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hi,
What is better choice 3d or 2x? or where is better support....
lets see what ppl say about this....
2x has a bigger community, much more roms to choose from and is generally better supported. If you don't need 3D and you can live with a smaller screen and slightly lower performance you can buy 2x a fair bit cheaper than O3D. Also, LG confirmed that 2x will receive official ICS.
I think LG made the same commitment for the O3D regarding Ice Cream Sandwich, so that's no issue
I agree with the rest of your post though, if you want the latest and fastest and are interested in playing and recording 3D content, get the O3D. Otherwise, get the 2X which is cheaper and more supported by third parties, though I hope that with the update to Gingerbread starting to roll out more parties will be interested to make roms for the O3D.
Or wait and get a quadcore based phone next year
Besides hardware and specs... its a question of do you want your cake now or later? 2x has more roms and stuff but look at how much the O3D and Thrill forums are blowing up. Things are coming along here and soon we will have just as much as everyone else. Also I think most of the roms for this phone are pretty well put together. You might have a lot more rom choices right now on another phone but how many of them are even worth flashing? O3D and Thrill are just getting off the ground and have some pretty new tech in them and we already have a good amount of roms and now kernels are being brought out. We are going to be one of the first to get CM9 and once everything for this phone is figured out I am sure it will blow the 2x and many other phones away.
...fighting ninjas at night, talkin' about this and that.
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Besides hardware and specs... its a question of do you want your cake now or later? 2x has more roms and stuff but look at how much the O3D and Thrill forums are blowing up. Things are coming along here and soon we will have just as much as everyone else. Also I think most of the roms for this phone are pretty well put together. You might have a lot more rom choices right now on another phone but how many of them are even worth flashing? O3D and Thrill are just getting off the ground and have some pretty new tech in them and we already have a good amount of roms and now kernels are being brought out. We are going to be one of the first to get CM9 and once everything for this phone is figured out I am sure it will blow the 2x and many other phones away.
...fighting ninjas at night, talkin' about this and that.
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Well spoken.
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Optimus 2X has the Harmony Tegra2 Chipset.
There's NO support whatsoever from NVIDIA for that chipset.
There's NO open source drivers for that chipset.
There's serious doubts about the possibility of implementing ICS on Harmony without the binary blob from NVIDIA.
On the other hand, TI releases all their code for the OMAP platform.
It's an ideological reason, but for me (and for the medium/long-term implications) I choose the open option.
@Beriaru
Can I conclude from your post above that the Optimus 3D (aka P920) would be a better option due to having a more open source policy regarding the drivers?
I am having the same question as the OP of this thread. LG is giving 100 EUR mone back for buying this phone, which puts it at a very competitive price range.
I would like to ask if the P920 has:
1) Unlocked bootloader
2) Will it support ICS?
How is the battery life on it? I have an HD2 running NAND Android and I would like to know if it would be as good, better or worst in your opinion. (I understand it has to do with the way we use it, but for normal use (some phone calls, sms, music and light web surfing).
Thank you all for your help.
Johev said:
@Beriaru
Can I conclude from your post above that the Optimus 3D (aka P920) would be a better option due to having a more open source policy regarding the drivers?
I am having the same question as the OP of this thread. LG is giving 100 EUR mone back for buying this phone, which puts it at a very competitive price range.
I would like to ask if the P920 has:
1) Unlocked bootloader
2) Will it support ICS?
How is the battery life on it? I have an HD2 running NAND Android and I would like to know if it would be as good, better or worst in your opinion. (I understand it has to do with the way we use it, but for normal use (some phone calls, sms, music and light web surfing).
Thank you all for your help.
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Good man, another one who came from the HD2 side! I also had an HD2 and was heavy into flashing and playing with it, running Android NAND most of the time, GB 2.3.7 so I think my opinion here is about the most accurate you might get.
