I see that they have the shields on sale at my local video store for $250, I want to go get one now, but I see that my router wasn't listed on the site as a recommended router. I have the Asus RT-AC66R router with like a triangle box upstairs for better range I was told. My laptop is a Asus G75VW. Is this going to be okay for good results streaming this or am I going to need to upgrade. I am not at all good with understanding this stuff, just like the gaming end of things. Thanks in advance.
Chris
Also I just found out that my VC is a GTX660M, I think the min w\is 650 isn't it?
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I see that they have the shields on sale at my local video store for $250, I want to go get one now, but I see that my router wasn't listed on the site as a recommended router. I have the Asus RT-AC66R router with like a triangle box upstairs for better range I was told. My laptop is a Asus G75VW. Is this going to be okay for good results streaming this or am I going to need to upgrade. I am not at all good with understanding this stuff, just like the gaming end of things. Thanks in advance.
Chris
Also I just found out that my VC is a GTX660M, I think the min w\is 650 isn't it?
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I'm pretty sure the minimum requirement for GPU is GTX 600 series or higher. As for the router, as long as it is a 802.11a/g model then you should be fine. A 802.11n dual band router is recommended tho. Also, make sure your laptop has a RAM of 4GB or higher. Lastly, update your drivers to the latest. And you will be all set.
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I see that they have the shields on sale at my local video store for $250, I want to go get one now, but I see that my router wasn't listed on the site as a recommended router. I have the Asus RT-AC66R router with like a triangle box upstairs for better range I was told. My laptop is a Asus G75VW. Is this going to be okay for good results streaming this or am I going to need to upgrade. I am not at all good with understanding this stuff, just like the gaming end of things. Thanks in advance.
Chris
Also I just found out that my VC is a GTX660M, I think the min w\is 650 isn't it?
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That router is on the list here http://shield.nvidia.com/accessories-hardware/
It is the first router on that list.
hey there, think your first issue to stream from your laptop GPU to SHIELD. As far as i know, Nvidia SHIELD has not formally support laptop streaming yet unless u try some 3rd party apps. I have a gaming laptop here too with 680m. sigh
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hey there, think your first issue to stream from your laptop GPU to SHIELD. As far as i know, Nvidia SHIELD has not formally support laptop streaming yet unless u try some 3rd party apps. I have a gaming laptop here too with 680m. sigh
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Ya I picked it up anyways, but maybe they will come out with an update! Regardless it's pretty cool and I'm going to keep it. With all the emulators out there and with the beta games I'm having some fun.
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I am curios to know if streaming over the internet is possible. I think the speed would be too slow to use.
chevyowner said:
I am curios to know if streaming over the internet is possible. I think the speed would be too slow to use.
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they have shown it possible using nvidia grid, however currently it won't be possible using the shields built in streaming apps/tech. thats LAN only. i believe they want the message out there tho that it can do it should they allow it, so to speak.
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they have shown it possible using nvidia grid, however currently it won't be possible using the shields built in streaming apps/tech. thats LAN only. i believe they want the message out there tho that it can do it should they allow it, so to speak.
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Also, keep in mind that NVIDIA GRID servers would be located on dedicated high-speed networks with very high uplink bandwidth. Most consumer internet access have capped upload speeds which are far below the download speed. For instance, 15Mbps download likely has 1.5Mbps upload. So for you to watch Netflix on SuperHD quality, the expected bandwidth requirement is 6Mbps. You could easily stream 2 HD movies over the same 15Mbps internet connection. But if you were to server it to someone else, you'd be 4x too slow. These games are streaming high quality game video, not some over-compressed artifact-laden mess. So while I'm sure there are ways around the LAN requirement, realize the bandwidth requirement of your uplink.
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Also, keep in mind that NVIDIA GRID servers would be located on dedicated high-speed networks with very high uplink bandwidth. Most consumer internet access have capped upload speeds which are far below the download speed. For instance, 15Mbps download likely has 1.5Mbps upload. So for you to watch Netflix on SuperHD quality, the expected bandwidth requirement is 6Mbps. You could easily stream 2 HD movies over the same 15Mbps internet connection. But if you were to server it to someone else, you'd be 4x too slow. These games are streaming high quality game video, not some over-compressed artifact-laden mess. So while I'm sure there are ways around the LAN requirement, realize the bandwidth requirement of your uplink.
