Hey guys, asking pretty much what's in heading. Can I use a phone simply on wifi , without a Sim and make phone calls?
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Take your sim out and try it.
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You can use Google voice with groove IP.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.snrblabs.grooveip
I recommend the paid version.
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there are many apps that use wifi...
Skype is one...
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I also use groove IP with a Google voice number when I travel to another country.
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Vontage
I use the Vontage app. It doesn't use any of your minutes (I'm on the 100 minute 5GB T-Mobile plan) and its free. Additionally, it uses your mobile number on the caller ID (out-going calls only). This means that when you call your mom, girlfriend, etc. they will answer because the number is recognized as being yours. Give it a shot.
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I use the Vontage app. It doesn't use any of your minutes (I'm on the 100 minute 5GB T-Mobile plan) and its free. Additionally, it uses your mobile number on the caller ID (out-going calls only). This means that when you call your mom, girlfriend, etc. they will answer because the number is recognized as being yours. Give it a shot.
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you mean Vonage?
I use text plus with a different number as a back up and talkatone with Google voice.
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FuMMoD said:
I use text plus with a different number as a back up and talkatone with Google voice.
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So you have 3 numbers? lol.. 1 for text plus, 1 for GV and your reg cell plan...
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ggillie said:
I use the Vontage app. It doesn't use any of your minutes (I'm on the 100 minute 5GB T-Mobile plan) and its free. Additionally, it uses your mobile number on the caller ID (out-going calls only). This means that when you call your mom, girlfriend, etc. they will answer because the number is recognized as being yours. Give it a shot.
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Vonage works like skype?? you need to buy credits to beable to make calls unless its to another vonage user??
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So you have 3 numbers? lol.. 1 for text plus, 1 for GV and your reg cell plan...
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Vonage works like skype?? you need to buy credits to beable to make calls unless its to another vonage user??
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You do not need to buy credits to make outgoing calls (at least with my setup). I still have carrier service so when I first setup my Vonage app, they verified my mobile number by first sending a text message with a verification code. After entering the code, I can call anyone in my contact list and my mobile number will display on their caller ID. No credits or charges.
I imagine that without carrier service, you may be limited to only calling other Vonage users (like skype), but you would have to see for yourself as I still have carrier service.
I tried Google Voice with Groove-IP, Talkatone, Sip-Clients, and other imaginable setup. Ultimately, my family despised my shoddy/echo-y calls. I ended up porting my number away from Google Voice after 6 months. Then again, this was two years ago and at that time I was using a HTC Sensation, so your experience may be better than mine (especially with a Nexus 5).
Good luck!
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So you have 3 numbers? lol.. 1 for text plus, 1 for GV and your reg cell plan...
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Vonage works like skype?? you need to buy credits to beable to make calls unless its to another vonage user??
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Yeah but I don't use all of them obviously. My regular plan is unlimited everything through t-mobile. If I need to give out my number and don't really want to I give them my Google voice number. That why I can block out spam calls and set a blacklist easily through Google voice. Same thing for sales on Craigslist and such, filtered through gv. Textplus is like a semi emergency number. There's Internet everywhere and using otg I can even plug in an ethernet cable into my phone and call if I have no service.
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I use GVPhone - it uses Google Voice and calls straight through Wi-Fi for free without being connected to cellular. I installed GVPhone and Google Voice.
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ggillie said:
You do not need to buy credits to make outgoing calls (at least with my setup). I still have carrier service so when I first setup my Vonage app, they verified my mobile number by first sending a text message with a verification code. After entering the code, I can call anyone in my contact list and my mobile number will display on their caller ID. No credits or charges.
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Little confused... So it uses your mobile data to make calls using Vonage app and you can call mobiles and landlines for free, is this local or long distance also?
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Little confused... So it uses your mobile data to make calls using Vonage app and you can call mobiles and landlines for free, is this local or long distance also?
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Correct. I mainly use Vonage on WiFi as I have poor cell signal at my home. Domestic calls are free (local & long distance) but they have low rates on international calls if needed.
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Correct. I mainly use Vonage on WiFi as I have poor cell signal at my home. Domestic calls are free (local & long distance) but they have low rates on international calls if needed.
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And this free to call landlines and mobile phones??? hmm... is there a delay from when you speak and when the other person listens?
