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how come there aren't alot of tablet apps? How difficult is it to upscale or modify the app to be tablet native? (not being sarcastic)
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how come there aren't alot of tablet apps? How difficult is it to upscale or modify the app to be tablet native? (not being sarcastic)
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Not all the devs have xooms yet,
Wait till IO and we will see a bunch of new and existing apps for honeycomb
If you download Spare Parts and disable compatibility mode it will full scale the apps that are fixed to phone dimensions
Most of the time, its not as simple as the developer getting a new SDK and rebuilding with it. New SDK's cause new bugs and new instabilities.
They have to remake all new art work for larger screens and high resolutions so that takes time.
And the Android Tablets aren't exactly "readily available" like Android phones are. Guys who are coding at home on weekends may not have the cash to pick one up right now. (That accounts for a lot of apps) Big companies also want to see how the market reacts to tablets before they invest in development of software for one when the entire market could flop (Doubtful, but not without its risk).
I'm an android developer in my day job and I promise you, if you want apps that really take advantage of honeycomb they have to be rebuilt from the ground up in the interface department at least. There are some exceptions but on the whole...
Be patient and the updates will come.
I'm even working on a couple of apps at home specially for the XOOM.
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Since this is the first tablet that dropped with Honeycomb, it might be a bit for everyone to catch up. The same thing happened when Windows computers went from XP to Win 7 OS. It took a bit for the software developers to remake newer versions.
Its strange that we dont even see support (right now) for big companies like facebook or twitter. or even some other google apps dont have that support yet.
jerses said:
Its strange that we dont even see support (right now) for big companies like facebook or twitter. or even some other google apps dont have that support yet.
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I'm guessing Google hasn't given them the AOSP before the public? Or maybe there wasn't any incentive for them to develop an app for something they didn't think would have the market share.
I remember when I first got my HTC Dream a couple of years ago, that there wasn't even a Facebook app out yet for it (it was still on stock Donut ROM from Rogers).
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I'm guessing Google hasn't given them the AOSP before the public? Or maybe there wasn't any incentive for them to develop an app for something they didn't think would have the market share.
I remember when I first got my HTC Dream a couple of years ago, that there wasn't even a Facebook app out yet for it (it was still on stock Donut ROM from Rogers).
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10.1 inches of web browser not reason enough not to call this a "mobile"?
I sure wouldn't write an app for something already fully functional.
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alias_neo said:
10.1 inches of web browser not reason enough not to call this a "mobile"?
I sure wouldn't write an app for something already fully functional.
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True, a lot of these sites work just fine with the browser (Stock, Dolphin). One thing that is a little bit off topic is the ability to hide the status bar (or go fullscreen with the browser) so we can really get the 10.1 inches rather then the 8 or so that we get with everything on the screen.
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It worked! Thanks
I'm curious how come there are still no AOSP or CM derived ROM's for the Note II that used Cornerstone. It would provide the same features offered by Samsung's own multi-window implementation in touch-wizz.
I've seen several ROM using this on the ASUS tablets.
If anyone doesn't know what I'm talking about , Cornerstone is an open source framework and launcher that offers multi-window support for AOSP and CM based ROMs. http://www.onskreen.com/cornerstone/
Source code here : https://github.com/Onskreen/cornerstone
Corner stone had issues with Google iirc because some apps don't behave well with it an resulting in bad ratings on the play store.. So cornerstone was blamed I haven't seen much progress on it since then..
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I'm curious how come there are still no AOSP or CM derived ROM's for the Note II that used Cornerstone. It would provide the same features offered by Samsung's own multi-window implementation in touch-wizz.
I've seen several ROM using this on the ASUS tablets.
If anyone doesn't know what I'm talking about , Cornerstone is an open source framework and launcher that offers multi-window support for AOSP and CM based ROMs. http://www.onskreen.com/cornerstone/
Source code here : https://github.com/Onskreen/cornerstone
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Cornerstone would cause CM to break the Android CTS. Knowingly breaking the Android CTS is a no-no for CM maintainers. (As to PIE - my opinion is that should never have been merged for that reason.)
