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Bye Bye HTC Touch Pro 2

Well I used it for three weeks and I have to say it was an OK phone but Sprint had it overpriced...I had to pay $450 for it. I was not eligible for the $100 rebate as my $30 SERO plan was too cheap!
I talked to Sprint retentions and they said NO CAN DO! I told them I was leaving...and they still said NO.
So then I thought to myself...is Sprint CRAZY! Why would they think I would pay $450 for a phone!!!
Plus the phone has many bugs that they need to hammer out.
Good luck everyone with your phones...I think I am jumping the ship and getting an iphone.

LOL, see ya

So Long!
This space for rent.
Thanks for an informative post.

hmmmm
$450 plus $30 a month
$199 plus $80 a month for 2 years
$1200 MORE for the service and its crappy service at that.
hahaahahhahahahahahahahahahahahhaahahah
idiot! do you also think a nickel is worth more then a dime because its bigger?

arifiano said:
Well I used it for three weeks and I have to say it was an OK phone but Sprint had it overpriced...I had to pay $450 for it. I was not eligible for the $100 rebate as my $30 SERO plan was too cheap!
I talked to Sprint retentions and they said NO CAN DO! I told them I was leaving...and they still said NO.
So then I thought to myself...is Sprint CRAZY! Why would they think I would pay $450 for a phone!!!
Plus the phone has many bugs that they need to hammer out.
Good luck everyone with your phones...I think I am jumping the ship and getting an iphone.
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Moderators?! Could you please delete this drivel? The guy contradicts himself in the first paragraph, TWICE.. Lordy!

arifiano said:
Well I used it for three weeks and I have to say it was an OK phone but Sprint had it overpriced...I had to pay $450 for it. I was not eligible for the $100 rebate as my $30 SERO plan was too cheap!
I talked to Sprint retentions and they said NO CAN DO! I told them I was leaving...and they still said NO.
So then I thought to myself...is Sprint CRAZY! Why would they think I would pay $450 for a phone!!!
Plus the phone has many bugs that they need to hammer out.
Good luck everyone with your phones...I think I am jumping the ship and getting an iphone.
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man, ive got to say this is probably the worst time to give up on TP2.
the unlocker for CDMA tp2s should be out these few days...and you're giving up now. ...

maybe if you weren't so mathematically/intellectually challenged you would have just got the 70 dollar credit first...then waited to pounce. Paid 129.99 no rebates on sero myself with that citibank deal. Even without the 199 price 280 plus 30 a month is killer.

Got the same deal as you and throw in the $ that sprint gave me for my old phone and it was $101 with all taxes... still on SERO and $101 for the phone... can't beat that...

come on dude, look at it in the long run. you'll be better off with tp2. screw sprint just buy the damn phone from someone on ebay in a few months.

what an idiot. let him go. simple minds deserve simple devices like an itrash.

jaydowser said:
what an idiot. let him go. simple minds deserve simple devices like an itrash.
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Awesome line!

Im not gonna bash you cause i know you are doing this out of frustration... but i have SERO also $30 a month and i got it for $199 no rebates. Just keep trying and hold on a little longer. I found my TP last year for $200 on ebay... maybe you can find a good deal. Hang in there and look at the long run buddy

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Eeek... You shouldn't have said the 'i' word. The guys on here are kind of dicks when it comes to that. I personally don't care for them (iPhones), but my roommate has a new one and it's a pretty slick device. Part of the early adopter fee is bugs. Give the device at least a quarter before giving up on it. I'd recommend waiting if you can, unless there is some way you can get your money back. If you are unhappy with the device because of the price, then it's your fault for paying waaaayyy too much for it. If you are unhappy with the device because of the bugs, then give it a few weeks. HTC and the programmers do a good job at fixing these things. If you just plain don't like the device, then absolutely ditch it. There isn't a one size fits all for phones and I can fully understand why someone would hate this one. I don't really like it at all in its stock format either, but I didn't like my other HTC devices until they were unlocked. It does seem kind of silly to buy a device and have to wait for programmers to hack it before it's useful. Ahhh WRT...
Ignore all the iHate. People ***** about how close minded the iCrew is and then turn around with the same close minded name calling. If the shoe doesn't fit then don't walk around *****ing about it; throw it out. =)

arifiano said:
So then I thought to myself...is Sprint CRAZY!
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hehe . . . any takers on who would win the 'Crazy?' poll?

