Torn : Optimus 3D or Optimus 2X ~ - LG Optimus 3D

Hi everyone.. LG FanBoy here .. .
From Optimus One*previous* to Optimus Black *current* and now i eyeing to purchase a new phone again.. offcourse LG
i like to play games on my phone .. a lot of time actually..
can somebody help me choose a phone between optimus 3d and optimus 2x im really confused right now what to buy..
here in our country the price of Optimus 2X is $362 while Optimus 3D is $376 ~
any suggestions what to buy this mid of April?. .

If lg will ever fix the ghost calls buy a the 3D (its a bit faster) if not, buy the x2. If you want many custom roms etc buy the x2.
If you can wait a bit buy the x4
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3D...good deal for what u get..PEACE

read the ghost call thread for O3D and any issue for X2. Decide which one is lesser of an evil. I would not recommend o3d. Today in crisis situation of my car breaking down the phone kept freezing, had to restart it many times. Most times its fine but i guess under pressure it breaks down. Luckily had my old N900 with me which helped me make calls.

N900 rult so sad that mine is broken. Loved that phone
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2x is better phone, shame it has got only 4 inch display, 4,3 would be better for games.
There are all kinds of roms for 2x.

IFLPI said:
2x is better phone, shame it has got only 4 inch display, 4,3 would be better for games.
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Actually the O3D is usually slightly ahead 2X in most of the benchmarks when stock ROMs are considered.

Get O3D if you want to play games in 3D. Or get O3D Max for extra RAM even current RAM is enough imo.

Are you mad ? After all the software/hardware problems that both of those phones have you even consider spending any money on one of them ? If you gonna "buy/ put your money" on any phone, get something that works,keep youself away from LG phones. If you gonna get it for "free", get O3D but don't forget that this phone can't receive calls or text messages.

Like ThiaiZ said, buy neither of those.
Maybe, and I underline maybe, the Ghost calls issue is solved, and then we will have a phone nearly bug free, 9 months after its release date.
We were all beta testers for LG so far.

botson71 said:
Actually the O3D is usually slightly ahead 2X in most of the benchmarks when stock ROMs are considered.
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And what do you want to do with these benchmark results? Make a poster with it? And I'm saying that o2x have all kinds of roms, and cm9 port.
It also don't have ghost calls.
But better buy htc sensation, evo3d, or Atrix.
But o2x is quite good option and less problematic than o3d, which is really annoying. I was torn the same way, wanted bigger screen. Now i want a phone that is easier for developers (o3d is a nightmare) to have aosp. Don't make mistake, don't buy 3d crap from lg. Every other phone is better, unless you want to stick with stock roms with ghost calls.

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And what do you want to do with these benchmark results? Make a poster with it? And I'm saying that o2x have all kinds of roms, and cm9 port.
It also don't have ghost calls.
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Hold your horses. I said about stock roms, i.e., how the phones function just out of the box.
It's a well known fact that few of the average users root their phones and even fewer install custom roms. Most don't even install the official rom updates. You would be amazed how many average users keep their phones, for example, with the original Eclair even if there is an official Froyo or Gingerbread update.
As for the OP, I will suggest to get another non-LG phone. But if you want to decide solely between the O3D and the 2X, I would suggest to get the O3D if he wants to keep everything stock. Larger screen, a little faster and absolutely the best 3D than any other 3D phone/device. And better keep the stock Froyo at the moment if he doesn't want any ghost call.

ThiaiZ said:
Are you mad ? After all the software/hardware problems that both of those phones have you even consider spending any money on one of them ? If you gonna "buy/ put your money" on any phone, get something that works,keep youself away from LG phones. If you gonna get it for "free", get O3D but don't forget that this phone can't receive calls or text messages.
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Hahaha wtf your rom is great i havent had any problem with ghost calls or anything Thiaiz your roms are so great , this issue with ghosts calls maybr a carrier issue rather than the rom or phone issue I used my country rom(Mexico) with no oroblem 21a flashed since 2.5 to 2.7.1 just a few minutes ago and no ghost calls at all.
So I would recomend o3D or. O3D-Max because of the ram
By the way thx again for your work Thiaiz.
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botson71 said:
Hold your horses. I said about stock roms, i.e., how the phones function just out of the box.
It's a well known fact that few of the average users root their phones and even fewer install custom roms. Most don't even install the official rom updates. You would be amazed how many average users keep their phones, for example, with the original Eclair even if there is an official Froyo or Gingerbread update.
As for the OP, I will suggest to get another non-LG phone. But if you want to decide solely between the O3D and the 2X, I would suggest to get the O3D if he wants to keep everything stock. Larger screen, a little faster and absolutely the best 3D than any other 3D phone/device. And better keep the stock Froyo at the moment if he doesn't want any ghost call.
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On stock both lg are crappy as hell, on o3d full hd recording is choppy. Benchmarks are artificial, don't rely on them. Only if you want compare gpu maybe. Lg o3d has only bigger screen. On stock it lags and hangs, sometimes phone don't responds when playing demanding game.
On stock i would recommend SE neo, Arc, htc sensation, Motorola atrix.

here in our country i asked a couple of folks using O3D and they said that they dont have that kind of ghost call issue.. . i think the problem came from your carrier~
i will surely install custom rom whatever phone i will get.. AFAIK O2X has a lot more great custom roms as of the moment.. but the reason why im considering O3D is for watching 3D anytime & anywhere i want.. .
with regards to HTV Evo i'd rather choose the O3D which is way cheaper than HTC and much better screen display too.. . im not into video recording too so 1080p problem with O3D is no big deal for me..
any other problems on stock rom that O3D has? please share it to this thread.. .

