Is there a multiboot platform? Id like to boot between a custom rom and a setup thats strictly for my work. It has corporate policies and vpns already set and I'd like to be able to switch back and forth freely without too much work. I remember the Droid X and X2 had this and was curious if it was able to happen on my Xyboard.
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Hi guys.
I am looking for a good alternative to a google development phone.
I apologize in advance for posting a possibly redundant thread here.
Here is what I am:
1. I am new to Android development.
2. I've read certain threads on rooting here and I got confused
3. I am currently learning Android development using Android emulator with Android SDK and Eclipse.
My phone requirements:
1. I don't want to sign in to Google when I start or reset the phone.
2. Ability to use wi-fi whenever I need it
3. Ability not to use my provider's soft and install whatever I want.
4. Access the hardware with low-level code functionality.
5. No data plan from my provider required.
As far as I understood rooting an Android phone is pretty much giving me administrator rights and ability to run different ROMs on the phone.
I just bought a used T-Mobile MyTouch 3D for $130. To use it, I have to log in to Google first. No Wi-Fi capabilities are exposed at this step so I have to buy a data plan from my provider which I am reluctant to do since I don't see any use for it. For now, I jumped on a free-month promotion and signed up for the plan. So I passed the signing-in part.
Here is a couple of questions:
1. According to the threads I've read here, MyTouch 3D has the NAND lock which is not hacked at this moment. So is it possible to make this particular phone comply with my requirements outlined above? Could you please point me to the right thread then.
2. If 1. does not work, what phones can you recommend? I am willing to do rooting and flushing as long as it does not kill all my free time.
I can buy a Google Nexus One development phone but as far as I found out via googling, it runs about $500 which I can't afford at the moment.
I would be grateful for functional advice on the topic.
Thanks, Alex.
If you don't sign into Google, you can't use the Market. DROID Incredible is a good developers phone.
Rockin' DJ05, Minimal Icognito, Clocked at 1.3Ghz
Just get a Google Dev phone, you don't need to sign in at all, just press skip. As for the data, just remove your SIM, it will then ask you to connect to wifi. Best phone's that can be rooted without hassle:
Nexus S and Nexus One
fastboot -oem unlock and just flash a custom recovery or push BusyBox and Superuser.
dnlsmy said:
Just get a Google Dev phone, you don't need to sign in at all, just press skip. As for the data, just remove your SIM, it will then ask you to connect to wifi. Best phone's that can be rooted without hassle:
Nexus S and Nexus One
fastboot -oem unlock and just flash a custom recovery or push BusyBox and Superuser.
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Thanks, I'll start looking into Nexus One. Maybe buying a dev phone from google is the least time-expensive option.
No signing is not an option with my T-Mobile MyTouch 3G. I can't skip it. I have to sign in to use the phone. No Wi-Fi is available at this point. I've talked to T-Mobile. They said I have to sign in if I want to use the phone, i.e I have to to get their data plan. End of story.
TheSonicEmerald said:
If you don't sign into Google, you can't use the Market. DROID Incredible is a good developers phone.
Rockin' DJ05, Minimal Icognito, Clocked at 1.3Ghz
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Thanks for your reply.
Is that true? I want to sign in to Google only when I decide to sign in, i.e. per need, say when I decide to use the Market.
I don't want Google to synchronize my things either. I am capable of keeping my things together myself. I understand Google's integration is haven for many but not for me. Usually I prefer to control things on my own. I want to have an option to decide myself what I want. And if I decide to use Google's sync features in the future, I'll use them. But I want to have the right of choice here.
If you're going to say "@don't use Android-based Google owned phones then"... Heh-heh. I turned to Android because it was advertised as an open-source system, and it opens horizons for developers. Now I am learning that it is not what it is said it is. It's more phone provider's oriented and it enables phone providers to dictate users how to use it and what to do with it.
After all, Google is a big corporation and I don't see any clear differences between Google and, say, Microsoft... OK, the business models might differ but still...
Sorry for my whining. I've been developing for PCs for too many years.
Sorry I am a noob at android and i am trying to decide between which at&t phone i should choose. So does this locked bootloader thing set me back from customization for android phones?
Any other suggestions for at&t android phones i'm due for an upgrade june 2nd.
Bump?
Going crazy trying to figure out what android phone i want from at&t.
thanks in advance.
