Otg and kitkat - Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

So I'm on kitkat, all is wonderful, but today I just tried to connect my sdcard by otg like I use to do on jelly bean, but I noticed the phone never detect the device and don't send power to the sdcard reader
I also tried with the powered otg cable ( y cable) But The problem persist, so I'm wondering if kitkat update cut off the otg support?
Hope you can check on your devices to see if the problem is only on my end.
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It 's a known fact that KK dropped the native OTG support. You can still use it with third party app like e.g. Stickmount.
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Yep working with stickmount, thanks for the advice
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Usb OTG

How to use usb otg in stock rom/kernel????
NEW TO THIS PHONE
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impossible i think , it needs to be merged , but not in stock ROM/kernel
even with 3rd part kernel , you still need some cable special i think

[Q] Is possible ENABLE USB OTG on Photon Q

Can we ENABLE USB OTG on our Photon Q
I want to reading USB Drive on Photon Q, like on my Mini Pro
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Can we ENABLE USB OTG on our Photon Q
I want to reading USB Drive on Photon Q, like on my Mini Pro
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I have the same question im thinking of buying a Photon Q
Im also really interested in how you think the photon Q compares to the best phone iv ever had (the mini pro)
I am running cm 10.2 it works fine.
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Can anyone confirm this works with the stock Jelly Bean ROM?
Would prefer not to waste the money on an unneeded cable if it doesn't.
rbeavers said:
I am running cm 10.2 it works fine.
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Its possible then :good: thanks for confirming
Coucher said:
Can anyone confirm this works with the stock Jelly Bean ROM?
Would prefer not to waste the money on an unneeded cable if it doesn't.
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It is working on stock JellyBean. But for me only 1 of 10 USB drives is working. There is somewhere thread with more info.
Is it a voltage problem? Did the leds light up on the nonworking thumb drives?
I use two USB3 8 & 16 gigs one fat32 and the other nfts.
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The stock firmware is set up to mount external USB disks that are connected via external USB hub.
For CM, I've made a change so it works when connected straight via OTG cable - https://github.com/razrqcom-dev-tea...mmit/cd3c5915f646c6ff34771d0ba39209db1911c130
So on stock, the few USB disks that work without additional USB hub between the phone and the USB disk are the ones that implement their own internal USB hub.

