I have a 3uk iphone sim with calls,texts and unlimited data which I would like to use on my tab - it works fine for voice and texts, but 3uk have blocked the data as they have detected that it's being used in a tab - I have tried the arguement that the 7 plus is actually a fully fledged phone, but that fell on deaf ears. So my question - has anyone managed to change the tabs identity by ammending the build.prop or similar to make it appear to the network that it's a different handset and allow a phone sim to work unrestricted. I would gladly buy a tablet sim if such a thing existed with voice minutes aswell as a decent ammount of data.
its likely your IMEI which is blacklisted, etc. Wow I havent even heard of any reports of AT&T doing this in the US which they are well known for.
Im sure there are others here tab plus as phone on 3 in UK.
my honest advice, as you said youve tried arguing already. search around on 3 customer support forums, ask about it, maybe you'll find a nice rep, which is may be your only hope. I would search sites like xda maybe for a person with a signature saying they work as a three support rep. Other than change networks, thats my best advice.
lets just say i found a nice rep here on xda which did me a great favor. dont get anyone in trouble though. peace and good luck.
oh yeah and F#€% anyone that tells you this is not a phone, their awareness is obviously limited.
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After much searching I found lots of 'no you can't's, but I haven't found any posts that are recent, ...in the last 6 months.
I have a Sprint Touch Pro 2 that I successfully got working on Page Plus. I would like to get it on my folks' Verizon family plan. I called an agent and they said if it doesn't have a Verizon logo on it, it's not possible.
I question this, but I've found no one of late posting about this.
I think the phone will work on Verizon, it may just need the ESN number activated on their network.
I remember someone here or at PPCGeeks activated it for me on PagePlus, is there anyone/any way to activate it on Verizon?
I like the phone, I just don't need data, so I don't want a regular Verizon phone.
thanks,
Yes, you can get it activated on VZW... The only problem is this... you can't do it legally or ethically... It would involve doing things against VZW's rules as well as the law... and you would need a "broken" TP2 (or other VZW phone) to do it... But that aside... the reason it worked with PagePlus is because they allow outside phones on their network, with giving you the responsibility to make it work on their network.. VZW is vey explicit that they will NOT allow anyone elses phones on their network (same with Sprint)... They are the worse 2 when it comes to that IMO..... Sorry to the bad news.... But sometimes that is how it goes.... Maybe you can post an ad on here offering to trade someone yours for the VZW version.. or maybe Craigslist?
Thanks,
Trading for a verizon phone won't work, as then I'll have to get data.
My bottom line question:
I need a smart phone, but I NEVER need data, wifi is always available for me. But I guess there is no way to have an Android phone on a Verizon network, without a data plan?
Not legally anyways, that's one of the downsides to using CDMA, the carrier has much greater control over what kind of phone you use. Thankfully they can't control the Rom/OS you run on it .
You need a Verizon rep that knows what they're doing, it can be done.
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Hello,
I have a Samsung Galaxy S without a data-connection, I really need a data-connection becouse I think the phone really needs a data-connection.
So here's my question:
Is it possible to get a subscription of a data-only SIM (the subscriptions they use for tablets etc.)
It is possible to use that kind of SIM/subscription in a phone?
Since I don't really make calls or send text's I really need that but I still want to be able to call and send text's.
Does anyone got a answer?
I think it would be helpful if you told us where you're from. I'm pretty sure the conditions for data-only plans differ from country to country.
I'm from The Netherlands.
Data only sim should work fine. Curious to know, why you need data only sim on a phone. It kills the purpose of having a phone.
I tried some time ago in HTC Desire and it didn't work, still don't know why. (it works with PC + USB Huawei modem on both Windows and Linux, i have E1752 model)
And as an answer for qustion "why do you need it?" for example in Poland there is company which for the government licence for some frequences is obligated to offer free internet for 3 years. Don't think its lika a fairytale - internet disconnects after one hour and the speed is limited, but still can be very usefull when you are tight on budget or just need to check something quickly.
PS. maybe i should add that in this case voice service is disabled on the sim card level (tele service (ts11)) what seems to be a reason for some devices not to work.
edit: finally it appears to work. Dosen't display signal strength but websites (slowly) load.
Not even sure how to search for this and tried Google and some other forums, but settled on asking the question here when I couldn't find an answer.
To be specific: I have a Droid Incredible that is left over once a member of family plan upgraded to iPhone. We are on Verizon. Another member of the family plan has a basic phone (enV3) which is breaking so we need a non-data replacement. Since I have this extra Droid, I am trying to understand why we can't use it...
I know that Verizon requires a data package with any smart phone. My understanding of the magic you all do here is limited, but I have a vague thought that it has to do with ESN or MEID that tells Verizon what make & model phone you have, alerting them to the fact that you activated a smartphone on the line, and giving them the signal to slam some charges on the account for monthly data.