I was using Fongo app (dell voice before) and its was free to call local numbers.. thought I could live with it and just data only plan... the delay was so bad I gave up.. haha
ggillie said:
Correct. I mainly use Vonage on WiFi as I have poor cell signal at my home. Domestic calls are free (local & long distance) but they have low rates on international calls if needed.
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Only outgoing calls are free, correct?
Joshmccullough said:
Only outgoing calls are free, correct?
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You can only receive Vonage calls from other Vonage users who have dialed your username (not your mobile number) and those call are free.
I use Skype Out, works perfectly on wifi. Google voice is nice but it's blocked in China so that's a no go for me.
Fongo is another choice; you will get a real phone number, and make free land-line calls in Canada over WIFI.
or, for USA, try Pinger ?
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By service, I don't mean signal, I mean actual phone service.
For example, you don't pay your bill for a month and t-mo suspends your service, can you still use Wifi-Calling even though the service isn't on?
Just curious.
durps said:
By service, I don't mean signal, I mean actual phone service.
For example, you don't pay your bill for a month and t-mo suspends your service, can you still use Wifi-Calling even though the service isn't on?
Just curious.
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You can use something like grooveip. It's a voip that uses GV to connect the calls. I heard it works well, I dont use it. I use csipsimple which is more complex to set up that's why I recommended groove. I am able to make/place calls over wifi. the sim in the phone is deactivated. I actually use my g2x as my house phone. it operates purely on wifi calling. But if you're asking if you can use the built in app that you use with TMO now? No, you cant
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You can use something like grooveip. It's a voip that uses GV to connect the calls. I heard it works well, I dont use it. I use csipsimple which is more complex to set up that's why I recommended groove. I am able to make/place calls over wifi. the sim in the phone is deactivated. I actually use my g2x as my house phone. it operates purely on wifi calling. But if you're asking if you can use the built in app that you use with TMO now? No, you cant
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+1 on everything said above. WiFi calling checks your sim card to make sure you can access it since it uses your minutes.
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+1 on everything said above. WiFi calling checks your sim card to make sure you can access it since it uses your minutes.
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actually it doesnt use your minutes anymore
piimp said:
actually it doesnt use your minutes anymore
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Please don't give out any false info.. It does use your minutes unless you are on the even more plus plan, which then you already have unlimited minutes so it doesn't matter. If you are on a minute plan still it WILL indeed use your minutes.
GrooveIP is actually pretty good and does its job. Tried it out and while it did give a bit of echo for the other party and a bit of delay, it is indeed free.
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actually it doesnt use your minutes anymore
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Really? The app lies to us when it says it uses plan mins? lol....
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Please don't give out any false info.. It does use your minutes unless you are on the even more plus plan, which then you already have unlimited minutes so it doesn't matter. If you are on a minute plan still it WILL indeed use your minutes.
GrooveIP is actually pretty good and does its job. Tried it out and while it did give a bit of echo for the other party and a bit of delay, it is indeed free.
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You should also stop giving out false info. You don't have to be on an unlimited plan, you just need the free wifi calling service added to your line by either calling to chatting with a T-Mobile rep. I have it on both my lines on my family account and it doesn't charge me for my wifi calls. It's great because we only have 750 minutes to use between us.
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You should also stop giving out false info. You don't have to be on an unlimited plan, you just need the free wifi calling service added to your line by either calling to chatting with a T-Mobile rep. I have it on both my lines on my family account and it doesn't charge me for my wifi calls. It's great because we only have 750 minutes to use between us.
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+1 just call TMobile and they will add it to your account. I have four lines and they all have the free wifi calling service
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I can confirm the above two posters info. I have an Even More family plan and I have free WiFi calling.
Just added the free Wi-Fi calling to my account. Never knew about this until I saw this thread, thanks!
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Please don't give out any false info.. It does use your minutes unless you are on the even more plus plan, which then you already have unlimited minutes so it doesn't matter. If you are on a minute plan still it WILL indeed use your minutes.
GrooveIP is actually pretty good and does its job. Tried it out and while it did give a bit of echo for the other party and a bit of delay, it is indeed free.
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Lol, learn ur facts before u post. U have to call tmob to get it added to ur account, (doesnt matter what ur plan is) its free. I know when u turn it on it says it uses ur plan minutes bt if u have it added it doesnt.
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wpbcubsfan said:
You should also stop giving out false info. You don't have to be on an unlimited plan, you just need the free wifi calling service added to your line by either calling to chatting with a T-Mobile rep. I have it on both my lines on my family account and it doesn't charge me for my wifi calls. It's great because we only have 750 minutes to use between us.
