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UMA Wifi Calling

I hooked up my new MT4G to wifi and it prompted and notified me of wi-fi calling.
Take a look at the picture attached
Pretty sweet finally a android with wifi calling!!!
Edit: This is not uma

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excellent, wrong forum
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Wrong sub forum

I'm gonna go against the grain and say right forum.
Wrong descriptor though, it's not uma.

Technically it's not uma because it doesn't hand off to.and from the tower like blackberry... But I'm equally excited.. Tested and confirmed on mine as well
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motorjonny said:
Technically it's not uma because it doesn't hand off to.and from the tower like blackberry... But I'm equally excited.. Tested and confirmed on mine as well
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Sorry for the wrong sub forum post. OOPS I forgot where I was.
I was unsure of the cellular handoff. Has it been confirmed that it doesn't hand off?

stoute said:
Sorry for the wrong sub forum post. OOPS I forgot where I was.
I was unsure of the cellular handoff. Has it been confirmed that it doesn't hand off?
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Yes it has been. Can't find the source right now but Tmonews.com is where it was hottly discussed and proved to be right.

stoute said:
I hooked up my new MT4G to wifi and it prompted and notified me of wi-fi calling.
Take a look at the picture attached
Pretty sweet finally a android with UMA!!!
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Please stop calling this UMA. It's not the same thing at all.
Wi-fi calling is a clever way to push people on to their own wifi infrastructure. Rather than continue to use cell tower bandwidth, you use your own broadband connection for both data and voice traffic. The best part (for them) is you still use your minutes.
Most people never bother setting up wifi on their phone, because they simply don't have to. The mobile network is available 24x7, and wifi eats battery life. Now, get to charge you *and* get you off their network at the same time.
Brilliant strategy, but I'll pass - I'm not paying T-Mobile to use my own bandwidth.

You would if you were somewhere you didn't have coverage. Or even better if you were out of the country and wanted to call back to a US number and only use your normal minutes and not pay for international roaming.
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The app works great for me with crappy service in my house been waiting for it. Once you get close to the wifi range limit u get a pop-up warning you your call will be lost.

NexVision said:
The app works great for me with crappy service in my house been waiting for it. Once you get close to the wifi range limit u get a pop-up warning you your call will be lost.
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The only problem I had was whsn walking away from work or my house it would drop the call vs the hand off like the blackberrys uma calling feature.
I also think we are all aware this is not a true uma. I will try to edit my op to correct.
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Well if you do not want to use the service then dont or let me guess you are a Apple fanboy so will find something wrong with everything other than iPhone and ATT

I wonder if the txt messages will be routed via wifi as well ?

vikramdhani said:
I wonder if the txt messages will be routed via wifi as well ?
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i read through the frequent questions in the wifi calling app... Confirmed that it does send messages through wifi!

motorjonny said:
i read through the frequent questions in the wifi calling app... Confirmed that it does send messages through wifi!
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It is supposed to do mms sms calls as well as the usual internet and email.
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This is a great feature, i'm just confused why they wouldn't build it to allow it to seamlessly handoff to cell towers.

That would b a hardware requirement and raise the cost.
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dcam1075 said:
You would if you were somewhere you didn't have coverage. Or even better if you were out of the country and wanted to call back to a US number and only use your normal minutes and not pay for international roaming.
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I used WiFi overseas for calling on my BB, and TMo came after me with a bunch of international calling minutes anyway. So unless they have changed their policy - be careful.

gaww said:
I used WiFi overseas for calling on my BB, and TMo came after me with a bunch of international calling minutes anyway. So unless they have changed their policy - be careful.
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Were you calling US numbers?

gaww said:
I used WiFi overseas for calling on my BB, and TMo came after me with a bunch of international calling minutes anyway. So unless they have changed their policy - be careful.
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I used my BB overseas this summer, mobile network off, wifi on. No extra charges.

