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[Q] Nexus S on WIFI only?

I have the TMobile NS, and having WIFI at home and at work and only using less than 1hr of my voice minutes a month, I am considering cancelling my Tmobile account all together. I already use a Google Voice number for text, and with GV and the Groove IP app, I've been making calls over WIFI without hassle. Do any of you guys on here use your NS WIFI only?
Also, with Google Wallet coming out (I know not for the TMobile NS yet), would I be able to still use GW without any network connection? I'm hoping you guys know the details on GW though it's still new. But I would think with your card info stored on the phone, the phone could still send the card info via NFC to the merchants device, and the merchants device is what get approval for the transaction, hopefully meaning I wouldn't need to be on a network.
Thanks
-Bryan

th3temp said:
I have the TMobile NS, and having WIFI at home and at work and only using less than 1hr of my voice minutes a month, I am considering cancelling my Tmobile account all together. I already use a Google Voice number for text, and with GV and the Groove IP app, I've been making calls over WIFI without hassle. Do any of you guys on here use your NS WIFI only?
Also, with Google Wallet coming out (I know not for the TMobile NS yet), would I be able to still use GW without any network connection? I'm hoping you guys know the details on GW though it's still new. But I would think with your card info stored on the phone, the phone could still send the card info via NFC to the merchants device, and the merchants device is what get approval for the transaction, hopefully meaning I wouldn't need to be on a network.
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-Bryan
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I would recommend looking at T-Mobile prepaid options (I'm guessing you are on postpaid right now?). They offer several rather cheap options, and this would at least give you the ability to make calls if you need to when you don't have wifi.
I originally was going to try to go with T-Mobile prepaid, and use wifi for most of my minutes / texts, but I ended up getting a great deal from a local carrier with unlimited data, texting, and 200 minutes for $20 a month (+tax). I use groove ip whenever I am on wifi, and I haven't had any issues keeping under 200 minutes (with no nights / weekends).
I doubt that you can use google wallet without a data connection, but I am just guessing.

xur17 said:
I doubt that you can use google wallet without a data connection, but I am just guessing.
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Honestly, I don't know if it would need a data connection. Your credit card doesn't have a data connection, right? It'd be interesting to have one of the NS4G users throw their phone into airplane mode and try using Google Wallet.

tehgeekguy said:
It'd be interesting to have one of the NS4G users throw their phone into airplane mode and try using Google Wallet.
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Engadget already confirmed this works:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/09/19/a-week-with-google-wallet-video/
"Though you'll need to be connected to the network to add or fund a card, you can still make payments while offline. We made purchases using the prepaid card while in Airplane mode, for example. Since the device is only responsible for storing your card information (transactions are processed in the cloud), you don't need to be online to use it."

Google wallet will not show the correct balance after a purchase until you connect to the internet again.
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I am an only Wifi nexus s user too.
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Also consider a data only plan (a la tablet/stick SIM). With the right ROM your GV and SIP work just peachy.

tehgeekguy said:
Honestly, I don't know if it would need a data connection. Your credit card doesn't have a data connection, right? It'd be interesting to have one of the NS4G users throw their phone into airplane mode and try using Google Wallet.
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It works without data. I've tried it. The only time you need data is to add funds to your Google prepaid account but if you use a regular citi card you don't need it. You will for initial setup but after that you don't.
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voice mail

Ok, I have a question. My daughter has an iPhone and I was helping her set up her email on it when she got a phone call during the process. I did not answer it, but when they left a message I was very impressed by the way the iPhone displayed the message on the phone. there was actually a list of all of her v-mails and it listed who they were from and what not.
I am sure we do and I just don't know it, but do we have anything like this?

There are a few apps out there, but many will probably recommend using google voice and activating the voicemail transcribe feature.

Isn't that Visual Voicemail? If so AT&T charges extra for it.

