I have got a problem which is bothering me, actually it is pissing me off, which is the fact that mobile data is being used on the background on my nexus 5 even if the mobile data is disabled. These data accesses from my phone are obvioulsy being executed by some app or apps on my phone but this shouldn't happen since I only use wi-fi. In the Network Usage screen there is no app whatsoever, and still at random moments of the day/night it uses mobile data.
Usually these unwanted data accesses are during the night, most of them at exactly midnight, but others are at random hours and, the only way I noticed this was happening was by consulting my phone registers in my account in my service prodiver's webpage.
I am not totally sure of this but from what I have read and been told, if the mobile data is disabled the other option which is "Background Data" is not accounted. So, if the general option for mobile data is disabled NO data at all should be used.
There is a thread which reports a similar problem: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1816167 , however it is not helpful and not about nexus 5.
Does anyone know what could be happening? I am 100% stock on my nexus 5 anyway and only download apps from the store directly, so there isn't any administrative access for any of the apps that I installed. Maybe it is something related to the fact that this is my first phone in which I have 4G enabled? I really don't know...
Thank you in advance!
Update on the current situation:
I asked my service provider (Vodafone) to disable 4G, and to keep only 3G for mobile data. Strangely since that, no more random unwanted mobile background data has been used, so I can conclude two things:
- The genesis of the problem could be on my service provider whenever 4G is enabled by them for the client, or,
- The problem could be on the android OS (4.X +), which may not be doing the block on the mobile data aproprietly. And since I browsed for similar problems, the problem was always with 4G and on 4.X + version of the android, independant from the phone brand and service provider.
This problem should be reported on google AOSP forum.
DdragonPT said:
I have got a problem which is bothering me, actually it is pissing me off, which is the fact that mobile data is being used on the background on my nexus 5 even if the mobile data is disabled. These data accesses from my phone are obvioulsy being executed by some app or apps on my phone but this shouldn't happen since I only use wi-fi. In the Network Usage screen there is no app whatsoever, and still at random moments of the day/night it uses mobile data.
Usually these unwanted data accesses are during the night, most of them at exactly midnight, but others are at random hours and, the only way I noticed this was happening was by consulting my phone registers in my account in my service prodiver's webpage.
I am not totally sure of this but from what I have read and been told, if the mobile data is disabled the other option which is "Background Data" is not accounted. So, if the general option for mobile data is disabled NO data at all should be used.
There is a thread which reports a similar problem: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1816167 , however it is not helpful and not about nexus 5.
Does anyone know what could be happening? I am 100% stock on my nexus 5 anyway and only download apps from the store directly, so there isn't any administrative access for any of the apps that I installed. Maybe it is something related to the fact that this is my first phone in which I have 4G enabled? I really don't know...
Thank you in advance!
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When this happens, can you look into data usage to see what app was using the mobile data? Maybe that app somehow has some permission to enable mobile data. I've not heard of that happening, so not sure how that would happen.
Also, how are you disabling the mobile data? (some widgets provide the ability to turn off 2g and/or 3g and/or 4g independently - so make sure that both 3g and 4g are being turned off)
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When this happens, can you look into data usage to see what app was using the mobile data? Maybe that app somehow has some permission to enable mobile data. I've not heard of that happening, so not sure how that would happen.
Also, how are you disabling the mobile data? (some widgets provide the ability to turn off 2g and/or 3g and/or 4g independently - so make sure that both 3g and 4g are being turned off)
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Since the moment I disabled mobile data (30th of December) no apps are shown in the data usage, I said this above: "In the Network Usage screen there is no app whatsoever, and still at random moments of the day/night it uses mobile data."
Concerning the 3G and 4G being turnned off or not, I could turn them off but I shouldn't need to do it since by disabling Mobile Data in the Network Usage menu should take care of blocking the data correctly.
This problem has been resolved, but not in the ideal way, as I said in my second post. Since I asked my service provider to turn off 4G on their side, there are no mobile data accesses being done from my phone.
DdragonPT said:
When since I disabled mobile data no apps are shown in the data usage, I said this above: "In the Network Usage screen there is no app whatsoever, and still at random moments of the day/night it uses mobile data."
Concerning the 3G and 4G being turnned off or not, I could turn them off but I shouldn't need to do it since by disabling Mobile Data in the Network Usage menu should take care of blocking the data correctly.