Samsung worked around this by whitelisting a small subset of apps with the permission of the app developers - as big as CM is, I don't think we'd be able to get app developers to cooperate in this manner, and the end result is the effort to try and integrate Cornerstone just isn't worth it if it can only be used with a small handful of apps.
I'm not talking about official CM as I am aware of the issue it had with the CTS. I was referring to our ROM devs that make custom unofficial builds of AOSP , CM , AOKP and so on.
@Entropy512, I was curious how PIE made its way to CM. Surely there mustve been some debates regarding it. Could you please, if its possible, share some insight as to what points went against it, and in the end what was it that clinched it in favor of adding the feature?
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@Entropy512, I was curious how PIE made its way to CM. Surely there mustve been some debates regarding it. Could you please, if its possible, share some insight as to what points went against it, and in the end what was it that clinched it in favor of adding the feature?
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Much of that is private... I would prefer not to go into detail on it.
What I will say is it was highly controversial and a number of people (including myself) still think it should be reverted if it can't be made not to break the CTS. (There was discussions of possible ways to make it less breaky, such as removing edge/top triggers.)
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Corner stone had issues with Google iirc because some apps don't behave well with it an resulting in bad ratings on the play store.. So cornerstone was blamed I haven't seen much progress on it since then..
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Isn't this just like Samsung's Multi-Window? When I flashed the mod that added all apps to Multi-Window, I found that some apps just don't work that well with it- it doesn't stop me from using it, but I've changed the way that I use Multi-Window. If we could adopt that kind of mentality perhaps we could use Cornerstone... What kind of reported bad activity was happening with Cornerstone?
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Isn't this just like Samsung's Multi-Window? When I flashed the mod that added all apps to Multi-Window, I found that some apps just don't work that well with it- it doesn't stop me from using it, but I've changed the way that I use Multi-Window. If we could adopt that kind of mentality perhaps we could use Cornerstone... What kind of reported bad activity was happening with Cornerstone?
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Samsung's multi-window only works with certain applications that have been tested to work well with it. Anything not whitelisted won't work with multiwindow.
And NO - CM will NOT implement a "whitelist everything" hack like some people here have.
So since any app that gets used with Cornerstone would have to be approved by its author for use with Cornerstone, it then becomes an issue of - too much effort for too little reward. (There were, as I understand it, also some issues with Cornerstone's maintainability in the long-term, but the primary reason was application compatibility issues.)
I use multi window with every app (except games of course) and it is a breeze to use. Apps resize themselves very nicely. For me it is pure bliss to be able to have plume running side by side with tapatalk and use pop up browser for links. My dish anywhere app also works great with it as well. How can there be app compatibility issues if there are android phones with many dif size screens out there, basically the same issue no? The htc chacha had a 2.6 inch screen yet was google play certified. Thats not even half our screen size.
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In the end one Dev can build it.. Get 2 - 300 DL then users move on and the interest fades away I personally been there done that.. Not for corner stone in particular but the idea is dev are building what they wish to run in their device .. Maintaining it becomes lots of effort for minimal results/interest..
Android is moving so fast great things get left behind all the time..
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This is reminiscent of the times when webpages slowly started adapting to multiple devices, and thus was born the concept of responsive designs.
Previously they were built as per a definite CSS structure (Fixed-960 Grid it was called) But with analytics pointing to more and more variety in viewports, designers were forced to re-think their strategy towards responsive structures.
There were many who had a penchant dislike for it though. Creativity - they argued - suffered a lot at the hands of flexibility. Not many would know, but the introduction of responsive designs was ALSO one of the major reasons for the demise of flash-based websites.
So again, it boils down to how things pan out in the near future. If something similar comes along the way with regards to multi window development, and the demand/advantages far outweigh the difficulties in adapting code - I see no reason why the project could be back on track.
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I use multi window with every app (except games of course) and it is a breeze to use. Apps resize themselves very nicely. For me it is pure bliss to be able to have plume running side by side with tapatalk and use pop up browser for links. My dish anywhere app also works great with it as well. How can there be app compatibility issues if there are android phones with many dif size screens out there, basically the same issue no? The htc chacha had a 2.6 inch screen yet was google play certified. Thats not even half our screen size.
