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Easiest way to get back to totally stock from S-OFF?

Hi there, I've got CM7 with S-OFF on my Sensation right now and I'm going to give my phone to my aunt since I upgraded to a GN
Just wondering, what's the easiest way to get it back to stock and wiping it too? I need it so that it'll start getting OTA updates again.. doesn't really matter if it stays rooted (I'd prefer that but whatever is easier..)
Tried looking at some guides but they all don't have what I'm looking for..

pookguy88 said:
Hi there, I've got CM7 with S-OFF on my Sensation right now and I'm going to give my phone to my aunt since I upgraded to a GN
Just wondering, what's the easiest way to get it back to stock and wiping it too? I need it so that it'll start getting OTA updates again.. doesn't really matter if it stays rooted (I'd prefer that but whatever is easier..)
Tried looking at some guides but they all don't have what I'm looking for..
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Just run the stock ruu for your carrier...and there is a few guides for this actually. You should prolly look at that sticky(the one about guides) again...
Sent by my feau gee

pookguy88 said:
Hi there, I've got CM7 with S-OFF on my Sensation right now and I'm going to give my phone to my aunt since I upgraded to a GN
Just wondering, what's the easiest way to get it back to stock and wiping it too? I need it so that it'll start getting OTA updates again.. doesn't really matter if it stays rooted (I'd prefer that but whatever is easier..)
Tried looking at some guides but they all don't have what I'm looking for..
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Hi,
I'm not sure which guides you have looked at.
Have you seen THIS ONE,
or THIS ONE

I don't get the updates either. How can I check if my phone is S-Off or not?

F-Styla said:
I don't get the updates either. How can I check if my phone is S-Off or not?
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S off is not the reason you're not getting OTA, custom recovery would be the most likely culprit. To see if you are s off, poweroff the phone, remove battery, replace battery, hold volume down and power, release the power button but keep holding the volume down, H Boot should appear, it will say s off or s on.
Did you buy the phone new or used? Have you flashed any custom ROM?
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using xda premium

Also, if did the superCID, make sure to return it to stock so your Aunt can get OTA updates.

Rhiannon224 said:
Did you buy the phone new or used? Have you flashed any custom ROM?
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using xda premium
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So you can keep S-OFF and root and still get OTAs?

Nope, my phone was branded at first, but I flashed 2.3.4 (
RUU_Pyramid_HTC_Europe_1.45.401.2_Radio_10.56.9035 .00U_10.14.9035.01_M_release_208857_signed) from this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1074559
to unbrand it.

so what CID should I set it to for T-Mobile USA??
Can't seem to find that anywhere.. and where/how do I wipe my SD card?

Here's a list of CID codes this should be of use to you
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1195475
To format your sd card connect your phone to your pc and right click format on your sd card when connected via storage mode

thanks Nik.. argghh the only thing I'm missing now is the RUU stock ROM. That link that's stickied in the dev forum for the latest T-Mobile USA ROM is dead.. trying to find a mirror now

Rhiannon224 said:
S off is not the reason you're not getting OTA, custom recovery would be the most likely culprit. To see if you are s off, poweroff the phone, remove battery, replace battery, hold volume down and power, release the power button but keep holding the volume down, H Boot should appear, it will say s off or s on.
Did you buy the phone new or used? Have you flashed any custom ROM?
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using xda premium
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So can you tell me?
Nope, my phone was branded at first, but I flashed 2.3.4 (
RUU_Pyramid_HTC_Europe_1.45.401.2_Radio_10.56.9035 .00U_10.14.9035.01_M_release_208857_signed) from this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1074559
to unbrand it.
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[Q] Question about bootloader

Probably showing my ignorance but i would like to know if any functionality is lost by changing the bootloader of a rom to the revolutionary bootloader when s-offing the rom?
I would also be grateful if somebody could explain to me what improvements or ill effects a change of bootloader can invoke i.e. what parts of the functionality of the rom do the bootloader effect.