Truckerglenn said:
Isn't that Visual Voicemail? If so AT&T charges extra for it.
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Yeah I think your right.
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joeclark said:
Ok, I have a question. My daughter has an iPhone and I was helping her set up her email on it when she got a phone call during the process. I did not answer it, but when they left a message I was very impressed by the way the iPhone displayed the message on the phone. there was actually a list of all of her v-mails and it listed who they were from and what not.
I am sure we do and I just don't know it, but do we have anything like this?
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That is called Visual Voicemail. AT&T had this set up exclusively for iPhone since iPhone's inception into AT&T, and to make data mandatory. They haven't expanded to other phones, yet.

Google voice can do something like this, and it doesn't set the popup in the middle of the screen, it shows up in the dropdown bar.
I'll post a pic shortly.
What you are looking for?

Google voice is free for voicemail. I use it. AT&T does have a visual voicemail option that you can add to your plan, but why do that when GVoice is free. (Note: I am using CM7, so idk what difference it'll make if you are on a stock ROM)

there is visual voicemail on the newest phones as far as what I've heard. Google voice is free and att doesn't surcharge for forwarded calls. att isn't so bad. for the money you get coverage and little perks like this. try Google voice on sprint see what the phone bill comes out to be with all the forwarded calls.

Thank you all! That is pretty much what I am looking for.
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Dani897 said:
there is visual voicemail on the newest phones as far as what I've heard. Google voice is free and att doesn't surcharge for forwarded calls. att isn't so bad. for the money you get coverage and little perks like this. try Google voice on sprint see what the phone bill comes out to be with all the forwarded calls.
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Funny thing is that we have Sprint Voicemail. It's an app that downloads the voicemails to your phone and uses the data of your phone. but rememember, I have unlimited data so it works perfect. It's included in the unlimited data. plus, forwarding is including in most of the plans. So, if you're on Sprint, there's no need for GVoice.

Poll: What is your texting plan/service?

I want to switch to AT&T for the One X soon and am looking for ways to reduce my bill. I don't want to pay $20/mo for texting so using Google Voice is a good idea for that. I initially wanted to port my number to GV so that I wouldn't have to give people a new number, but after some testing I feel like the voice lag in calls through GV is a little too significant to use it for all my calls, so now I'm considering porting my number to AT&T like normal and using my separate GV number for texts.
I'd like to know what you guys do and how it works out for you.
Thanks.

Just keep in mind that GV texting doesn't support short codes, nor MMS (although Google said it is coming).

I'd switch to google voice full time if it had two features that it's currently missing. 1. Obviously mms. 2. Threaded group SMS (which I found out the One X doesnt support either)! I really miss group SMS coming from the iPhone as that's how I communicated with a bunch of my friends and colleagues.

Telling people to just email me is definitely worth the $20 savings...
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Google plus messenger?

Cryosx said:
Google plus messenger?
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Not even sure what this means.

I am in the same boat and I had tried to use Google Voice. Does not work simply because the lack of a dedicated SMS agent.

I use text plus. Didn't want to pay 20 dollars
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NextNexus said:
Not even sure what this means.
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Google+ messenger. The stand alone messaging client for Google+.
I've been debating getting a new number through Google Voice and switching to that. Cutting the unlimited texting from my plan would sure be nice. I don't make more than 10-20 minutes in calls most months, so the latency issue is not major for me. I suspect it's related to the inherent latency on the 3G/HSPA network. I think this is one of the areas where LTE is supposed to be a major improvement over HSPA+. Has anybody tried GV over 3G and wifi/LTE. If so, was it any better?

lilhyper said:
I am in the same boat and I had tried to use Google Voice. Does not work simply because the lack of a dedicated SMS agent.
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Can you explain what you mean by an "SMS agent"?

mesasone said:
Google+ messenger. The stand alone messaging client for Google+.
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Yea but isn't that like using Facebook messenger or whatsapp? It's not an SMS replacement unless everyone you text actually has it installed.

Pretty much. I'm not really sure how that works out as a replacement for a texting brand. Maybe they will elaborate.

I use Google Voice and save my money, not work the 20 bucks for MMS and short code. I fill in the blanks of those with twitter/facebook etc etc.