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Yeah, but the screen size NEVER CHANGED.
It's changes in aspect ratio and dimensions that can do really bad things - and in some cases, the Play Store (I believe) can actually serve up different APKs depending on the device.
With any normal device, the app knows, from the beginning, what environment it will be running in. With multiwindow - it can have its environment changed out from under it.
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Yeah, but the screen size NEVER CHANGED.
It's changes in aspect ratio and dimensions that can do really bad things - and in some cases, the Play Store (I believe) can actually serve up different APKs depending on the device.
With any normal device, the app knows, from the beginning, what environment it will be running in. With multiwindow - it can have its environment changed out from under it.
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the play store cannot let you have different apk for same app but it can let a developer upload app com.app.xhdpi
and com.app.hdpi (technically separate apps) and let the developer make the first one visible only to large devices
and the later one visible to smaller ones. an xhdpi phone will never be able to install the hdpi app and vice versa
I'm not smart enough to do it myself.. however, I am still amazed that no one has been able to work out how to convert an i9505 into a i9505G. I know the partition layout is different, and I also know that there are ported 4.3 GE roms available.. BUT all of that aside.. has Samsung won the war here?
Which leads me to a separate subject.. but.. their knox efuse.. while it hasn't been long.. it looks like they have won there as well.
In any case.. I'm more interested in the conversion to i9505G. Does anyone know more than I do about the status or possibility of ever being able to convert a i9505 to a i9505G?
Well.. This is not as easy as you may think.
Need someone who has both I9505 and I9505G. Also need special connection to I9505 like JTAG to get direct access to flash. Then using JTAG try to dump whole flash from I9505G and upload it to I9505. And then depend on success and whole result, procedure can be simplified.
But JTAG is required at experiment stage if you are not so rich who can afford to buy tens (if not hundred) I9505 while experimenting
A full conversion (think about bootloader,radio) is not possible.
Samsung secured the bootloader very agressively .
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A full conversion (think about bootloader,radio) is not possible.
Samsung secured the bootloader very agressively .
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That's why i've mentioned JTAG. Google JTAG if you wanna know what is that.
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A full conversion (think about bootloader,radio) is not possible.
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People said a reset of the flash counter was not possible.. @Chainfire was able to take care of that just fine..
I doubt it's impossible.. but I wonder how many people have even tried, or if there are even more than a handful of people with the skills needed to make this happen.
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People said a reset of the flash counter was not possible.. @Chainfire was able to take care of that just fine..
I doubt it's impossible.. but I wonder how many people have even tried, or if there are even more than a handful of people with the skills needed to make this happen.
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I tried everything except for jtag + bootloader exploit. Even hardbricked my S4 1 time.
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I tried everything except for jtag + bootloader exploit. Even hardbricked my S4 1 time.
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Thats very sad to hear, would this mean we will never have a full ported/working edition of google on our phones? shall I sell my phone and move to a nexus? or simply buy the original i9505G?
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Thats very sad to hear, would this mean we will never have a full ported/working edition of google on our phones? shall I sell my phone and move to a nexus? or simply buy the original i9505G?
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I sold my AT&T SGH-I337 GS4 and got an I-9505G. Best decision I ever made.
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I sold my AT&T SGH-I337 GS4 and got an I-9505G. Best decision I ever made.
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Why? Now you cant ever run TW roms now... But on the SGH 1337 you can run both roms
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Why? Now you cant ever run TW roms now... But on the SGH 1337 you can run both roms
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I couldn't care less about running ROMs. I unlocked the bootloader but otherwise I leave my devices stock and unrooted. I know how to root and install ROMs but once I knew how, my curiosity was satisfied.
Honestly, I have had Nexus devices my entire Android life. I decided to branch out and try a GS4 with Touchwiz. I really liked my I337, so much in fact, that I also ended up purchasing a Galaxy Note 8.0 as well. There are definitely things in Touchwiz that I'd love to see Google add to the stock user experience. I'm referring to things like air view and having separate wallpapers for the home and lock screens. Alas, though, when you've used stock Android as much as I have, it's hard to use anything else.