Yes, for now anyway. It means you cant install complete roms like CM7 or MIUI. The ones available are mostly themes. That said, there are multiple workarounds being worked on at the moment with good progress being made on them, so it probably wont be an issue before too long.
Personally, I'd go for the Atrix. Its still the best phone on AT&T from a raw horsepower perspective.
so eventually i will be able to unlock those custom roms, with that said if i get the device and root it what will be the extra features?
Yes, there is one post that follows the process that I used for my SK17i Mini Pro a couple months ago.
I'm new to Android. Yup a Noob. I don't mind saying as we all have to start to learn somewhere and somehow.
Long story short. I've damaged my Very well liked SK17i. Physical is what I mean here.
I rooted it according to some instructions along the lines of:
1. upgrade to firmware xxx.
2. grab image xxx. etc.
3. use the tool to root it.
I diverged... I just installed Doomloards Custom Kernel after step 2 or so and installed it as it was already rooted! It has overclocking though I didn't use it and of course it had Boot recovery. Plenty of other useful tools aready in the .img.
I basically want the same thing for my Pro.
My whole purpose of rooting is for the rights root grants, and to use aps2sd. Sufficient for my functions. (CM mod etc, will have to be a lot more stable for me to consider them which is going to be some time down the road for this device.)
I kept everything else stock. I don't do custom roms etc. This is a daily phone and I need it to function and work for communication.
bboof posted something like what I'd prefer to do. I'm waiting for a reply as to whether his kernel will support aps2sd. (I do mean the XDAversion not anything from Android apps store unless there has been something wonderfully new there in the last 2 months since I bought my Mini Pro.)
I was fighting the Internet here and a machine with HDD problems making for a serious dog dog slow experience here. I'm in CHINA. Censorship and random sites blocked for the fun of it.
I have searched and searched. I have broken out my little 10in Computer here cause it's at least not so mind numbingly painfully slow. (haha Now just fighting the internet. At the moment XDA is not blocked! Started out that way earlier? Had to use a proxy.)
I have been at this for several hours. About 7 so far.
I have FOUND no info on a Custom Kernel for the Xperia Pro MK16i? SO other than bboofs, is there none? Yet I've found comments in others that there are? Even that doomlord has made one. I can find no link? I found such a comment in his one step guide and someone said, why? We already have kernels with root available to be flashed to the device? (Please I want this kernel? how to find it?)
I've googled any number of search parameters i could think of. I can't find.
If there's a Doomlord kernel, just like with my SK17i, I would guess specific firmware is needed? Please tell me which and where to get it... Thank you to any and all who can shed some light here. I live in a different time zone and if I can get an answer that enables me to do what I want... I might be able to order this MK16i tomorrow.It seems a great piece of kit with some nice 'upgrades' compared to my SK17i. (It was not available in Oct.)
What I have found so far. CM7 or was it 9? There's a custom kernel that seems to be required to be installed before trying the CM7 ROM.
So anyone with more experience in Android. Can I use that CM7 Kernel for MK16i? What does it support? (I read back with my SK17i some problems with CM and aps2sd. Something about scripts clashing and all that.) I will not install CM Rom. I will keep stock ROM and I am guessing there may be some conflicts? Yes, no? Maybe?
As I'm asking about using custom kernels... WE all know that the Neo and Pro are the same unit. Just like the Mini and Mini pro were. With the physical difference of a keyboard.
Anyone have a clue or has anyone even TRIED! (Someone adventurous perhaps?) the Kernels for the Xperia Neo on the Xperia Pro? I am a noob, and I do use linux 98% of the time. I don't really work in Windows anymore. However, I'm not a coder or script writer. Also Android for lack of a better term has a few mods.
More or less, in Android, from my simple understanding and yes, correct me if I'm totally wrong or even partially, so I can gain understanding, the ROM is basically where all your program functions and such are. SO when we're talking about the keyboard for example. Parameters and such I would guess are in the ROM?
If all else being equal, I should be able to use a Neo Custom Kernel on my SK16i to achieve my simple result? Or do I have it confused?
What I understand is at least with aps2sd, a ramdisk mod is needed? Does the bboof kernel not only offer root but the modded ramdisk to support other features with everything else being stock? (Actually I'm guessing it should because of mods that should still have been made to allow for the recovery. Though everything else is 'stock'. Of course totally not sure or I wouldn't be here asking.)
