, with no data connection, was a huge surprise to me.
Of course, you don't things like current traffic issues, but having never used a GPS at all, I was pretty pleased.
Awesome!
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Co pilot is a good maps source.
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justauser said:
Look for Open Street Maps based mapping apps in the Play Store. They use offline maps.
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OSMAnd is a good bet - you could test out with the free version, even though in theory I could build a fully working version from source, the $3-4 or so is worth auto-updating from the Market for an unrestricted version.
It does have offline routing, however I haven't really "stress tested" it for accuracy.

Try copilot. I've used it a lot and found it excellent!
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CO-PILOT rocks
I have been a co-pilot user for a few years its awesome . You cant go wrong . the whole us map download from there server takes about 30-40 minutes and is about 1.3 gb if i remember correctly. You can also d/load reginal maps. I think they update them quicker and more so then anyone else..
if you have a issue they will respond back to you often same day but always within 24 hours.. you get what you pay for with co- pilot very though out app with lots of features..
Good Luck ..

Copilot may be great but it is expensive.

donec said:
Copilot may be great but it is expensive.
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Not compared to Sygic.

donec said:
Copilot may be great but it is expensive.
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Hummm .. well that depends on how much gas and time you waste for getting lost without a accurate offline map.....
Giggles.

Hy Erica, you moved on from the A500 or just surfing the forums?
What I like with Copliot is you can install it on all your android devices, maps too. I have it on my Note 10.1, 2 Acer A501's, 2 SGS3's, and my 2 galaxy tabs as well as an old HTC HD 2( beast of a phone).
And I agree that copilot is awesome but here in Oz there aren't too many map updates...
We're the land that copilot forgot.....

I use navigation systems for a living. I flew for the USAF, and fly worldwide for a major airline now. In addition to that, I've used all types of GPS apps and dedicated GPS in many cities and places around the USA and around the world.
Co-Pilot isn't a bad app, but their maps are truly horrible in many areas. I would recommend Co-Pilot only if you are familiar with the area you'll be using it. I've tried it in many cities where the maps don't even have the major freeways correct. Epic Fail.
Sygic has a decent--not great--interface and excellent maps. Plus, they have maps for locations all around the globe. HOWEVER, their POI search is horribly flawed. If you're within 25 miles of what you're looking for, it works OK. If you're looking or something further away it can be next to impossible to find it. Sygic concentrates on form over function. Fail.
Unfortunately, I have yet to try an Android based GPS Nav app that I would recommend for use in an unfamiliar area. Even Google Maps has serious issues that render it less than optimal.
I would highly recommend getting one of Garmin's GPSs from last year, like the 3750. You can pick that up on Amazon for less than $150. Or Sears has the 3790 with lifetime map updates for less than $180. Easily pocketable and works great. Use Google maps at the hotel to decide what you want to see, use a dedicated GPS to get you there.

i can do both cant i . hehe
ultramag69 said:
Hy Erica, you moved on from the A500 or just surfing the forums?
What I like with Copliot is you can install it on all your android devices, maps too. I have it on my Note 10.1, 2 Acer A501's, 2 SGS3's, and my 2 galaxy tabs as well as an old HTC HD 2( beast of a phone).
And I agree that copilot is awesome but here in Oz there aren't too many map updates...
We're the land that copilot forgot.....
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Hi there.. Well i still have (kinda have) my a500. its a awesome device. I bought two nexus 7 tablets got it because it would fit in my purse. But ended up sending it back for a exchange because of lousy build issues. The replacement was worse. So i sent it back and waiting for a refund . Monday or tuesday im getting a NOTE 10.1 .. Bad experience with the nexus 7 i do not wanna try a 3 rd . i love my wacom intuos so thought this would fit me better.
Think i should buy. Well i have to get something my Spouse (better half so she says) tells me i do NOT get my acer back.. so im tablet less right now... boohoooooo
nice seeing ya over here.
Sorry if this is off topic .. but yes i USE Co-pilot in several devices as well. Also used to use there commercial version in work truck. Great company. as i said above...

Tom Tom is launching a new app this month with off line ability. This is the mapping software that I are in telenav

gps issues

I have a mix 3 8gb/256 and everything seems to be fine on T-Mobile but I am having GPS issues. Google Maps cannot find my location. It does have location permissions. Location is set to high accuracy. Anyone else in the US seeing this as well?