For me it has too little ram, or bad ram management. Eg. I was playing some games like shadowgun and the game becames laggy, and the phone stops responding and becomes hot. After couple of minutes reboot.
Also i was installing and uninstalling many apps after some time of usage stock ROM becomes very slow..
I don't have ghost call either, maybe 2 times. But many ppl around the world are complaining.
For me its a good phone, too little ram is a serious issue sometimes thou.
But there is NO ROM from aosp that can be used as a daily ROM. Only buggy cm7. The rest are stock tweaked roms. They are very good but not as fast as custom aosp ROM can be.
For me 2 huge disadvantages: ram, and no roms from aosp, miui, cm7, whatever. This phone is horrible for developers, even for CM TEAM

oyanezg said:
Hahaha wtf your rom is great i havent had any problem with ghost calls or anything Thiaiz your roms are so great , this issue with ghosts calls maybr a carrier issue rather than the rom or phone issue I used my country rom(Mexico) with no oroblem 21a flashed since 2.5 to 2.7.1 just a few minutes ago and no ghost calls at all.
So I would recomend o3D or. O3D-Max because of the ram
By the way thx again for your work Thiaiz.
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Same here, never get any problem with ghost call at all since the beginning even with any custom ROM.

Do NOT buy this phone. It can't receive calls or sms messages on certain times, which we never know when it happens or how long it will last (ghost calls).
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i guess all depends of the money you are about to spent
and the difference of the price for 2x and 3d
i own an optimus 3d buy now i am fully ok with this one
its weak point is on 3d pictures taken on Night
or in a room with no good light
but 2d pics even on night are very good with its flash
both of them are good phones but i would prefer the 3d because only for 3d
you can choose clasic pics or 3d pics

I m satisfied,my 3d with thiaz rom work smooth and stable. I know that there s poor support:
But i don t change rom every day,and 3d support is so amazing

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LG P920 3D ili P990 2x?

hi,
What is better choice 3d or 2x? or where is better support....
lets see what ppl say about this....
2x has a bigger community, much more roms to choose from and is generally better supported. If you don't need 3D and you can live with a smaller screen and slightly lower performance you can buy 2x a fair bit cheaper than O3D. Also, LG confirmed that 2x will receive official ICS.
I think LG made the same commitment for the O3D regarding Ice Cream Sandwich, so that's no issue
I agree with the rest of your post though, if you want the latest and fastest and are interested in playing and recording 3D content, get the O3D. Otherwise, get the 2X which is cheaper and more supported by third parties, though I hope that with the update to Gingerbread starting to roll out more parties will be interested to make roms for the O3D.
Or wait and get a quadcore based phone next year
Besides hardware and specs... its a question of do you want your cake now or later? 2x has more roms and stuff but look at how much the O3D and Thrill forums are blowing up. Things are coming along here and soon we will have just as much as everyone else. Also I think most of the roms for this phone are pretty well put together. You might have a lot more rom choices right now on another phone but how many of them are even worth flashing? O3D and Thrill are just getting off the ground and have some pretty new tech in them and we already have a good amount of roms and now kernels are being brought out. We are going to be one of the first to get CM9 and once everything for this phone is figured out I am sure it will blow the 2x and many other phones away.
...fighting ninjas at night, talkin' about this and that.
Urabewe said:
Besides hardware and specs... its a question of do you want your cake now or later? 2x has more roms and stuff but look at how much the O3D and Thrill forums are blowing up. Things are coming along here and soon we will have just as much as everyone else. Also I think most of the roms for this phone are pretty well put together. You might have a lot more rom choices right now on another phone but how many of them are even worth flashing? O3D and Thrill are just getting off the ground and have some pretty new tech in them and we already have a good amount of roms and now kernels are being brought out. We are going to be one of the first to get CM9 and once everything for this phone is figured out I am sure it will blow the 2x and many other phones away.
...fighting ninjas at night, talkin' about this and that.
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Well spoken.
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Optimus 2X has the Harmony Tegra2 Chipset.
There's NO support whatsoever from NVIDIA for that chipset.
There's NO open source drivers for that chipset.
There's serious doubts about the possibility of implementing ICS on Harmony without the binary blob from NVIDIA.
On the other hand, TI releases all their code for the OMAP platform.
It's an ideological reason, but for me (and for the medium/long-term implications) I choose the open option.
@Beriaru
Can I conclude from your post above that the Optimus 3D (aka P920) would be a better option due to having a more open source policy regarding the drivers?
I am having the same question as the OP of this thread. LG is giving 100 EUR mone back for buying this phone, which puts it at a very competitive price range.
I would like to ask if the P920 has:
1) Unlocked bootloader
2) Will it support ICS?
How is the battery life on it? I have an HD2 running NAND Android and I would like to know if it would be as good, better or worst in your opinion. (I understand it has to do with the way we use it, but for normal use (some phone calls, sms, music and light web surfing).
Thank you all for your help.
Johev said:
@Beriaru
Can I conclude from your post above that the Optimus 3D (aka P920) would be a better option due to having a more open source policy regarding the drivers?
I am having the same question as the OP of this thread. LG is giving 100 EUR mone back for buying this phone, which puts it at a very competitive price range.
I would like to ask if the P920 has:
1) Unlocked bootloader
2) Will it support ICS?
How is the battery life on it? I have an HD2 running NAND Android and I would like to know if it would be as good, better or worst in your opinion. (I understand it has to do with the way we use it, but for normal use (some phone calls, sms, music and light web surfing).
Thank you all for your help.
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Good man, another one who came from the HD2 side! I also had an HD2 and was heavy into flashing and playing with it, running Android NAND most of the time, GB 2.3.7 so I think my opinion here is about the most accurate you might get.
If I use my O3D the same as I did the HD2 it would last pretty much the same, with light web surfing, chatting most of the day, a few phone call here and there. The HD2 had a much longer standby time though due to the ROM I was using having a 6ma draw when Idle. The optimus is not quite there yet.
So comparing the upgrade in hardware with a very slighly less battery life, I'd say the optimus sticks to the HD2 pretty well (battery life wise)
Here, have a look at the state of development of CM9 for O3D and O2X:
https://plus.google.com/115049428938715274412/posts/KycR8ZjeUiS
Thanks Willievi (+1) for that information. I am getting 4mah wit my current HD2 ROM, so I am quite pleased with that. I think that once this phone gets gingerbread and hopefully ICS the battery life (at least in standby) should be improved considerably.
Do you find it in any way slow, or are you reasonably happy with it?
@Beriaru
Thank you very much for that link to googleplus. It is always nice to see a fellow Portuguese (at least the name suggests that), is working on this phone.
bioweb said:
Or wait and get a quadcore based phone next year
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LOLz
I think comunity goes for 2x because nVidia,but nVidia failed here .....
Shoqovi said:
LOLz
I think comunity goes for 2x because nVidia,but nVidia failed here .....
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Too bad for nvidia... great chip, but closed source.