I got mine for free.
so I guess you'll enjoy paying hundreds more a month for less
theres a door closing dont let it hit you

WOW..... I think that was one of the stupidest posts I ever read. The Touch Pro 2 is one of the best phones out. And once we have the unlocker, the possiblities will be endless. Go get an Iphone and be stuck with exactly what Apple gives you. I will take the Touch Pro 2 anyday. And yes, I paid full price for the phone and wanted able to get the $100 dollar mail in rebate because it was only available for those who got the 2 year price.

Laughing hard...
Well I hope you enjoy the iWHATEVER...I used to work for at&t and got nothing but complaints about it. The 3G on at&t is so spotty its not worth switching. I hope you enjoy spending your time with an all eye candy phone and a crappy network.
As for the Touch Pro 2...I love it and nothings going to change that.

And I don't want to be told what I can install on my phone and what I can't. Say if I want the Google Voice App on my device then I'm going to add it. Don't want THE MAN to be able to say no.

dUDE THERE I=S A PROMO CODE IT IS BS220 CALL SPRINT AND TELL THEM YOU RECIEVED IT IN THE MAIL GIVING THE PHONE TO YOU FOR 319.99 NO MAIL IN REBATE.
I HAD TO ARGUE WITH THEM FOR LIKE 2 HOURS BUT GOT THE DEAL. ITS SUPPOSED TO BE FOR SMALL BUSINESSES, BUT I GOT THEM TO APPLY THE PROMO CODE. ITS ONLY GOOD TILL THE 30TH THOUGH

jaydowser said:
what an idiot. let him go. simple minds deserve simple devices like an itrash.
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I could not have said this any better. This guy was probably one of those people who wanted to degrade this awesome device and turn it into a replica of the iphone. I cant stand that phone not only because of the service but also because of all the limitations. Yea they have alot of apps, but try downloading it on their inferior network. Good luck with that. Plus windows mobile has been around alot longer and has so many apps as to be uncountable. The price justifies its greatness but I payed 250 with the rebate only because my contract wasnt up yet. Still less than he was paying. Oh well.

Already available on amazon?

Check it out, dudes
http://wireless.amazon.com/Samsung-Captivate-Android-Phone-AT/dp/B003TLMQG8
By the way, I found that link by searching with google. Actually searching wireless.amazon.com for the captivate brings up nothing. (?)
edit: I haven't tried ordering from that page, since I'm still debating whether to keep this Aria or not, so use it at your own risk. Certainly looks legit though..

$600 off contract?!?! What is wrong with these people? Good find though. I've never heard of that site before

NOSintake said:
$600 off contract?!?! What is wrong with these people? Good find though. I've never heard of that site before
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I got my Aria from that same site, except it was a very reasonable $50 with a family contract extension.
But I agree, something is afoot. Either their pricing is way off, or the tech blogs have been misinformed about the Captivate's launching price. I heard 340 was the off contract price, but that doesn't really make much sense considering the Aria's off contract price is 380, and the N1 was like 540.. Who knows?

The $149 price is for a new contract. Contract extension price is $224.

tdusen said:
The $149 price is for a new contract. Contract extension price is $224.
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that **** always pisses me off, im not a new customer but i do have an upgrade and im out of contract.. give me a deal as well as new customers!

YeaItsSlo said:
that **** always pisses me off, im not a new customer but i do have an upgrade and im out of contract.. give me a deal as well as new customers!
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Yeah seriously, I always wondered about that too - what's stopping someone off-contract from just closing the account and opening a new one the next day for the extra discount? Unless you're grandfathered into some unlimited plan you want to hang on to, I don't see how they could stop you from doing it.

modest_mandroid said:
Yeah seriously, I always wondered about that too - what's stopping someone off-contract from just closing the account and opening a new one the next day for the extra discount? Unless you're grandfathered into some unlimited plan you want to hang on to, I don't see how they could stop you from doing it.
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Your account must be closed for 60 days in order for the system not to recognize you as a new customer. For example, if you port your number to Sprint for 45 days and decide to go back to AT&T you can pick up right where you left off. It's very easy for them to stop you from doing it and they will. Trust me I've tried it.

xoom network locking/barring question.