Bootloader doesn't affect the ROM at all. The bootloader is just what boots into a rom.

bobsie41 said:
Probably showing my ignorance but i would like to know if any functionality is lost by changing the bootloader of a rom to the revolutionary bootloader when s-offing the rom?
I would also be grateful if somebody could explain to me what improvements or ill effects a change of bootloader can invoke i.e. what parts of the functionality of the rom do the bootloader effect.
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If you go through the Revolutionary process. You'll get a Hboot with a slightly different version.
You will however, get S-OFF and Su and a Custom Recovery (ClockworkMod, CWM).
The phone will operate normally. You will have the opportunity of backing it up (Nandroid), installing apps that require Root access and install Custom ROMs.
As I think the other poster mentioned, can't see it ATM, the bootloader is Phone based and independent of the ROM.
I originally used a similar process (AlphaRev) on my desire, AlphaRev and Unrevoked produced Revolutionary together.
From personal experience, it has not affected my phone in any adverse manner, as always YMMV. It opened possibilities though.

Then why are there different bootloaders??
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using xda premium

bobsie41 said:
Then why are there different bootloaders??
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using xda premium
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Usually 'cos HTC release slightly different versions of them.
The latest one 1.19 seems more locked down for example.
TBH most folks just use Revolutionary to S-OFF etc. then just leave it at that, mine is 1.17.1111 Once it's done it's done. There is a new Radio that seems to require 1.19 but as my phone works well with the current version I have installed, I'm leaving that well alone.
According to their site they can apply S-OFF to the following versions: HTC Sensation (pyramid) 1.17.0006, .0008, .0011 and .0012, 1.18.0000
What are you actually trying to do / want to achieve ?

what u loose is if u are on stock can update using HTC OTA
If u are stock rom u will not be able to make the OTA updates as it will hang since it expect its own hboot, this is the drawback I know. u will have them to reload a stock copy to have the official hboot and recovery again.

boalos said:
If u are stock rom u will not be able to make the OTA updates as it will hang since it expect its own hboot, this is the drawback I know. u will have them to reload a stock copy to have the official hboot and recovery again.
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Good point.
However Custom ROMs seem to be "nicer" and tend to have updates earlier.
EDIT: As a fellow Vodafone UK user I thought I'd add that: When I had my HTC Desire (was running Eclair initially) and Froyo was being released, Vf UK was one of the slowest companies to release it. As the newer Froyo offered significant improvements I jumped at the chance to go for a Carrier independent ROM that supported Froyo. Thus freeing myself from Vf release schedule and also removing the Vf bloat ware that I never used. I did suffer a set back when I got the Sensation as initially S-OFF wasn't possible. This situation looks like it'll repeat itself with the release of ICS. PM if you want more info.

gol_n_dal said:
Usually 'cos HTC release slightly different versions of them.
The latest one 1.19 seems more locked down for example.
TBH most folks just use Revolutionary to S-OFF etc. then just leave it at that, mine is 1.17.1111 Once it's done it's done. There is a new Radio that seems to require 1.19 but as my phone works well with the current version I have installed, I'm leaving that well alone.
According to their site they can apply S-OFF to the following versions: HTC Sensation (pyramid) 1.17.0006, .0008, .0011 and .0012, 1.18.0000
What are you actually trying to do / want to achieve ?
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I am trying to achieve the best possible stock experience but i don't want to lose the ability to root.
The reason i was asking was the fact that it was stated that, the new h-boot was needed for the new radio to work properly on the leaked ics with sense RUU which suggests that the bootloaders have slightly different functionality.

bobsie41 said:
I am trying to achieve the best possible stock experience but i don't want to lose the ability to root.
The reason i was asking was the fact that it was stated that, the new h-boot was needed for the new radio to work properly on the leaked ics with sense RUU which suggests that the bootloaders have slightly different functionality.
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Ahh you're talking about 11.59..... Sorry I think I got off topic :-((
I've seen a few still using 10.58.........10.15... on ICS with success. I have downloaded an ICS ROM and it seems to work on HBoot 1.17.1111 with my radio. Reflashed back to CM7 though, but I now have the option. I'll reflash ICS again and just confirm it works on 3G and WiFi as usual. I didn't check too far when I first tried. Please bear in mind that these ICS ROMs are based on unreleased versions, so really a taster at the moment.