[Q] Is the O3D Dead????

I have had this phone for a week and can say i love the idea of 3d but so far roms (no disrespect to devs) have been really poor. phone doesnt come close to the Samsung S2 and HTC sensation XE which i both have.
Am i doing something wrong with O3D or can you guys recommend me a rom to flash.
iv had loads of htc smartphones and samsung but first lg and feel abit lost seems like this forumn is dormant.
chwads2k8 said:
I have had this phone for a week and can say i love the idea of 3d but so far roms (no disrespect to devs) have been really poor. phone doesnt come close to the Samsung S2 and HTC sensation XE which i both have.
Am i doing something wrong with O3D or can you guys recommend me a rom to flash.
iv had loads of htc smartphones and samsung but first lg and feel abit lost seems like this forumn is dormant.
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Hi5 for that..I thought more would come from the development community but nothing..they say LG files are hard to deal with..overallisappointed
Well, the Optimus 3D is not the most popular phone by LG. The Optimus Speed is much more commonly used by people.
I recently switched from the Speed to the 3D (exchanged by LG) and must say that I kind of expected the same variety in Roms as with my previously stated phones, right as you noticed, too. Currently there aren't that much devs on the O3D. But nevertheless they are doing a great job. Just try out the Roms and look which you like most. Currently I am using Thiaizos Rom and I must say I like it the most atm.
I think most people are just a little afraid of the 3D-technics in this phone and do not know if its good or not. And if you do not want the 3D, there are definatley better phones available right know (Mostly related to form factor, not hardware itself).
Additionaly LG is not the most famous smartphone producer...
Fusel Wusel said:
Well, the Optimus 3D is not the most popular phone by LG. The Optimus Speed is much more commonly used by people.
I recently switched from the Speed to the 3D (exchanged by LG) and must say that I kind of expected the same variety in Roms as with my previously stated phones, right as you noticed, too. Currently there aren't that much devs on the O3D. But nevertheless they are doing a great job. Just try out the Roms and look which you like most. Currently I am using Thiaizos Rom and I must say I like it the most atm.
I think most people are just a little afraid of the 3D-technics in this phone and do not know if its good or not. And if you do not want the 3D, there are definatley better phones available right know (Mostly related to form factor, not hardware itself).
Additionaly LG is not the most famous smartphone producer...
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totally right,but I thought due to the 3D thing it would get more popularity,I think the hardware is really great and I compared it to the S2 and minor inferiority found,but still we wish more costume ROMS may support our phone cause I think it deserves such nice device,thanks anyway
omarfaieq007 said:
totally right,but I thought due to the 3D thing it would get more popularity,I think the hardware is really great and I compared it to the S2 and minor inferiority found,but still we wish more costume ROMS may support our phone cause I think it deserves such nice device,thanks anyway
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The S2 is one of the if not the best android or phone out there and iv had the iphone 4s lol my o3d s2 and sensation are better than that S2 is awesome tho. some of the mods are soo cool.
for this device id love cm7 with 3d
The 3d features make this phone unique and i love it think the 3d games and vids are awesome.
i guess in the end ICS is coming out so hopefully will help our phone improve
What chance do ROM developers have if LG the hardware maker can not make a decent Gingerbread for this phone. I have personally went back to froyo after having freezing issues, Ghost calls and sms.
I got very close couple times to smashing this useless phone into pieces, I am reduced now to using my Iphone 4 again.
I agree with You guys. I had a S2 and it was great both with orig. firmware, miui and custom roms. Smooth as butter, and always working. Now I changed it for HTC Titan, and it also works great.
But O3D is another story.... Great idea, great hardware and ****ty software from the begining till now. GB is only marginaly faster but still buggy as hell.
I got info from the support that no GB updates are in the work for now. So we are stuck with v21a for qiute some time.
Also the devs are few and not very motivated (except Tiazo), and LG isn`t helping at all.
I realy don`t get it - it looks as if they are shooting themself in the foot???
I think this is my last LG ever! Even thou I have a great 2 year support from my cell phone network I`m goin to sell this stillborn pnone and get a deecent one. Even iPhone is better... lol
Got an unbranded new O3D yesterday, had the chance of selling it to a galaxy nexus, but what about 3D? Can I live without it again? No I cant. 3D is a way better function imo than SGS2's smoothness or even galaxy nexus's ICS. I owned SGS2 and own an ICS phone, both are amazing, I love ICS , but we r getting it sooner or later, but i repeat again, we have 3D and for me it is the best function so far in a smartphone.
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ThiaiZ said:
Got an unbranded new O3D yesterday, had the chance of selling it to a galaxy nexus, but what about 3D? Can I live without it again? No I cant. 3D is a way better function imo than SGS2's smoothness or even galaxy nexus's ICS. I owned SGS2 and own an ICS phone, both are amazing, I love ICS , but we r getting it sooner or later, but i repeat again, we have 3D and for me it is the best function so far in a smartphone.
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Well it's simple equation man,we are getting ICS and many tweaks and customizations for the O3D like S2 or Nexus(We have enough hardware features no one can deny)..but can those phones get the 3D feature in them?