This problem has been resolved, but not in the ideal way, as I said in my second post. Since I asked my service provider to turn off 4G on their side, there are no mobile data accesses being done from my phone.
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Turning 4G off is one way to fix this
I wonder if the service provider had some issues with counting 4G usage - I don't recall hearing of an issue where turning mobile data off would permit usage. But I could be mistaken.
(assuming you are going into settings to disable mobile data, yes, that should completely disable the mobile data connection 3g/4g - wasn't sure if you were using a widget or other means)
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Turning 4G off is one way to fix this
I wonder if the service provider had some issues with counting 4G usage - I don't recall hearing of an issue where turning mobile data off would permit usage. But I could be mistaken.
(assuming you are going into settings to disable mobile data, yes, that should completely disable the mobile data connection 3g/4g - wasn't sure if you were using a widget or other means)
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I know what you mean about not hearing about the problem since there are only a hand full of forums which mention this. However I do believe this is generalised for 4G and, probably most people don't even notice it because, either:
- People that never had a mobile data subscription never needed 4G (activated by their service provider), and so in 3G no problems exist. Or,
- People that have a mobile data subscription don't need to worry about these "leaks" of mobile data, and so they never notice it, even if they disable mobile data since their data subscription is enough to not make them pay for a single access (as it happens in my case).
UPDATE on my situation:
Since I asked my mobile service provider (VODAFONE) to turn off 4G for my number all the mobile data leaks disappeared and all is working fine. But the question still remains, if the problem originates from the mobile service provider or from the android 4.4.2 rom
I have got the same magic with my nexus 5(4.4.2), with disabled mobile data (we have only edge-gprs) it connects to network via cell and my mobile operator charges money..
That shows its not just a problem with 4G since he's having an issue with edge/2G
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I am mostly or you can say only on WiFi , I did find some extra charges because of some mobile data usage, contacting my service provider did help, but I still believe that there are certain apps which work even when I am not on WiFi hence the extra charges.
Mobile data turning on automatically while it is dissableed
hi.. i have same problem with the mobile data.
im using samsung s4..
mobile data is tured on on random hours our while playing game..
i installed Real racing 3 from playstore.. ans it has a permission like full network access.
it that permission in making this issue..
because of the issue i reset my mobile.. still now not found the issue
please help me
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(sorry I posted it in the wrong place so now re-posting it here)
Hi -
I just got this white Skyrocket phone with 200MB data plan.
I heard that when connected to 4G, the phone uses data allowance from the data package, whereas if connected to WIFI (like at home), the data usage doesn't come off my AT&T data allowance.
So I want to disconnect from 4G and connect to my WIFI when I am at home.
At the store, the just told me to make sure that WIFI is showing as on on the top bar (or when you swipe that bar down). They said if WIFI is showing on, it means that the phone is using WIFI connection.
However, I see that at the same time when WIFI is showing on, the "4G" icon is also showing on and looking active! So- they are both looking active! That's why I wonder which connection is my Skyrocket actually using?
It looks like the data I use on WIFI also comes out of my data plan because the data packet is on.
So I had an idea, went to settings-wireless-mobile networks and unchecked "Use Data Packet".
When the above was unchecked, 4G icon disappeared and I could see only WIFI icon on the top bar, which would be good - however, the problem is that now I cannot connect to internet. (I turned the phone on and off- no change)
Does it mean that there is no way on Skyrocket to bypass AT&T data allowance and whether I use 4G or my own WIFI, there is no free internet access on this phone?
Or is there something else I can do to make sure I am connected just to my WIFI and data is free?
I would appreciate your help.
Thank you
It just shows both icon to double check get speedtest and do one. You can see in results if you get wifi or 4g LTE.
justcalled said:
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Hi -
I just got this white Skyrocket phone with 200MB data plan.
I heard that when connected to 4G, the phone uses data allowance from the data package, whereas if connected to WIFI (like at home), the data usage doesn't come off my AT&T data allowance.
So I want to disconnect from 4G and connect to my WIFI when I am at home.
At the store, the just told me to make sure that WIFI is showing as on on the top bar (or when you swipe that bar down). They said if WIFI is showing on, it means that the phone is using WIFI connection.