Anyone know? I'm more or less sitting here spinning my wheels. I want to order the replacement and at the price difference, it seems silly not to buy the MK16i. (However basically want to be 100% certain I can manage my same little basic setup.)
Also, if anyone with more experience has some idea, I'll be happy to use another tool to gain the ability to put aps on my SD card and not take up the limited space on the device. So please recommend a tool that isn't too complicated.
How about link2sd? Does it also require a modded ramdisk space?
I just want to keep it simple. I don't often need so far, any great mods on my devices. Just root so being in CHINA I can actually use the appstore.
My SK17i does work despite the damage. SO I have ROMmanager the back up program. I haven't really used it yet. (Unable to pay for paid version again other limitations of CHINA. Including an inability to pay for VPN at the moment to stop fighting with the internet. Last time to work with my SK17i took me about 5 days! Coz every link to download the files was blocked!! It only took me about 3min following the instructions to actually update firmware. unlock bootloader, add Doomlords custom kernel. ) Hoping I can use Rom Manager to back up just my programs and shift them right over to the MK16i. Can I do that? Anyone with a bit more experience using the program and does this work with the unpaid version?
Hoping to do the same here... if there's no custom kernels or such available. Please tell me. If there are, links where to download etc.
All those who use various ways to put aps on your SDcard please let me know what works well and stable. Also the real way, not like some of the app store aps. I'll make a ext partition, that kind of approach, on my SD card.
THis is likely by far an advance question... what about running debian or some linux image in chroot on Android and obviously an Xperia. In particular the pro but has anyone tried with anything else? I saw a few links about it a few months ago and even someone has an app in appstore supposed to automate it. (Uh not so important as the primary. Getting root in a kernel and aps2sd support.)
Sorry if this post is long. I'm trying to save you guys wondering what I want, and having to ask me more questions.
In case it's important. I am buying a sim unlocked non carrier specific unit. I buy from Expansys. I live in China so buy from HK. Their products are good and stuff not made for CHINA! Which is the absolute must to avoid. Unless you like fiddling and trying to bypass the limitations they put on their products. Android units sold in CHINA of course are locked by carrier. of course remove Android app store!
Not even going into the necessity to have root so I can 'pretend' I'm in some other country to reach apps that google censors from China anyway.
I hope I've been detailed enough and someone can point me in the right direction.
I've got flashtool and other tools from when I did my SK17i back in October. (Fortunately. I dread to think of the internet fight if I had to try to get them all over again. I'll only need the files specific to MK16i and links to them.)
Please use the Q&A Forum for questions Thanks
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Hi all,
this is my first post, though I have been lurking around for some time here. I didn't get into androids until gingerbread, so I am not too tech savvy about all this, but I have played around with a few ROMS on my Razr Maxx and I like the customization ability of it all.
For reasons I will not get into (to keep this post on topic), I am currently looking for custom ROMS, possibly based on CM10 or CM9 for both mine and my girlfriend phone's.
She has the Droid 4 and I have the Droid Razr Maxx. I originally read about carrier IQ and that a custom ROM was usually the only way to disable it. As far as I can tell I do NOT have CIQ on my Razr Maxx atm. However I do see e911 location which is always on and is, from what I can tell, pretty much the same thing as CIQ. I already know how to disable Google locations services etc - but that's not what I am talking about.
Are there any ROM's for ICS or Jelly Bean which (have data and almost everything working - I can go without a rotate animation etc) disable Verizon's or other government tracking?
My girlfriend's x-bf is a top level NSA hacker, and can always tell where she is, what she's doing, etc. It's very annoying but that's just the tip of the iceberg, but as I said, I'm only looking for relevant answers to my question.
If there are ROMS which intentionally or unintentionally have disabled the e911 or other built in, undisable-able location tracking, as well as anything that would allow texts or calls to be recorded, I would like to know about them. Obviously they would need to be either for the Droid Razr (Maxx) or the Droid 4.
Yes I could buy a "drug dealer pre-paid throw away phone" without being tracked, but I'm not a drug dealer, and I have a contract with Verizon and I love my phone except for the CIQ type problems.
I know quite a bit about windows programming, but I am lost as to how android works, and I don't know what other location, tracking, etc services are hidden with these phones, and I would like all of them GONE, if possible.