The only thing I truly miss about Touchwiz is the camera app. The camera was simply amazing. The other things that are important to me, namely the IR blaster and the S-View cover functionality, both work flawlessly on the I9505G.
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What i dislike most in stock Android is halo theme. It's really ugly. Micro check-boxes. Ugly seek-bars. Alert dialogs are too flat and sketchy. Halo theme looks more like concept than theme for daily usage.
TouchWiz theme was odd originally in time of SGS2, but it was getting better and better. On SGS4 it's nearly perfect. May be some elements like ViewPager and title bar need to reworks somehow. But overall it's way better theme than Halo. Also, there are many useful addons in TW ROM like quick settings panel, nice looking lock screen with quick launch shortcuts on the bottom, and other small tweaks making TW ROM much more useful than naked Android. And it's easier to remove unneeded apps/services/tweaks from TW ROM than add them into naked Android.
I would think about I9505G over I9505 only as device with bigger user storage running custom TW ROM, but it looks like not much success here.
From other side, you can buy 32GB version of I9505 and don't think about 16GB-only I9505G.
But hey, there are SHV-E330 and GT-I9506 already
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What i dislike most in stock Android is halo theme. It's really ugly. Micro check-boxes. Ugly seek-bars. Alert dialogs are too flat and sketchy. Halo theme looks more like concept than theme for daily usage.
TouchWiz theme was odd originally in time of SGS2, but it was getting better and better. On SGS4 it's nearly perfect. May be some elements like ViewPager and title bar need to reworks somehow. But overall it's way better theme than Halo. Also, there are many useful addons in TW ROM like quick settings panel, nice looking lock screen with quick launch shortcuts on the bottom, and other small tweaks making TW ROM much more useful than naked Android.
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You mean Holo I believe. That's why I use stock Android. TW with its different colors, big buttons that are not even separated from others and mixed styles in applications is really crazy and a pain to use. For people that like to use a phone without distractions it's a plain and simple fail.
Nice to have options as we're all not the same, you keep your TW phone, I will keep my stock Android one.
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And it's easier to remove unneeded apps/services/tweaks from TW ROM than add them into naked Android.
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I was taking you seriously until I read this. You think that removing system applications is easier than going to Google Play and download one? Yeah, sure!
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I was taking you seriously until I read this. You think that removing system applications is easier than going to Google Play and download one? Yeah, sure!
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Yeah.. It looks like your are really serious talking about replace TW features by 3rd party apps
Which app can replace lockscreen? None. It's impossible by android design. Only can mask some app as lockscreen which is completely different.
Having quick settings panel in on-going notification area? Phh..
If you think, it's not serious, then hold on and think first. May be other person, who is talking about this, knows something you don't know.
I'm not even talking about how serious people who are buying non-Nexus device and then whining about CM/AOSP in half of topics.
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Yeah.. It looks like your are really serious talking about replace TW features by 3rd party apps
Which app can replace lockscreen? None. It's impossible by android design. Only can mask some app as lockscreen which is completely different.
Having quick settings panel in on-going notification area? Phh..
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You're considering rooting a device to freeze/remove system applications. I was talking about simply adding applications to a stock Android from Google Play. I fail to see the former being easier.
And here the "impossible":
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.teslacoilsw.widgetlocker&hl=en
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.j4velin.notificationToggle&hl=en
In any case what you might consider essential I might consider a waste of resources.
That was the point of my post. That's why Android is a success.
And if you don't like to read people talking about changing non-Google devices you might be better off XDA.
XDA Developers was founded for developers by developers. It is now a valuable resource for people who want to make the most of their mobile devices, from customizing the look and feel to adding new functionality.
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You're considering rooting a device to freeze/remove system applications. I was talking about simply adding applications to a stock Android from Google Play. I fail to see the former being easier.
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If you are able to create custom ROM then removing unneeded apps (and even editing framework to cleanup from some useless features) is much easier than add absent functionality.