My question (finally) is why can't I just flash a ROM on the phone that disables the 3G antenna thing and makes the phone look like a basic phone to Verizon? Ideally I'd like to still have the ability to get on WiFi and use the phone features, just not the 3G data side of it. We already use it as an "iPod" like device. Even though it isn't activated, I can connect to Google Play and Amazon App Store over Wifi and install apps. I can check email. I can play games. I can even dial and get the operator where they say I can make a call if I enter a credit card. Why cant I keep all that functionality I already have and just hook it up to my family plan to make calls with it too? Maybe the answer is that it IS possible, but nobody is interested in creating such a ROM. Maybe there is some technical problem making it not feasible. Or maybe it does exist, but searching couldn't find it cause people rarely want to do such a thing...
I just want to learn why this cant be done, so someone enlighten me. If it actually can be done, all the better. Again, specific details are Droid Incredible on Verizon Wireless family plan.
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Not even sure how to search for this and tried Google and some other forums, but settled on asking the question here when I couldn't find an answer.
To be specific: I have a Droid Incredible that is left over once a member of family plan upgraded to iPhone. We are on Verizon. Another member of the family plan has a basic phone (enV3) which is breaking so we need a non-data replacement. Since I have this extra Droid, I am trying to understand why we can't use it...
I know that Verizon requires a data package with any smart phone. My understanding of the magic you all do here is limited, but I have a vague thought that it has to do with ESN or MEID that tells Verizon what make & model phone you have, alerting them to the fact that you activated a smartphone on the line, and giving them the signal to slam some charges on the account for monthly data.
My question (finally) is why can't I just flash a ROM on the phone that disables the 3G antenna thing and makes the phone look like a basic phone to Verizon? Ideally I'd like to still have the ability to get on WiFi and use the phone features, just not the 3G data side of it. We already use it as an "iPod" like device. Even though it isn't activated, I can connect to Google Play and Amazon App Store over Wifi and install apps. I can check email. I can play games. I can even dial and get the operator where they say I can make a call if I enter a credit card. Why cant I keep all that functionality I already have and just hook it up to my family plan to make calls with it too? Maybe the answer is that it IS possible, but nobody is interested in creating such a ROM. Maybe there is some technical problem making it not feasible. Or maybe it does exist, but searching couldn't find it cause people rarely want to do such a thing...
I just want to learn why this cant be done, so someone enlighten me. If it actually can be done, all the better. Again, specific details are Droid Incredible on Verizon Wireless family plan.
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Simple answer is that changing the ESN of a phone is illegal and will not be talked about on XDA. Can it be done. Maybe but you won't any info here on it. A search for change ESN would have told you this.
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I have a one-plan three sim that I have been using for ages as my unlimited portable internet access without any problems, then I put it in a tablet - still no problem. They don't mention any restriction on device use in the T&Cs. So I bought a PAYG SIM for my wife to use in her tablet. It worked for a few days then popped up with the message:
Taking your SIM card out of your mobile phone and putting it into a different device – like a dongle or tablet – isn’t what our phone plans of Add-ons were designed for.
There's no mention in the T&Cs of this but they obviously like the idea of me using it in a phone.
- - - My Questions are : How do they detect that a SIM is being used in a Tablet and not a Phone? (I'm assuming IMEI lookup or sth)
Are they going to do the same to my pay monthly SIM in my tablet?
How do I block it/reverse it if I need to (It's not in their T&Cs so it seems a little unfair)
There doesn't seem much on this when I googled it, though someone from PC Advisor had the same problem last year:
http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/opinion/...-only-pay-monthly-account-from-use-with-ipad/
beeste said:
I have a one-plan three sim that I have been using for ages as my unlimited portable internet access without any problems, then I put it in a tablet - still no problem. They don't mention any restriction on device use in the T&Cs. So I bought a PAYG SIM for my wife to use in her tablet. It worked for a few days then popped up with the message:
Taking your SIM card out of your mobile phone and putting it into a different device – like a dongle or tablet – isn’t what our phone plans of Add-ons were designed for.
There's no mention in the T&Cs of this but they obviously like the idea of me using it in a phone.
- - - My Questions are : How do they detect that a SIM is being used in a Tablet and not a Phone? (I'm assuming IMEI lookup or sth)
Are they going to do the same to my pay monthly SIM in my tablet?
How do I block it/reverse it if I need to (It's not in their T&Cs so it seems a little unfair)
There doesn't seem much on this when I googled it, though someone from PC Advisor had the same problem last year:
http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/opinion/...-only-pay-monthly-account-from-use-with-ipad/
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I'm interested in this too. I had an All You Can Eat data sim (PAYG) in my iPad and it worked fine for like 6 months.
That was like between just before Christmas of 2012 up to June/July 2013. I used like 30GB a month, it was EPIC!
Then, one day, everything stopped working. Just like that! And no matter what I try it's never worked again since!
I've even tried different sims in different tablets. They all work for like a day then the next day they're blocked again.
You know how there are hacks out there that enable tethering without the carrier knowing you're doing it?
Not many of them work in my experience but I have come across a couple that have, and still "do" work.