Evening all, apologies for the probably noobish question but i've done a fair amount of searching and have to give in and just ask.
My younger brother got a xoom (32gb wi-fi and 3g) on contract in the uk with three, he then neglected to pay the bill entirely.
My question to you good folks is as follows...
Can three network bar it as they could with a mobile handset who's bill remained unpaid?
If i offer to pay off his contract as the helpful, older, wiser, better looking brother and then, confiscate his tablet and sell it to recoup my huge outlay - can anyone tell me if im going to get an angry winning ebay bidder messaging me to say that it doesn't work with their sim card as its been barred/blocked etc etc??
is there anyway i can check on the actual device?, at the minute it just comes up with "no sim" although the wi-fi works fine as you'd expect.
I just want rid of it, and to have my bank balance drained as little as possible before i send photos of my brother to every retailer asking them to politely remove him from their store.
Thanks for any help that you guys can provide.
kinny

Not to be a bummer but if you did pay off his contract you probably still have a huge dent in your wallet even after selling it. Probably best bet is to just keep with the contract and keep the XOOM since it is a decent device. I know that you want to sell it but I doubt you could sell it for all that much. And if you did pay off the contract your tablet should be unlocked so I doubt people would complain if they are blocked.

Just pop-in a different SIM to check if you still get a no-SIM error.
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Chaosgod27 said:
Not to be a bummer but if you did pay off his contract you probably still have a huge dent in your wallet even after selling it. Probably best bet is to just keep with the contract and keep the XOOM since it is a decent device. I know that you want to sell it but I doubt you could sell it for all that much. And if you did pay off the contract your tablet should be unlocked so I doubt people would complain if they are blocked.
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Nah i do agree in principle but I've already got 2 laptops assorted work and home phones and an ipad so the last thing i need is another bit of kit that'll turn into a paper weight, any money back from selling is better than none as i'm resigned to paying off his bill regardless under the understanding that the device becomes mine in exchange for his credit history not becoming ruined at the age of 18.
If i paid it off it'd be over a few months rather than in a lump sum just not the remaining 17 months thats left as i want it gone and off my mind asap!
they seem to be going for £200 plus on ebay which is £200 more than if i put it in the drawer and forgot about it.
Cheers for the reply though matey, much appreciated.

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Just pop-in a different SIM to check if you still get a no-SIM error.
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The simplest solutions are usually best and in this reply i think you've just epitomised that! Will try this asap.
I still wonder if they can actually be blocked/barred though?

kinny999 said:
Nah i do agree in principle but I've already got 2 laptops assorted work and home phones and an ipad so the last thing i need is another bit of kit that'll turn into a paper weight, any money back from selling is better than none as i'm resigned to paying off his bill regardless under the understanding that the device becomes mine in exchange for his credit history not becoming ruined at the age of 18.
If i paid it off it'd be over a few months rather than in a lump sum just not the remaining 17 months thats left as i want it gone and off my mind asap!
they seem to be going for £200 plus on ebay which is £200 more than if i put it in the drawer and forgot about it.
Cheers for the reply though matey, much appreciated.
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Hmm I see, if you want to get rid and don't mind losing a bit of money, I suppose paying it off as soon as possible and selling it will be wise. And no it won't be barred or blocked if everything works out fine. Don't know about changing ownership, lol first I heard of that but you probably have to discuss it with three. Just curious, why did your brother grab that device knowing he can't pay for it? It would've been better if he just brought it outright if you asked me.

Chaosgod27 said:
Hmm I see, if you want to get rid and don't mind losing a bit of money, I suppose paying it off as soon as possible and selling it will be wise. And no it won't be barred or blocked if everything works out fine. Don't know about changing ownership, lol first I heard of that but you probably have to discuss it with three. Just curious, why did your brother grab that device knowing he can't pay for it? It would've been better if he just brought it outright if you asked me.
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Not entirely sure of that myself matey? might try and beat the answer out of him at a later date though

