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Questions about Odin,Roms,and CWM.

I was just thinking everyone is bummed about not having a full working cwm to do a full restore. But when u screw up its Odin to the call. right? I just don't see why we need full CWM when we can use Odin if we mess up. As far as getting things back to normal (setting,icons,wallpapers,etc.) U can use advanced restore to put everything back the way it was before the flash but still keep the effects of new kernels and roms. So i ask this why all the fuss? Also maybe someone could elaborate on the mount issue. Is it only when you try to do a full restore Or flash certain Roms? Oh yea and this is a noob asking.
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It's mostly a question of convenience. If we get a fully functioning cwm it can be directly booted in to replacing the stock recovery. More importantly it can be incorporated into Rom Manager which makes lots of things easier and more standardized. Things like flashing roms and kernels or restoring backups and making fixes would be much easier and all right there in rom manager/cwm.
As far as Odin/heimdal goes yes that works for installing roms, restoring from soft bricks, etc. but is no substitute for a nandroid backup/restore which is great for reverting to a former configurations fully and easily after trying out new roms, kernels, etc.
There are other reasons it would be great to have a finished cwm but what we have now is not that bad since it can do most of the important things we need.
I am still interested in what I hear that people are restoring full nandroid backups successfully. The official word is that its not unmounting properly during format function in a restore, at least that's what I understand. If full restore is actually working as some are claiming then I'm not sure what is actually left undone.
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Harhar321 said:
It's mostly a question of convenience. If we get a fully functioning cwm it can be directly booted in to replacing the stock recovery. More importantly it can be incorporated into Rom Manager which makes lots of things easier and more standardized. Things like flashing roms and kernels or restoring backups and making fixes would be much easier and all right there in rom manager/cwm.
As far as Odin/heimdal goes yes that works for installing roms, restoring from soft bricks, etc. but is no substitute for a nandroid backup/restore which is great for reverting to a former configurations fully and easily after trying out new roms, kernels, etc.
There are other reasons it would be great to have a finished cwm but what we have now is not that bad since it can do most of the important things we need.
I am still interested in what I hear that people are restoring full nandroid backups successfully. The official word is that its not unmounting properly during format function in a restore, at least that's what I understand. If full restore is actually working as some are claiming then I'm not sure what is actually left undone.
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So basically it would take the need for a PC out. Plus make restoring full backup possible (also tried full restore and got mounting error). Thanks for the info. So is it do to lack of devolopment and devs that r device is not so popular or the mounting issue. Thanks again.
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Damn you got the mounting error....i thought that worked...wtf
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Why am I testing post that your alter to do a full restore...pretty misleading
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de1packers said:
Why am I testing post that your alter to do a full restore...pretty misleading
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Just curious..... Have u tried the full restore yet on CWM? If so what where your results??? I have to admit i finally have my 4g running and set up just how i want it and im a little nervous to try it out(i have done a couple advanced restores) for fear me and my old friend odin might end up getting back together a little sooner than i had planned!

Well wait maybe I'm confused..advanced restores are not nandroid restore?...
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de1packers said:
Well wait maybe I'm confused..advanced restores are not nandroid restore?...
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Advanced restore lets you restore just not full restore. It gives you the option to restore system,data,ect one at a time. However I have not tried to restore system just data. Like I said before couldn't full restore due to mounting issue. Also I think nandroid backup is just another term for a full backup of basicly the exact state of the phone at the time back up is done. If I'm wrong please feel free to correct me.
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Ah so it sounds like there is still a mounting related error after all. And yes you got it about right. A full nandroid restore basically brings your phone back to 100% exactly the state it was in when you backed it up.
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Totally clear on that considering I've been in this since the g1 with RAs recovery..that guy was so hardcore with yhe recovery....so what does the state of the phone look like after you do a restore?
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You hit the nail on the head....
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So wait nandroid backup and restore doesnt work for some people?
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So wait nandroid backup and restore doesnt work for some people and for some it does?
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Let's clear up the confusion...
As I posted on the Wiki, I have successfully done a Nandroid backup and a Nandroid restore... In both cases the "system" was identified as being backed up (or restored).
I have repeated this several times, the most recent being this morning. But, in an effort to not dispute krylon360, I've posted a targeted question to him in his thread announcing CWM3.0.2.8Beta.
I am hopeful of his response!