Noooooooooo..so that's what makes the difference,3D is a revolution and I heard a piece of news saying Samsung is about to produce 3D supported phones..Meaning??=Teased!
all we need now is patience and trying to support each other until there are enough resources that no one can complain..PEACE
Well hopefully when Samsung release a 3d smartphone next year it will be a lot better than the Optimus 3d so we will finally have a good 3d smartphone that works properly.
dinoric81 said:
Well hopefully when Samsung release a 3d smartphone next year it will be a lot better than the Optimus 3d so we will finally have a good 3d smartphone that works properly.
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I don't understand all this complaining, my O3D has worked pretty much perfect from Day 1 using stock rom, we just received GB update and everything seems to be working fine for me...improved the camera and also released the 3D converter after launch, and LG promised an ICS upgrade too what more do you want.
This phone has better hardware and features than the Evo 3D and is only slightly behind the GSII in performance...looking forward to LG's next 3D phone I will be first in line.
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Got an unbranded new O3D yesterday, had the chance of selling it to a galaxy nexus, but what about 3D? Can I live without it again? No I cant. 3D is a way better function imo than SGS2's smoothness or even galaxy nexus's ICS. I owned SGS2 and own an ICS phone, both are amazing, I love ICS , but we r getting it sooner or later, but i repeat again, we have 3D and for me it is the best function so far in a smartphone.
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3D is indeed amazing but the Optimus 3d isn't the best phone to show it off. As the phone has had so many problems and LG seems to be forgetting the 2d side with bad 2d photo quality and only improving the 3d side doesn't help things.
Once more better 3d phones come out in the future which are better over all then phones functions then hopefully 3D smartphones will become more popular.
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I don't understand all this complaining, my O3D has worked pretty much perfect from Day 1 using stock rom, we just received GB update and everything seems to be working fine for me...improved the camera and also released the 3D converter after launch, and LG promised an ICS upgrade too what more do you want.
This phone has better hardware and features than the Evo 3D and is only slightly behind the GSII in performance...looking forward to LG's next 3D phone I will be first in line.
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LG didn't bother to improve 2d photo quality. They seem to have made it worse.
LG didn't bother to improve 2d photo quality. They seem to have made it worse.
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2D photos seem fine to me but I found that a replacement camera app, Camera Zoom FX, made it so much better so I guess the problem is the phones software rather than the hardware.
In regard to others making a better 3D phone, so far LG's 3D comes out best in reviews and so, as other manufacturers have yet to catch up, I would expect Optimus 3D 2 to be best 3D phone next year as well. But it better have 1 GB ram as even I have to admit 512 is not always enough recently.
Dave
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chwads2k8 said:
I have had this phone for a week and can say i love the idea of 3d but so far roms (no disrespect to devs) have been really poor. phone doesnt come close to the Samsung S2 and HTC sensation XE which i both have.
Am i doing something wrong with O3D or can you guys recommend me a rom to flash.
iv had loads of htc smartphones and samsung but first lg and feel abit lost seems like this forumn is dormant.
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I've been really enjoying the 3D functionality of this phone. I'm still on the stock ROM and haven't been worried about alternate ROMs. This phone runs really well.
I also own an HTC Sensation and I have owned a Samsung Galaxy S II.....but they don't do 3D and - for me - 3D is THE reason to buy an LG Optimus 3D phone.
I've had a play with the HTC Evo 3D...and the 3D display on the Evo just isn't as good as the display on the Optimus 3D.
I'm looking forward to the official firmware upgrade. I only install alternate ROMs if that actually ADD value to the device. I've had my fill of broken Franken-ROMs that eat my time.
Rastko said:
I agree with You guys. I had a S2 and it was great both with orig. firmware, miui and custom roms. Smooth as butter, and always working. Now I changed it for HTC Titan, and it also works great.
But O3D is another story.... Great idea, great hardware and ****ty software from the begining till now. GB is only marginaly faster but still buggy as hell.
I got info from the support that no GB updates are in the work for now. So we are stuck with v21a for qiute some time.
Also the devs are few and not very motivated (except Tiazo), and LG isn`t helping at all.
I realy don`t get it - it looks as if they are shooting themself in the foot???
I think this is my last LG ever! Even thou I have a great 2 year support from my cell phone network I`m goin to sell this stillborn pnone and get a deecent one. Even iPhone is better... lol
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i agree... LG just ****ed it up.
i bought the SGS2 and it's great
A 3d phone but it can't download 3d games from lg smart world 2.3 gb not supported.thanks lg ?
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feckineck said:
A 3d phone but it can't download 3d games from lg smart world 2.3 gb not supported.thanks lg ?
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Its because LG is too slow with everything. Worse company so far between the mobile world big companies. In Sweden unbranded O3Ds has not gotten official GB still.
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goodbye optimus 3d :)