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if only we all had google fiber.
glitchhawk said:
if only we all had google fiber.
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Google fiber is seriously making me want to move to Provo.
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I am curios to know if streaming over the internet is possible. I think the speed would be too slow to use.
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TESTED. SPLASHTOP 2 does support controller, (a few tweaks) and as long as I play games in "Windowed" for games that are not Splashtop stream supported. I can play over internet connection. I HAVE TESTED THIS with Crysis 2 in windowed mode at changing settings to 720. THIS IS 3rd party system not optimized like the Shield streaming and Nvidia Grid is. It works better if you are on the same provider, and have at the capability of a 4meg upload on both sides. best if you have like a 25/4. I have tried it over 4G LTE, it works but not great. So it is possible, but because you are pinging though remote server before you get to your PC, ping is higher than 200ms, most of the time closer to 250ms. that is tested on Charter Communications 30/4 with ping test at 20ms or lower. I am a senior tech with them and understanding the WWW infrastructure, server based streaming is still going to be far more viable. but as a test experiment, remote desktop streaming through splashtop in windowed mode does work... a bit laggy, but possible.
Based on the relationship Nvidia is building with Steam, and their Grid technology, it would not surprise me if we see very soon Steam offering a streaming over the internet service.
You would probably have to setup a VPN and connect to that at the moment
Was wondering the same thing too ... we have the NBN in Australia and it is 100Mbs down and 30Mbs up ... so think it could cope with it
Kris
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You would probably have to setup a VPN and connect to that at the moment
Was wondering the same thing too ... we have the NBN in Australia and it is 100Mbs down and 30Mbs up ... so think it could cope with it
Kris
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Someone has already done it in another thread... There's a guide on setting up VPN now for SHIELD.
Is that on the Nvidia site then? I've been searching xda...
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Is that on the Nvidia site then? I've been searching xda...
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No it is on XDA Under Nvidia Shield > Shield General > [GUIDE] How to setup VPN for game streaming
here is a link
I plan on using openvpn when i get around to it.
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https://forums.geforce.com/default/...connect-your-shield-to-vpn-for-remote-gaming/
Has anyone tinkered with the GeForce experience INI files to try and force notebook GPU streaming?
As a gaming laptop user (GTX 680m GPU) I am trying to patiently wait for official Nvidia support, but I think a lot of people would love a way to force streaming.
Perhaps we could even force streaming for those with CPUs / GPUs not officially compatible but powerful nonetheless.
I plan on giving it a go tonight and will post any findings or results!
Its nothing to do with GPU power. There is an actual hardware feature exclusive to NVidia cards which is not put into their mobile chipsets either. So AMD cards and laptops are not going to be streaming any time soon.
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Its nothing to do with GPU power. There is an actual hardware feature exclusive to NVidia cards which is not put into their mobile chipsets either. So AMD cards and laptops are not going to be streaming any time soon.
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I understand that (perhaps I should have phrased my original post better). My aim is to force streaming for all keplar based GPUs that would be capable of streaming from a hardware point of view, but are currently disabled / unsupported by the GeForce experience software.
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I understand that (perhaps I should have phrased my original post better). My aim is to force streaming for all keplar based GPUs that would be capable of streaming from a hardware point of view, but are currently disabled / unsupported by the GeForce experience software.
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I can tell you that you haven't understood. Put simply: not all kerplar chips are equal. The mobile "cards" may be NVidia but lack the streaming technology GeForce Experience uses. Only the desktop cards do. The laptop cards for all intents and purposes might aswell be AMD cards because both lack the hardware required. Its not actually keplar itself that is used for streaming, graphics cards have alot more support hardware besides the main keplar core (in the case of NVidia).
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I can tell you that you haven't understood. Put simply: not all kerplar chips are equal. The mobile "cards" may be NVidia but lack the streaming technology GeForce Experience uses. Only the desktop cards do. The laptop cards for all intents and purposes might aswell be AMD cards because both lack the hardware required. Its not actually keplar itself that is used for streaming, graphics cards have alot more support hardware besides the main keplar core (in the case of NVidia).
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It's still a good effort, sometimes GFE is overly-aggressive on blocking people, IMHO.