Verizon Wireless Developer Program

This is for any Verizon device, not just the Samsung Galaxy S5. Please spread this to other device forums!
Recently, I came up with an idea of a developer program. What this program would do is allow people to pay a fee to have their bootloaders unlocked, regardless of the device. This would allow people the freedom to modify their device or develop for it without any issues. I did a little research and could not find anything similar to this (besides developer edition devices). So, with this idea in mind, I sent an email to the Executive VP of Verizon. Twenty minutes later, I received a phone call from his office. Long story short (there was a lot of talk about rooting and unlocking), the guy who called me put my idea through to marketing. However, since only about 1% of customers root their devices, there is concern of the interest in this.
What this thread is for is to see how many people would be interested in this program.
What would you be willing to pay to customer service to have your bootloader unlocked?
$0
$5
$25
$50
$100
Please use only one of those five prices, and no other prices.
You may discuss this in further detail in this thread. However, arguing, trolling, slandering, bickering, and anything else that will clutter this thread and overwork the moderators WILL NOT BE TOLERATED. This thread is not the thread to argue with others over the details since the idea is already in marketing. If you wish to argue or troll, please take it somewhere else. And, as always, please follow the forum rules. Thank you for looking at this thread.
For those who are concerned with the warranty, please read this. Huge thanks to @shootind5nukes for this info.
Just so everyone knows the Magnuson–Moss Warranty Act prevents someone from totally VOIDING a warranty. Verizon/Samsung could only deny to warranty something if they can prove something you did cause the issue. Anything that has nothing to do with what you did still has to be under warranty. If you LCD started to lose color or get dead pixels that would still have to be covered because that has nothing to do with bootloaders and flashing ROMS.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnuson–Moss_Warranty_Act
"The federal minimum standards for full warranties are waived if the warrantor can show that the problem associated with a warranted consumer product was caused by damage while in the possession of the consumer, or by unreasonable use, including a failure to provide reasonable and necessary maintenance."
I learned about this when I was going to get my truck lifted. I was told if I did it would VOID my truck's warranty. After looking into it further it didn't actually VOID anything. But for example if I went in to get my suspension fixed because it broke they could argue that the lift kit put stress on the suspension and that's why it failed so they would not have to cover it. But if my motor exploded because it was made out of cheese it would still be under warranty, the entire warranty can never be voided. Only damage caused by what you did. Food for thought guys.
If anyone has anything to add please do.
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Here is the email of the VP I emailed if you want to email him about the developer program. Again, thank you @shootind5nukes for this idea.
http://www.verizonwireless.com/aboutus/leadership/executive/profiles/david-small.html
IF YOU DO EMAIL HIM, BE POLITE AND RESPECTFUL PLEASE.​

eragon5779 said:
What would you be willing to pay to customer service to have your bootloader unlocked?
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$0. I am a firm believer that the devices I purchase should be fully open for customization.

At this point I would be willing to pay a one time fee of $25. It makes sense it would be a charge since the dev edition has to be bought at full price.
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Verizon has alot of customers 1% is alot of people.

Great program, if implemented. Kudos for the idea AND getting a response! I would pay up to a hundred bucks for an official unlock like this, but I have ATT...

25 is fair, but I'd pay up to 50, if it included some insurance for the device. Is also say, that as an ATT customer, a service like this would tempt me to switch to Verizon

$25
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I'm on ATT as well but would pay upto $50. But my question is if they give a way to unlock it, it would be universal thru all phones. So why wouldn't i just tell my friend. If they would do this why wouldn't they just charge an extra $50 on every phone and have every phone unlocked. No more hassle. Why are they so greedy? If it's only 1% that care about there freedom what would they loose? They would make tons more money.....
http://i.imgur.com/0OBoXTC.jpg

I agree w/ @Cat McGowan, devices should be open for development. And therefore would like to pay $0, but a $5 fee isn't too bad...

According to this there are 107.7 million Verizon wireless customers. So if 1.077 Million people (1%) root there devices on Verizon Wireless and are willing to pay $5 for a bootloader unlock, If everybody pays $5 to unlock there device Verizon would make 5.385 Million Dollars

Long time lurker. Signed up just to post to this thread.
I voted for $50 because that seems reasonable but at this point ive been looking to buy a $200 device that is unlockable so i would really probably pay more for a clean, official unlock. I agree that the spirit of Android should be open and therefore unlocked for free but its obvious that OEMs dont feel this way and Google isnt likely to "pull an Apple" so to speak and tell OEMs to leave their devices unlocked.
How wonderful would it be to not have to risk bricking devices and staying one step ahead to keep root and ROM?!
If Big Red is talking about this then its a milestone indeed. For so long the official position has been to shut it down. Maybe all of our annoying voices are finally breaking through?
I for one, constantly post on their facebook page, email and frequently call just to bug em about this. Keep it up and step it up! Maybe we can get somewhere?
Edit: Which VP did you email? haha. Seems like everyone on their site is a VP of something or another. Maybe we could all make our voices heard together?