If I use my O3D the same as I did the HD2 it would last pretty much the same, with light web surfing, chatting most of the day, a few phone call here and there. The HD2 had a much longer standby time though due to the ROM I was using having a 6ma draw when Idle. The optimus is not quite there yet.
So comparing the upgrade in hardware with a very slighly less battery life, I'd say the optimus sticks to the HD2 pretty well (battery life wise)
Here, have a look at the state of development of CM9 for O3D and O2X:
https://plus.google.com/115049428938715274412/posts/KycR8ZjeUiS
Thanks Willievi (+1) for that information. I am getting 4mah wit my current HD2 ROM, so I am quite pleased with that. I think that once this phone gets gingerbread and hopefully ICS the battery life (at least in standby) should be improved considerably.
Do you find it in any way slow, or are you reasonably happy with it?
@Beriaru
Thank you very much for that link to googleplus. It is always nice to see a fellow Portuguese (at least the name suggests that), is working on this phone.
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Or wait and get a quadcore based phone next year
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LOLz
I think comunity goes for 2x because nVidia,but nVidia failed here .....
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I think comunity goes for 2x because nVidia,but nVidia failed here .....
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Too bad for nvidia... great chip, but closed source.
Hey guys, I might be hopping over to the $29 monthly WIND Mobile plan pretty soon, so I'm looking at the handsets they have and I pretty much narrowed it down to the G2X and the Nexus S. I'm currently using a Samsung Galaxy S GT-I9000 which is really similar to the Nexus S in terms of hardware, so I'm hoping that you folks could shed some light on some of the questions I have about WIND and the G2X
1. How are the custom ROMS for the G2X? I love being able to flash custom ROMS like MIUI and CM7, so I'm wondering if there are custom ROMS out there for the G2X that provides full functionality (ie. smooth video recording, etc)?
2. On my GT-I9000, 512 MB of RAM on 2.3.x Gingerbread seems to hinder the home screen smoothness and performance unless tweaks (scripts, LMK kernels, etc) are applied and even then, it's not always 100% smooth. Does the G2X suffer from the same issue?
3. Some of most impressive specs on paper for the G2X are the camera and the dual core processor, do they live up to the initial hype?
4. If anyone's has/had a Samsung Galaxy S GT-I9000 (and used the custom ROM or stock ROM with lag fix), how does the G2X compare with the SGS?
5. Are there any phone-specific precautions I should keep in mind when rooting/flashing this phone (eg. bootloader locks, etc)?
I'd appreciate any advice/input from owners of the G2X, thanks!
To answer some of your questions..
1. Eaglesblood,latest cm7 nightlies using faux latest cm ds kernel are BOSS! I am using latest 2.3.7 eaglesblood rom and everything just works perfect! I have tried miui roms and they are great also(thanks whitehawx for all the ports)
2. Compared to the i9000 the g2x smokes it even tho it has the same ammount of ram, let me just say this... i have 600+ apps/games and dont experience any lag whatsoever! No scripts needed!
3. Yes!
5. Just make sure you install lg drivers/ apx drivers first, install CWM thru tgagunmans excellent nvflash guide(never thru rom manager since it's a fake flash) Then just flash a rooted rom thru recovery, or you can also oneclick root. G2x doesnt have a bootloader like htc devices(wish it did tho because it would make flashing radio/baseband soo much easier compared to using lg's crappy software/kdz method).
Also..
Since the nexus s already has ICS it might also be an attractive option but since it seems your wanting input on g2x, once cm9 is publicly released for our phones it will be an even more amazing device since it is the OS our G2x's should have started with from the beginning(hw acceleration,multicore support, improved ui,etc)
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The camera software was changed in Gingerbread. There are a few options gone from the Froyo LG Cam. Also added more compression to the pics taken. Not as sharp and clear.
Wait until ICS is available fo the G2X then decide. If it's the G2X, buy a 2nd hand one, they,re a lot cheaper.
I love the phone but to be honest, the camera sucks ever since LG removed the new camera and the modded ones don't work the same. Not a problem for me though, I don't use it.
