I'm pretty sure the N5 won't be available through Verizon's network, so before I sell my S4 (i have MDK baseband and seen 'em go for well over $400) to by a N5 i want to know if there are hacks to do to get it to work on Verizon's network?
Apologies if question has been asked and answered, I'm about to leave work and don't want to filter through a milion threads...
also, Verizon ROMS with this?
Nope. Sorry bud
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like the person said above me..no..never have and never will
There are still threads here and there with people claiming that they're close to getting it to work, but I assure you that they're not and it won't.
Since Verizon is the one that controls that, if they don't have your ESN in their database you'll NEVER get it on their network, EVER, EVER!11!!1
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After much searching I found lots of 'no you can't's, but I haven't found any posts that are recent, ...in the last 6 months.
I have a Sprint Touch Pro 2 that I successfully got working on Page Plus. I would like to get it on my folks' Verizon family plan. I called an agent and they said if it doesn't have a Verizon logo on it, it's not possible.
I question this, but I've found no one of late posting about this.
I think the phone will work on Verizon, it may just need the ESN number activated on their network.
I remember someone here or at PPCGeeks activated it for me on PagePlus, is there anyone/any way to activate it on Verizon?
I like the phone, I just don't need data, so I don't want a regular Verizon phone.
thanks,
Yes, you can get it activated on VZW... The only problem is this... you can't do it legally or ethically... It would involve doing things against VZW's rules as well as the law... and you would need a "broken" TP2 (or other VZW phone) to do it... But that aside... the reason it worked with PagePlus is because they allow outside phones on their network, with giving you the responsibility to make it work on their network.. VZW is vey explicit that they will NOT allow anyone elses phones on their network (same with Sprint)... They are the worse 2 when it comes to that IMO..... Sorry to the bad news.... But sometimes that is how it goes.... Maybe you can post an ad on here offering to trade someone yours for the VZW version.. or maybe Craigslist?
Thanks,
Trading for a verizon phone won't work, as then I'll have to get data.
My bottom line question:
I need a smart phone, but I NEVER need data, wifi is always available for me. But I guess there is no way to have an Android phone on a Verizon network, without a data plan?
Not legally anyways, that's one of the downsides to using CDMA, the carrier has much greater control over what kind of phone you use. Thankfully they can't control the Rom/OS you run on it .
You need a Verizon rep that knows what they're doing, it can be done.
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MetroPCS does not have this phone listed in it's list of flashable phones.
How might I get this working? If I were to get my hands on a MetroPCS ROM for another android device, is it possible I could piece together a working ROM? Or does anyone have any other ideas?
It's currently set up for Sprint (clean ESN for Sprint, not that it matters much for what I'm trying to do).
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one rom for 1 phone doesn't work for another. it requires work to port
Yep, I got that. I was more asking if there is something I can get from an existing metropcs ROM to clue me in onto what changes to make.
If I reset the SPC, upload a metropcs PRL, and I'm assuming change any wap settings to use metropcs's internet... is that enough? Or is there really more to it than that?
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Yep, I got that. I was more asking if there is something I can get from an existing metropcs ROM to clue me in onto what changes to make.
If I reset the SPC, upload a metropcs PRL, and I'm assuming change any wap settings to use metropcs's internet... is that enough? Or is there really more to it than that?
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the answer is no.
WiMAX isn't even on MetroPCS. It uses LTE. There is just way too much difference in terms of radios and frequencies.
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the answer is no.
WiMAX isn't even on MetroPCS. It uses LTE. There is just way too much difference in terms of radios and frequencies.
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Ahhh. Thanks for the info. Guess I'll activate on Sprint then. Anything to get away from AT&T right now, service in my areas has been horrible for months.
Metropcs nexus S`
Well obviously the 4g portion of it is different.
Now the evdo and supposedly 3g should work on are where metropcs has it.
Its no problem otherwise you can do everything you can with the nexus, just at a slower Internet speed.
You should probably be able to follow a tutorial for a samsung phone.
Is it possible to get an unlocked CDMA Nexus S so that I can use it with Metro PCS. Which brings up another question, would Metro PCS allow me to use the Nexus S on their service?