I'd pay $100 if i had to, but $50 is more realistic. If it was $100 i feel like that would dissuade enough people from spending that type of money to the point where community development is lacking , just like it is for locked down devices with only DevEd's as an option.
I really really hope something comes from this. TMo is just looking too good these days but i don't want to give up this network.

I would be comfortable with $25.00.

I'm with big blue, would pay 25 bucks in a heartbeat. 50... ehh, I'd be hesitant. This is the first device I've owned where I wasn't hellbent on unlocking the bootloader
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joshuabg said:
According to this there are 107.7 million Verizon wireless customers. So if 1.077 Million people (1%) root there devices on Verizon Wireless and are willing to pay $5 for a bootloader unlock, If everybody pays $5 to unlock there device Verizon would make 5.385 Million Dollars
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I voted for $100, but all of these choices seem reasonable to me. Obviously being able to do it for free would be optimal.
The quote above really isn't a great way of looking at it. Sure, $5M sounds like a lot, but taken in context it is a rounding error at a place like Verizon. That $5M isn't enough to move top line revenue by a single basis point, and therefore wouldn't be enough incentive to the bottom line. Even $100 for the 1.077M people would only add 10 basis points to top line revenue.
All that said, money can't be the sole factor for getting them to let us unlock the bootloaders. They would have to look at the goodwill it would create, and the new customers, as evidenced above, that they could steal away from the other carriers.

Personally I believe we should pay $0 as I paid for the device and should be allowed to do as I please with it. Realistically tho $5-$10 wouldnt be terrible
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I'd be willing to pay up to $50. I would think Verizon could easily steal some customers away from other carriers by offering something like this. However, I don't see any carrier offering any kind of warranty on a device that has had its bootloader modified. It would be very easy for a newb like myself to brick my device and then try to get another under warranty...

$25

Cat McGowan said:
$0. I am a firm believer that the devices I purchase should be fully open for customization.
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This. All of this.

$25
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Selling note 5 on jump program??..

So I have a note 5 on the jump program with tmobile, which is for 18 months.. I've been wanting to get the nexus 6p because I'm kind of burnt out of tw and all its restrictions, I actually left vzw and at&t for those reasons and joined tmo since they allow you to be free, but with Sammy that's not really freedom.. I put my S6 on swappa for sell but as we all know people on swappa are like craigslisters, basically want a new phone in awesome condition for free.. So I am considering putting my note 5 up for sale since I'll get more money.. I was told by a tmobile rep in a store near my home that I couldn't do that, that I'd have to keep the phone for the period of my lease.. Was wondering if the good folks here on xda could either confirm or know of a work around??.. Any help is appreciated thanks xda..
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Is your phone paid off? If not, then you can't sell it.
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As @darkjedi said, you can't sell it if it has not been paid off. Untill the phone is not paid off that note 5 that you have is not yours, it belongs to t-mobile untill you pay it off.

I mean, sure you can sell it, but you'd be a gigantic tool if you haven't paid it off. My friend bought an S6 off CL, the guy hadn't paid it off, then reported it stolen. My friend had to pay to get a new IMEI. Shady.
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You could sell it to an acquaintance and be upfront about the fact that you haven't paid it off. Take the money from the sale and buy the 6P and continue to make the payments on your Note 5. In essence you'd be making payments on your new 6P. So yes, technically it can be done. There's nothing that will make it not work. You just need to be upfront about it.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-galaxy-note5/help/selling-note-5-jump-program-t3259956
Why multiple posts about the same thing?