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that is because you are calling t-mobile to t-mobile, so it don't use any min from your 750 plan. Try to call other carriers!
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Lol, learn ur facts before u post. U have to call tmob to get it added to ur account, (doesnt matter what ur plan is) its free. I know when u turn it on it says it uses ur plan minutes bt if u have it added it doesnt.
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It does matter what plan you have. I've called and chatted several times and they said I had to upgrade to one of the newer plans to get the feature. I'm on FamilyTime 700 with free myFaves.
I am with Mobilicity in Ontario which gives me unlimited local calling, text, and data when I am in one of their "unlimited zones" (major cities) but heading an hour or so out of the city I'm roaming. This doesn't pose to much of a problem for me as I live downtown and rarely leave Toronto, but I do have family and friends I visit from time to time that don't live within the "unlimited zone" which makes my phone useless to me.
From what I understand about GV and GrooveIP, it allows you to make free calls and text to anywhere in the US and Canada for free over 3G data and wifi, which is exactly what I need for when I'm not in the city. At first I thought I could use a US proxy to get a GV number then set up GrooveIP so when I am out of the unlimted zone I can still communicate over wifi using my GV number. The problem I realized is that no one I know in Canada is going to want to pay international call and text rates to reach me at a US GV number.
Is there some other free service available in Canada that allows me to send and receive texts and calls for free over wifi?
You can use grooveip in canada! I use it. Just get someone in states to make youan email and stuff. Then use it to login in canada. Ive been using it in canada for awhile now
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jark99 said:
You can use grooveip in canada! I use it. Just get someone in states to make youan email and stuff. Then use it to login in canada. Ive been using it in canada for awhile now
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You're right! It does work. I can even make long distance calls for free now too. Are you able to receive calls through grooveip without a google voice number? When making a call do you know what your caller id looks like to the other person? I assumed that Grooveip also supported sms but I see now that it doesn't. Is there an app with the same functionality as grooveip but for sending and recieving texts over wifi
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You're right! It does work. I can even make long distance calls for free now too. Are you able to receive calls through grooveip without a google voice number? When making a call do you know what your caller id looks like to the other person? I assumed that Grooveip also supported sms but I see now that it doesn't. Is there an app with the same functionality as grooveip but for sending and recieving texts over wifi
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When you call people it shows the US number i believe. Also i have never tried receiving calls because the ppl who would call you in canada would get charged for calling to the states as grooveip uses a US number.
For texting look up a few apps...i think textplus was one...but cant recall
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so let me get this straight if i buy grooveip
i can use my gvoice in canada and not get charged long distance?
im not sure how grooveip works sorry
how do you even get a google voice number in canada anyways?
belovedson said:
so let me get this straight if i buy grooveip
i can use my gvoice in canada and not get charged long distance?
im not sure how grooveip works sorry
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You have to have someone in US register you an email in the states. Then use that email to use groove ip!
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Use Fongo, which was previously Dell Voice, can let you make free Canada and US calls over wifi! The quality is even better than google voice, imo.
I want to switch to AT&T for the One X soon and am looking for ways to reduce my bill. I don't want to pay $20/mo for texting so using Google Voice is a good idea for that. I initially wanted to port my number to GV so that I wouldn't have to give people a new number, but after some testing I feel like the voice lag in calls through GV is a little too significant to use it for all my calls, so now I'm considering porting my number to AT&T like normal and using my separate GV number for texts.
I'd like to know what you guys do and how it works out for you.
Thanks.
Just keep in mind that GV texting doesn't support short codes, nor MMS (although Google said it is coming).
I'd switch to google voice full time if it had two features that it's currently missing. 1. Obviously mms. 2. Threaded group SMS (which I found out the One X doesnt support either)! I really miss group SMS coming from the iPhone as that's how I communicated with a bunch of my friends and colleagues.
Telling people to just email me is definitely worth the $20 savings...
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Google plus messenger?
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Google plus messenger?
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Not even sure what this means.
I am in the same boat and I had tried to use Google Voice. Does not work simply because the lack of a dedicated SMS agent.
I use text plus. Didn't want to pay 20 dollars
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Not even sure what this means.
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Google+ messenger. The stand alone messaging client for Google+.