Technically, the Nexus S as well as the Nexus S 4G are "unlocked" and can be rooted with no special hacks. I would imagine that MetroPCS can develop their own ROM along with a radio and make it available on their site if users choose to do that. I don't believe there is anything in Sprint's contract which would cause a lawsuit for doing that.
The question is if MetroPCS will allow this phone on their network... it's up to them but I don't see why not, as they don't make money on phones anyway (I think)
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Technically, the Nexus S as well as the Nexus S 4G are "unlocked" and can be rooted with no special hacks. I would imagine that MetroPCS can develop their own ROM along with a radio and make it available on their site if users choose to do that. I don't believe there is anything in Sprint's contract which would cause a lawsuit for doing that.
The question is if MetroPCS will allow this phone on their network... it's up to them but I don't see why not, as they don't make money on phones anyway (I think)
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Why would MetroPCS make a ROM for a phone that is unsupported? They'd have to go to Google to make a compatible phone in the first place.
Why would they spend money on making a ROM for the Nexus S? That just makes no sense. A radio is also not open-sourced. Radios can only be created by Samsung or Google for the Nexus S.
Get your facts straight
Whoever asked the thread said nothing about ROMs. He asked if an unlocked nexus s could be flashed over to metro which it should be able to.
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Whoever asked the thread said nothing about ROMs. He asked if an unlocked nexus s could be flashed over to metro which it should be able to.
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Hey guys I have ns4g just about everything works except for mms..if you want mms you have to use whatsapp...so if you guys can build a metro rom for the ns4g that will be great
I have a 3uk iphone sim with calls,texts and unlimited data which I would like to use on my tab - it works fine for voice and texts, but 3uk have blocked the data as they have detected that it's being used in a tab - I have tried the arguement that the 7 plus is actually a fully fledged phone, but that fell on deaf ears. So my question - has anyone managed to change the tabs identity by ammending the build.prop or similar to make it appear to the network that it's a different handset and allow a phone sim to work unrestricted. I would gladly buy a tablet sim if such a thing existed with voice minutes aswell as a decent ammount of data.
its likely your IMEI which is blacklisted, etc. Wow I havent even heard of any reports of AT&T doing this in the US which they are well known for.
Im sure there are others here tab plus as phone on 3 in UK.
my honest advice, as you said youve tried arguing already. search around on 3 customer support forums, ask about it, maybe you'll find a nice rep, which is may be your only hope. I would search sites like xda maybe for a person with a signature saying they work as a three support rep. Other than change networks, thats my best advice.
lets just say i found a nice rep here on xda which did me a great favor. dont get anyone in trouble though. peace and good luck.
oh yeah and F#€% anyone that tells you this is not a phone, their awareness is obviously limited.
Hey guys. This should be a relatively easy one for some of the people here I think.
I recently bought a Verizon GS3, the i535. I'm in Canada, and was unaware this phone did not access the 3g/4g/lte bands here.
Quick question: I have my phone rooted and I'm looking at installing custom roms. I've been lead to believe some roms can unlock the bands that I need on this phone. Is this true?
I have obviously tried searching but the results always come up with EVERYTHING lol. I would just like a clear decisive answer, from someone who has possibly done it?
Ok so maybe it's not an easy one? ...
btw there are way too many image verifications on this forum, holy moly lol
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Ok so maybe it's not an easy one? ...
btw there are way too many image verifications on this forum, holy moly lol
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A rom will not change any of those settings, the best you're going to get is probably edge data, but 3g is possible under some circumstances.
Are you on Verizon's network? If not you're going to have to change the apn to get it to work on your carrier.
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No I'm not with Verizon. I'm not even in the US lol.
I bought a phone stupidly and believe I am now paying for it. The phone technically has all the bands and settings. You can do the #*2263# thing and get into options to select / "force" them...but they just dont take or something?
I only have edge connectivity right now, you are correct.
This whole APN thing is very confusing or I'm very stupid. I"ve entered my carrier, Fido's APN settings and it does nothing because the phone isnt using the correct bands.
The Verizon phone is technically an international, or global phone whatever you wanna call it. in the hidden menus of the phone there is a place where you can manually select the CMDA, GSM and LTE frequencies.
Does this not mean that the phone -has- these frequencies and that its just something Verizon has done to keep the phone on THEIR network?