Also:
If there isn't such a ROM available, how easy or hard would it be to modify one in this interest?
Thanks for your time, and PLEASE keep the replies on topic and without juvenile remarks in regards to my concern for privacy, as those who would give up essential Liberty to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.
demiurgic_maven said:
Hi all,
this is my first post, though I have been lurking around for some time here. I didn't get into androids until gingerbread, so I am not too tech savvy about all this, but I have played around with a few ROMS on my Razr Maxx and I like the customization ability of it all.
For reasons I will not get into (to keep this post on topic), I am currently looking for custom ROMS, possibly based on CM10 or CM9 for both mine and my girlfriend phone's.
She has the Droid 4 and I have the Droid Razr Maxx. I originally read about carrier IQ and that a custom ROM was usually the only way to disable it. As far as I can tell I do NOT have CIQ on my Razr Maxx atm. However I do see e911 location which is always on and is, from what I can tell, pretty much the same thing as CIQ. I already know how to disable Google locations services etc - but that's not what I am talking about.
Are there any ROM's for ICS or Jelly Bean which (have data and almost everything working - I can go without a rotate animation etc) disable Verizon's or other government tracking?
My girlfriend's x-bf is a top level NSA hacker, and can always tell where she is, what she's doing, etc. It's very annoying but that's just the tip of the iceberg, but as I said, I'm only looking for relevant answers to my question.
If there are ROMS which intentionally or unintentionally have disabled the e911 or other built in, undisable-able location tracking, as well as anything that would allow texts or calls to be recorded, I would like to know about them. Obviously they would need to be either for the Droid Razr (Maxx) or the Droid 4.
Yes I could buy a "drug dealer pre-paid throw away phone" without being tracked, but I'm not a drug dealer, and I have a contract with Verizon and I love my phone except for the CIQ type problems.
I know quite a bit about windows programming, but I am lost as to how android works, and I don't know what other location, tracking, etc services are hidden with these phones, and I would like all of them GONE, if possible.
Also:
If there isn't such a ROM available, how easy or hard would it be to modify one in this interest?
Thanks for your time, and PLEASE keep the replies on topic and without juvenile remarks in regards to my concern for privacy, as those who would give up essential Liberty to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.
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u can always try downloading a spoofer, it will give off a fake location for u. But the best way would be to actually remove the GPS chip from your phones, its like brain surgery but its possible, then u would need to also find a Rom that does not do a hardware check so that your phone will boot without the GPS chip...best bet, have her shut off her cell phone and pull the battery out, or just not use a cellphone, iPod, iPad, tablet, laptop or pc because anything that can hookup to the www can be tracked one way or another.
Hey Guys,
I have been using CM10 for a while now but I really miss the productivity lock screen that comes with Sense 4.0. I will like to go back but back in June I was not able to use any of the Sense ROMs since phone failed to complete the encryption needed to download emails from my work account (company policy). Do you know if any of the Sense ROMs work now? Also, will the encryption prevent me from flashing new ROMs in the future? Or make it too complicated?
Thanks...
rdxhd said:
Hey Guys,
I have been using CM10 for a while now but I really miss the productivity lock screen that comes with Sense 4.0. I will like to go back but back in June I was not able to use any of the Sense ROMs since phone failed to complete the encryption needed to download emails from my work account (company policy). Do you know if any of the Sense ROMs work now? Also, will the encryption prevent me from flashing new ROMs in the future? Or make it too complicated?
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Not that you should really do this, but there are ways to thwart the Exchange security policies. There are some hacked versions of the ICS mail app floating around that make your mail server think you have the security in place when you actually don't.
iElvis said:
Not that you should really do this, but there are ways to thwart the Exchange security policies. There are some hacked versions of the ICS mail app floating around that make your mail server think you have the security in place when you actually don't.
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Thanks. But I don't mind having the requirement to encrypt the phone's data. Plus I would like to avoid issues with the IT folks at work.
OK. I flashed CleanRom and tried to encrypt data but it got stuck at 33%. It was actually like that for 5 hours until I got tired and flashed CM10 again.
Does anyone know if there are other ROMs in which encryption works? Is it something else that is preventing me from accomplishing this.
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I think I may know what my problem is. I been doing some research and apparently I can't do the encryption if my bootloader is unlocked. Can anyone confirm?