However, I see that at the same time when WIFI is showing on, the "4G" icon is also showing on and looking active! So- they are both looking active! That's why I wonder which connection is my Skyrocket actually using?
It looks like the data I use on WIFI also comes out of my data plan because the data packet is on.
So I had an idea, went to settings-wireless-mobile networks and unchecked "Use Data Packet".
When the above was unchecked, 4G icon disappeared and I could see only WIFI icon on the top bar, which would be good - however, the problem is that now I cannot connect to internet. (I turned the phone on and off- no change)
Does it mean that there is no way on Skyrocket to bypass AT&T data allowance and whether I use 4G or my own WIFI, there is no free internet access on this phone?
Or is there something else I can do to make sure I am connected just to my WIFI and data is free?
I would appreciate your help.
Thank you
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They both should not show up at once unless something that needs access to att data like voicemail is checking for messages. Sounds more like either you are not connecting to your wireless router correctly or the wifi antenna is messed up on your phone.
Well sometimes for me it shows both icons in status bar. All i do is turn off wifi and turn back and the 4G LTE icon disappears.
draztikrhymez said:
They both should not show up at once unless something that needs access to att data like voicemail is checking for messages. Sounds more like either you are not connecting to your wireless router correctly or the wifi antenna is messed up on your phone.
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appdroid said:
Well sometimes for me it shows both icons in status bar. All i do is turn off wifi and turn back and the 4G LTE icon disappears.
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Yea same for me but that means something is not allowing the phone to connect to wifi hence having to turn the wifi radio off n on.
Normally it shouldn't do that. Plus if op restarted the phone entirely and still no connection something is just not establishing the connection correctly
Well not exactly because i did speed test and i got my connection as wireless connection so for me it was fine with both icon.
draztikrhymez said:
Yea same for me but that means something is not allowing the phone to connect to wifi hence having to turn the wifi radio off n on.
Normally it shouldn't do that. Plus if op restarted the phone entirely and still no connection something is just not establishing the connection correctly
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Some functions require the data connection (mms, some syncing etc) and will trigger your data connection even when on wifi
If truly concerned use tasker or juice defender to disable cell data while wifi is on. Or manually turn it off
Or as someone else mentioned...you wifi is not maintaining connection
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Not sure if this will help but there are many apps in the market to help with connection issues. I have two widgets that tells me which one im using and how strong they are just do a search for mobile traffic or cell /wifi. Hope that helps.
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I think a lot of people are ignoring the op said no data is working at all when trying wifi.
Yes both icons will show sometimes because like mentioned mms, voicemail, etc requires it.
If the phone has no data period even after reboots then wifi is not connecting
Download "My data manager" from the market. It will show you your data useage, both wifi and data. Use that and check to see if you really are using your wifi or if its still using data.
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Thank you for all your replies, each one taught me something about this new phone and I downloaded a few of the apps that you mentioned.
So all day I was being very careful about the internet, tracking my 4G/WiFi usage all day and then in the evening my kid pressed on a game icon and some kind of car game downloaded =adding over 70MB to my data transfer right away!! (and my monthly budget is 200MB)
It took a couple of seconds - he actually just pressed on the icon and then pressed home when he saw a car because he decided he doesn't want to play it. But it downloaded anyway! I am so mad!
I think it is unethical and very sneaky of AT&T to place all those unnecessary apps on the phone - especially if they turn out to be so costly.
So the only way to delete all those stupid apps is to root the phone? I am not a programmer and I am so afraid that I am going to mess it up
Don't need to root in order to uninstall apps just go to setting>application>manage application>Downloaded apps> and uninstall them. This is all the bloatware that you don't need so go through carefully and uninstall what you don't need. It will help you increase battery life.
justcalled said:
Thank you for all your replies, each one taught me something about this new phone and I downloaded a few of the apps that you mentioned.
So all day I was being very careful about the internet, tracking my 4G/WiFi usage all day and then in the evening my kid pressed on a game icon and some kind of car game downloaded =adding over 70MB to my data transfer right away!! (and my monthly budget is 200MB)
It took a couple of seconds - he actually just pressed on the icon and then pressed home when he saw a car because he decided he doesn't want to play it. But it downloaded anyway! I am so mad!
I think it is unethical and very sneaky of AT&T to place all those unnecessary apps on the phone - especially if they turn out to be so costly.