New One S Owner, How should I update

Hi Folks
Just traded my sXL in for a One s (HTC seemed to have abandoned the XL and didnt like the camera). Its Unlocked and open EU still on 403, still charging it. Ive had an OTA warning saying 404 sense 4.1, but it comes with something by EAGames. As much as I cannot stand EA and their bloatware corporate BS, is this ok or should I install one of the ROMs from here. Im not a big custom ROM person and was wanting to stay on Stock.
Any advice on where to start
Night.

NightOrchid said:
Hi Folks
Just traded my sXL in for a One s (HTC seemed to have abandoned the XL and didnt like the camera). Its Unlocked and open EU still on 403, still charging it. Ive had an OTA warning saying 404 sense 4.1, but it comes with something by EAGames. As much as I cannot stand EA and their bloatware corporate BS, is this ok or should I install one of the ROMs from here. Im not a big custom ROM person and was wanting to stay on Stock.
Any advice on where to start
Night.
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Em before updating what Hboot do you have?

Its
Locked S-On
HBoot 1.13.0000
20 Apr 2012
Any Good?

NightOrchid said:
Its
Locked S-On
HBoot 1.13.0000
20 Apr 2012
Any Good?
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Dam was hoping for a lower Hboot. Ya the OTA update should be fine and the EA thing don't come with a game, you use the app to do that and it can be removed.

Darknites said:
Dam was hoping for a lower Hboot. Ya the OTA update should be fine and the EA thing don't come with a game, you use the app to do that and it can be removed.
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Thanks alot.. yeah I had a quick read around the forum and I think its 1.06 or 1.09.. thats the better HBoot.. is that right. Also, will it make any difference flashing the newest ROM from FileFactory.
Yeah, ill remove the EA stuff.
Cheers for the help

NightOrchid said:
Thanks alot.. yeah I had a quick read around the forum and I think its 1.06 or 1.09.. thats the better HBoot.. is that right. Also, will it make any difference flashing the newest ROM from FileFactory.
Yeah, ill remove the EA stuff.
Cheers for the help
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If you talking about RUU then that is the full update and is handy to have for a backup. Both of them Hboots are good but you can downgrade the Hboot if you up to it.

1. Use HTC Dev to unlock the bootloader
2. fastboot TWRP recovery
3. Backup the stock ROM, whatever it is
4. Wipe system and do a factory reset
5. Flash CM10 or some other proper ROM
6. Reboot into bootloader, fastboot the boot.img
7. Reboot and enjoy a proper phone
Never use the stock ROM. It sucks.

justaway2 said:
Never use the stock ROM. It sucks.
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I disagree. I feel "untouch" (out-of-the-box) - no rom flashed, is actually better in term of battery life. Just exchange phone from t-mbole, not root yet, and battery is very impressive. from 6:30-3:30pm, the phone only lose 17%. This is w/an excessive usage (surf, txt, call, emailing, etc).
I flash lot of ROM and seem like none can beat it. The last rom i flash same time above and the reminding battery is only 20% left. Well, other rom. seem a little better maybe 40% left til 5pm.

[Q] RUU off htc web site

I would like to ask I downloaded the ruu for htc inspire off their web site, from what I had read it is the latest software for the inspire. question would it lock my inspire if i flashed it? thanks

gage0727 said:
I would like to ask I downloaded the ruu for htc inspire off their web site, from what I had read it is the latest software for the inspire. question would it lock my inspire if i flashed it? thanks
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If you are S-Off, you will lose recovery and root but keep S-Off. If your bootloader is unlocked, you will need to relock it before the RUU will run.

can you tell me how to check to make sure bootloader is locked? I am asuming my bootloader is unlocked because I dont know anything about locking it.

gage0727 said:
can you tell me how to check to make sure bootloader is locked? I am asuming my bootloader is unlocked because I dont know anything about locking it.
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Reboot into hboot. It will say what you have at the top.

k says eng s-off RL so I take the rl to mean recovery is locked.