I have unlimited via a family unlimited plan.
EDIT: Can you use GV without a SIM? Like I have an account set up but I can't send SMS or Make calls on the One X at all. Am I doing something wrong or does it just not work that way?

I chose the unlimited text because that gives you unlimited mobile to mobile calls, any carrier.. That allowed me to drop down from unlimited minutes to 450 minutes with rollover. I'll never talk 450 minutes to a landline during peak i dont think. I dont know anybody with a landline, all mobile. That dropped the Minutes from $69 to $39. I', going to give it a try...We'll see

nugzo said:
I chose the unlimited text because that gives you unlimited mobile to mobile calls, any carrier.. That allowed me to drop down from unlimited minutes to 450 minutes with rollover. I'll never talk 450 minutes to a landline during peak i dont think. I dont know anybody with a landline, all mobile. That dropped the Minutes from $69 to $39. I', going to give it a try...We'll see
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Yeah, I'm used to having unlimited mobile to mobile on Sprint, but I think I can get by without it and still only 450 minutes. A lot of calls happen on nights and weekends, and then I can take advantage of the rollover (not sure how long those minutes last before expiring).
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I have unlimited via a family unlimited plan.
EDIT: Can you use GV without a SIM? Like I have an account set up but I can't send SMS or Make calls on the One X at all. Am I doing something wrong or does it just not work that way?
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You should be able to SMS through GV by just being on WiFi I think, but you won't be able to make calls without the SIM since it goes over the cell network and uses minutes like normal. However, if you use something like GrooVe IP, you should be able to make calls with just WiFi.

Unlimited text family plan for $20 FTW!

[Q] Verizon Galaxy Tab 7.7 incoming phone calls?

Hi,
Using Google Voice and Groove IP, I am able to place ourgoing calls with no problem.
Is there a way or a setting that I don't see that would allow incoming phone calls as well. When I dial the google # from a standard cell phone, it goes right to VM.
Any help would be most appreciated.

Access Google voice with a browser. login and under settings add Google chat as another forwarding line. Then edit your forwarded mobile phone number and under advanced settings have Google voice ring your other lines if it can't reach your mobile phone. Now when someone calls your mobile number and u don't pick up, it will ring your tablet.

Should have gotten an international voice+3g tab, much better than going through all these steps. just saying.....
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I realize most everyone on here tries to find a work around from having to pay for anything.. but in this case why not just make it easy on yourself and use Skype? I have been paying VZW 100.00 per month, 1200.00 per year! for my smart phone for about 6yrs but recently suspended it in favor of trying something different.
I got the idea when I had my Xoom and and it worked so well that I sold that and recently purchased the much lighter, pocketable, portable Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.7
I still pay VZW 30.00 for a 2GB data plan per month but Id have to pay that with my smart phone anyway.. I then use (free) google voice for all my text and pay a subscription to Skype of 2.99per month or 30.00 for the whole year for unlimited calls.. I also purchased a number from them which is another 30.00 per year so people can call me. So it comes out to under 70.00 for the whole year! rather than 1200.00
I know that may not work for everyone.. it's not ideal having to use two different numbers and if your data strength is so so it may not work so well.. I also know there are probably many many other ways to do this.. but for me I don't think 70.00 per year is a lot to pay plus the convenience of not having to set much up totally works for me..

@bioshock22, you can achieve what you just described using what OP is using... And you don't pay the $70/yr. GrooveIP/Google voice gives you a free phone number of your choice and free unlimited incoming / outgoing calls to any US/Canadian number. OP has a single phone number for texting and calls all for free. He just pays verizon for the data plan.
@aximtreo, I don't have a forwarding number enabled for Google voice. I just have Google chat checked for forwarding so I can receive calls on the tablet.
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As I said in my post I am sure there are many many ways to do this but for me it is all about convenience.. I have no desire to spend a whole day looking through hundreds of these forum posts reading what app this guy recommends only to have another guy say this one is better or this one is better or this one is better.. THEN have to figure out how to forward from google voice, google talk, google this, google that etc. etc.
Like Denzel say's in the movie Philadelphia.. "Explain it to me like I'm a four-year-old"
Rarely does anyone ever do that on here.. everyone assumes you already have an idea what to do so if you don't you better free up a whole day because you'll be spending that time digging through post, after post, after post..