So the only way to delete all those stupid apps is to root the phone? I am not a programmer and I am so afraid that I am going to mess it up
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Yes, I noticed that I can remove what I have installed. However, I wanted to get rid of pre-installed apps and their icons. I have not found a way to remove those.
Yes root and Rom toolbox app will help you with that.
justcalled said:
Yes, I noticed that I can remove what I have installed. However, I wanted to get rid of pre-installed apps and their icons. I have not found a way to remove those.
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And if you call Att and tell them that it wasn't authorized they'll credit your account
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Your wifi is turned on but you aren't connected to your Hoke network...go to settings>wireless and networks>wifi settings>then pick whichever network is yours and put in a password if it requires one
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nthknd ,
I was hoping for that, but when I called AT&T, they didn't want to credit my account, just the opposite, they made me up my data plan to 2G. They said in the beginning people tend to use data more as they explore the new phone - in a few months, once I figure out my monthly usage, I can change my plan and go back to 200MB or whatever.
They also tried to fix my issues with internet (when only WiFi was showing -no 4G- the phone would not connect to internet). So they fixed it and now I have internet access when only WiFi is showing on the top bar.
On the other hand, now 4G completely disappeared! I haven't seen it all day..
Either AT&T is having technical difficulties or I got disconnected from 4G!
Sorry my advise didn't work but they should credit you since your phone malfunction,guess it depends on who you get guess it's a crap shoot.
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appdroid said:
Well sometimes for me it shows both icons in status bar. All i do is turn off wifi and turn back and the 4G LTE icon disappears.
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They can't make you!
justcalled said:
nthknd ,
I was hoping for that, but when I called AT&T, they didn't want to credit my account, just the opposite, they made me up my data plan to 2G. They said in the beginning people tend to use data more as they explore the new phone - in a few months, once I figure out my monthly usage, I can change my plan and go back to 200MB or whatever.
They also tried to fix my issues with internet (when only WiFi was showing -no 4G- the phone would not connect to internet). So they fixed it and now I have internet access when only WiFi is showing on the top bar.
On the other hand, now 4G completely disappeared! I haven't seen it all day..
Either AT&T is having technical difficulties or I got disconnected from 4G!
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They can't make you upgrade your data. The guy you talked to is just trying to rip you off so he gets commission for upgrading you to a "better" data plan. It's your account and you can pick what you want for it. If you want 200 MB then call and switch it back and say the last rep said you had to and made you do it.
Hi all,
I am having an issue with my Nexus 5 using huge amounts of my mobile data (T-Mobile) when connected to wifi even when I'm not using it. What's crazy is that this keeps happening almost exclusively between 2-6am when I'm not awake. It also happens to an even further extent when I'm connected to wifi at work and not using my phone either. Heres a breakdown:
11/12 5:48 AM - 27.57 MB
11/13 3:33 AM - 12.42 MB
11/14 5:15 AM - 14.21 MB
11/12 2:53 PM - 49.57 MB
11/13 2:39 PM - 27.97 MB
I called T-Mobile and they said that it shows that I definitely used my data during those times. I have almost nothing running in the background that uses any data and have turned off my GPS to see if that will help.
Anyone else having the same problems or have any advice?
Thanks,
Chris
Only thing that comes to mind is that your wifi connection is being dropped for some reason, and your phone switches to mobile data instead.
About why data is being used at that time, it is very likely that there are some apps that are using background data - you may have disabled this for a bunch of apps, but may have missed some.
Check data usage under settings to see if you can identify the culprit (you can use the sliders to narrow down - though it doesn't seem to let you narrow down to a specific timeframe)
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Only thing that comes to mind is that your wifi connection is being dropped for some reason, and your phone switches to mobile data instead.
About why data is being used at that time, it is very likely that there are some apps that are using background data - you may have disabled this for a bunch of apps, but may have missed some.
Check data usage under settings to see if you can identify the culprit (you can use the sliders to narrow down - though it doesn't seem to let you narrow down to a specific timeframe)
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Where can setup this prioritization? For example if I want the phone to use mobile data and override Wifi?
megakony said:
Where can setup this prioritization? For example if I want the phone to use mobile data and override Wifi?
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I may be mistaken, but I don't think you can do that on stock ROM at least. If WiFi is available, it will always try to use WiFi
For whatever reason, if you want to use Mobile data, you will need to turn WiFi off.