Tmobile free wifi calling

I just got off the phone with tmobile asking about the free wifi feature and they cleared up my confusion. They told me yes its free for users who don't have the features on there phones already. Us g2x users had that feature already so it was free for us to use. The actual mins are still taken away from our account as usual. But nights and weekend are free like normal contacts. You just get faster internet and clearer calls because your using your own wifi which is faster.
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wrong, i had tmobile earlier today add the unlimited wifi calling feature and now whatever minutes i use when im on wifi dont come off my bucket of 1500 anytime minutes. i checked my usage online and it shows as "hot spot minutes" and it says I have unlimited.

rhcpcjg said:
wrong, i had tmobile earlier today add the unlimited wifi calling feature and now whatever minutes i use when im on wifi dont come off my bucket of 1500 anytime minutes. i checked my usage online and it shows as "hot spot minutes" and it says I have unlimited.
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So what is it? BTW I never use my minutes fully and I share 700.
Who the heck are you guys calling?
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mr.orange303 said:
So what is it? BTW I never use my minutes fully and I share 700.
Who the heck are you guys calling?
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i called tmobile customer care, all i said was "i wanna add the unlimited wifi calling feature, i have a g2x" all the did was ask me an "e-911 address" and that was it..

Brand new as of today. I just got off the phone. You have to be on one of the current plans, my My Faves didn't qualify, and I would have to change plans. Bummer!
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I called customer care aswell. I guess I will try to call again.
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299792458 said:
Brand new as of today. I just got off the phone. You have to be on one of the current plans, my My Faves didn't qualify, and I would have to change plans. Bummer!
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Thats a bummer since i have myfavs. I guess i'll try anyways and see what happens.

wait.. are they charging to add the unlimited free wifi? They did somthing similar years ago with the first UMA blackberry on tmo. They called it @Home calling. it was 10 bucks a month and it allowed you unlimited wifi calling without using minutes.. The good part about it back then was if you made a call on wifi and went out of range it handed it off to 3g without disconnect but where ever your call originated that's how it got billed. So say you make a call on wifi and then go out of range and it switches to 3g it will still use wifi minutes because the call originated on wifi.. but same goes true for the other way. If you were on 3g and it switches to wifi then you still get minutes deducted. the tmo rep told me that when I signed up.. He was like "so if you know you're going to be on the phone for a really long time pop into a starbucks, get a uma connection, make the call and then leave. then you can talk when it switches back to 3g for free)
not sure if this is how they will do it this next time.. but that's how it worked the first time they tried this service

It's a free feature, i don't know if ill start using my minutes once the call transitions from wifi to the cell tower.
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I can't find the feature in the "add services" menu on the website, has nebody had luck adding it online or is it a by-phone only thing at this point?
also I believe I had read that there would be a text from T-Mobile announcing the change but I haven't gotten that text, has nebody else?
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I just called T-Mobile and was told it still deducts from your plan minutes.

So what's the point.
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I just called 4 times and spoke to 4 diffrent reps and they all told me NO its not free. Technically its free for us because our phones have the feature on the phone but the minutes are used like normal minutes. Nights and weekends free but peak hours are still taken away from your minutes. You will get better call quality and faster web using the wifi. All the reps wanted to activate this $10 charge but I just told them Im gonna pass. I didnt tell them Im using the service already through my G2X. I read the article on TMONews stating that it was free with unlimited mins but I guess they dont know about it yet. I dont know. If anyone has activated this feature with no problem can you write down the extention and name of the rep you spoke to so I can call them directly. Thanks

graffixnyc said:
wait.. are they charging to add the unlimited free wifi? They did somthing similar years ago with the first UMA blackberry on tmo. They called it @Home calling. it was 10 bucks a month and it allowed you unlimited wifi calling without using minutes.. The good part about it back then was if you made a call on wifi and went out of range it handed it off to 3g without disconnect but where ever your call originated that's how it got billed. So say you make a call on wifi and then go out of range and it switches to 3g it will still use wifi minutes because the call originated on wifi.. but same goes true for the other way. If you were on 3g and it switches to wifi then you still get minutes deducted. the tmo rep told me that when I signed up.. He was like "so if you know you're going to be on the phone for a really long time pop into a starbucks, get a uma connection, make the call and then leave. then you can talk when it switches back to 3g for free)
not sure if this is how they will do it this next time.. but that's how it worked the first time they tried this service
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this isnt uma(which can handoff between celltowers and wifi) if you walk out of range your call will drop