I was just wondering cause it works for me all the time and I thought it was working for everybody.
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It is....they say it works with bali kernal, you can't use the stock kernal..I've tested and confirmed
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GDofWR420 said:
I was just thinking everyone is bummed about not having a full working cwm to do a full restore. But when u screw up its Odin to the call. right? I just don't see why we need full CWM when we can use Odin if we mess up. As far as getting things back to normal (setting,icons,wallpapers,etc.) U can use advanced restore to put everything back the way it was before the flash but still keep the effects of new kernels and roms. So i ask this why all the fuss? Also maybe someone could elaborate on the mount issue. Is it only when you try to do a full restore Or flash certain Roms? Oh yea and this is a noob asking.
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restore definitely works on cwm.... u all r kinda being wild... there are already threads on this... look at the development thread for clockworkmod... comparing odin to cwm psshhh

Nothing wrong with odin. Nothing wrong with cwm. I have been backing up and restoring with cwm for a while now. Still don't know if it's a true "nandroid" backup but it restores everything but my lock screen wallpaper. Everytime without fail. So good that I have not had to use odin or titanium. I'm even sure I could odin at this point and get all of it back through cwm. Follow the steps for setting it up you should be fine. I'm running whites KD1 and have been since it came out.(**** I might have to Odin now just to check it out) How do you use Odin again?
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Help a newbie?

Hi Guys,
Apologies if the following seems easy but I'm new to the rooting scene. Had an iPhone for a while and jailbroke on several occasions but never rooted an android before.
I have a desire S which I would like to root. Here's my plan of action.
1)S-off using alpharevx
2)Download and run ginger break to get root
3)download and install the free application rom manager from android market to flash CWM
5) Use rom manager to perform first full (Nandroid) backup
6) Wipe as per instructions for LBC Mod
7) Flash with LBC Mod
I attained that information on another thread. Here's my questions/concerns:
1. What is CWM? What does it do? Is it the same as ext4?
2. What is the Nandroid backup for? Where does it backup to?
3. Is the LBC Mod any good? Any other recommendations?
4. Will my SD card be wiped during this?
5. Is any of this flashing my radio? What does it mean to flash the radio? Do I need to do it?
6. Any way to backup apps during this? all my contacts and calendars are synced with google so not concerned about those.
I appreciate any and all help If I'm feeling confident enough I'm going to give this a go when I get home from work.

to your question
1.
2.
3.LBC Mod is very good
4.no
5.no
6.titanium backup to backup all your apps
I am newbie too...

In all honesty you could have used google for a great deal of this, especially CWM and Nandroid backup!
1) CWM (clock work mod) is a recovery program that permits you to perform advance functions (ie backups, restores, formats and flash roms etc) on your device that you wouldnt be able to do with Android alone. Ext4 is an improved version of CWM built from the same code base, which is easier to use and offers more functionality.
2) A nandroid backup is simply a full backup of your device. that you can restore at a later time, including everything except the SD card.
3) I like LBC MOD that’s why I use it.
4) No sd will not be wiped, but everything elseon the device will.
5) None of these steps flashes your radio. The radio is the software on your device that controls your phones interaction with the mobile network and wi-fi. You should only upgrade your radio if its advised in the ROM installation instructions or your experiencing problems. Flashing a radio is in theory more dangerous than flashing a rom.
6) You can backup apps, by using an application like Titanium Backup but its not advised when moving from one ROM to another completely differing one, like you are from stock to LBC.
Good luck
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Eastnorth said:
to your question
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2.
3.LBC Mod is very good
4.no
5.no
6.titanium backup to backup all your apps
I am newbie too...
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Good answer mate, nice & succinct
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ben_pyett said:
In all honesty you could have used google for a great deal of this, especially CWM and Nandroid backup!
1) CWM (clock work mod) is a recovery program that permits you to perform advance functions (ie backups, restores, formats and flash roms etc) on your device that you wouldnt be able to do with Android alone. Ext4 is an improved version of CWM built from the same code base, which is easier to use and offers more functionality.
2) A nandroid backup is simply a full backup of your device. that you can restore at a later time, including everything except the SD card.
3) I like LBC MOD that’s why I use it.
4) No sd will not be wiped, but everything elseon the device will.
5) None of these steps flashes your radio. The radio is the software on your device that controls your phones interaction with the mobile network and wi-fi. You should only upgrade your radio if its advised in the ROM installation instructions or your experiencing problems. Flashing a radio is in theory more dangerous than flashing a rom.
6) You can backup apps, by using an application like Titanium Backup but its not advised when moving from one ROM to another completely differing one, like you are from stock to LBC.
Good luck
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Thanks for the help - feeling a bit more confident about this now