iam selling my optimus 3d today and getting a galaxy note...O3d is a great phone but i really dont like what LG people are doing to it..they released it as the worlds first 3d phone but they dont care about customers AFAIK..The gingerbread release in the beginning was stable but recently so many reboots associated with wifi and problems with bluetooth a2dp, the 2d camera being very very bad and then dont even have any updates planned for GB yet....my humble suggestion for LG is...only manufacture phones if u are really going to support it otherwise i dont see a point even if they make a 8core phone with a 10" display which has bad optimized software..
I loved this community very much i loved every rom of thiaiz..from the beginning i only used his roms they felt most stable for me...GOOD LUCK for everyone with O3D i hope LG realizes its mistakes and keep loyal customers like u satisfied
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iam selling my optimus 3d today and getting a galaxy note...O3d is a great phone but i really dont like what LG people are doing to it..they released it as the worlds first 3d phone but they dont care about customers AFAIK..The gingerbread release in the beginning was stable but recently so many reboots associated with wifi and problems with bluetooth a2dp, the 2d camera being very very bad and then dont even have any updates planned for GB yet....my humble suggestion for LG is...only manufacture phones if u are really going to support it otherwise i dont see a point even if they make a 8core phone with a 10" display which has bad optimized software..
I loved this community very much i loved every rom of thiaiz..from the beginning i only used his roms they felt most stable for me...GOOD LUCK for everyone with O3D i hope LG realizes its mistakes and keep loyal customers like u satisfied
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bb then mate. -1 users for our forums... have fun with your new phone
smackdownn said:
iam selling my optimus 3d today and getting a galaxy note...O3d is a great phone but i really dont like what LG people are doing to it..they released it as the worlds first 3d phone but they dont care about customers AFAIK..The gingerbread release in the beginning was stable but recently so many reboots associated with wifi and problems with bluetooth a2dp, the 2d camera being very very bad and then dont even have any updates planned for GB yet....my humble suggestion for LG is...only manufacture phones if u are really going to support it otherwise i dont see a point even if they make a 8core phone with a 10" display which has bad optimized software..
I loved this community very much i loved every rom of thiaiz..from the beginning i only used his roms they felt most stable for me...GOOD LUCK for everyone with O3D i hope LG realizes its mistakes and keep loyal customers like u satisfied
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Well, at least you don't leave us for an iPhone...
Seriously, it's disapointing? Yes, absolutely, but as long as no other 3D dual-core or quad-core with ICS appear, I´ll stay with this one. (Samsung, are you listening? )
Good luck,
smackdownn said:
iam selling my optimus 3d today and getting a galaxy note...O3d is a great phone but i really dont like what LG people are doing to it..they released it as the worlds first 3d phone but they dont care about customers AFAIK..The gingerbread release in the beginning was stable but recently so many reboots associated with wifi and problems with bluetooth a2dp, the 2d camera being very very bad and then dont even have any updates planned for GB yet....my humble suggestion for LG is...only manufacture phones if u are really going to support it otherwise i dont see a point even if they make a 8core phone with a 10" display which has bad optimized software..
I loved this community very much i loved every rom of thiaiz..from the beginning i only used his roms they felt most stable for me...GOOD LUCK for everyone with O3D i hope LG realizes its mistakes and keep loyal customers like u satisfied
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Sad to hear you are leaving man
I have come from using iphone4 (still have it as secondary), Nokia N900 (still have it as an mp3 player). To be honest O3D is the best phone i've used so far. It has it's quirks but after GB update and Acura's 1.6ROM o/cd' to 1.235Ghz, the phone feels fantastic. My home page has all the information from time/bat temp/cpu usage/cpu current speed/memory avail/internal mem avail/ext SD mem avail, current tasks running and few other widgets.
The bat runs about 1 day and a half without issues. The benchmarks are higher than the SIIgalaxy in CF bench.
LG announced ICS update for this phone as well so we can expect some good roms from the community.
YOu can go ahead and buy other phone but you will not get 3D games/movies or recording on it.
I also checked Galaxy note, looked amazing but slower than O3D in benchmark so what's the point. I can wait for another 6 months to get a quad core based phone then.
soon i will also sell O3D coz no zooming during video recording
sak500 said:
I have come from using iphone4 (still have it as secondary), Nokia N900 (still have it as an mp3 player). To be honest O3D is the best phone i've used so far. It has it's quirks but after GB update and Acura's 1.6ROM o/cd' to 1.235Ghz, the phone feels fantastic. My home page has all the information from time/bat temp/cpu usage/cpu current speed/memory avail/internal mem avail/ext SD mem avail, current tasks running and few other widgets.
The bat runs about 1 day and a half without issues. The benchmarks are higher than the SIIgalaxy in CF bench.
LG announced ICS update for this phone as well so we can expect some good roms from the community.
YOu can go ahead and buy other phone but you will not get 3D games/movies or recording on it.
I also checked Galaxy note, looked amazing but slower than O3D in benchmark so what's the point. I can wait for another 6 months to get a quad core based phone then.
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i tried to OC but my phone gets unstable and its having problems with signal after i updated to GB and ICS is coming but when?? more than 8 months from now..actually the main reason im getting note is because the camera of o3d is bad at 2d and i dont really have much need of 3d camera and recording except for showing off to friends because i dont own a 3dtv.And 3d gaming is just fine its not that breath taking and playing for long time in 3d is not good for eyes and it gives me headaches..so for me the 3d is only good for showing off the phone.. what i like about note is the camera, the screen, battery life and samsung updates are lot better than LG..and note has the highest benchmark after the transformer prime..the only thing which it lacks is the GPU benchmark because the resolution is too much..
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Sad to hear you are leaving man
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will miss ur roms buddy