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I have a mix 3 8gb/256 and everything seems to be fine on T-Mobile but I am having GPS issues. Google Maps cannot find my location. It does have location permissions. Location is set to high accuracy. Anyone else in the US seeing this as well?
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Yes I am having the same issue. Don't have a solution currently. Sorry I cannot help.

souless poet said:
Yes I am having the same issue. Don't have a solution currently. Sorry I cannot help.
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Mine actually is working great now. Just stepped outside for a bit and it locks really well with very high precision. I was inside next to a window when I first tested... Apparently it didn't like that

lanceamoss said:
Mine actually is working great now. Just stepped outside for a bit and it locks really well with very high precision. I was inside next to a window when I first tested... Apparently it didn't like that
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I really love the slider and do not own one but you are getting ripped off (no band 12/71). GPS only has access to US L1/L5 bands. The China/Euro sats are disabled by broadcomm chip if you are in the United States which means access to less L1/L5 bands brought to you by?? So, if you were in a basement, L1/L5 bands would still work well if all sats were working. Your by a window and cannot make a lock really sucks, huh? This phone is neutered too much for US users.

vq8acsxht said:
I really love the slider and do not own one but you are getting ripped off (no band 12/71). GPS only has access to US L1/L5 bands. The China/Euro sats are disabled by broadcomm chip if you are in the United States which means access to less L1/L5 bands brought to you by?? So, if you were in a basement, L1/L5 bands would still work well if all sats were working. Your by a window and cannot make a lock really sucks, huh? This phone is neutered too much for US users.
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I disagree. To some, band 71 may be a game changer but the Seattle area doesn't even have it. I think it a bit silly to care too much about something that barely came into existence. In the two or so years I will have this phone it just won't matter to me. I have been perfectly satisfied with my previous phones without it.
As for GPS it seems to lock just fine in my car and out walking about... In fact much more precise than my old phone.... So that is 99% of my use of GPS and I imagine most others as well. Also just this past week the FCC cleared the use of the euro satellites in the US so unless it's out of the reach of software or firmware (very unlikely) then that won't matter either very soon.

It's actually working well now. Just needed an initial lock outside I guess.

Lurker1126 said:
I disagree. To some, band 71 may be a game changer but the Seattle area doesn't even have it. I think it a bit silly to care too much about something that barely came into existence. In the two or so years I will have this phone it just won't matter to me. I have been perfectly satisfied with my previous phones without it.
As for GPS it seems to lock just fine in my car and out walking about... In fact much more precise than my old phone.... So that is 99% of my use of GPS and I imagine most others as well. Also just this past week the FCC cleared the use of the euro satellites in the US so unless it's out of the reach of software or firmware (very unlikely) then that won't matter either very soon.
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The deal is that it is missing even band 12. Band 71 is rolling faster then some expected. That time table of 2020 has been upped by about a year, possible. Most channels have already cleared (they have shut down). I really love the concept of this phone but if I was on ATT, I would jump in and buy it. I just think xiaomi is not trying in the US market, yet. As far as a software fix for the GPS, it would have to be on the firmware side of the phone. That cannot be updated by software. I think Broadcomm made a deal and since most of the sale of phones are targeted for sale outside the US, Xiaomi threw in the towel. So, you will be able to tell if you ever will get the euro sats by going to the play store and installing:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.android.gpstest
and see if you ever do get the euro sats on this phone. I do not think so, though because it is hard coded into the Broadcomm chip. If xiaomi decides to cut corners they may keep buying this chip for a year or two before the new ones get updated. Anyway, let us all know.
Edit: It does have band 12.

No issue with mine, make sure to give all the needed permission to google maps app. Also if its your first time locking in, do it outdoors first. If you're indoor , it may take awhile but subsequently it's really quick and accurate.

vq8acsxht said:
The deal is that it is missing even band 12. Band 71 is rolling faster then some expected. That time table of 2020 has been upped by about a year, possible. Most channels have already cleared (they have shut down). I really love the concept of this phone but if I was on ATT, I would jump in and buy it. I just think xiaomi is not trying in the US market, yet. As far as a software fix for the GPS, it would have to be on the firmware side of the phone. That cannot be updated by software. I think Broadcomm made a deal and since most of the sale of phones are targeted for sale outside the US, Xiaomi threw in the towel. So, you will be able to tell if you ever will get the euro sats by going to the play store and installing:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.android.gpstest
and see if you ever do get the euro sats on this phone. I do not think so, though because it is hard coded into the Broadcomm chip. If xiaomi decides to cut corners they may keep buying this chip for a year or two before the new ones get updated. Anyway, let us all know.
Edit: It does have band 12.
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I am seeing several E1 and E5a sats in that app...