I've been debating getting a new number through Google Voice and switching to that. Cutting the unlimited texting from my plan would sure be nice. I don't make more than 10-20 minutes in calls most months, so the latency issue is not major for me. I suspect it's related to the inherent latency on the 3G/HSPA network. I think this is one of the areas where LTE is supposed to be a major improvement over HSPA+. Has anybody tried GV over 3G and wifi/LTE. If so, was it any better?
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I am in the same boat and I had tried to use Google Voice. Does not work simply because the lack of a dedicated SMS agent.
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Can you explain what you mean by an "SMS agent"?
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Google+ messenger. The stand alone messaging client for Google+.
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Yea but isn't that like using Facebook messenger or whatsapp? It's not an SMS replacement unless everyone you text actually has it installed.
Pretty much. I'm not really sure how that works out as a replacement for a texting brand. Maybe they will elaborate.
I use Google Voice and save my money, not work the 20 bucks for MMS and short code. I fill in the blanks of those with twitter/facebook etc etc.
I have unlimited via a family unlimited plan.
EDIT: Can you use GV without a SIM? Like I have an account set up but I can't send SMS or Make calls on the One X at all. Am I doing something wrong or does it just not work that way?
I chose the unlimited text because that gives you unlimited mobile to mobile calls, any carrier.. That allowed me to drop down from unlimited minutes to 450 minutes with rollover. I'll never talk 450 minutes to a landline during peak i dont think. I dont know anybody with a landline, all mobile. That dropped the Minutes from $69 to $39. I', going to give it a try...We'll see
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I chose the unlimited text because that gives you unlimited mobile to mobile calls, any carrier.. That allowed me to drop down from unlimited minutes to 450 minutes with rollover. I'll never talk 450 minutes to a landline during peak i dont think. I dont know anybody with a landline, all mobile. That dropped the Minutes from $69 to $39. I', going to give it a try...We'll see
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Yeah, I'm used to having unlimited mobile to mobile on Sprint, but I think I can get by without it and still only 450 minutes. A lot of calls happen on nights and weekends, and then I can take advantage of the rollover (not sure how long those minutes last before expiring).
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I have unlimited via a family unlimited plan.
EDIT: Can you use GV without a SIM? Like I have an account set up but I can't send SMS or Make calls on the One X at all. Am I doing something wrong or does it just not work that way?
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You should be able to SMS through GV by just being on WiFi I think, but you won't be able to make calls without the SIM since it goes over the cell network and uses minutes like normal. However, if you use something like GrooVe IP, you should be able to make calls with just WiFi.
Unlimited text family plan for $20 FTW!
I'm going to be getting a new number with the T-Mobile $30/mo plan (please if someone can clarify the easiest way to get into this plan without getting a phone at Walmart and all I'd be grateful), and I'm interested in Google Voice. I think the features are cool, but I'm worried about how it would work with other people. Can it be set up so that -as far as everyone else is concerned- I have a 'normal' phone number, nothing weird like that they call me on one and I call from another one, etc?
Thanks
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I'm interested in Google Voice. I think the features are cool, but I'm worried about how it would work with other people. Can it be set up so that -as far as everyone else is concerned- I have a 'normal' phone number, nothing weird like that they call me on one and I call from another one, etc?
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Yes, absolutely. You may have to install the GV software from Google Play. Once configured people will only see your GV number (if that is what you want) and it will handle your texts also. Don't forget to switch your phone to your GV voice mail in case someone calls it directly.
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So how do I get started? I went to GV and selected new number, but how do I make that 100% my phone number? Do I just download the Google voice app? Will I still be able to place calls without data?
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adriangb said:
So how do I get started? I went to GV and selected new number, but how do I make that 100% my phone number? Do I just download the Google voice app? Will I still be able to place calls without data?
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Yes.
First,make sure you run through the GV settings online on your PC.
Next, download and configure the app for your device. Set it make all calls through GV. Will not use data as far as I know but you will see some funky numbers on your phone bill. GV uses other numbers to make the calls - totally transparent to usage except for the bill. Since most plans today include US wide calling this will not matter.
Not nearly as complicated as it sounds.
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Thanks a lot. Would you happen to know what the deal is with that T-Mobile plan? Maybe I should ask in the nexus 4 forums...
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Thanks a lot. Would you happen to know what the deal is with that T-Mobile plan? Maybe I should ask in the nexus 4 forums...