[Q] So Everyone....Should I Buy The Optimus 3D After All?

hello everyone,
im planing on buying this phone the next two days...as i found a good deal on amazon(406$)
i want to buy it cuz the 3D videos(both shooting and Watching),and the 3D Games
also cuz it has Dual-Core(currently i have a motorola defy),and its GPU cuz i play HD games alot and i'd like them to be very smooth,
but now i don't know...its just many people say's the phone is not so good because of LG,and many people complaining about it....my only complaining about it that it doesn't have many roms cuz of the 3D framework(i guess)and its somewhat holding back the true performance of the phone(correct me if i am wrong)
i don't care about the ics...i just want my phone running gingerbread(ThiaiZ rom sound great...but i need arabic typing support...hopefully he'll accept my future request to add it ) stable and fast
also....if you guys do not recommend me to buy it...do you recommend anything else for the price tag....so far my only other options is the Atrix(which i like but i want 3D )and Optimus 2X
would really appreciate the help of the experts....really....cuz i don't want to buy a phone that i'll regret buying
finally(cuz i got only one opinion on this) in case i got Thrill 4G instead of the OPtimus 3D...can i use ThiaiZ rom....since i don't care about the 4G anyway cuz its not yet available in jordan[middle east])
Go for it man..recommend it..
ThiaZ Rom does support Arabic as well as all other Roms (LG adds arabic in all its firmwares, however, RTL support is just for Middle East versions).
LG's updates are good. Updates always brings something new. One update brought 3D game convertor, the other brought dolbey mobile, video stabilization, more bit rate in recording 3D videos, vivid color in pictures, enabling flash in 3D mode, enable shooting by 3D hard key, 21MB 3G speed, better battery life, smoothness, better RAM usage, and more. I mean, LG does a good job on updated. However, all other companies are faster than LG in updates. In addition, some updates bring some bugs with it. The current bug on GB update is the low bit rate in recording HD 2D videos and ghost calls problem (Appeared for few but not all).
For me, I bought this phone for 3D functionality. I don't regret buying it, and I am happy with it.
abo_mara7 said:
ThiaZ Rom does support Arabic as well as all other Roms (LG adds arabic in all its firmwares, however, RTL support is just for Middle East versions).
LG's updates are good. Updates always brings something new. One update brought 3D game convertor, the other brought dolbey mobile, video stabilization, more bit rate in recording 3D videos, vivid color in pictures, enabling flash in 3D mode, enable shooting by 3D hard key, 21MB 3G speed, better battery life, smoothness, better RAM usage, and more. I mean, LG does a good job on updated. However, all other companies are faster than LG in updates. In addition, some updates bring some bugs with it. The current bug on GB update is the low bit rate in recording HD 2D videos and ghost calls problem (Appeared for few but not all).
For me, I bought this phone for 3D functionality. I don't regret buying it, and I am happy with it.
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ok..so does these 2 problems exists in the ThiaZ rom...and does it support RTL?
cuz the phone im getting is probably gonna be the European version...so i need to add RTL support
and finally....do you think i can flash this rom on the unlocked at&t version of the phone
i know i ask too many questions!!!...but i really appreciate your help
Evil Slayer said:
hello everyone,
im planing on buying this phone the next two days...as i found a good deal on amazon(406$)
i want to buy it cuz the 3D videos(both shooting and Watching),and the 3D Games
also cuz it has Dual-Core(currently i have a motorola defy),and its GPU cuz i play HD games alot and i'd like them to be very smooth,
but now i don't know...its just many people say's the phone is not so good because of LG,and many people complaining about it....my only complaining about it that it doesn't have many roms cuz of the 3D framework(i guess)and its somewhat holding back the true performance of the phone(correct me if i am wrong)
i don't care about the ics...i just want my phone running gingerbread(ThiaiZ rom sound great...but i need arabic typing support...hopefully he'll accept my future request to add it ) stable and fast
also....if you guys do not recommend me to buy it...do you recommend anything else for the price tag....so far my only other options is the Atrix(which i like but i want 3D )and Optimus 2X
would really appreciate the help of the experts....really....cuz i don't want to buy a phone that i'll regret buying
finally(cuz i got only one opinion on this) in case i got Thrill 4G instead of the OPtimus 3D...can i use ThiaiZ rom....since i don't care about the 4G anyway cuz its not yet available in jordan[middle east])
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i suggest you only go for o3d if u are into 3d so much..or else LG will leave u disappointed..
NOOOO!!! running froyo in 2012, F*** LG!
as said before... Buy this phone only if you can't live without 3d. If you can........... Buy another phone. But first take a look at this forum which phone has the most active developers
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No updates sad sad. Other then that good phone.
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Still on froyo in canada so sad. GB NO WHERE.
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Don't buy it, it is crap, apart from the 3D the phone is useless. on the 3g reception alone the GS2 reception is 3 times better and not to mention the battery life. Besides LG is 6 - 9 month behind updates.
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What a bunch of whiners. This is a great phone. It's incredibly fast, the 3D is actually an addition instead of a worthless feature, runs games smoothly (even most Tegra2 games) and it had plenty of official updates so far (in a few months I went from V10c to V10d, V10k, V21a GB and now V21b GB) that can be flashed officially or through other methods if updates aren't released in your part of the world yet.
Sure, there aren't a lot of custom roms, mostly because of the 3D framework, but hey, if it works as it should then why bother? From what I understand ThiaiZ does a great job with his roms.
I've had no ghost calls, missed text messages, reception is great and download speeds on HDSPA and Wifi are very good. The GB update made the phone very snappy, no lag at all. Battery life is great for me on the latest GB rom (I only charge every other day, sometimes even less)
Sure, there are problems, but there will always be users that have problems with any brand. When reading forums like this it seems like there are a lot of problems but other than asking general questions what's there to post about if your phone works great?
bioweb said:
What a bunch of whiners. This is a great phone. It's incredibly fast, the 3D is actually an addition instead of a worthless feature, runs games smoothly (even most Tegra2 games) and it had plenty of official updates so far (in a few months I went from V10c to V10d, V10k, V21a GB and now V21b GB) that can be flashed officially or through other methods if updates aren't released in your part of the world yet.
Sure, there aren't a lot of custom roms, mostly because of the 3D framework, but hey, if it works as it should then why bother? From what I understand ThiaiZ does a great job with his roms.
I've had no ghost calls, missed text messages, reception is great and download speeds on HDSPA and Wifi are very good. The GB update made the phone very snappy, no lag at all. Battery life is great for me on the latest GB rom (I only charge every other day, sometimes even less)
Sure, there are problems, but there will always be users that have problems with any brand. When reading forums like this it seems like there are a lot of problems but other than asking general questions what's there to post about if your phone works great?
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Got an unbranded new O3D last week, had the chance to selling it and buying something else, why didnt I ? Because phone is just amazing. 3D is just great. The only problem is LG updates delay, something very very bad but that I stop to care about every time I watch a movie,youtube video or play games in 3D. We put like this:
Hardware excelent
Software could be better
Updates we got many nice ones but I hate the delays.
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Why do people complain about updates so much, if it's not broken what exactly do they need to update?
Amazing phone if you want 3D, highly recommended.
bioweb said:
What a bunch of whiners. This is a great phone. It's incredibly fast, the 3D is actually an addition instead of a worthless feature, runs games smoothly (even most Tegra2 games) and it had plenty of official updates so far (in a few months I went from V10c to V10d, V10k, V21a GB and now V21b GB) that can be flashed officially or through other methods if updates aren't released in your part of the world yet.
Sure, there aren't a lot of custom roms, mostly because of the 3D framework, but hey, if it works as it should then why bother? From what I understand ThiaiZ does a great job with his roms.
I've had no ghost calls, missed text messages, reception is great and download speeds on HDSPA and Wifi are very good. The GB update made the phone very snappy, no lag at all. Battery life is great for me on the latest GB rom (I only charge every other day, sometimes even less)
Sure, there are problems, but there will always be users that have problems with any brand. When reading forums like this it seems like there are a lot of problems but other than asking general questions what's there to post about if your phone works great?
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First and foremost I bought this O3D to use it as a phone, unless you live under a 3G tower this phone will not pick 3G just look at the pictures and see for your self both my phones are on Vodafone Australia.
so, if you want a 3D playing device go ahead an buy it, you want a real phone then stay away.
ok thanx everyone...really
im gonna buy it ...besides no better option for the price...and still beside everything i get the 3D feature ...and i don't care about the ICS like i said before...actually by the time the ICS comes from LG i'll be bored from the phone...then the upgrade will make my phone feel new by then and i'll fall in love with it all over again
Oh and btw...can anyone help me regarding if the ThiaZ rom supports RTL?(i know it has arabic...but still want to make sure of having RTL support)
V21b GB
bioweb said:
What a bunch of whiners. This is a great phone. It's incredibly fast, the 3D is actually an addition instead of a worthless feature, runs games smoothly (even most Tegra2 games) and it had plenty of official updates so far (in a few months I went from V10c to V10d, V10k, V21a GB and now V21b GB) that can be flashed officially or through other methods if updates aren't released in your part of the world yet.
Sure, there aren't a lot of custom roms, mostly because of the 3D framework, but hey, if it works as it should then why bother? From what I understand ThiaiZ does a great job with his roms.
I've had no ghost calls, missed text messages, reception is great and download speeds on HDSPA and Wifi are very good. The GB update made the phone very snappy, no lag at all. Battery life is great for me on the latest GB rom (I only charge every other day, sometimes even less)
Sure, there are problems, but there will always be users that have problems with any brand. When reading forums like this it seems like there are a lot of problems but other than asking general questions what's there to post about if your phone works great?
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how do i get V21b GB i have 21a
Evil Slayer said:
ok..so does these 2 problems exists in the ThiaZ rom...and does it support RTL?
cuz the phone im getting is probably gonna be the European version...so i need to add RTL support
and finally....do you think i can flash this rom on the unlocked at&t version of the phone
i know i ask too many questions!!!...but i really appreciate your help
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You are welcome
As I said, RTL is only available in Middle East versions, so the answer is no. If you want RTL support, you can flash v18a (First leaked GB 2.3.5), flash stock froyo v10D for middle east, or wait for official GB for middle east
The phone is not bad as some people says. Yes, LG is not fast in updating its devices, and yes, there are some bugs. However, that does not mean that the phone is crap!
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how do i get V21b GB i have 21a
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1412511
Only update if you don't need root access, it seems LG patched the zergRush exploit in this update.
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You are welcome
As I said, RTL is only available in Middle East versions, so the answer is no. If you want RTL support, you can flash v18a (First leaked GB 2.3.5), flash stock froyo v10D for middle east, or wait for official GB for middle east
The phone is not bad as some people says. Yes, LG is not fast in updating its devices, and yes, there are some bugs. However, that does not mean that the phone is crap!
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ok one last thing
can i flash the stock arabic froyo or early arabic gingerbread on a thrill 4G(you know...the us version)
most people here say you can flash optimus 3d roms on thrill but some few says no
If you are ok with long upgrade cycles, like the 3D feature and can cope with the fact that there are not so many actively developed roms, get the O3D.
Otherwise get something else. I think Galaxy S2 would be by far the most popular phone atm.