NOTE: You have to call T-Mobile to get the free wifi calling feature added to your account.
I called last night to add it to my current plan (1500 mins, unlim text, 5gb cap unlim data). The T-mobile service rep I spoke with spent 5 mins looking for that feature to add to my plan then found it. The last few days of wifi calling deducted mins from my plan (luckily it wasn't that much). I used the wifi calling because I thought it was free.
Wifi calling will not deduct from your airtime minutes ONLY if you call them and have it added to your plan if your plan allows it.

@ msage
I read about the text aswell. I wonder if the one guy who says had it activated got a text.
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To see if you are set up for free wifi calling go to the T Mobile app "My Account"
Click "Plan" on the very bottom right of your screen.
Under Plan & Services check the Additional Services
There you should see "Free Wi-Fi Calling $0.00
If you don't see it then you are not set up for it. Just because you hear that it is free it doesn't mean its really free. Its free after you call them and set it up.

Just tried this, but I don't know if I want to give up my myFaves preferred.

grenademasta said:
To see if you are set up for free wifi calling go to the T Mobile app "My Account"
Click "Plan" on the very bottom right of your screen.
Under Plan & Services check the Additional Services
There you should see "Free Wi-Fi Calling $0.00
If you don't see it then you are not set up for it. Just because you hear that it is free it doesn't mean its really free. Its free after you call them and set it up.
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Thanks. I looked there, didn't have it. Dialed 611 and had it turned on.

do i still get charged for roaming if i'm in canada and using wifi calling?

T-Mobile Free Unlimited Wi-Fi Calling for Even More / EM+ Plans

If you're on a Even More or Even More Plus plan (Postpaid) with a Wi-Fi calling capable handset, you'll have the feature of unlimited Wi-Fi calling for FREE (no deduction of minutes).
Apparently, doesn't work for grandfathered plans.
Call T-Mobile (or use Live Chat), they must add it to your line for it to work. Ask for it to be added to your line (Free Unlimited Wi-Fi calling), since it's a new feature (5/13), they might not know about it (have not been trained for it). If they don't know what you're talking about, tell them to try harder
1-800-TMOBILE
1-800-866-2453
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Live chat [t-mobile.com]
"Currently, placing calls over Wi-Fi deducts from a customer’s in-plan minutes. Effective 5/13, a new feature will launch that will allow customers with capable phones the ability to place calls over Wi-Fi without deducting from in-plan minutes! This is not only a great value, being FREE, but can help customers who experience coverage issues in areas that Wi-Fi is available."
You should be getting a text message about it according to T-Mobile, but if you're impatient...
-A Text Message (SMS) blast is planned to target customers with Wi-Fi Calling capable device to alert the customer of the availability of this free feature.
-The SMS will direct the customer to T-Mobile.com to add the feature. However, they may call Care instead. (I'm assuming they're referring to CS)
-This new feture is available to all Even more, Even More Plus, and 4G Do More rate plans for customers with Wi-Fi Calling capable devices.
Wi-Fi Calling works for:
Calls made from the US to US numbers
Calls made from the US to international numbers (subject to international rates) <-----Note
Calls made from outside the US to US numbers (not charged roaming) <---AKA (I can be in London connected through wi-fi and can call any US number for free without a deduction from my plan minutes)
Calls made from outside the US to international numbers (subject to international rates, but not charged roaming) <-----Note
as found via slickdeals.

just added this through online chat.
i dont really use wifi calling but doesnt hurt to have it right?