Is there a hack of some kind that can bypass this detection of a phone sim being used in an iPad?
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I'm interested in this too. I had an All You Can Eat data sim (PAYG) in my iPad and it worked fine for like 6 months.
That was like between just before Christmas of 2012 up to June/July 2013. I used like 30GB a month, it was EPIC!
Then, one day, everything stopped working. Just like that! And no matter what I try it's never worked again since!
I've even tried different sims in different tablets. They all work for like a day then the next day they're blocked again.
You know how there are hacks out there that enable tethering without the carrier knowing you're doing it?
Not many of them work in my experience but I have come across a couple that have, and still "do" work.
Is there a hack of some kind that can bypass this detection of a phone sim being used in an iPad?
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I got the sameproblem with giffgaff. Does no one no a solution?
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I'm curious as to a solution too.
No need to spoon feed me if you dont have the time.. Further reading links will do
still no answer to this?
Anyone got around this? Ive a feeling its browser based.
Right,... So I'm a newbie from London, England. I splurged on a new Galaxy Tab S t705 to use as my primary phone. I unfortunately found that my line carrier (3mobile) have a block that prevents using a normal voice sim card phone plan on their tablets. I have complained to no avail that its a phablet because it has a stock phone app but they will not budge. For personal reasons, I dont want to move carriers, so Im between a rock and several hard places.
I have tried every way for 4 days to get around this (and in the promise have been come a semi expert on firmware, flashing, odin, custom recovery, rooting, etc. I've soft-bricked my device several times and encountered numerous bootloops.
The end result is that I am a considerably wiser android user and will never go back to Apple or Windows after being enlightened to the world of Droid, BUT...I can't crack this sim block. How do they know I'm using a tablet and how do I get around it. There's a drink waiting for anyone who can help me and thousands of other Brits solve this riddle.
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The only info I have found is that I suspect it is browser based. As the internet seems to work fine for other things until you open a browser. Then it detects it and boom. SIM001 error.
This was on my Ipad. It was detecting both safari and chrome based sessions. So I suspect the build number of the browsers is what it reads. Of course this is all my own speculation. I ended up getting an ASDA mobile pay as you go for the rare occasions I am outside wifi with my iPad. If your tablet truly is a phone then 3 should allow you. But I appreciate you will get nowhere with there tech support. Computer says no.
The mobile service provider gets a lots of ID of your connection when you logon their network: SIM S/N, device IMEI, etc... and this is the important ID: the device. I guess they are able to identify the device as at least what kind, like phone, table, dongle, hotspot, etc... that's the only thing what they need... so my suggestion is changing the IMEI to another device to one which is on the whitelist. But I don't know how it could affect on the device...
So this past summer I purchased a 4G version of the A52 from Amazon, my main reason being it was cheaper than the 5G. Now I'm finding that this choice may be affecting my carrier situation. I am in the United States, and had Cricket Wireless at the time of purchasing the phone. It worked for about 4 hours, then the service quit on me. Apparently Cricket claimed that my phone did not have the proper technology, blah blah blah, something to do with the discontinuation of 3G and or VOLTE. This obviously does not make sense, since this phone is from 2021 and would not be made with old tech. Anyway, I got them to turn my sevice back on, after it being in a "suspended" state. It was still working for a while, and then some time in september I think Cricket sent a text to me (and my fiance as well, also has a phone cricket doesn't like) saying that they would start redirecting our calls to customer service to get us to "upgrade" since the phones would supposedly stop working completely in February or whenever 3G is supposed to go kaput. So, we switched to Mint, who claimed that our phones would both work on their network, and they did, except that the service sucks, even while being in a modest sized city. It also has little to no service at my work, and I'm convinced that T-mobile's service, at least through Mint, absolutely sucks.
So, my question is, what do you all suggest? Does anyone have this model, and what carrier are you with? What kind of luck (or lack thereof) has anyone been having?
Sorry if this has no place here, just doing all I can to get some answers
Well, I don't think I have a clear answer to your question, this is something that I found very very weird. I handed over a Galaxy S9+ to my fiancee who's carrier name I forget, I think it also got acquired by T-Mobile, but I'm not 100% certain. However, the phone didn't work properly. I can't remember what problems exactly it had but they were network related. Turns out that if you're going to change phones you need to go to a store for them to configure it and change it in their system. Otherwise it will either not work or not work properly.
And this was also the case with her sister who bought an unlocked, Mexican phone and she also had to take it to the store for them to configure it. It would have these problems unless she took it to them.
You would assume that all you need is to insert the SIM and it would work out the box but I don't know why this carrier had this method which just makes everything so annoying and complicated when it doesn't need to be. Oh and this isn't a one time thing, every time they changed phones they would need to do this! So you should probably look at going this route, it's my best guess.
EDIT: Oh and also before we knew this, we had also purchased a Galaxy Note 3 (which yeah it's old, but had 4G when I used it with my carrier and all of a sudden it turned to 3G when used on her carrier) so we ended up giving it away. So it was definitely a carrier problem. It was so annoying.