I suppose, we are on XDA, i.e. developer's forum right? If you are talking from regular user point of view who usually don't know what is "root", then it's out of scope of this board. Just buy Nexus device and then you are set.
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And here the "impossible":
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.teslacoilsw.widgetlocker&hl=en
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.j4velin.notificationToggle&hl=en
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I've told you already: there is no way to truly replace lockscreen by any other application. Lockscreen is a part of framework, not APK. I'm using android devices not the first year, and believe me, i've tried these apps long long time ago. These apps mimic lockscreen using some security holes in OS, but they are not replacing lockscreen. Actually, device remains unlocked all the time. Also there are many bugs and glitches because such apps trying to suppress original lockscreen with different kinds of success/fail.
As for modifying device: there are many ways to modify and it's not exactly by installing CM/AOSP. You can check my topics to see that i'm not just user.
XDA has been created long time before CM/AOSP and believe me there are many other good ways to modify the device. CM/AOSP have their own dedicated forums and repositories which should suit your needs better than XDA (if you want to compete in pointing directions to others).
P.S.: look into I9505G forum to see how users begging to add samsung's standard camera app which doesn't work on non-TW ROM.
Suggest them to install some app from Google play
The same can tell about video player and amount of video and audio codecs integrated into TW ROM. On TW ROM i can use nearly any music player and able to playback almost any audio and video. On GE ROM you have to find special audio player having support of some specific format, and then try to get used to its bugs without choice to switch to another player. With video player it's even worse...
Also, CM/AOSP usually don't have tight integration when it comes to Hardware 3D acceleration. Some selected devices (usually Nexus and GE devices) have good 3D support, but only some.
The truth is: Some people wanna to install CM/AOSP and then they realize they miss many useful (usually not noticeable when it presents) features. That's why custom TW ROMs are present and have a lot or users.
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The truth is: Some people wanna to install CM/AOSP and then they realize they miss many useful (usually not noticeable when it presents) features. That's why custom TW ROMs are present and have a lot or users.
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I never denied that TW based ROMs have value for some people, just that as well stock Android is much more attractive for others. If not we wouldn't be discussing this and you wouldn't see the kind of activity we see in this forum.
And I still disagree on the "easier" issue but I fail to see any benefit in continuing the discussion.
got a weird question... where's the am/pm display on the 12 hour clock for the i9505G rom that i installed? hmm...
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got a weird question... where's the am/pm display on the 12 hour clock for the i9505G rom that i installed? hmm...
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Look at the window?
So this really isn't going anywhere?
HTC One has just been fully converted into the GPe.
I was really hoping there was some kind of solution for this conversion
Anyway, thanks for all the hard work guys!
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So this really isn't going anywhere?
HTC One has just been fully converted into the GPe.
I was really hoping there was some kind of solution for this conversion
Anyway, thanks for all the hard work guys!
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Why would you need to ? You have CM/TW/GE to choose from when using the i9505 partition layout. Took us a couple of hours to get KitKat after the GE got it (broodplank delivered AOSP 4.4 even earlier).
hello guys...
Just wanted to know why nexus 5 doesn't have special features such as camera effects, special effects for home screen or so on..
That's because Nexus line of devices come with pure vanilla android!
If you want those effects, there are tons of apps available on the playstore
You do realise what Vanilla means right?
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hello guys...
Just wanted to know why nexus 5 doesn't have special features such as camera effects, special effects for home screen or so on..
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As stated its because we have pure "vanilla" android. It's a bit boring to some but its exciting for those that want speed and love to hack/modify.
Think of it this way. The Nexus 5 is like a Lamborghini (uncomfortable to drive, but very fast), phones like the G2 are like a Mercedes still pretty fast (not as fast as the Lambo) but its more luxurious and packed with features.
The main feature exclusive to the Nexus 5 is timely updates straight from Google.
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ArtieQ said:
You do realise what Vanilla means right?
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Yeah http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vanilla_software
Anyway the reason is of course that the software is built from aosp with Google addons, while this is also the case for any other device, except those have their respective customisations on top of aosp and Google addons.