8013 PROBLEM with OTG usb on Jelly Bean

Many of us with JB and 8013's are not able to us OTG devices on our Notes. I tested it yesterday with three different ROMS and none of them supported it. While on 4.0.4(ICS) everything was fine, not one issue. Are there any Devs that could help with this as I am not knowledgeable enough to do it. Thanks a lot!
Yes please, if one understand the working of the otg usb please help us.
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mauricewal said:
Yes please, if one understand the working of the otg usb please help us.
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would you guys mind telling me what JB rom you are using?
thanks, Dammitcubs
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would you guys mind telling me what JB rom you are using?
thanks, Dammitcubs
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Tried These-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2027604- DOES NOT WORK ANYMORE
Also Tried ROMN8000 DR AKRIM ROM N8000XXBLJ9 v06 27112012 Jelly Bean NO GO HERE EITHER
I also tried a stock JB update from Germany, NO GO EITHER.
so for me anything JB related stops OTG from working.
shrek4224 said:
Tried These-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2027604- DOES NOT WORK ANYMORE
Also Tried ROMN8000 DR AKRIM ROM N8000XXBLJ9 v06 27112012 Jelly Bean NO GO HERE EITHER
I also tried a stock JB update from Germany, NO GO EITHER.
so for me anything JB related stops OTG from working.
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Well, I know you guys want OTG. I was just asking in general. I just wanted a stock JB Rom that is compatible with 8013. I won't be using OTG. Hmmmm stock JB update from Germany....i should try that.
i have an otg cable on the way, so I'll experiment when it arrives.
DammitCubs said:
Well, I know you guys want OTG. I was just asking in general. I just wanted a stock JB Rom that is compatible with 8013. I won't be using OTG. Hmmmm stock JB update from Germany....i should try that.
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Try team Union ROM.
Apart from OTG problem its great.
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mauricewal said:
Try team Union ROM.
Apart from OTG problem its great.
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What are the advantages of using a OTG instead of the micro USB? So you can attach like flash thumb drives?
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What are the advantages of using a OTG instead of the micro USB? So you can attach like flash thumb drives?
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Otg gives you a supported usb drive.
So you can attach usb keyboard, usb mouse and a flash drive.
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mauricewal said:
Otg gives you a supported usb drive.
So you can attach usb keyboard, usb mouse and a flash drive.
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or a game pad.
or a umts modem... which is the problem:
I did look at the dmesg output, when I was under ICS mostly because of the current consumption, but also looking for the IR port.
I see now a big difference there, using the German JB 8000 Rom with the 8010 files.
Somewhat (perhaps a Init script) does load the OTG usb kernel modules, then load a usb modem (mif related to umts) and after a while there is a termination of a certain unknown pid, probably because of the modem not responding, which is then unloaded and also does switch off that OTG usb port and unload it's k. modules. Seconds later the whole thing is repeated again and again...
Surely also a reason why it's consuming more power, and probably the reason why other OTG devices have troubles.
I would like to help, but I don't know how android works on that (kernel) level, I had some knowledge about usb on linux 5 years ago, so I don't know how it has evolved.
If someone of you, Dear Rom Backers, could lead me to some (hardcore) knowledge about the whole startup(/wake) process.
I could investigate a bit more.
Other problem I did encounter with JB, somewhere a memory leak, my RAM slowly does fill up in a way, where I can't reset it, without rebooting.
OK I have my otg cable now, and can see the problem, but not the cause.
When I get near to something that can adb in I'll have a look, if anyones' got any pastebins of dmesg and logcat in the meantime please let me know.
you kidding me otg cables stop working on jellybean ¬_¬ how on earth am i going to play gta 3 now
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you kidding me otg cables stop working on jellybean ¬_¬ how on earth am i going to play gta 3 now
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this is using the 8000 rom on 8013 and 8010 devices, no idea if the issue is on 8000 devices, or whether it will be there on the 8010/13 firmware.
fards said:
this is using the 8000 rom on 8013 and 8010 devices, no idea if the issue is on 8000 devices, or whether it will be there on the 8010/13 firmware.
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maybe it's conflict because people are flashing firmware that is not supported on their tablet, i sure hope that is the case.
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maybe it's conflict because people are flashing firmware that is not supported on their tablet, i sure hope that is the case.
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Absolutely. I have an N8000 using the correct official N8000 JB firmware for the device and USB works perfectly. That's why there are different firmware versions for different devices - simple.
I have a small unpowered USB hub attached to a cheap generic USB OTG connector. I am typing this using a USB wireless keyboard and mouse and I have a Note 10.1 with 160GB of storage. 32Gb internal - 64gb using internal micro-SDXC card and 64gb with a second micro-SDXC in a micro reader attached to the hub (seen as a usb drive 1 so presumably can add more). That's 160gb seamlessly available in all programs for Video, Music, documents and whatever. Eat you heart out fruit-boys!!
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Absolutely. I have an N8000 using the correct official N8000 JB firmware for the device and USB works perfectly. That's why there are different firmware versions for different devices - simple.
I have a small unpowered USB hub attached to a cheap generic USB OTG connector. I am typing this using a USB wireless keyboard and mouse and I have a Note 10.1 with 160GB of storage. 32Gb internal - 64gb using internal micro-SDXC card and 64gb with a second micro-SDXC in a micro reader attached to the hub (seen as a usb drive 1 so presumably can add more). That's 160gb seamlessly available in all programs for Video, Music, documents and whatever. Eat you heart out fruit-boys!!
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LOL that is overkill but cool, nice one.
Otg seems to be working fine on the dbt n8010 rom
Typed this using mele f10 connected with its usb dongle, and transferred some files from a usb stick
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For those running one of the N8000 roms on your N8010, try this:
Kernel extracted from zip posted here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2045751
Kernel has insecure boot.
Kernel Download link: https://www.dropbox.com/s/3en4hhdv08n7rsb/N8010_JB_Kernel.zip
Thanks to alirey for uploading the original OTA update zip
Thanks to graffixnyc for uploading zip with system.img and boot.img
Thanks to dsixda kitchen for insecure boot added to kernel.
May also work on 8013 as well.
Is it fixed in 8010 wifi release.
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Usb power hub and WD HD...