If you always want to use mobile data for a given app or want to use mobile data in a specific time range, you could use tasker app to set up a profile to disable WiFi when that app is launched (or in that time range)
jj14 said:
Only thing that comes to mind is that your wifi connection is being dropped for some reason, and your phone switches to mobile data instead.
About why data is being used at that time, it is very likely that there are some apps that are using background data - you may have disabled this for a bunch of apps, but may have missed some.
Check data usage under settings to see if you can identify the culprit (you can use the sliders to narrow down - though it doesn't seem to let you narrow down to a specific timeframe)
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Thanks. I did check last night to see what apps were using the most data and it was by far feedly but I'm not sure why that would be using data when I'm not awake. Does anyone else have that problem with feedly? Isn't it also strange that it keeps happening at roughly the same times every day?
Also wanted to add that I came from a Galaxy S2 running Cyanogen and never had this issue.
jj14 said:
I may be mistaken, but I don't think you can do that on stock ROM at least. If WiFi is available, it will always try to use WiFi
For whatever reason, if you want to use Mobile data, you will need to turn WiFi off.
If you always want to use mobile data for a given app or want to use mobile data in a specific time range, you could use tasker app to set up a profile to disable WiFi when that app is launched (or in that time range)
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I just checked my gf's Galaxy Young...in there when you go to WIFI and access Advanced and there you can set Wifi Sleep policy.
The options I got are "When screen turns off", "Never when plugged in" and "Never"...not really the options I'd imagine for this =)
danotoriusodo said:
Thanks. I did check last night to see what apps were using the most data and it was by far feedly but I'm not sure why that would be using data when I'm not awake. Does anyone else have that problem with feedly? Isn't it also strange that it keeps happening at roughly the same times every day?
Also wanted to add that I came from a Galaxy S2 running Cyanogen and never had this issue.
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Did you check settings on your feedly? It sounds like it does a daily sync which some RSS readers I'd imagine would do.
I don't have feedly on my phone, but if it has some decent settings it should have one to sync only via wifi or similar.
xShadoWxDrifTx said:
Did you check settings on your feedly? It sounds like it does a daily sync which some RSS readers I'd imagine would do.
I don't have feedly on my phone, but if it has some decent settings it should have one to sync only via wifi or similar.
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Yea I checked the feedly settings section and there isn't anything related to sync. The app actually only refreshes when it's opened. For now I went into the "data usage" section on my phone and selected "Restrict background data" for the app. Hopefully that works.
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Yea I checked the feedly settings section and there isn't anything related to sync. The app actually only refreshes when it's opened. For now I went into the "data usage" section on my phone and selected "Restrict background data" for the app. Hopefully that works.
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It actually gets even crazier. Last night before I went to bed I turned off my mobile data by going to setting>data usage and it still shows at 5:19 AM that I used 43 MB of data. I mean the only explanation I could think of is I'm sleep walking and using my phone lol. I called T-Mobile and it definitely shows on their end I did use the data at that time. They also couldn't help me because they don't have the phone yet. Can't believe that no one else is having this problem. Guess I have to contact Google which should be really useful smh.
Hi there
As you know in lollipop this fall back to data feature exists if the wifi connection has no internet(officially called "WI-FI to Cellular handover").
Has anyone investigated how does the system check for internet connection on wifi? It must ping something on the outside world.
Whats more important is there a way to disable this feature so that the system behaves like in kitkat?
Thanks
td32 said:
Hi there
As you know in lollipop this fall back to data feature exists if the wifi connection has no internet.
Has anyone investigated how does the system check for internet connection on wifi? It must ping something on the outside world.
Whats more important is there a way to disable this feature so that the system behaves like in kitkat?
Thanks
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It pings Google's servers.
I don't understand why google hasn't offered a switch(on-off) for this. I can imagine some situations where this is quite bad. Imagine you have a small data plan and you use wifi to download stuff and suddenly wifi stops reaching the internet so the connection falls back to data and all your data plan is vanished in just a few minutes.
There must be a switch for disabling this feature.
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I don't understand why google hasn't offered a switch(on-off) for this. I can imagine some situations where this is quite bad. Imagine you have a small data plan and you use wifi to download stuff and suddenly wifi stops reaching the internet so the connection falls back to data and all your data plan is vanished in just a few minutes.