gage0727 said:
k says eng s-off RL so I take the rl to mean recovery is locked.
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Recovery is not lockable. The bootloader is. Your bootloader isn't unlocked but you are S-Off. If you run a RUU it will wipe your recovery and ROM, but you will keep S-Off.

yea i figured it would wipe my rom i have on my phone now, but as long as it dont lock my phone so i can flash another rom or radio to it later is ok. Kinda wanting to go back to stock since it seams the rom developement is going away for inspire. I still have two months before I can upgrade, but i do plan on keeping my inpsire for playing around with. Looking at getting a gal3 or maybe gal4 not sure yet.

gage0727 said:
yea i figured it would wipe my rom i have on my phone now, but as long as it dont lock my phone so i can flash another rom or radio to it later is ok. Kinda wanting to go back to stock since it seams the rom developement is going away for inspire. I still have two months before I can upgrade, but i do plan on keeping my inpsire for playing around with. Looking at getting a gal3 or maybe gal4 not sure yet.
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Inspire 4G can use Desire HD ROMs. Look in those forums for more development.

I have been dont really like many of them. wish I could learn how to cook my own rom, but do not have the time it takes to learn it. well I do i guess just would have to start at the very begining and do not have the linux system. I will some day take the time to learn it, right now i am making sure I am up on the basics, every day and every question is a learning experiance which is why i like doing this. lol thanks again for the info bud.
i just noticed something you said htc desire HD not just htc desire. Is their a differance between the two? i have been looking in desire.

gage0727 said:
I have been dont really like many of them. wish I could learn how to cook my own rom, but do not have the time it takes to learn it. well I do i guess just would have to start at the very begining and do not have the linux system. I will some day take the time to learn it, right now i am making sure I am up on the basics, every day and every question is a learning experiance which is why i like doing this. lol thanks again for the info bud.
i just noticed something you said htc desire HD not just htc desire. Is their a differance between the two? i have been looking in desire.
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The Desire HD and the Inspire 4G are essentially the same phone. The Desire is the precursor to the DHD. So yes, there is a big difference between the Desire and the Desire HD. Do not flash Desire ROMs on a DHD or an I4G; they are incompatible.

safe ruu to get me to hboot 2.15

bootloader currently showing....
Bootloader info:
*** LOCKED ***
VLE PVT SHIP S-ON RL
HBOOT-1.14.005
RaDIO-1.13.50.05.25
OpenDSP-v29.1.0.45.0622
eMMC-boot
Nov 21 2012,12:17:41
Software Number
2.35.531.12 710RD
Android
4.04
much thanks

the RUU_Ville_U_JB_45_S_HTC_Europe_3.16.401.8_Radio_1.11.50.05.28_10.27.50.08L_release_301814_signed_2_4.exe found here is the latest one released for unbranded devices afaik.
alltho itll downgrade your radio as it seems...

Dolour said:
the RUU_Ville_U_JB_45_S_HTC_Europe_3.16.401.8_Radio_1.11.50.05.28_10.27.50.08L_release_301814_signed_2_4.exe found here is the latest one released for unbranded devices afaik.
alltho itll downgrade your radio as it seems...
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That one won't work. He has a T-Mobile US phone (SKU 531) and is a S-ON user. The RUU you linked is for the SKU 401. You can't change your SKU with S-ON.
@20twins10: Try this RUU. It should set your phone back to stock. You can update it afterwards to the latest version by using the OTA function in "settings>about". If the RUU doesn't work as expected you should turn off your internet connection, your firewall and you antivirus software, boot your phone to fastboot mode and try again.

Flippy498 said:
That one won't work. He has a T-Mobile US phone (SKU 531) and is a S-ON user. The RUU you linked is for the SKU 401. You can't change your SKU with S-ON.
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well, the site linked allso contains the TMO ruus available, didnt figure from the bootloader info its a branded device.

Dolour said:
well, the site linked allso contains the TMO ruus available, didnt figure from the bootloader info its a branded device.
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I know that. Guess where I found the TMOUS ruu.