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The Verizon phone is technically an international, or global phone whatever you wanna call it. in the hidden menus of the phone there is a place where you can manually select the CMDA, GSM and LTE frequencies.
Does this not mean that the phone -has- these frequencies and that its just something Verizon has done to keep the phone on THEIR network?
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Theoretically it should be able to work, but the development for that feature never took off and all the bands weren't unlocked for all carriers. But changing your apn might enable a band you need for your specific carrier to give you 3g data.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1809314
This might work, and the simplified method might open a band that you need.
Edit: and yes, locking down other bands is Verizon's way of keeping it on their carrier. You can pay them a hefty fee to unlock the band you need if you're traveling, but this isn't really an option for you. There's a bounty thread trying to unlock these bands in the general section, but it's pretty much dead nowadays because most of the devs capable of figuring it out are on newer phones.
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I have found both of these threads mentioned. The bounty thread was very interesting, but unfortunately came to an end.
Every other option I've read is installing 16 apps, 1000 people saying "how do i do this??", and one guy saying "i did it"
I think i'm just going to sell this thing...
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Theoretically it should be able to work, but the development for that feature never took off and all the bands weren't unlocked for all carriers. But changing your apn might enable a band you need for your specific carrier to give you 3g data.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1809314
This might work, and the simplified method might open a band that you need.
Edit: and yes, locking down other bands is Verizon's way of keeping it on their carrier. You can pay them a hefty fee to unlock the band you need if you're traveling, but this isn't really an option for you. There's a bounty thread trying to unlock these bands in the general section, but it's pretty much dead nowadays because most of the devs capable of figuring it out are on newer phones.
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I have found both of these threads mentioned. The bounty thread was very interesting, but unfortunately came to an end.
Every other option I've read is installing 16 apps, 1000 people saying "how do i do this??", and one guy saying "i did it"
I think i'm just going to sell this thing...
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Haha, yes basically that's what that entire thread says, but the basis of it is converting an apn manager to a system app. That will allow you to make an apn stick, which should force enable the bands you weren't able to get working in the first place.
Selling the phone isn't a bad idea either, then you can do a little more research and find something that might give you 4G signal. There's no way you're getting anything that good with this phone.
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Well when you say that you make it seem so easy LOL. I've had the same blackberry for four years and just 3 days ago bought this S3. I had no idea companies would still be doing this locking bands nonsense. If I do sell the phone, anyone I sell it to will just be in the same boat I am right now... and theres no way I can sell this things to an American for what I paid for it.
Sigh
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Haha, yes basically that's what that entire thread says, but the basis of it is converting an apn manager to a system app. That will allow you to make an apn stick, which should force enable the bands you weren't able to get working in the first place.
Selling the phone isn't a bad idea either, then you can do a little more research and find something that might give you 4G signal. There's no way you're getting anything that good with this phone.
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Another thing that is very confusing to me is a lot of people are posting that they need APN manager to be able to edit APN settings. My phone allowed me to do that out of the box, and like I mentioned, I was able to add my carriers APN stuff, but only get 2G speed.
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Another thing that is very confusing to me is a lot of people are posting that they need APN manager to be able to edit APN settings. My phone allowed me to do that out of the box, and like I mentioned, I was able to add my carriers APN stuff, but only get 2G speed.
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Somebody will take it, if it's brand new then $400 isn't unreasonable. You'd do better with the i9300 model.
Any phone tied into a carrier is going to have issues like that, but I'd look into either getting the international versions of phones, or possibly a nexus 5 if it works on your carrier. That phone looks pretty amazing.
Again, trying those settings wouldn't hurt anything and might give you what you're looking for, post 108 has the simplified procedure in only like 5 steps.
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Somebody will take it, if it's brand new then $400 isn't unreasonable. You'd do better with the i9300 model.
Any phone tied into a carrier is going to have issues like that, but I'd look into either getting the international versions of phones, or possibly a nexus 5 if it works on your carrier. That phone looks pretty amazing.
Again, trying those settings wouldn't hurt anything and might give you what you're looking for, post 108 has the simplified procedure in only like 5 steps.