So nexus 5 has plenty of special features, they are just not exclusive, as Google is about software and makes money from all android devices, and allows all OEMS to use these features, while the OEMS want to keep their features exclusive in order to attract customers to their devices.
So every time Google adds new features, its also rolled out to all other android devices.
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hello guys...
Just wanted to know why nexus 5 doesn't have special features such as camera effects, special effects for home screen or so on..
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Welcome to the forum!
The features you mentioned are really easy to add if you are rooted. BEFORE you root, however, I strongly suggest that you read everything you can about the phone to become familiar with its native functionality (e.g., the sticky threads at the top of this forum) as well as the N5 Apps and Themes forum to get an idea of how you can mod (Browsing the Play Store and trying out apps is also a lot of fun). ONLY after you have read thoroughly everything mentioned above, you can decide if you'd like to root (which I recommend, because many great apps and mods require root) and, perhaps, try flashing some custom roms and kernels.
I'm familiar with Google play and have installed many apps from there, but I've not owned another Android phone. So I don't know what capabilities other high end phones have that are missing on the N5.
What are some of the better customizations some high end phones have that I could add to the N5 using which apps? I am rooted but would prefer to remain with stock rom 4.4.2 rather than flash a new rom.
Thanks.
Actually, we're still slightly modified from vanilla aosp. We have Google dialer lookup and photosphere.
Nexus 5 is developers phone and built on a budget
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Actually, we're still slightly modified from vanilla aosp. We have Google dialer lookup and photosphere.
Nexus 5 is developers phone and built on a budget
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Yeah that's right. AOSP also has Browser by default (not Chrome) and many other things...
We (Nexus + GPE Devices) have:
AOSP + Google Apps - Some AOSP Apps (that were replaced).
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Anderson2 said:
I'm familiar with Google play and have installed many apps from there, but I've not owned another Android phone. So I don't know what capabilities other high end phones have that are missing on the N5.
What are some of the better customizations some high end phones have that I could add to the N5 using which apps? I am rooted but would prefer to remain with stock rom 4.4.2 rather than flash a new rom.
Thanks.
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Since you are rooted, I would suggest perhaps looking into xposed framework and the gravity box module, since it's essentially made for phones this close to stock android. You can enable a ton of useful features from there, all on the stock ROM. There are also kernels you can flash to attain certain features, such as the knock on screen to activate thingy that comes with the LG G2. There aren't really a tone of features that other phones have that the N5 doesn't, The base functions are essentially the same, they just present a ton of different ways to go about it. With gravity box, for example, you can make it so when you tap on the status bar the phone goes to sleep. You can really do anything you want as far as customization, but all smartphones essentially do the same thing ie:internet, phone calls, camera, bt, music etc. Since you went ahead and rooted, research custom recoveries and start going to town exploring options. There are a ton for a phone such as this, it's just a matter of sifting through all the option until you find exactly what you want. You can google the highlights that other OEMs provide and find a close-as-possible match for that feature, whether it be a module, rom or kernel. There are A TON of options, so don't get overwhelmed and have fun brother! Modding a Nexus is, in my opinion, more about the journey of exploring the possibilities rather than searching for the perfect set up. Welcome to the best phone out right now and if there is anything I can help you with, please feel free to PM me.
Thanks for replying. Because I've never used one of the other phones I just didn't know what I was "giving up" by going with Nexus.
I've been a user of Xposed Framework, Xgravity, Xprivacy, and Boot manager for some time and love them. Also greenify, titanium backup, Nova prime, and TWRP. I'm delighted with the phone but had no previous experience to compare it with which is why I asked the question.
For instance I've heard some users rave about their MotoX interface but I don't know what made it so special. Do you know?
(Still scared to go into kernels and different roms because everything is working so well and I don't want to mess things up).
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Thanks for replying. Because I've never used one of the other phones I just didn't know what I was "giving up" by going with Nexus.
I've been a user of Xposed Framework, Xgravity, Xprivacy, and Boot manager for some time and love them. Also greenify, titanium backup, Nova prime, and TWRP. I'm delighted with the phone but had no previous experience to compare it with which is why I asked the question.