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I can tell you that you haven't understood. Put simply: not all kerplar chips are equal. The mobile "cards" may be NVidia but lack the streaming technology GeForce Experience uses. Only the desktop cards do. The laptop cards for all intents and purposes might aswell be AMD cards because both lack the hardware required. Its not actually keplar itself that is used for streaming, graphics cards have alot more support hardware besides the main keplar core (in the case of NVidia).
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Nvidia has stated that 660m+ GPUs are supported, but they want to begin the beta by testing desktop GPU streaming first. The purpose of this thread is forcing the streaming of those GPUs.
Any possible side effects of forcing the GeForce experience software to stream on unsupported hardware would just be icing on the cake.
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Just thought I'd mention that with the wireless capability of Shield, it works a lot better on Splashtop Streamer than other tablets and phones I've tried. Looked pretty playable to me, though not as good as default. Plus you have the ability to play anywhere you want, though you do need the anywhere access subscription.
Has anyone figured out the INI file thing? I have a capable GTX 680 but as agrabren and I have been corresponding about my Intel Xeons "do not meet minimum requirements."
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How do you configure the controller inputs when using splashtop?
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Just thought I'd mention that with the wireless capability of Shield, it works a lot better on Splashtop Streamer than other tablets and phones I've tried. Looked pretty playable to me, though not as good as default. Plus you have the ability to play anywhere you want, though you do need the anywhere access subscription.
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Its nothing to do with GPU power. There is an actual hardware feature exclusive to NVidia cards which is not put into their mobile chipsets either. So AMD cards and laptops are not going to be streaming any time soon.
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so is it possible to use this feature with other android devices? or is there a hardware feature on the shield side thats also required?
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so is it possible to use this feature with other android devices? or is there a hardware feature on the shield side thats also required?
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they are still trying to figure out if the shield's framework can be ported to other devices. until then only the shield can stream.
sneaky
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How do you configure the controller inputs when using splashtop?
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Well unfortunately you can't get the controller to work through that way exactly, but I found out a strange way for the keyboard to work and thus you could map a controller to that...if bluetooth works with splashtop that is.
It's weird, I have splashtop streamer running, and then plug my mouse and keyboard wireless stick into a usb2.0 to mini usb converter and then into my shield. Then while my shield recognizes it, everything works normal. I can even move my mouse on my PC's screen even though it's only plugged into Shield. So you could map those controls to a controller and maybe get it working through bluetooth, maybe a custom driver could get this working correct? I haven't tried a bluetooth controller yet as I don't have one. Anyway, you'd only really need to do this if you were away from home.
Otherwise, if your at home, you could just leave, for example, your xbox 360 wireless controller plugged into your PC and play in on shield's screen. Those 360 controllers have quite the range on them.
EDIT: disregard the confusion, obviously it should work like this since you are controlling through Shield your PC over wifi.....wow, still cool tho.
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so is it possible to use this feature with other android devices? or is there a hardware feature on the shield side thats also required?
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As far as I know the reason why the experience works so well on the shield is because of its tegra 4 doing the decoding of the stream.
It shouldn't be THAT big of a deal and other android devices should be able to do a passable job but Im sure the tegra 4 in the shield will make the difference
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Has anyone figured out the INI file thing? I have a capable GTX 680 but as agrabren and I have been corresponding about my Intel Xeons "do not meet minimum requirements."
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I've been looking into this and while this didn't work for me on my 650M, it may circumvent your CPU problem. I've attached a zip with reg file inside for you to try. This disables the compatibility checks in NvStreamSvc.exe.
I've got a larger writeup of my findings in the thread: "A quest to stream from mobile Kepler" (admittedly I didn't see this thread before posting mine).
Good luck!
EDIT: You'll need to either restart the "NVIDIA Streamer Service" in services.msc or just reboot your machine after applying the reg file for the changes to take effect. This won't change what GFE says about your configuration, but GFE isn't the one actually doing the compatibility checks for real
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I've been looking into this and while this didn't work for me on my 650M, it may circumvent your CPU problem. I've attached a zip with reg file inside for you to try. This disables the compatibility checks in NvStreamSvc.exe.
I've got a larger writeup of my findings in the thread: "A quest to stream from mobile Kepler" (admittedly I didn't see this thread before posting mine).