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I found that post, and read a few following pages and there didnt seem to be any input. Its almost like no one saw his post. I did go into my phone, and all of those settings are there. The GS3 they dole out up here is the i747.
This things could go for upwards of $400 in the states? I only paid 315 up here, and it had all the protective stickers and nothings been opened lol.
Well I bricked the phone playing around with it...
Installed CWM for some reason, cant remember why. First thing I click was backup current rom, phone rebooted and now says software not authorized by verizon. I hope some of you more mentally capable folk out there find some comedy in my errors, because I have no clue what im doing
Just wondering does anyone think/know if the nexus 5 will be able to utilize Verizon network since they will be offering the nexus 6 and the nexus 5 is compatible with their network?
It sure would be nice to have my nexus 5 moved to Verizon. And this is not an actual question just thinking out loud rather. In any case if this needs to be moved then by all means mod please move it.
Also Verizon now has the bring your own device program as long as its compatible with their network.
No, no it wont
A new phone comes out that works on said network. This obviously means the old phone that doesn't will suddenly work too right? Use your brain.
Not to be a downer but this has been asked multiple upon multiple times on the Nexus 5 forum, a simple google search would have given you the answer you needed.
Technically it is compatible since it works on Sprint and someone stuck a Verizon SIM in and got LTE. You probably could do Page Plus or similar since they can add ESNs.
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Technically it is compatible since it works on Sprint and someone stuck a Verizon SIM in and got LTE. You probably could do Page Plus or similar since they can add ESNs.
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no no no no. Its compatible with 1 freq band and from what ive read its only LTE and VOlte that works, which means 99% of the places you go it wont work
There is only data. No voice.
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no no no no. Its compatible with 1 freq band and from what ive read its only LTE and VOlte that works, which means 99% of the places you go it wont work
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Well the phone is compatible based off the bands the radio utilizes. My question is since Verizon is opening up to what phones can be used on their network is there anyone who works for Verizon know of they have plans of allowing the nexus 5.
Their prepaid Boyd allows you to bring a Verizon branded phone and or compatible phone, not sure about the last part because the wording is confusing.
Also Verizon allowing the nexus 6 to work on their network could be a stepping stone as they have the same bands. Google has said they will not be discontinuing the nexus 5 which makes the phone still relevant.
Again I am just seeking anyone with knowledge as to if Verizon with the changes they have been making will allow the ESN to be added to their data base and the phone used on their network.
Right now it won't work. What they do in the future, only Verizon can answer. ?
OK so I stand corrected about the LTE bands. But if you can get the ESN added or use a prepaid or MVNO you should be golden. There is a thread on flashing CDMA. But my point is it isn't 100% negatively impossible.
If you have decent AT&T coverage and don't want to pay for it though, Cricket is a good option as well.
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OK so I stand corrected about the LTE bands. But if you can get the ESN added or use a prepaid or MVNO you should be golden. There is a thread on flashing CDMA. But my point is it isn't 100% negatively impossible.
If you have decent AT&T coverage and don't want to pay for it though, Cricket is a good option as well.
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It is currently at this time, 100% impossible to get a nexus 5 useable on Verizon.
I guess people don't read the older Verizon and the n5 threads, and/or they just don't believe them, and do everything all over again(like its a new idea). then they realize the truth later on. anyways, you can use your n5 data only on Verizon, and use the hangouts dialer with your google number to make calls over data. but that's it.
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I guess people don't read the older Verizon and the n5 threads, and/or they just don't believe them, and do everything all over again(like its a new idea). then they realize the truth later on. anyways, you can use your n5 data only on Verizon, and use the hangouts dialer with your google number to make calls over data. but that's it.
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No they don't.
Here is one such thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2505847
simms22 said:
I guess people don't read the older Verizon and the n5 threads, and/or they just don't believe them, and do everything all over again(like its a new idea). then they realize the truth later on. anyways, you can use your n5 data only on Verizon, and use the hangouts dialer with your google number to make calls over data. but that's it.
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and its only if you have a LTE connection. once you leave LTE area, you get nothing.
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and its only if you have a LTE connection. once you leave LTE area, you get nothing.
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right
I'm honestly surprised these threads don't get locked since there's so many of them. One of the others should be pinned so that people can stop asking this.