Hey guys..
I have a WD 1tb HD which iz self powered...
I want to use it with my tab 2 p3100
I understand that tab cannot supply enough power to the self powered HD..
I have made a Y-cable for the purpose...
The HD lights up and vibrates indicating that its receiving power but unfortunately it doesn't show up on the tab..
Then I felt the cable might be the reason and I brought a usb power hub...
Its exactly the same situation with the usb power hub as well..
Plze help me out with getting my HD work with the tablet...
I have searched a lot but couldn't get a proper way to get things going...
My tab iz rooted with sungsonic hd v2 running...
USB power hub iz iball lappie...
WD HD uses usb 3 but tab doesn't recognize it with usb 2 cable as well..
Share it if u know it...
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Is ur hardisk formated to fat32 or ntfs becase iknow tablets does not recognise ntfs out of the box
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Its exFat..
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But I have ntfs mount app
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Tried format it to a filesystem the tab can read natively FAT32 ?
BTW, this is 7.7 forum.....
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Arobase40 said:
You need whether the official Samsung OTG Dongle (expensive) or a OTG Cable you can find almost every where for some buks (Amazon, eBay, ...).
The standard charging Samsung cable is not compatible !
You also need the Y cable if you use a high power/capacity devices you can plug on any USB port such as a Laptop or on the main power supplier if you use a power USB hub that allow it.
Then you need an application that support Fatx, NTFS, and/or HFS such as the Paragon apps (free of charge).
Support for EXT3/EXT4 is another matter as I couldn't find a working one when I was using ICS 4.0.4, but I didn't retried since I'm using Jelly Bean. Maybe there are working now ??? ^^
You can use the same OTG cable to plug any USB keyboard/mouse or any other USB devices if the ROM do support them, or if you use a custom ROM that do support them...
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OTG Cable : check
Y Cable : check
Paragon apps : check
HD working :-[
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CLOSE THE THREAD..
ops srry, wrng section
I'm using from my tab and in hurry read the tab but not 7.7 :silly:
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Arobase40 said:
Whatever the Galaxy tab version, the principle and spares are exactly the same ... ^^
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Not necessarily.....
Needed hardware and drivers may be different or lacking.
USB support is defined within the kernel drivers. Native support may be different between Android devices and firmware.
For example, the P6800 4.1.2 JB supports USB for iPhone_4S, P6810 ICS does not. (Only up to iPhone_4)
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As I said, it's just an example of USB support from kernel. Although similar, some kernels have various functions enabled, some don't.
Sometimes, changes (for support) need to be hard coded/added at the kernel source or just from config file before compile. This applies also to USB and OTG -A & -B devices.
OT, have enabled USB support for missing iPad & iPhone 5 in upcoming SkyHigh kernel 3.0.0 (untested)
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Arobase40 said:
As already said, at least from Tegra 2 Galaxy Tab there are support for OTG.
If you know any other Samsung devices that don't support it as stock, then specify...
Don't talk about Apple devices as I hate them and don't even want to hear from them...
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Sorry, I think you missing my point/example.
I am talking about unsupported USB/OTG features and support for various peripherals. Not all are supported with stock kernel.
As a very basic example, take a look at any kernel .config file.
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Can I please get to know how do I get my HD working...?
I have figured out that I'll have to modify my kernal as no existing kernel dev say that they can assure the HD working...
So which files have to be modified ?
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USB On-The-Go

So I'm veery close buying this wonderful moto g device, but storage is my biggest concern. Luckly I have seen that usb otg is supported at moto g, but some sites (including GSM arena) say it has only USB host(?) support. Does moto g have fully working usb otg? I mean that there is possibility to transfer files between phone and memorystick and so on. Because of the lack of SDcard slot, usb otg is very important feature for me. I just want to make this thing clear before I order the device from amazon. Thank you, answer would be highly appreciated!
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Yes, you can transfer to and from usb memory stick. USB on the go works fine on Moto G
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Yes, you can transfer to and from usb memory stick. USB on the go works fine on Moto G
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That's great to hear!
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Hi. I ordered Meenova but I have not tried it yet I will let you know when it arrives hope it works
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I have got two cheap (£1) USB otg connectors off eBay or Amazon and they work just fine :thumbup:
newuser25 said:
Yes, you can transfer to and from usb memory stick. USB on the go works fine on Moto G
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really can you transfer?? cause i bought an usb OTG cable, and i only can read my usb stick, not write it.
(i have my stock rom and i'm not rooted, so i'm thinking thats the problem but i'm not sure)
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Pretty sure you can do both. I will double check that and confirm tonight.
Depends, some here can some can't. I can't write but can read and mount OK.
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Yep it's different for everyone. I can't write but read and mount, unmount. I'm on stock rom not rooted. Tested with music and power amp.
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Similar thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2562402
Try this app + Total Commander:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.hechler.tcplugins.usbstick&hl=fr
It works perfect for me. I couldnt even mount with many apps and this one can mount, read and write every time.
Piaer said:
Similar thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2562402
Try this app + Total Commander:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.hechler.tcplugins.usbstick&hl=fr
It works perfect for me. I couldnt even mount with many apps and this one can mount, read and write every time.
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thanks, i was able to mount the usb stick in R/W with that app
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Yes. It does work. Read and write. I am on Tesco GB Rom- rooted.

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