I also did this through online chat today. Went very smoothly and took maybe 10 minutes total. Thanks for the tip!

i just added it to both phone.... but some of the glacier roms dont have wifi native... where would i get the add on? the agent was checking my adress to see if i qualified for it? weird, i think if you are in a well known area of coverage they might try to avoid giving it to you? maybe not////////// what eva!!!!

did this earlier (before this was posted)...went without a hitch..great to have even though i dont even use 300min a month

thedude1313 said:
i just added it to both phone.... but some of the glacier roms dont have wifi native... where would i get the add on? the agent was checking my adress to see if i qualified for it? weird, i think if you are in a well known area of coverage they might try to avoid giving it to you? maybe not////////// what eva!!!!
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They have to input the address manually so that if you call 911 that the address you gave is the same one that shows up in their systems. Nothing to do with qualifying locations.

kalel33 said:
They have to input the address manually so that if you call 911 that the address you gave is the same one that shows up in their systems. Nothing to do with qualifying locations.
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oh i guess im justparanoid!!! next they will ne asking for a payment....man these people j/k

I wish I did it through chat. I called 611 and spent about 15-20 minutes on the phone explaining the press release. Not the operators fault. It's T-Mobile not alerting their customer support people of changes. A true pain in the ass.
Let's see how long it takes to activate.

just spoke to them. im on a cheaper grandfathered family plan. i do not qualify. you have to be on a current, non-grandfathered plan to get the free wifi calling.

acsi007 said:
just spoke to them. im on a cheaper grandfathered family plan. i do not qualify. you have to be on a current, non-grandfathered plan to get the free wifi calling.
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No, grandfathered plans just needs a different code.

I just finished with them online. They weren't going to add it, saying it didn't exist. Once I quoted their own press release they came back and said yes it is possible. Added it on my phone and my wife's! I'm wondering if it is a plan to reduce traffic on their networks?
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can someone please list the devices that are capable of UMA?

I spoke with chat and they, at first, didn't have any idea what I was referring to. I provided the press release to the rep and they were able to add free wifi calling to both my lines. They said it takes about 2 hours for the feature to kick in. When using it on the phone, the app will still say that minutes will be deducted however they assured me that they won't regardless.
Now I do have one question. Does this feature show up on my account under "services"?

I just called and was told that feature didn't exist. I tried tell the girl that it was new and read the release. She said that was a feature a few years ago but now it using plan minutes. I guess I'll call back and get someone else.

Way to go T-mo. Roll out a great new money saving feature and don't train your staff on it.

Unfortunately this doesn't work for us flexpay customers
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Also they are lies about their unlimited internet plan. After use 5gb they will slow the internet down cut off. Do you guys believe that they have truly unlimited internet plan?
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I called them and they said you have to pay for tethering in order to get it for free
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mytouch990 said:
Also they are lies about their unlimited internet plan. After use 5gb they will slow the internet down cut off. Do you guys believe that they have truly unlimited internet
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They call it unlimited because they don't charge per MB after you hit 5GB like other carriers do. I've been caped and it makes the phone almost worthless, but its better than paying 200$ because I went over plan.
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marseillesw said:
Unfortunately this doesn't work for us flexpay customers
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Well this sucks. I dont see how we are different from EM+ postpaid customers.

[Q] Wifi Calling, Free?

http://support.t-mobile.com/doc/tm24195.xml
Okay I'm having a hard time trying to understand this. So please help me figure it out. What I wanted to do was add an additional line for $10.00 and use Wi-Fi calling on it only. Will they still subtract it from my total minutes or is it free? If it helps I'm also on the Even More Family 1500 Unlimited Nights and Weekends plan.
EDIT: These calls are only going to be made INSIDE the US to another US cellphone/telephone number.