so much for feeling confident
I have attained S-OFF no problems but cant get gingerbreak to work.
Have tried a couple of times. Once it just hung at "rooting" for a long long time so i cancelled it.
Then I thought it was successful as the phone rebooted but ROM Manager is telling me there is no superuser available. What could I be doing wrong?
EDIT: formatted the SD card and tried gingerbreak again.. Success!! Now for some ROM fun......

steste01 said:
so much for feeling confident
I have attained S-OFF no problems but cant get gingerbreak to work.
Have tried a couple of times. Once it just hung at "rooting" for a long long time so i cancelled it.
Then I thought it was successful as the phone rebooted but ROM Manager is telling me there is no superuser available. What could I be doing wrong?
EDIT: formatted the SD card and tried gingerbreak again.. Success!! Now for some ROM fun......
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did u formatted via phone or some card reader?
i cant get gingerbreak to work...

Adidas108 said:
did u formatted via phone or some card reader?
i cant get gingerbreak to work...
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Did you actually use an app to test if you have root?
Because it's normal that gingerbreak gives you an error and tells you to reboot.
Do you have superuser after trying?

xIntenso said:
Did you actually use an app to test if you have root?
Because it's normal that gingerbreak gives you an error and tells you to reboot.
Do you have superuser after trying?
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That's exactly what happened to me but still managed superuser.
Also when I tried to use RomManager it wouldn't work with EXT4, I had to flash CWM instead.

Im rooted now and running LBC custom ROM but I cant download anything from the marketplace - I get a download was unsuccessful errors.
Anyone know how to fix this? Ive tried fixing permissions, signing into goggle talk, stopping the market process but nothing is working.

You may wanna checkout the cyanogenmod rom created recently, it is remarkably stable and fast. There's a thread in the dev section with links and instructions.
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You may wanna checkout the cyanogenmod rom created recently, it is remarkably stable and fast. There's a thread in the dev section with links and instructions.
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What about Virtuous Unity? (For some reason I thought it looked like the best room, but what do I know?)
*Another newbie here *
Regards,

solojuve1897 said:
What about Virtuous Unity? (For some reason I thought it looked like the best room, but what do I know?)
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Seems too buggy to me. Just look at the bugtracker.

dohnjoe said:
You may wanna checkout the cyanogenmod rom created recently, it is remarkably stable and fast. There's a thread in the dev section with links and instructions.
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isnt that the one that doesnt play video?

right how do i go back to stock? This is just too unreliable.

steste01 said:
right how do i go back to stock? This is just too unreliable.
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Just flash a stock rom

neomis said:
Just flash a stock rom
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So im on o2 UK.
Flashing with this ROM:
RUU_Saga_O2_UK_1.31.206.1_Radio_20.28b.30.0805U_38 .03.02.14_M_release
http://www.filefactory.com/file/ca32...935_signed.exe
will get back to sa it was when it shipped?

steste01 said:
isnt that the one that doesnt play video?
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Solved in v1.2
Only problems are:
-Bluetooth not working
-battery usage
Since the rom is only a few days old I expect these will be solved pretty soon.
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steste01 said:
So im on o2 UK.
Flashing with this ROM:
RUU_Saga_O2_UK_1.31.206.1_Radio_20.28b.30.0805U_38 .03.02.14_M_release
http://www.filefactory.com/file/ca32...935_signed.exe
will get back to sa it was when it shipped?
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Why dont you just restore your backup? You did create a backup first as instructed, right?
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[Q] looked and looked but still dont get it

ok so i just did my first root ever with no problems.
i have searched and searched but still not getting answers that i feel comfortable with.
if there is anyone that is familiar with my device samsung galaxy s blaze. pls pm me. i will return the favor, promise

mudmachine2929 said:
ok so i just did my first root ever with no problems.
i have searched and searched but still not getting answers that i feel comfortable with.
if there is anyone that is familiar with my device samsung galaxy s blaze. pls pm me. i will return the favor, promise
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your question is ambiguous please elaborate.