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Thanks for the input guys,
Is the stock firmware from LG really as bad as everyone says it is?
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Thanks for the input guys,
Is the stock firmware from LG really as bad as everyone says it is?
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It wasn't too bad on Wind mobile. But it's a lot more enjoyable once I rooted and upgraded to Gingerbread on EaglesBlood rom.
Hi everyone, I've an lg optimus 2x, but in the next 2 weeks I can get sensation with little money (after I sell my 2x).
Should I change to this htc?
I don't like speaker volume and quality and the poor ram of my 2x, do you think these are good reasons to come to your device?
how is the games compatibility? And custom roms? Cm7 and miui support? ICS update status? this smartphone works as it should? Or software isn't optimized for its hardware?
thanks for help and sorry for my bad english
Well, about the speaker, they are not as loud as other stuff in the market, but after using HTC UI, i dont like anyother android device's UI..... All the custom roms are available in the xda...you can see the other sub-forum of android development...you even have ICS ROMs available there....good luck
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Hi everyone, I've an lg optimus 2x, but in the next 2 weeks I can get sensation with little money (after I sell my 2x).
Should I change to this htc?
I don't like speaker volume and quality and the poor ram of my 2x, do you think these are good reasons to come to your device?
how is the games compatibility? And custom roms? Cm7 and miui support? ICS update status? this smartphone works as it should? Or software isn't optimized for its hardware?
thanks for help and sorry for my bad english
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Well the Sensation 'only' has 768MB RAM so it's not as much as a GS2 but it seems fine.
Games have mostly seemed fine running on ICS but there are a few with problems.
There's plenty of custom ROM's.
I haven't tried CM7 or MIUI so can't comment.
ICS is already pretty stable from a leaked HTC ROM.
So it'll probably be an improvement of the Optimus 2x (which I have used since my sister has one!) but I don't think it's a huge jump.
Hi everyone.. LG FanBoy here .. .
From Optimus One*previous* to Optimus Black *current* and now i eyeing to purchase a new phone again.. offcourse LG
i like to play games on my phone .. a lot of time actually..
can somebody help me choose a phone between optimus 3d and optimus 2x im really confused right now what to buy..
here in our country the price of Optimus 2X is $362 while Optimus 3D is $376 ~
any suggestions what to buy this mid of April?. .
If lg will ever fix the ghost calls buy a the 3D (its a bit faster) if not, buy the x2. If you want many custom roms etc buy the x2.
If you can wait a bit buy the x4
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3D...good deal for what u get..PEACE
read the ghost call thread for O3D and any issue for X2. Decide which one is lesser of an evil. I would not recommend o3d. Today in crisis situation of my car breaking down the phone kept freezing, had to restart it many times. Most times its fine but i guess under pressure it breaks down. Luckily had my old N900 with me which helped me make calls.
N900 rult so sad that mine is broken. Loved that phone
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2x is better phone, shame it has got only 4 inch display, 4,3 would be better for games.
There are all kinds of roms for 2x.
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2x is better phone, shame it has got only 4 inch display, 4,3 would be better for games.
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Actually the O3D is usually slightly ahead 2X in most of the benchmarks when stock ROMs are considered.
Get O3D if you want to play games in 3D. Or get O3D Max for extra RAM even current RAM is enough imo.
Are you mad ? After all the software/hardware problems that both of those phones have you even consider spending any money on one of them ? If you gonna "buy/ put your money" on any phone, get something that works,keep youself away from LG phones. If you gonna get it for "free", get O3D but don't forget that this phone can't receive calls or text messages.
Like ThiaiZ said, buy neither of those.
Maybe, and I underline maybe, the Ghost calls issue is solved, and then we will have a phone nearly bug free, 9 months after its release date.
We were all beta testers for LG so far.
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Actually the O3D is usually slightly ahead 2X in most of the benchmarks when stock ROMs are considered.
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And what do you want to do with these benchmark results? Make a poster with it? And I'm saying that o2x have all kinds of roms, and cm9 port.