[Q] Best 3D phone: LG or HTC?

Hi everyone, I'm considering getting a new phone and I'd like a 3D one...
I'm considering either the HTC Evo 3D or the LG Optimus 3D and though I read a lot about each phone's specs I'd like to get some of you users opinions about their performance...
Considering that I like to constantly update the latest ROMs including CyanogenMod I wouold appreciate any advice you can give me regarding this LG and any pros cons you can think of...
Thanks in advance to everyone!
Have you even bothered to check the topics on this section?
Let me guide you to some:
70 page full of ghost call thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1475351&page=72
Endless ICS waiting thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1577017
Huawei is better than LG thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1609467
The issues thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1600521
The updater and all other LG tools sucks thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1423125
And please take your time and check for buggy ICS ROMs. Ooops. There are no ICS rom for Optimus 3D...
The only good thing? Optimus 3D's 3D capability is better than Evo 3D. But You can not use Optimus 3D as a phone LOL
Now leave us with our problems here and run away! Please run!
Every phine has their issues but i know of lits if people who prefer the lg iptimus 3d thsn evo
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kylana0 said:
Hi everyone, I'm considering getting a new phone and I'd like a 3D one...
I'm considering either the HTC Evo 3D or the LG Optimus 3D and though I read a lot about each phone's specs I'd like to get some of you users opinions about their performance...
Considering that I like to constantly update the latest ROMs including CyanogenMod I wouold appreciate any advice you can give me regarding this LG and any pros cons you can think of...
Thanks in advance to everyone!
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3D phone ... we dont even consider HTC a 3D phone. There are many better phones (non 3D) than O3D but not EVO 3D
Being 3D frame work not open custom development with 3D is not at the highest level and LG firmware have issues.
People are experimenting with firmware of 3Dmax which have basically the same hardware to work on our O3D. If successful you will be holding in your hands one sweet piece of technology.
kylana0 said:
Hi everyone, I'm considering getting a new phone and I'd like a 3D one...
I'm considering either the HTC Evo 3D or the LG Optimus 3D and though I read a lot about each phone's specs I'd like to get some of you users opinions about their performance...
Considering that I like to constantly update the latest ROMs including CyanogenMod I wouold appreciate any advice you can give me regarding this LG and any pros cons you can think of...
Thanks in advance to everyone!
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As cool_recep pointed out already lots of issues with LG's O3D. Good that you're doing research before buying that's what I do myself. But when the phone is just launched there isn't much information one can get. So i was suckered into buying Nokia N900 and recently O3D.
If i had waited few months like you have done, i wouldn't have made one of the biggest mistakes ever in my electronic purchases in 40 years, of buying this good piece of hardware but with the worst software support and bugs.
So a friendly advice wait just a few more weeks/months to see how the new 3Dmax is doing and if you really want a 3D phone buy it. I wouldn't ever suggest an LG phone ever. Even if it's the last company left making mobile phones i would just keep using my old phone instead of buying anything from LG. This company ignored the whole community of O3D owners for 4 months of constant complaining before even acknowledging that there was some prob like Ghost call on O3D.
Apart from ghost calls issue im happy with my O3D.
Sent from my LG P-920 using ghost call method...
For 3D capability alone, LG wins hands DOWN! HTCs was headache-inducing. If 3D isn't the primary purpose though, something else may be better.
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Stunningkun said:
3D phone ... we dont even consider HTC a 3D phone. There are many better phones (non 3D) than O3D but not EVO 3D
Being 3D frame work not open custom development with 3D is not at the highest level and LG firmware have issues.
People are experimenting with firmware of 3Dmax which have basically the same hardware to work on our O3D. If successful you will be holding in your hands one sweet piece of technology.
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First of all thanks to you and everyone else who so kindly replied to my thread!Your post made me very curious and interested but im confused regarding which phone you're referring to... I do apologise as i've only started to become interested and to get to know mobile development recently so sorry if its a dum question...
sak500 said:
As cool_recep pointed out already lots of issues with LG's O3D. Good that you're doing research before buying that's what I do myself. But when the phone is just launched there isn't much information one can get. So i was suckered into buying Nokia N900 and recently O3D.
If i had waited few months like you have done, i wouldn't have made one of the biggest mistakes ever in my electronic purchases in 40 years, of buying this good piece of hardware but with the worst software support and bugs.
So a friendly advice wait just a few more weeks/months to see how the new 3Dmax is doing and if you really want a 3D phone buy it. I wouldn't ever suggest an LG phone ever. Even if it's the last company left making mobile phones i would just keep using my old phone instead of buying anything from LG. This company ignored the whole community of O3D owners for 4 months of constant complaining before even acknowledging that there was some prob like Ghost call on O3D.
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Yeah I do know what you mean buut i also learnt from my mistakes... I've recently bought a samsung galaxy s plus without doing any research about it and i've got to say that i'm deeply dissapointed with the lack of software development available... Not even CM7, CM9 or Miui yet...
Though i appreciate the efforts of xda's devs who are trying to port it...
O3D is better than evo for sure!
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Answering only your title question "Best 3D phone: LG or HTC?", there is absolutely no doubt that the LG is by far the best on 3D.
The HTC 3D is a joke in comparison.
I've had a LG P920 since just after release date and have been disappointed until recently. My phone always used to restart at random times when it wasn't being used, performance is a little poor compared to other devices I've had and apps have a knack of either freezing or not working such as the camera. The amount of times I missed a photo opportunity because the stupid camera won't take a picture when I press the button to take a picture. This also causes a problem when I want to use the LED flash as a torch as sometimes the flash just won't turn on.
I went for the LG because it had a slightly better camera on it and as I wanted the phone primarily to take 3D photos and videos it was the better option (I regret it now). I've also found the LG lacks 3D content on it where as the HTC I think has a film download app included on the phone.
So I would recommend not getting a 3D phone, wait for the next generation of 3D phones :
Lg optimus 3d hardware is beeter than evo 3D by far.
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I've had a LG P920 since just after release date and have been disappointed until recently. My phone always used to restart at random times when it wasn't being used, performance is a little poor compared to other devices I've had and apps have a knack of either freezing or not working such as the camera. The amount of times I missed a photo opportunity because the stupid camera won't take a picture when I press the button to take a picture. This also causes a problem when I want to use the LED flash as a torch as sometimes the flash just won't turn on.
I went for the LG because it had a slightly better camera on it and as I wanted the phone primarily to take 3D photos and videos it was the better option (I regret it now). I've also found the LG lacks 3D content on it where as the HTC I think has a film download app included on the phone.
So I would recommend not getting a 3D phone, wait for the next generation of 3D phones :
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Thanks for your replies everyone!!!
I wasn't aware of all these issues with the LG... it's a shame coz from my reasearch it seems to have better 3D capability than the HTC, however, that's not worth much if it keeps letting you down...
btw, are there any news of any upcoming 3D phones (or this so-called next generation)?
That would be really great and I'm aware theres a second model from LG coming out soon, the P720, but not sure when or whether it's really worth waiting; from the specs it seems the only thing improved was the CPU from 1000mhz to 1200mhz...
Maybe it will improve on the issues mentioned by FC360 of features constantly crashing...
All feedback is welcome!
Thanks
o3d's/thrill's hardware is one of the best in dual cores !!
it is the best portable media player i've owned, plays every media file you throw at it !
hdmi out is excellent !
almost everyone complains about the ghost calls/messages, but till now i didnt have a single issue with it (v21d baseband) !
it is just the lack of software support that pulls the optimus 3d back !
but ics has been officially confirmed by lg for the optimus 3d !
even we may get ics when it is released for 3d max
which would be much much earlier than the one lg officially releases for the o3d !
kylana0 said:
Hi everyone, I'm considering getting a new phone and I'd like a 3D one...
I'm considering either the HTC Evo 3D or the LG Optimus 3D and though I read a lot about each phone's specs I'd like to get some of you users opinions about their performance...
Considering that I like to constantly update the latest ROMs including CyanogenMod I wouold appreciate any advice you can give me regarding this LG and any pros cons you can think of...
Thanks in advance to everyone!
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More or less an opinion.
Granted; I've only owned the Optimus, but I've owned many other HTC phones before and many smartphones(apple, lg, samsung, etc)
This LG has satisfied me the most out of everyone I have ever had, why? The price. This phone cost me $200 and I get better performance than some people's $400 phones. If you are willing to pay the extra bit of money, hell, get a HTC. But for $200, the O3D is a great phone. I'm in no way denying the ghost call/ghost sms issue, but I personally haven't experienced it owning this phone since release and using stock roms for most of that time. it's got a decent camera, good 3D capability(despite that not being a remote selling point to me) fast processor, and good build quality. Something I noticed when I pickup up a Samsung device 3 times the cost of mine, is it felt so unbelievably cheap. LG has good build quality from my experience.
Not to say the HTC isn't a good phone, because I've liked every HTC phone I've had too, but for the price an O3D cannot be beat.
As for me with no problem with Ghost call etc, I'd go for O3D. If you have a problem with GB, then stick with Froyo.
I think Chainfire3D cannot use on ICS. If that the case, even if ICS release for O3D, I'll stay with current ROM.
I will tell you what i say to my customers.
If you like 3D its ok.
If you dont care about 3D and not gonna use it buy a Samsung.
Sent from my LG P-920 using ghost call method...
exept 3D , the O3D has good performance with custom roms in a common use
I owe an O3D, and im totally satisfied with the hardware (only custom ROM's can make it work properly and smooth) but if you check strictly the stats EVO got better,
1gb ram over 512
540 x 960 over 480 x 800
1.2ghz over 1ghz
But anyways the 3D world on O3D is way lot better

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