i want to try a rom by starskyrob fox star 1.4.0.
dont know what tb backs up and did a batch backup and now everthing in backup/restore is gone. i used cwm to backup curent rom. think that is called a nandroid backup. after all the reading i still dont all the way get the installing new rom procedure.
will my contacts be there. and photos. should i partition my sd card. where why is my usb staorage full. etc etc. i love the fact i can do these things with my phone. i just dont want to jump the gun, i am not the type person who likes to do anything unless i tried my best to fig out what i am doing first.
i dont even know if i am using xda the right way. if not i am sorry

first,,,tb free. what all can i do with it. what does it do,i have read about it. everyone says back up user apps and ssytem data. what is system data. is that my contacts,,, if i install new rom wont tb disappear. if so where does my backup go

mudmachine2929 said:
first,,,tb free. what all can i do with it. what does it do,i have read about it. everyone says back up user apps and ssytem data. what is system data. is that my contacts,,, if i install new rom wont tb disappear. if so where does my backup go
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Tb is a program that backs up ur applications and the data attached to each app. a nandroid backup ur current configuration so it saves everything from data, apps, contacts. so best bet is nand. But if ur going into another rom then tb backup that way u can restore once ur in the other rom. Btw foxstar rom isnt working i would suggest my rom *DarkKnight build 2* or reviewers rom which is based on my build 1 called *Noble series*

Right now the only working ROMs are Dark Knight and Noble.
Titanium Backup is a great tool, and will allow you to backup everything including your apps and contacts. Your pictures should be/can be saved on your external SD card, double check that.
Backing up system apps can cause issues when moving to a custom ROM, but I always backup user apps. Yes the new ROM will remove the Titanium Backup application, but the backup for us saved externally. Simply re download TB and restore, viola!
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i get what your say n. and i know this will make me look like a tool,but thats ok.
i only heard about rooting a phone days ago and i found directions on rooting my phone.thanks to the pros out there. then i google my phone is rooted now what.
tb came up and cwm.
i want to try a rom for my samsung galaxy s blaze, i just dont understand the backup and rstore using tb free. and i dont unerstand completly the new rom install process. using rom manager. or from downloading one on pc. what should i wipe and not wipe. what are the do's and donts. i understand directions , alot of people had trouble getting s blaze to root but i did not cause i can follow directions. i have no more direction.

i need one walk through on my first backup and rom install. i will gadly use your rom.

where can i download your rom from with istruction ,,, people say every rom has its own install instruction. and its for galaxy s blaze right. and also what is the design of your rom. performance, batt life, etc
thank you

mudmachine2929 said:
where can i download your rom from with istruction ,,, people say every rom has its own install instruction. and its for galaxy s blaze right. and also what is the design of your rom. performance, batt life, etc
thank you
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You can find all of this and then some in the first post of the ROM thread.
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been looking, cant find where to down load your rom.

mudmachine2929 said:
been looking, cant find where to down load your rom.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1698330
Here u go
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I lied, second post. It's the link that says "Click me for awesomeness"
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Biohazard0289 said:
I lied, second post. It's the link that says "Click me for awesomeness"
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Lol yep that's the link
sent from my batcave

i downloaded and installed the first one. i followed direction though and it worked. kinda knew it was not right one so i did my backup i made and all is well. went through my first cycle. thank you all for the support and help. looking forward to flashing the right one soon.

mudmachine2929 said:
i downloaded and installed the first one. i followed direction though and it worked. kinda knew it was not right one so i did my backup i made and all is well. went through my first cycle. thank you all for the support and help. looking forward to flashing the right one soon.
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Its a process, however once you do it enough you can flash in your sleep. You'll get there, no worries.
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Getting an S3 next week, how important is it to backup your IMEI?

I see some topics about it. I plan to unlock and root as soon as I get the phone.
Just how important is it to backup this, and anything else I should backup too?

its pretty important.. nothing can go wrong by backing it up. once you root it back it up just in case so your new phone wont be a $600 paperweight!
When you install CWM do a nandroid backup of stock

THE SKATER DUDE said:
its pretty important.. nothing can go wrong by backing it up. once you root it back it up just in case so your new phone wont be a $600 paperweight!
When you install CWM do a nandroid backup of stock
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That's good to hear. I figured I'd make stock backup too. Having stock rooted won't mess it up I'd presume? Is there an app that does it too?