Just jump to another phone if you're on Jump on Demand... That's the reason you got the phone on jump originally right?
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KINGDROID25 said:
So I have a note 5 on the jump program with tmobile, which is for 18 months.. I've been wanting to get the nexus 6p because I'm kind of burnt out of tw and all its restrictions, I actually left vzw and at&t for those reasons and joined tmo since they allow you to be free, but with Sammy that's not really freedom.. I put my S6 on swappa for sell but as we all know people on swappa are like craigslisters, basically want a new phone in awesome condition for free.. So I am considering putting my note 5 up for sale since I'll get more money.. I was told by a tmobile rep in a store near my home that I couldn't do that, that I'd have to keep the phone for the period of my lease.. Was wondering if the good folks here on xda could either confirm or know of a work around??.. Any help is appreciated thanks xda..
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If you're on jump on demand your swappa listing would not have even listed because the admins wouldnt have allowed it. Swappa is actually amazing. I don't sell a phone any other way, but I digress... If I were you (and I'll be doing the same here soon) I would buy the 6P...go the T-Mobile store and jump to the cheapest "jumpable" phone...you would have only like a 5 dollar charge every month for the cheap phone. While you're there tell them to activate the 6P...leave store with both phones...head home...Make a sandwich. Done

jlczl said:
You could sell it to an acquaintance and be upfront about the fact that you haven't paid it off. Take the money from the sale and buy the 6P and continue to make the payments on your Note 5. In essence you'd be making payments on your new 6P. So yes, technically it can be done. There's nothing that will make it not work. You just need to be upfront about it.
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I was thinking the same thing especially since there's no avoiding the payments since its tied into your bill...
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Ducter said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-galaxy-note5/help/selling-note-5-jump-program-t3259956
Why multiple posts about the same thing?
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After I posted that I was told I posted it in the wrong section, so I asked a moderator to either move it or delete because I know on xda someone was gonna say something about posting it in the wrong section.. Was trying to avoid the ?
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shook187 said:
Just jump to another phone if you're on Jump on Demand... That's the reason you got the phone on jump originally right?
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If tmobile carried the nexus 6p this would be soo much easier but I've heard that only the Google store is going to provide the phone.. They don't carry anything better than note 5 imo...
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v2.2v said:
If you're on jump on demand your swappa listing would not have even listed because the admins wouldnt have allowed it. Swappa is actually amazing. I don't sell a phone any other way, but I digress... If I were you (and I'll be doing the same here soon) I would buy the 6P...go the T-Mobile store and jump to the cheapest "jumpable" phone...you would have only like a 5 dollar charge every month for the cheap phone. While you're there tell them to activate the 6P...leave store with both phones...head home...Make a sandwich. Done
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That's some great advice.. A turkey samich and some chips and coke mmmmm
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KINGDROID25 said:
That's some great advice.. A turkey samich and some chips and coke mmmmm
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Does sound good lol

KINGDROID25 said:
After I posted that I was told I posted it in the wrong section, so I asked a moderator to either move it or delete because I know on xda someone was gonna say something about posting it in the wrong section.. Was trying to avoid the ?
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Didn't flame, nor did anyone else that I am aware of. XDA was pretty bad with flaming back a while for sure tho, even had little crews that would do really just that. Thankfully tho, for the most part that is over. Generally speaking, if you post in the wrong area a moderator will move it, no reason to start another thread with the same topic is all I was saying. You can click report thread, then thread maintenance and request it moved, if they feel it's in the wrong section they move it.

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Didn't flame, nor did anyone else that I am aware of. XDA was pretty bad with flaming back a while for sure tho, even had little crews that would do really just that. Thankfully tho, for the most part that is over. Generally speaking, if you post in the wrong area a moderator will move it, no reason to start another thread with the same topic is all I was saying. You can click report thread, then thread maintenance and request it moved, if they feel it's in the wrong section they move it.
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I want suggesting that you were flaming, I was referring to exactly what you just said.. I've seen a lot of threads that are misplaced and people eat them alive.. Thanks for the info on how to get it moved they will defenitly help me in the future so I appreciate that..
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Guys here's the key difference between JUMP and JOD : with JUMP after you make your stipulated 24 payments the phone is YOURS. With JOD when you fulfill your 18 month lease contract the phone MUST be traded for another phone at the T-Mobile store OR THE BALANCE ON IT PAID OFF.
This is clearly stated by T-Mobile. JOD is for people who want the latest phones and DON'T CARE about ownership.
So OP in your particular case you have to pay off the phone FIRST and then sell it as you please.
People please know what you're getting into before you sign for any program!!!