vq8acsxht said:
The deal is that it is missing even band 12. Band 71 is rolling faster then some expected. That time table of 2020 has been upped by about a year, possible. Most channels have already cleared (they have shut down). I really love the concept of this phone but if I was on ATT, I would jump in and buy it. I just think xiaomi is not trying in the US market, yet. As far as a software fix for the GPS, it would have to be on the firmware side of the phone. That cannot be updated by software. I think Broadcomm made a deal and since most of the sale of phones are targeted for sale outside the US, Xiaomi threw in the towel. So, you will be able to tell if you ever will get the euro sats by going to the play store and installing:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.android.gpstest
and see if you ever do get the euro sats on this phone. I do not think so, though because it is hard coded into the Broadcomm chip. If xiaomi decides to cut corners they may keep buying this chip for a year or two before the new ones get updated. Anyway, let us all know.
Edit: It does have band 12.
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I am seeing several E1 and E5a sats in that app...no sbas though

Lurker1126 said:
I am seeing several E1 and E5a sats in that app...no sbas though
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I may be wrong! Wow, that is good news! Can you lock on to some sats and do a print screen so I can see what is up there?? And post that print screen! Thanks!
https://medium.com/@sjbarbeau/duel-frequency-gnss-on-android-devices-152b8826e1c
And if you want you can contact and share with Sean, thanks!

vq8acsxht said:
I may be wrong! Wow, that is good news! Can you lock on to some sats and do a print screen so I can see what is up there?? And post that print screen! Thanks!
https://medium.com/@sjbarbeau/duel-frequency-gnss-on-android-devices-152b8826e1c
And if you want you can contact and share with Sean, thanks!
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Here ya go

Lurker1126 said:
Here ya go
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Wow, that is new. Looks like no software upgrade is needed. It looks like the euro sats were sending a blocking code signals for the US region in order to shut down the receiver portion in the Broadcomm chip (I would assume). So, it appears the same would be true for the china sats. With how many sats you are receiving, this phone is going to get great gps reception, now! I think I may get this phone when the global version comes out. I was really on the fence about this phone but with band 12, this phone will still get great coverage.

New device and having the same problem (EU). No GPS when indoors. If I go outside it works...
Is it a hardware defect or a software problem?

I was having the same issue. I did two things and guess one of them fixed it:
1 disable MiUi optimization in developer settings
2 give all permissions to Google play services. This was a little tricky as the default app manager doesn't allow you to modify Google play services permissions. I installed MIUP from Google play store and used the app manager to give the permissions.
GPS works fine indoors now

g4m3rz said:
I was having the same issue. I did two things and guess one of them fixed it:
1 disable MiUi optimization in developer settings
2 give all permissions to Google play services. This was a little tricky as the default app manager doesn't allow you to modify Google play services permissions. I installed MIUP from Google play store and used the app manager to give the permissions.
GPS works fine indoors now
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I did the 2nd. Google Play services had the "Location" permission turned off. This seems to have fixed it! Thanks

Is this normal? GPS signal seems to be very bad. Is there a solution?

Wrakor said:
I did the 2nd. Google Play services had the "Location" permission turned off. This seems to have fixed it! Thanks
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Did not help for me. GPS is still bad inside the building. However first step should have been important as GPS started working when I have turned of Wifi. Not sure if this was a coincidence or not.

Shilis said:
Is this normal? GPS signal seems to be very bad. Is there a solution?
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If you just bought the phone, take it outside. Some have reported that on the first lock, it may do a cold start an have GPS issues. Never the less, goto google play store and load the app "GPS Status" app in.
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Shilis said:
Did not help for me. GPS is still bad inside the building. However first step should have been important as GPS started working when I have turned of Wifi. Not sure if this was a coincidence or not.
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Your phone should get a minimum of 20 sats. The GPS is awsome on this phone even in indoors. GPS Status gets the AGPS data off the internet to speed up where the sats are. Taking it outside will do the same thing for the first time, also. Xiaomi MI Mix 3 may have a program to get the AGPS when connected to WIFI.

I'm in the state of Massachusetts, USA. My GPS wasn't working even though I was outside my house for about 4hrs since getting the phone. What worked for me was downloading the app mentioned above:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...ndroid.gpstest
( thanks to vq8acsxht for posting) let it run and after a few minutes I noticed my GPS was working. Really was a pain... I tried ubering and my phone thought I was in some country in the continent of Africa lols