There must be a switch for disabling this feature.
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Just turn off data? lol
enable wifi-> remember to disable data
disable wifi-> remember to enable data
why do this shi" every time you switch to&back form wifi when you can set it ONCE for all, and let it work as it should!!
td32 said:
enable wifi-> remember to disable data
disable wifi-> remember to enable data
why do this shi" every time you switch to&back form wifi when you can set it ONCE for all, and let it work as it should!!
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I always did it since GB so no big deal to me I guess lol, could be annoying for others.
still annoying
It is some time later but I have a particularly annoying issue with this, nothing to do with data volumes. I used to really like the feature but recently I have had to use gconnect on an internal network to sign in, by the time I have signed on the network is on 4g and he request doesn't go through. Annoyingly now I need to disconnect mobile data in order to login to my companies wifi.
Just a little inconvenient. I dont suppose anyone has a better solution?
Since I've my own Wi-Fi connection I don't need to use mobile data. After inserting my SIM card into my OnePlus one, the first thing I did was to switch off the mobile data. But still when I wake up my phone after a long while I see there's been a deduction from my balance towards mobile data usage, which I never did. I checked the settings to make sure the mobile data is off, which was off. Now I don't understand which program is using the mobile data and how on earth it can override the permission. Please help somebody, I'm at my wits end.
You can use a data monitoring app from the play store to help you what apps are using your data. I use an app called "Data Monitor"
Hello
I am using latest .93 firmware and i have noticed strange thing: something are turning on data transfer and then disable it.
My data trasfer is turned off, after disabling i hide the notification "data trasmission in cellular is turned off" but after some time when phone is inactive the notification appears and seems that i got charged by using data.
The monitors doesn't show any info which app using data transfer.
Are You experienced this ?
Is there any way to check logs which application enabling data transfer / how to block it ?
Seems even if i block cellular data for any app the connection to network is made and few kilobytes pass through.
Do You have any ideas ?
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Hello
I am using latest .93 firmware and i have noticed strange thing: something are turning on data transfer and then disable it.
My data trasfer is turned off, after disabling i hide the notification "data trasmission in cellular is turned off" but after some time when phone is inactive the notification appears and seems that i got charged by using data.
The monitors doesn't show any info which app using data transfer.
Are You experienced this ?
Is there any way to check logs which application enabling data transfer / how to block it ?
Seems even if i block cellular data for any app the connection to network is made and few kilobytes pass through.
Do You have any ideas ?
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I don't have that problem at all I'm on 33.2.A.2.93 myself, is the background data turned off for each and every app go to settings data usage and click on each and every app in the list for data+WiFi and set the slider at the bottom to the on position. The notification you get to say that data is disabled that looks like a small globe will come and go on its own anyway usually when you wake up the xa it's how it is it doesn't mean it has actually used any data it's to remind you it's off
Have you also turned the Bluetooth+WiFi always scanning for connections Inc when they are actually turned off. Go to settings location and tap the three dots top right turn both sliders to the off position.
This should stop any background data being used and won't effect the way any of the apps work
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jishek said:
Hello
I am using latest .93 firmware and i have noticed strange thing: something are turning on data transfer and then disable it.
My data trasfer is turned off, after disabling i hide the notification "data trasmission in cellular is turned off" but after some time when phone is inactive the notification appears and seems that i got charged by using data.
The monitors doesn't show any info which app using data transfer.
Are You experienced this ?
Is there any way to check logs which application enabling data transfer / how to block it ?
Seems even if i block cellular data for any app the connection to network is made and few kilobytes pass through.
Do You have any ideas ?
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+1 sometimes !
The bluetooth, wifi, cellular(agps) location helpers are OFF.
Trying for now not to disable all cellular data(the switch to block all traffic) because i am trying to indentify app that cause problem.
I get used to manually turn on and off cellular data and would like to keep that way with this phone.
'thing' that turn on data make me nuts.
"small globe notification" appeared once in last half day - t-mobile app says usage of 200kb but Data Usage Monitor does show nothing
I think that issue depend on signal strength.. Always when back from basement which is located underground i had that notification about mobile data.. Also in forest, when signal is gone or rly poor.
But had no idea which app is responsible for that. Also trying few times turn off notifications in random sys apps and nothing so far..