laureanop said:
Guys here's the key difference between JUMP and JOD : with JUMP after you make your stipulated 24 payments the phone is YOURS. With JOD when you fulfill your 18 month lease contract the phone MUST be traded for another phone at the T-Mobile store OR THE BALANCE ON IT PAID OFF.
This is clearly stated by T-Mobile. JOD is for people who want the latest phones and DON'T CARE about ownership.
So OP in your particular case you have to pay off the phone FIRST and then sell it as you please.
People please know what you're getting into before you sign for any program!!!
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It's actually practically the same thing though as TMOBILE is now allowing the balance at the 18 month period to be spread out into a final 6 payments. In addition, the total amount paid regardless of program is the same if you intend to keep the device. It's just presumed that if you're on JOD you won't actually go that long without jumping to something else.
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jlczl said:
It's actually practically the same thing though as TMOBILE is now allowing the balance at the 18 month period to be spread out into a final 6 payments. In addition, the total amount paid regardless of program is the same if you intend to keep the device. It's just presumed that if you're on JOD you won't actually go that long without jumping to something else.
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Thank you. Why do people act as if you are doing jump on demand it is somehow costing you more or that you don't have the option of keeping the device? To me it's all about options. If at the end of the lease you want to keep the phone just pay the remaining price (either in full or another installment plan). And if you were to add up what you already paid with what is left over it is the same exact price as if you purchased it outright from the start - nothing more. If you want to own the phone prior to the lease's end (for example you want to sell the phone) you can pay off the phone in full anytime prior to the lease ends. So I don't understand why a person wouldn't take the option of JOD as it just gives you options. For example I used one of my jumps to upgrade from the 32gb to the 64gb. And since they had the sale of $100 off my bill is actually cheaper. I actually came out $31 ahead as I had my first 3 months paid via a samsung promotion and I only made two payments when I made my jump. As I keep saying (and have read others saying it as well) JOD is all about options.

I thought the whole point of the 'Jump' program, was you get a nice new phone like the Note 5, make your monthly payments, then say come Spring time, you want the shiny new HTC One M10, you bring in your Note 5 and exchange it for the One M10, costing you nothing, except maybe tax ?
And I think you can do that three times over 18 months ?
That's the program I am on, maybe that's called JoD ? But whatever, I think that's the best way to go IMO. My monthly bill will stay the same, and I can get up to three different phones over the course of a year and a half.
I signed up with T-Mobile to get the Note 5 back in August, and joined the JoD program, I won't keep this Note 5 past the Note 6 release. I will either A; get something this Spring, like the HTC One M10, or maybe LG G5, or the Nexus 6P if T-Mobile ever get's it. Or B; wait for the Note 6. But no way do I keep a phone for 18 months, there's always something else I go for.

jlczl said:
It's actually practically the same thing though as TMOBILE is now allowing the balance at the 18 month period to be spread out into a final 6 payments. In addition, the total amount paid regardless of program is the same if you intend to keep the device. It's just presumed that if you're on JOD you won't actually go that long without jumping to something else.
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Zorachus said:
I thought the whole point of the 'Jump' program, was you get a nice new phone like the Note 5, make your monthly payments, then say come Spring time, you want the shiny new HTC One M10, you bring in your Note 5 and exchange it for the One M10, costing you nothing, except maybe tax ?
And I think you can do that three times over 18 months ?
That's the program I am on, maybe that's called JoD ? But whatever, I think that's the best way to go IMO. My monthly bill will stay the same, and I can get up to three different phones over the course of a year and a half.
I signed up with T-Mobile to get the Note 5 back in August, and joined the JoD program, I won't keep this Note 5 past the Note 6 release. I will either A; get something this Spring, like the HTC One M10, or maybe LG G5, or the Nexus 6P if T-Mobile ever get's it. Or B; wait for the Note 6. But no way do I keep a phone for 18 months, there's always something else I go for.
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Yep, that's the advantage of JOD. However, the price of what your monthly payment will change based on the price of the phone. If you jump to a phone that costs more than the one that you are turning in the monthly payment will increase. Conversely if you jump to a phone that costs less than the one that you are turning in your monthly payment will decrease. Also with JOD you pay nothing up front - the taxes are included in your monthly payment. Also keep in mind that each time you jump you are starting the lease over and it's as if you didn't make any payments on the phone that you are turning in.