From the Website's FAQ:
How much does Wi-Fi Calling cost?
Wi-Fi Calling uses included minutes in your regular monthly plan and has no monthly cost.
So when you add that line and use the feature, it will use minutes the same way it would if you were using GSM. Also, the same settings for when you would call someone else over GSM, work over Wi-fi. You still get unlimited Nights and Weekends, and Mobile-to-Mobile calling on Wi-fi Calling.

I was on the phone w/ a rep and he said, "hey, you get this for free with the phone. you want me to add it on?" I said ya. So I got it for free. I don't understsand why you would have to pay $10?

schmit said:
I was on the phone w/ a rep and he said, "hey, you get this for free with the phone. you want me to add it on?" I said ya. So I got it for free. I don't understsand why you would have to pay $10?
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They just recently changed it from minutes to free. The ten bucks is the add a line fee.
Nonsense!

tackleberry said:
They just recently changed it from minutes to free. The ten bucks is the add a line fee.
Nonsense!
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So it's completely free now meaning I can call anyone in the US whenever I want over Wi-Fi and not use up any minutes?

tackleberry said:
They just recently changed it from minutes to free. The ten bucks is the add a line fee.
Nonsense!
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Do you have a link to some official statement regarding this. I'm not saying you're wrong, it's just that all their documentation still states it does use minutes, plus I just always like to see evidence

wi-fi calling it's just "reception" for you phone....THIS IS IT !
It just antenna from you wifi.
So everything the same...you pay how much you supposed to pay...

MWBehr said:
Do you have a link to some official statement regarding this. I'm not saying you're wrong, it's just that all their documentation still states it does use minutes, plus I just always like to see evidence
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http://gigaom.com/mobile/on-t-mobile-all-wi-fi-calls-are-free/

Ill still never use it. It sounds like crap. I removed the app from my phone.
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http://gigaom.com/mobile/on-t-mobile-all-wi-fi-calls-are-free/
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Good to know, thanks.

It is a great service if you have low or no service inside your home/business and have wifi avaliable there, good to keep just in case!

confused

when i change to wifi it displays *wi-fi calling uses plan minutes* so it means that im gonna be charge rite?.. even if i change to wi-fi i will still use everything as a regular phone?...

when u use the wifi-call, you will get better reception but you still use your minutes as usual.

shadydvl said:
when u use the wifi-call, you will get better reception but you still use your minutes as usual.
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Not if you call T-Mobile and have the Free Wifi Calling service added to your account. It will still say it charges you but rest assured, as long as you call or chat online with a customer service rep and have the service added, you won't be charged for wifi calls.

i have unlimited everything text,web,picture,phone,text

JUSMEJOSE said:
i have unlimited everything text,web,picture,phone,text
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if you have UNLIMITED EVERYTHING why are you worried about charges? LMBO plus T-Mobile announced a while back that wifi calling no longer uses plan minutes

wpbcubsfan said:
Not if you call T-Mobile and have the Free Wifi Calling service added to your account. It will still say it charges you but rest assured, as long as you call or chat online with a customer service rep and have the service added, you won't be charged for wifi calls.
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Actually it's not compatible with the older plans according to a couple CSRs that I chatted with online. They offered to change my plan to a newer one with which WiFi Calling would be free and unlimited. But of course they wanted a new 2 year agreement which I don't want to do.

shorty87 said:
Actually it's not compatible with the older plans according to a couple CSRs that I chatted with online. They offered to change my plan to a newer one with which WiFi Calling would be free and unlimited. But of course they wanted a new 2 year agreement which I don't want to do.
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That's not how it's supposed to work. I'm still on the plan I had with my G1 (3 phones ago) and all they had to do is add it as an extra service. They did it to both phones on my family plan even though the other phone doesn't have wifi calling. It shows up on my bill as "Free Wifi Calling".
Although it's a free service, you HAVE to have them add it to your account or you won't have free wifi calling, it'll count against your minutes.