The beggining of the end...
The telegram app shows notifications too, strangw notifications, why? The app is not listed on the detailed ps list, is not running anything related to telegram, ate least the unrecognized service that poped up the notification.
This is new method they are using.
Is not online, but the notifications is poping up.
Called as Multidex odex(or dex from the app) and cached secondary-dexes provided by them when we last tine was online.
We ended and closed the app, but, the secondary dexes are in the Memory opened
Someday i was searching why my apps are all closed , but the ram is sluggy and filled?
This is why.
Preventing yourself agains these new kind of apks before installing.
This may contain virus.
This is destroying the cpu and the ram.
These secondary dexes processes are hidden, and unkillable (unless i root and forbid services)
Nothing is turning on the data.
The cached dexes are running in hidden background, showing the notifications that was not readed when was the app online.
This is a serious damage menace.
I disagree with this, after i discovered this, now, i am denying packages with Multidex inside.
Sent from SomeFon
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I forgot to mention:
Imagine:
I am running a newsapp, with fully adblock in action.
They will search a "V".
They creates a temporary secondary-dex, when my installation id is on line reading their news, the cached dex is , for exampling: deleting my pictures, uploading something mine to their servers, deleting musics, corrupting files, etc.
due to the secondary dex is updated periodically... on cache, free for do what they want do on my device...
They found "V" Vengeance
Because i am Ad blocker
Only because this.
This is why the RootCloak was created.
To hide root and commands that some apps runs in hidden background
I tried search how to forbid this Multidexes apps.
But untill now, the solution is
Not install.
Check the package before installing and read the Manifest.xml about the multidex version.
If no multidex tag found, is safe apk.
Remember the Quadrooter.
They may creates a secondary-dex for destroy the gpu easyly.
Sent from SomeFon
Rafixxxx said:
I think that issue depend on signal strength.. Always when back from basement which is located underground i had that notification about mobile data.. Also in forest, when signal is gone or rly poor.
But had no idea which app is responsible for that. Also trying few times turn off notifications in random sys apps and nothing so far..
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Yes, you are right! I have checked that.
That notification reappears when i lost signal and get it back. Appears also when i turn on airplane mode and then switch it off.
So nothing actually switch on cellular data BUT ...
i found what cause the problem
it's localization
I have it enabled BUT helpers are switched OFF (wifi+cellular) and bluetooth but it still using AGPS.
When i use app that use localization - for example speedtest app (using wifi) then localization icon appears and a moment later two arrows (up/down) appear on gsm signal.
so the question is :
How can i disable AGPS ?? (settings -> localization -> three dots -> scanning -> both options are OFF)
Please someone check if You have same problem (turned agps off and using app with localization and celular data disabled you get two arrows on gsm signal)
EDIT: The mode of GPS is: only device. Note that evey switch off and on it defaults to best accuracy.
When i make sure it's only GPS (agps disabled) and helpers are off and run speedtest with localization it STILL using agps
BUG ?
The OS itself downloads data too, even on rooted.
100 per month going where ?
hp6830s said:
The OS itself downloads data too, even on rooted.
100 per month going where ?
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Yes but android OS doesn't use data traffic when data traffic is disabled.
AGPS does
Solved
Problem was resolved by SONY's support:
Selecting device only will not disable assisted start on the GPS. It only disables location by WiFi, mobile network and bluetooth.
What you can try is to go to Settings -> More -> Mobile networks -> Access Point Names. Here check the APN type on all your APNs. If you have "supl" on the APN-type, try to remove this. Then turn off mobile data or connect to WiFi and see if it still uses the mobile network.
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Apn type says - default, supl. But there is no way to change it.Its greyed.
I think the only way is to dissable 4g (when not using the phone or when wi fi is active) , and remain on H+, for me its free. And that way will not lose my 1 Gb quota.
hp6830s said:
Apn type says - default, supl. But there is no way to change it.Its greyed.
I think the only way is to dissable 4g (when not using the phone or when wi fi is active) , and remain on H+, for me its free. And that way will not lose my 1 Gb quota.
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I have exactly the same issue. When I clicked on the APN type, I got a free text box and I didn't know what to type in. In the end I deleted the APN. This obviously means that I can't use mobile data when I want to. This is very frustrating and seems like a bug. Please post if you find a solution...