It also don't have ghost calls.
But better buy htc sensation, evo3d, or Atrix.
But o2x is quite good option and less problematic than o3d, which is really annoying. I was torn the same way, wanted bigger screen. Now i want a phone that is easier for developers (o3d is a nightmare) to have aosp. Don't make mistake, don't buy 3d crap from lg. Every other phone is better, unless you want to stick with stock roms with ghost calls.
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And what do you want to do with these benchmark results? Make a poster with it? And I'm saying that o2x have all kinds of roms, and cm9 port.
It also don't have ghost calls.
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Hold your horses. I said about stock roms, i.e., how the phones function just out of the box.
It's a well known fact that few of the average users root their phones and even fewer install custom roms. Most don't even install the official rom updates. You would be amazed how many average users keep their phones, for example, with the original Eclair even if there is an official Froyo or Gingerbread update.
As for the OP, I will suggest to get another non-LG phone. But if you want to decide solely between the O3D and the 2X, I would suggest to get the O3D if he wants to keep everything stock. Larger screen, a little faster and absolutely the best 3D than any other 3D phone/device. And better keep the stock Froyo at the moment if he doesn't want any ghost call.
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Are you mad ? After all the software/hardware problems that both of those phones have you even consider spending any money on one of them ? If you gonna "buy/ put your money" on any phone, get something that works,keep youself away from LG phones. If you gonna get it for "free", get O3D but don't forget that this phone can't receive calls or text messages.
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Hahaha wtf your rom is great i havent had any problem with ghost calls or anything Thiaiz your roms are so great , this issue with ghosts calls maybr a carrier issue rather than the rom or phone issue I used my country rom(Mexico) with no oroblem 21a flashed since 2.5 to 2.7.1 just a few minutes ago and no ghost calls at all.
So I would recomend o3D or. O3D-Max because of the ram
By the way thx again for your work Thiaiz.
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Hold your horses. I said about stock roms, i.e., how the phones function just out of the box.
It's a well known fact that few of the average users root their phones and even fewer install custom roms. Most don't even install the official rom updates. You would be amazed how many average users keep their phones, for example, with the original Eclair even if there is an official Froyo or Gingerbread update.
As for the OP, I will suggest to get another non-LG phone. But if you want to decide solely between the O3D and the 2X, I would suggest to get the O3D if he wants to keep everything stock. Larger screen, a little faster and absolutely the best 3D than any other 3D phone/device. And better keep the stock Froyo at the moment if he doesn't want any ghost call.
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On stock both lg are crappy as hell, on o3d full hd recording is choppy. Benchmarks are artificial, don't rely on them. Only if you want compare gpu maybe. Lg o3d has only bigger screen. On stock it lags and hangs, sometimes phone don't responds when playing demanding game.
On stock i would recommend SE neo, Arc, htc sensation, Motorola atrix.
here in our country i asked a couple of folks using O3D and they said that they dont have that kind of ghost call issue.. . i think the problem came from your carrier~
i will surely install custom rom whatever phone i will get.. AFAIK O2X has a lot more great custom roms as of the moment.. but the reason why im considering O3D is for watching 3D anytime & anywhere i want.. .
with regards to HTV Evo i'd rather choose the O3D which is way cheaper than HTC and much better screen display too.. . im not into video recording too so 1080p problem with O3D is no big deal for me..
any other problems on stock rom that O3D has? please share it to this thread.. .
For me it has too little ram, or bad ram management. Eg. I was playing some games like shadowgun and the game becames laggy, and the phone stops responding and becomes hot. After couple of minutes reboot.
Also i was installing and uninstalling many apps after some time of usage stock ROM becomes very slow..
I don't have ghost call either, maybe 2 times. But many ppl around the world are complaining.
For me its a good phone, too little ram is a serious issue sometimes thou.
But there is NO ROM from aosp that can be used as a daily ROM. Only buggy cm7. The rest are stock tweaked roms. They are very good but not as fast as custom aosp ROM can be.