Flippy498 said:
I know that. Guess where I found the TMOUS ruu.
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well gj then i suppose.
a word of warning tho: updates messing with the hboot version seem to have a tendency to bork your mmcblk0p20, causing you to end up on edge only(im trying for weeks now,
to get my hands on a WORKING image for unbranded eu devices, without any luck).
so make sure to pull a backup to be able to revert!

Dolour said:
well gj then i suppose.
a word of warning tho: updates messing with the hboot version seem to have a tendency to bork your mmcblk0p20, causing you to end up on edge only(im trying for weeks now,
to get my hands on a WORKING image for unbranded eu devices, without any luck).
so make sure to pull a backup to be able to revert!
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I actually never faced such a problem. And I upgraded and downgraded my One S's fimware a lot during the last three years. (But I think this is going too much off topic. So let's leave it at that. )
@20twins10: I just noticed that your bootloader is still locked. (I guess I have missed that info earlier.) So your phone seems to be untouched in terms of bootloader unlocking and rooting. That actually makes me wonder why you don't use the OTA function in settings>about?

Flippy498 said:
I actually never faced such a problem. And I upgraded and downgraded my One S's fimware a lot during the last three years. (But I think this is going too much off topic. So let's leave it at that. )
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well, considering the 30+ pages long thread on this forum, regarding the issue, i wouldnt exactly call it OT, just bc youve been lucky until now.
btw, you dont, by "chance" *cough*, have one of the above mentioned mmcblk0p20's for unbranded, european devices handy(or could dd one if you find a couple minz)?

Dolour said:
well, considering the 30+ pages long thread on this forum, regarding the issue, i wouldnt exactly call it OT, just bc youve been lucky until now.
btw, you dont, by "chance" *cough*, have one of the above mentioned mmcblk0p20's for unbranded, european devices handy(or could dd one if you find a couple minz)?
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But as far as I know the problems arose after people S-OFFed their phones and/or downgraded their hboot using a ruu. (Haven't checked that thread for over a year.) And neither of these processes has anything to do with this topic. So let's continue this discussion via PM.

Flippy498 said:
But as far as I know the problems arose after people S-OFFed their phones and/or downgraded their hboot using a ruu. (Haven't checked that thread for over a year.) And neither of these processes has anything to do with this topic. So let's continue this discussion via PM.
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well it happened to me after doing a simple factory reset, no s-off, not even root, it definetly isnt related to hboot 2.16 or s-offing at all.
therefore i consider the suggestion of backing everything up before doing any changes to the OS pretty important, and totally on-topic.

hey guys thanks for all the responses. i need to get some time to sit and read them. i've been busy with work and school and was not able to get time back to xda till now.. just a quick update: i was able to adjust my driver files and get fastboot to recogonize my phone, i did get my bootloader unlocked and twrp flashed.. as far back as i can remember ive never used OTA's and always go about it . i guess ive always come to the conclusion an ota dl will get you on the hot list if you are out of warranty or conretact type deal..
but either way.. there is progress on my end. my wife runs a couple apps that require 5.0 or better so i'd like to get that to work for her.. she'll ***** when she needs to re-enter her pw's though.. cant wint.. much thanks..

20twins10 said:
hey guys thanks for all the responses. i need to get some time to sit and read them. i've been busy with work and school and was not able to get time back to xda till now.. just a quick update: i was able to adjust my driver files and get fastboot to recogonize my phone, i did get my bootloader unlocked and twrp flashed.. as far back as i can remember ive never used OTA's and always go about it . i guess ive always come to the conclusion an ota dl will get you on the hot list if you are out of warranty or conretact type deal..
but either way.. there is progress on my end. my wife runs a couple apps that require 5.0 or better so i'd like to get that to work for her.. she'll ***** when she needs to re-enter her pw's though.. cant wint.. much thanks..
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I don't know what you mean with "getting on the hot list". (Sorry English isn't my mother tongue.)
Actually the unlock process and the flashing of TWRP was completely unnecessary. Before you should start flashing any custom files you need to upgrade to the latest firmware. Many of the android 5 custom roms won't work if your firmware is too old. Just flash the RUU and then install the OTAs. (Since you flashed TWRP you now must use the RUU whereas it's been optional at the point where you started this thread.)