I have flashed all the roms available, including CM10 and had no trouble with IMEI. Always good to backup though. There's a fairly simple process in the CM10 OP.

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I have flashed all the roms available, including CM10 and had no trouble with IMEI. Always good to backup though. There's a fairly simple process in the CM10 OP.
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It's built in I assume?

Recon0212 said:
That's good to hear. I figured I'd make stock backup too. Having stock rooted won't mess it up I'd presume? Is there an app that does it too?
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once rooted and you have installed clockwork mod recovery or TWRP you can make a back up of your whole phone..this will not mess up anything. You can get these two recoveries by using the ez recovery app on google play....... To make a backup in the recovery it will say backup and restore as one of the main options

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once rooted and you have installed clockwork mod recovery or TWRP you can make a back up of your whole phone..this will not mess up anything. You can get these two recoveries by using the ez recovery app on google play
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Sorry I don't think I was clear, I know about ROMs cause I do it on my Incredible. What I meant was backing up my IMEI

Recon0212 said:
Sorry I don't think I was clear, I know about ROMs cause I do it on my Incredible. What I meant was backing up my IMEI
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O my bad you have to be rooted in order to run the operation through a terminal emulator app

If you poke around in development there's one for Mac/Ubuntu (I think Ubuntu anyway) that does root and clockwork recovery from your computer, and that's what I use because it's pretty quick and easy.
If it can ever be important you should make a backup of it though. Since fixing things is always a process, having comprehensive resources for it can trim a lot of time.

Using QPST it only took me like 5 minutes to back mine up. Really simple. Then I put a copy of the file on my HD, on my phone's SD card and one on my Google drive. Now I'm sure I can't lose it. LoL they are small files too. Under 500kb
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I’d like to look further into it.

I lost my IMEI and other connection data with a bad flash of a CM10 nightly. I had to do a lot of stuff, including manually typing in my IMEI using QPST and then returning my phone to the Verizon store for them to do some factory-reset style stuff to it before I got connectivity again. (Even though I was bone-stock with a re-locked bootloader they still knew I had rooted and messed with the kernel and other stuff, btw). And its not completely correct, even though I am in my home service area I constantly have the flashing grey triangle that says I am doing international roaming. Pretty weird. So long story short, backup IMEI and everything else BEFORE FLASHING ANYTHING.

Legato Bluesummers said:
Using QPST it only took me like 5 minutes to back mine up. Really simple. Then I put a copy of the file on my HD, on my phone's SD card and one on my Google drive. Now I'm sure I can't lose it. LoL they are small files too. Under 500kb
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That's good, I'll probably put it on my Skydrive then too.
Is there a high chance of losing it on flashing though? I just plan to flash CM10 really.

Recon0212 said:
That's good, I'll probably put it on my Skydrive then too.
Is there a high chance of losing it on flashing though? I just plan to flash CM10 really.
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Yes, there's always a chance you'll loose it. Better to be safe, than sorry. It only takes a couple of minutes to backup and it may save you the hassle of an exchange.

I backed up the IMEI using this method ( QPST) http://rootzwiki.com/topic/32397-tutorial-imei-backup-nv-with-qpst-us-variants/ It doesn't say should i reset the modems to mtp-adb?
it doesn't say and i would have posted it there but the guy at the end of the thread seems like he is all pissy if you ask any questions. thanks guys

Check out this thread. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1852255
Flash the file in the OP in cwm recovery for an easy backup. NOTE: Your bootloader must be unlocked for it to work.
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thanks bro i did that one first but they say do all of them just in case. so i did .

[Q] What will happen?

Hello everyone, i'm relatively new to all this modding stuff for androids, but with the help of your lovely site an the clever people within, i have since managed to root and install the Clockworkmod on my LG p690f from here >http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1354387
Everything seems good and i did do a nandroid backup as factory(out of the box) setup the very moment CWM was installed.
Since then i have removed alot of the stock apps and changed all kinds of things..
My question is... if i need to do a restore with cwm on boot (home + vol up + power) and select backup > restore, will it be back to how it was?... stock rom... stock apps.. stock settings?.. or will my phone turn into a pretty paper weight?
Thanks

If you need to restore, it will be the exact look as the time you did the backup.
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iKoolkid said:
If you need to restore, it will be the exact look as the time you did the backup.
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Thank you so much