For me 2 huge disadvantages: ram, and no roms from aosp, miui, cm7, whatever. This phone is horrible for developers, even for CM TEAM
oyanezg said:
Hahaha wtf your rom is great i havent had any problem with ghost calls or anything Thiaiz your roms are so great , this issue with ghosts calls maybr a carrier issue rather than the rom or phone issue I used my country rom(Mexico) with no oroblem 21a flashed since 2.5 to 2.7.1 just a few minutes ago and no ghost calls at all.
So I would recomend o3D or. O3D-Max because of the ram
By the way thx again for your work Thiaiz.
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Same here, never get any problem with ghost call at all since the beginning even with any custom ROM.
Do NOT buy this phone. It can't receive calls or sms messages on certain times, which we never know when it happens or how long it will last (ghost calls).
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i guess all depends of the money you are about to spent
and the difference of the price for 2x and 3d
i own an optimus 3d buy now i am fully ok with this one
its weak point is on 3d pictures taken on Night
or in a room with no good light
but 2d pics even on night are very good with its flash
both of them are good phones but i would prefer the 3d because only for 3d
you can choose clasic pics or 3d pics
I m satisfied,my 3d with thiaz rom work smooth and stable. I know that there s poor support:
But i don t change rom every day,and 3d support is so amazing
Hey everyone,
i have an offer to change from SE x10 mini pro to LG P500 and i dont know if its worth it.
I have seen that LG P500 has 2.3 gingerbead update, how is it? aswel i heard it fixes the lag encountered in 2.2 version. Is it true that it fixes? how is overal the performance?
this is SE x10 mini pro http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_xperia_x10_mini_pro-3147.php
Best On Budget
newestuser said:
Hey everyone,
i have an offer to change from SE x10 mini pro to LG P500 and i dont know if its worth it.
I have seen that LG P500 has 2.3 gingerbead update, how is it? aswel i heard it fixes the lag encountered in 2.2 version. Is it true that it fixes? how is overal the performance?
this is SE x10 mini pro http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_xperia_x10_mini_pro-3147.php
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O1 is old Model
If you were on Budget within 12,000 best to buy Samsung Galaxy ace.
If you were on Budget above 12,000 best to buy SE xperia mini pro follow below link.
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_xperia_mini_pro-3713.php
I say go for Lg p500 if you don't use camera that much else stick with mini pro!!
what about the lags ive heard that are on 2.2 ?
im not a camera man, for that i have camera
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what about the lags ive heard that are on 2.2 ?
im not a camera man, for that i have camera
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The lag is present on both 2.2. and 2.3(don't known about 4.x...), it's caused when you touch the screen, causing it to use 100% of cpu power, it's very noticeable when playing games.But we have wonderfull kernel developers that fixed it!(btw you would need to be a root user...)
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are there no official fixes?
i red somewhere that in 2.3 official firmware this was fixed.
No, thats what I was trying to say, official(2.2 and 2.3) with default kernel lags, but if you flash another kernel(non officiall of course) with a modified touchscreen driver it won't lag.All up to date kernel have touchfix
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The two phones are very similar, going to the p500 really wouldn't be much of an upgrade at all. I would personally recommend installing cyanogenmod on your current phone as it would run just as well if not better than the p500. Our phone is very old and has been eol for a while. The only advantage it has over yours is the battery, which is much bigger. If it's a free upgrade and you'll never be offered anything else ever again (it isn't some kind of points system with your carrier or something like that), or if your xperia is dying (battery won't hold a charge anymore etc) otherwise just save your money because they're very similar phones.
matrixrak said:
O1 is old Model
If you were on Budget within 12,000 best to buy Samsung Galaxy ace.
If you were on Budget above 12,000 best to buy SE xperia mini pro follow below link.
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_xperia_mini_pro-3713.php
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no
get an armv7 phone now
FPChaim thanks
bluespoon4 its not an upgrade, its just like exchange. LG has a bigger screen and more ram plus official stock 2.3 firmware.