For instance I've heard some users rave about their MotoX interface but I don't know what made it so special. Do you know?
(Still scared to go into kernels and different roms because everything is working so well and I don't want to mess things up).
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The 2 biggest aspects, as far as I understand, to what makes the Moto X so unique is the "always listening" feature, which we have with ok Google and the active display lockscreen, which shows messages and content from the lockscreen using a black background. Since it is AMOLED, that uses less battery than actually turning on the phone to look at the message. There are a couple app that can perform this function for any phone (AcDisplay and Dynamic Notifications.) While they are certainly cool, doesn't do us much good battery-savingwise because we don't have AMOLED screens. Moto X also uses its core in some way that is supposed to be more efficient...but I honesty haven't looked into it much : ) I completely understand about be wary with kernels and ROMs! I've been flashing assorted mods for a couple of years, but it took me some time to commit myself to doing it and I read and read and read because I didn't wanna jack anything up. Inevitably I did, but it was a learning experience. I completely understand about the stock ROM as well. I have tried a few ROMs and kernels on this phone and decided that I was perfectly happy with stock. I'm not even rooted anymore and I locked my bootloader back (shameful, I know. and though this kind of contradicts what I was saying about experimenting, stock is where I am the most satisfied...I've tried plenty of other ROMs, but I've found I crave true stability) This phone is a beast as is and the only reason I would ever root is just for gravity box, but I'm content for now. There are some bugs with stock, but Google is working on them and there should be an update in the near future.
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Nikhil.1105 said:
hello guys...
Just wanted to know why nexus 5 doesn't have special features such as camera effects, special effects for home screen or so on..
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It does. It's the easiest phone to mod and comes with the largest mod community. That's a special feature that's why I buy it
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you guys forget that it does have a special feature, its googles baby, its a nexus. and like all nexus, its freedom in a device
Anderson2 said:
Thank you.
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NP bud
Nikhil.1105 said:
hello guys...
Just wanted to know why nexus 5 doesn't have special features such as camera effects, special effects for home screen or so on..
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It's special because I CHOSE what makes it special. I can have camera effects or unique home screens with ease....it was built that way.
Thanks to all... But I don't know how to root.. And rooting will void my warranty.. And if in case something goes wrong in route then I will regret for it..
Nikhil.1105 said:
Thanks to all... But I don't know how to root.. And rooting will void my warranty.. And if in case something goes wrong in route then I will regret for it..
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You will be happier with a different phone.
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Kinda disappointed there's no Pixel love, any devs out there looking to make an AOSP ROM?
Honestly, is there even much reason to when stock is so good?
k.s.deviate said:
Kinda disappointed there's no Pixel love, any devs out there looking to make an AOSP ROM?
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To my knowledge they haven't released the source code yet for AOSP to be built off of.
I see them here https://android.googlesource.com/
Under device/google/marlin
k.s.deviate said:
Kinda disappointed there's no Pixel love, any devs out there looking to make an AOSP ROM?
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Give them time, it is a fairly new device.
pjd2011 said:
Honestly, is there even much reason to when stock is so good?
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The reason is simple. No carrier Bloat!!!
I'm sure it will come with time.. I'm just putting it out there ? no disrespect meant in anyway.
FernBch said:
Give them time, it is a fairly new device.
The reason is simple. No carrier Bloat!!!
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I have the Verizon version what carrier Bloat are you talking about?
parmend said:
I have the Verizon version what carrier Bloat are you talking about?
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If you put an active Verizon sim in any pixel it will install like 3 apps. No big deal at all they can all be uninstalled but for some reason people think it's a huge deal lol
pjd2011 said:
Honestly, is there even much reason to when stock is so good?
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Yes for all of the functions and settings custom roms offer.