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No idea, sorry. I refuse to update my TMO plan. I have an old Fave5 plan and all the calls I make are to 1 number (my own GV number) and all the calls I get are from the same number (my own GV number) so I use zero minutes a month..
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Sounds like a good setup. I'm a data guy though, so this $30/mo plan is made for me, unlimited data (5gB @ '4G', then 2G), unlimited SMS, 100 minutes. Seems hard to acquire, unfortunately.
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I just bought a SIM card from their website (99 cents), cut it to micro-sim size using a $1 sticker as a guide, put it in the phone and it worked.
If you're confident with measuring things, you can get instructions to cut the SIM card without a guide. Otherwise, there's the sticker templates and also metal stamp cutters.
Wasn't hard at all - the SIM work-around is just if you have a micro-SD device.
I thought that it had to be activated with a phone bought on Wall Mart
PS: my GSII is a normal sim //oldschool
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It's either from WAL*MART or activated on a new account on-line - it's a little buried in the site, but should be around the monthly 4G stuff. They just can't give you it in stores.
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I live in Canada and going to Cuba. Is there an appz like Skype that I can use to call home free. They want like $3.50 a minute to call home.
wyrman said:
I live in Canada and going to Cuba. Is there an appz like Skype that I can use to call home free. They want like $3.50 a minute to call home.
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Skype? Viber?
If they use Skype too then it's free.
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Jiibus said:
If they use Skype too then it's free.
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I take it you have to have your data on as well?
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I take it you have to have your data on as well?
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sure, how else then?..
wireless or mobile network
wyrman said:
I live in Canada and going to Cuba. Is there an appz like Skype that I can use to call home free. They want like $3.50 a minute to call home.
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Try Magicjack or Talkatone. I have not used it but read it once on some forum. Search Play store by Free Calling Apps.
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Try Magicjack or Talkatone. I have not used it but read it once on some forum. Search Play store by Free Calling Apps.
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Thanks
Just checked out the prices for data in Cuba. Pretty steep.
wyrman said:
Just checked out the prices for data in Cuba. Pretty steep.
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Google Voice. I use it for calls to Ireland & Germany. It is .03 to .04 cents a minute & you can prepay amounts into your Google Voice account ahead of time in $10.00 increments. Sound quality is great, it will use your phone number for caller ID & you can get text messages to the number. Check it out.
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Google Voice. I use it for calls to Ireland & Germany. It is .03 to .04 cents a minute & you can prepay amounts into your Google Voice account ahead of time in $10.00 increments. Sound quality is great, it will use your phone number for caller ID & you can get text messages to the number. Check it out.
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This is a downloadable appz?
Why not just use Wifi with Skype, Viber, or even Facebook Messenger? As far as using your actual phone minutes rather than data, I guess Google Voice would be a good solution.
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Google Voice. I use it for calls to Ireland & Germany. It is .03 to .04 cents a minute & you can prepay amounts into your Google Voice account ahead of time in $10.00 increments. Sound quality is great, it will use your phone number for caller ID & you can get text messages to the number. Check it out.
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but for what? using google voice you should pay for mobile data + google voice
using Viber makes it cheaper. I used it many times, perfect.
As long as it hasn't changed since October 2012 just forget it. Cubacel is way too slow for any data connection and in three hotels I've been to (Varadero, Havanna and Pinar) they almost laughed at me asking for WiFi. 1h was 6 Dollars with super slow speed and crappy computers.
Just forget about internet and enjoy your stay.
BiznessMan said:
Why not just use Wifi with Skype, Viber, or even Facebook Messenger? As far as using your actual phone minutes rather than data, I guess Google Voice would be a good solution.
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Trying to get Wifi in Cuba could be a chore.
you can call landlines and mobiles through magicjack for free
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you can call landlines and mobiles through magicjack for free
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And I don't need data or Wifi?
DanVanDamn said:
As long as it hasn't changed since October 2012 just forget it. Cubacel is way too slow for any data connection and in three hotels I've been to (Varadero, Havanna and Pinar) they almost laughed at me asking for WiFi. 1h was Dollar with super slow speed and crappy computers.
Just forget about internet and enjoy your stay.
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lol..it is a whole different world in south america
Although Cuba is Central America, it definitely is.
We had this guide Leonardo, educated English teacher, who is playing around with his Blackberry he got as a gift. Only SMS and calls.
But...the whole country is way too interesting for playing around with your smartphone. You'd better take some extra SD-cards for your camera with you.