interesting thread. been thinking about this for weeks.
what I wonder is whether anyone is making use of their bluetooth headsets? can calls from either skype or gvoice/grooveip be initiated and answered this way? if yes, I'm almost sure to give up my cellphone entirely! otherwise, I don't think I'd like holding up a 7.7 inch tab up to my noggin like I would my smartphone.

ZenNook said:
interesting thread. been thinking about this for weeks.
what I wonder is whether anyone is making use of their bluetooth headsets? can calls from either skype or gvoice/grooveip be initiated and answered this way? if yes, I'm almost sure to give up my cellphone entirely! otherwise, I don't think I'd like holding up a 7.7 inch tab up to my noggin like I would my smartphone.
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I'm using an international version though, but skype works through bluetooth dunno if you can initiate it though.

I have purchased the wifi 10.1, should I have gotten a carrier operated one?

Ok so Ive purchased the wifi operated one for my pops. Hes old and is always back and forth on his microsoft laptop so I figured this would make things a lot easier for him. He likes it so far. He currently has a verizon flip phone that is hooked up on Page Plus. Im not sure how the carrier operated ones work or what they do, can someone explain so I can have a better understanding so I then can figure out if I should return and get him the carrier operated one.
1) Im assuming you can pop a sim card in and pay for a plan but can you make phone calls like a cell phone?
2) is this wifi tablet that he currently have able to make wifi calls atleast?
3) I cant talk him into a smartphone so he will probably never make calls with a carrier based tablet, but he may want to have a data connection continuously when out and about. So im guessing getting a carrier based one would be necessary for this.
4) again, he has a verizon flip phone running on page plus which uses verizons towers, do they make a samsung verizon galaxy tab 2 or just sprint and at&t?
5) I was also considering the galaxy tablet note but baby steps for the old man lol....but I thought he might use the tv/tablet function.......but probably not, too much explaining lol
Any info to clear some things up would be great please.....I only have 15 days to return it.
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TheKid1 said:
Ok so Ive purchased the wifi operated one for my pops. Hes old and is always back and forth on his microsoft laptop so I figured this would make things a lot easier for him. He likes it so far. He currently has a verizon flip phone that is hooked up on Page Plus. Im not sure how the carrier operated ones work or what they do, can someone explain so I can have a better understanding so I then can figure out if I should return and get him the carrier operated one.
1) Im assuming you can pop a sim card in and pay for a plan but can you make phone calls like a cell phone?
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No, these are not phones, with a carrier operated on you can send text. But you can download a app called TextMe so send text free using wifi or data.
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2) is this wifi tablet that he currently have able to make wifi calls atleast?
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It could but it wasn't deigned for that, but at least the GT2 has front speakers. I did it once, but it was hard on the people I called to hear me.
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3) I cant talk him into a smartphone so he will probably never make calls with a carrier based tablet, but he may want to have a data connection continuously when out and about. So im guessing getting a carrier based one would be necessary for this.
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Yes it would, other wise he has to be close to a wifi to surf the web, but wifi is in a lot of places, it would depend how good is he at connecting to other wifi's.
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4) again, he has a verizon flip phone running on page plus which uses verizons towers, do they make a samsung verizon galaxy tab 2 or just sprint and at&t?l
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I believe Verizon has the GT2 too. I know they have the original because I just sold mine.
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5) I was also considering the galaxy tablet note but baby steps for the old man lol....but I thought he might use the tv/tablet function.......but probably not, too much explaining lol
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I love my GT2 10.1" It's connected to AT&T because that is my carrier. The Verizon one I have cost me $30 a month. (I think they got rid of the tab only plan and jammed shared data down their customers throat. So it cost $40 a month.
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Any info to clear some things up would be great please.....I only have 15 days to return it.
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Hope I was able to answer some questions for you.