I tried few firmwares on x10 mini pro, honestly it doesnt beat stock rom and its stability...
Well i will pick up the phone tomorrow just for few days to test it and gonna see how it works (its aswel with fixed screen lag, but only 2.2 froyo)
Is there a link how to flash new kernel? does it require to unlock the bootloader?
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FPChaim thanks
bluespoon4 its not an upgrade, its just like exchange. LG has a bigger screen and more ram plus official stock 2.3 firmware.
I tried few firmwares on x10 mini pro, honestly it doesnt beat stock rom and its stability...
Well i will pick up the phone tomorrow just for few days to test it and gonna see how it works (its aswel with fixed screen lag, but only 2.2 froyo)
Is there a link how to flash new kernel? does it require to unlock the bootloader?
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i guess your phone is rooted or so....if not then pls atleast root your phone first... ... then to flash a kernel just install a recovery(links for them are also there... jus use search..) ...and download the kernel zip n flash......:fingers-crossed:
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FPChaim thanks
bluespoon4 its not an upgrade, its just like exchange. LG has a bigger screen and more ram plus official stock 2.3 firmware.
I tried few firmwares on x10 mini pro, honestly it doesnt beat stock rom and its stability...
Well i will pick up the phone tomorrow just for few days to test it and gonna see how it works (its aswel with fixed screen lag, but only 2.2 froyo)
Is there a link how to flash new kernel? does it require to unlock the bootloader?
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bootloader isn't locked
you flash new kernals the same way as roms
you go to recovery. install from sd, choose zip, clear cache, clear dalvik cache you are done
just try to smooth talk with the carrier guy to give you another device
I really suggest you upgrade to a newer phone, preferably one with atleast a one ghz processor because our phone is nearing death
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The two phones are very similar, going to the p500 really wouldn't be much of an upgrade at all. I would personally recommend installing cyanogenmod on your current phone as it would run just as well if not better than the p500. Our phone is very old and has been eol for a while. The only advantage it has over yours is the battery, which is much bigger. If it's a free upgrade and you'll never be offered anything else ever again (it isn't some kind of points system with your carrier or something like that), or if your xperia is dying (battery won't hold a charge anymore etc) otherwise just save your money because they're very similar phones.
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bootloader isn't locked
you flash new kernals the same way as roms
you go to recovery. install from sd, choose zip, clear cache, clear dalvik cache you are done
just try to smooth talk with the carrier guy to give you another device
I really suggest you upgrade to a newer phone, preferably one with atleast a one ghz processor because our phone is nearing death
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thanks
but why to get newer phone if i dont want to spend any money?
its a change with a friend not a carrier his phone is good condition so why not if i want a bigger screen and newer version of android (stable) and not going to spend money on new phone in upcoming year
newestuser said:
thanks
but why to get newer phone if i dont want to spend any money?
its a change with a friend not a carrier his phone is good condition so why not if i want a bigger screen and newer version of android (stable) and not going to spend money on new phone in upcoming year
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yeah. but if you get this phone, thendevelopment will be limited. half of everyone won't have an optimus one by december
lets face it, this phone has no future.
optimus one is defenitlybetter than the xperia x10 mini but both of these devices will be truly xda obselete by the end of this year
Edit: its ok. the world is going to end on Dec 22.
well yeah both will be obselete here, so if to choose from one better i think its not a bad choise LOL
newestuser said:
well yeah both will be obselete here, so if to choose from one better i think its not a bad choise LOL
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Go for O1 I always want to shift to a new phone but this O1 is always enough for me
If u don't want to spend money, then go ahead.
There are so many smooth ROMs and kernals with stunning performance.
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for me yes its worth it to get a Lg P500. :good:
ok so i have p500 for 3rd day and honestly, despite the fact that lg has better screen,more stable newer android, it doesnt fit if you text alot, No change.
LG p500 rocksss!
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