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aholeinthewor1d said:
If you put an active Verizon sim in any pixel it will install like 3 apps. No big deal at all they can all be uninstalled but for some reason people think it's a huge deal lol
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The Verizon apps are always there just deactivated. Verizon sim just lets the apps show up in your app drawer. Also the Verizon apps are always running in the background. Don't know why; I don't even have a Verizon sim in my phone but there they are.
drock212 said:
The Verizon apps are always there just deactivated. Verizon sim just lets the apps show up in your app drawer. Also the Verizon apps are always running in the background. Don't know why; I don't even have a Verizon sim in my phone but there they are.
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Where are these apps?
Edit: there are no hidden disabled apps at all. They do not come installed on the phone. They get installed during setup if you have a Verizon sim card in and sign into a good account in the setup. I've had two pixels and done at least 10 factory resets and flashed full factory images. I've never had one of those apps get installed
aholeinthewor1d said:
Where are these apps?
Edit: there are no hidden disabled apps at all. They do not come installed on the phone. They get installed during setup if you have a Verizon sim card in and sign into a good account in the setup. I've had two pixels and done at least 10 factory resets and flashed full factory images. I've never had one of those apps get installed
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Install greenify and look through the list of apps you can have it force close. I've attached some screen shots in case you don't want to install greenify, as well as a screen shot that shows in on AT&T
drock212 said:
Install greenify and look through the list of apps you can have it force close. I've attached some screen shots in case you don't want to install greenify, as well as a screen shot that shows in on AT&T
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I don't have them.
I manually delete everything Verizon/sprint, no need for them with T-Mobile on Google version
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hi,
technically, u can build a working aosp 7.1.1 Rom for the pixel now, but its still a bit rough around the edges... I've already done it a couple of times. it comes with a few caveats though, by default its setup to use google's prebuilt kernel in the build, opengapps wont install without patching aosp and the build.prop in /vendor needs to be adjusted to match the fingerprint in /system to avoid an error on boot... all of these things are trivially fixable, but pixel on aosp isn't ready for primetime yet, Imho...
the stock Rom is much much better... I think until cyanogenmod and other Roms get working builds out, idk there's any compelling reason to switch to aosp....
lastly, idk aosp builds would be as fast ot optimized, im not sure how google's internal toolchain differs; are they using sdclang? are there optimizations in art, bionics, etc that haven't hit aosp yet? etc, etc
I too am keeping an eye on the custom ROM scene. I've always preferred the "lack" of carrier bloat, etc. Being a tester for some time has taught me much. Since the demise of my last device I am forced to take a break.
Stock is really good. But I am looking forward to using substratum again.
fracman said:
Stock is really good. But I am looking forward to using substratum again.
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I've been using substratum but just for theming the navbar on stock/pixel rom.... Obviously, if you try to theme systemui you will get a bootloop though (as expected. lol)... On top of that, I did also play with theming individual apps, mainly phone and google play which both worked, with the particular theme that I was using...
Theming would be nice on stock, it's too bad that google ripped out the dark theme that was in the N previews, I would have been happy with that, myself.
I think I'm most looking forward to the extra features that get baked into custom AOSP Roms and the full substratum support. I'm not a big fan CyanogenMod, but I do try them out from time to time. Always seem to go back to AOSP tho.
I am using substratum to theme everything but system UI. All individual apps, settings etc.
k.s.deviate said:
I think I'm most looking forward to the extra features that get baked into custom AOSP Roms and the full substratum support. I'm not a big fan CyanogenMod, but I do try them out from time to time. Always seem to go back to AOSP tho.
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ya, I've contributed some patches to CM - but since getting the Pixel, I'm fairly happy with Stock. There are only a few features that I miss in CM that aren't available on the Pixel and even when I was using CM on my s5 - I always had to rip out a number of CM's features; all of the CMstats (analytics stuff), a number of their apps + adding my own keys since it is insecure (and arguably quite silly) to be using public known keys on ROMs (although, afaict - many third-party roms tend to do that.).
I'm thinking about rolling my own AOSP for Pixel -> pulling in only the features that I want, most of which I have patches for and only a few bits would need to be tracked down that I don't have. not hard to find though... Now that TWRP (RC1) can actually restore backups I can start actually looking at playing with AOSP without losing my stock rom that is already setup.