Oditius said:
No, these are not phones, with a carrier operated on you can send text. But you can download a app called TextMe so send text free using wifi or data.
It could but it wasn't deigned for that, but at least the GT2 has front speakers. I did it once, but it was hard on the people I called to hear me.
Yes it would, other wise he has to be close to a wifi to surf the web, but wifi is in a lot of places, it would depend how good is he at connecting to other wifi's.
I believe Verizon has the GT2 too. I know they have the original because I just sold mine.
I love my GT2 10.1" It's connected to AT&T because that is my carrier. The Verizon one I have cost me $30 a month. (I think they got rid of the tab only plan and jammed shared data down their customers throat. So it cost $40 a month.
Hope I was able to answer some questions for you.
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Yea man, thanks a lot. So basically if I did decide to get the verizon one, he may be able to use his same plan for data?
And while we are on the subject, how the heck do I get his contact off his senior flip phone to a new google account? If he still had verizon, they woukd be synced with verizon and I can grab the .csv file from there site and import in google, but now that he has page plus(verizon towers still), im not sure if he can access the verizon backup site...is there another way without inputting manually?
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The international unlocked P3100 version has phone call feature. I'm debating getting this tablet for that feature since my Nexus 7 3G doesn't have it, but there's seems to be less development and the spec and screen resolution isn't as good. Although I do like having microSD slot since even the 32GB on the Nexus 7 isn't enough to hold my craps. People must like this thing a lot since I can't even find used ones for sale. Wouldn't mine more feedbacks from P3100 owners.
Also I'm confused about the carrier bands of this model, GSMArena posted:
HSDPA 900 / 2100 - GT-P3100
HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 - GT-P3105
However I read the contrary from Amazon reviews. Can someone confirm does the P3100 version work with ATT and/or TMobile 3G? Otherwise I'll have to pass on it.
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Yea man, thanks a lot. So basically if I did decide to get the verizon one, he may be able to use his same plan for data?
And while we are on the subject, how the heck do I get his contact off his senior flip phone to a new google account? If he still had verizon, they woukd be synced with verizon and I can grab the .csv file from there site and import in google, but now that he has page plus(verizon towers still), im not sure if he can access the verizon backup site...is there another way without inputting manually?
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I don't know about Page Plus, and how they operate. Sounds like a prepaid account. I only use post paid, because even though prepaid my be cheap for the individual, it could get pricey for a family plan. Personally I think you should have him check out the Note 2. It is big, I owned it for a while, but if I wanted a big phone I could use as a tablet (It even comes with a S-Pen) I would use it. I am not sure how Verizon handles the contacts.

If the flip phone has something called send vcard you can do that with his contacts and then in his google account on a computer import the vcards to his contacts,I did it with my work phone they supplied me
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Oditius said:
I don't know about Page Plus, and how they operate. Sounds like a prepaid account. I only use post paid, because even though prepaid my be cheap for the individual, it could get pricey for a family plan. Personally I think you should have him check out the Note 2. It is big, I owned it for a while, but if I wanted a big phone I could use as a tablet (It even comes with a S-Pen) I would use it. I am not sure how Verizon handles the contacts.
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Yea maybe once he gets used to the way the android system works he will make the switch, but he may hate it cause of the battery on these smartphones.
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If the flip phone has something called send vcard you can do that with his contacts and then in his google account on a computer import the vcards to his contacts,I did it with my work phone they supplied me
Ok, ill check it out. Im not sure what vcard is. If I do find it in his phone, where woukd it be located? Is it software or is it an actual sd card or something. Once found do u need to plug the phone into a pc, not sure if he has data plan on his phone to send wirelessly. Thanks guys.
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Got it to work using blue tooth. Sent the contacts right to my phone, synced to google, then signed in to google on the tablet and it worked like a charm.....nice. Pops is chillen now. Oh and I got it to send and receive calls on wifi.....the speakers work pretty good when on a call and quality is reasonable on both ends of call.
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