Good luck!
EDIT: You'll need to either restart the "NVIDIA Streamer Service" in services.msc or just reboot your machine after applying the reg file for the changes to take effect. This won't change what GFE says about your configuration, but GFE isn't the one actually doing the compatibility checks for real
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This workaround works like a charm for anyone who has a CPU that is not supported, but has a CPU that is faster than the Streaming requirements.
As user cgutman states, your rig will still show up as "Not Ready", but look for the "Streaming" section in GFE preferences once the update has been applied.
Flawless!
I wish I could buy you a beer, cgutman.
Thanks cgutman
Dr Jinx gave me the heads up, thanks a lot cgutman, you saved me a lot of trouble getting CPUs that should work to actually work
From an NVIDIA Employee/Mod over at the SHIELD forum:
"After discussion, we have decided not to whitelist CPUs for streaming anymore. While we will still recommend CPUs as before, we will no longer disable streaming to SHIELD if your CPU is not part of the whitelist."
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From an NVIDIA Employee/Mod over at the SHIELD forum:
"After discussion, we have decided not to whitelist CPUs for streaming anymore. While we will still recommend CPUs as before, we will no longer disable streaming to SHIELD if your CPU is not part of the whitelist."
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I'm get Q6600 and I have patch with this reg but my shield don't see my pc, anybody help me?
thanks and sorry for my bad english
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I've been looking into this and while this didn't work for me on my 650M, it may circumvent your CPU problem. I've attached a zip with reg file inside for you to try. This disables the compatibility checks in NvStreamSvc.exe.
I've got a larger writeup of my findings in the thread: "A quest to stream from mobile Kepler" (admittedly I didn't see this thread before posting mine).
Good luck!
EDIT: You'll need to either restart the "NVIDIA Streamer Service" in services.msc or just reboot your machine after applying the reg file for the changes to take effect. This won't change what GFE says about your configuration, but GFE isn't the one actually doing the compatibility checks for real
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I'm really tempted to buy a Shield. I have a 2012 iMac running Windows 7, with an i7 3770 3.4Ghz and 2GB Nvidia Geforce GTX 680MX, which is a pretty powerful card, all in all. Will your registry tweak allow the computer to stream to the Shield? I don't want the Shield unless it will work, you see!
Thank you in advance for any help!
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I'm really tempted to buy a Shield. I have a 2012 iMac running Windows 7, with an i7 3770 3.4Ghz and 2GB Nvidia Geforce GTX 680MX, which is a pretty powerful card, all in all. Will your registry tweak allow the computer to stream to the Shield? I don't want the Shield unless it will work, you see!
Thank you in advance for any help!
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You could start by installing Geforce Experience and see what it says about the ability to stream. I think with that card you should be able to stream.
My retired Dad living overseas has been playing with this device to stream shows from internet sites to his HDMI TV
Android 4.1 Dual core (A9) RK3066 1.2 - 1.6G, RAM DDR3 1GB, ROM 4GB WLAN WiFi 802.11 b/g/n.
and he is finding too much lag, breakup and buffering. When he watches the same source on his PC also connected via wifi there is no problem.
I want to find him an Android stick device with better performance than the one above that wont have the same problems.
We don't really need the processing power as he will not be using the device for anything else but do need hassle free video.
He wont be able to root, load roms etc. so it must work well out of the box.
What can the experts here recommend?
Thanks.
I would like to see a few comments as well.
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I would like to see a few comments as well.
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I am looking at the Tronsmart Mk908II or CX919.
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I am looking at the Tronsmart Mk908II or CX919.
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They both are good. The CX919 mite be better for me.
In any case a keyboard is a must.
First of all, let me list my Laptop specs
CPU: 3rd Generation Intel® Core™ i7-3630QM (2.40GHz 6MB Cache)
GPU:NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX660M 2GB with DirectX® 11
RAM: 8GB
I heard that the Nvidia shield officially doesn't support Laptop streaming, but has a good and reliable method for supporting streaming been released yet via third party app or something? If so, are there any good guides in order to do so(without screwing up any in the process?) I think i did hear that some laptops with some GPU(that i've never really heard of: Kepler I believe) can support it, but i'm not sure if my Laptop would fill the bill. I think I also heard something about optimus, but i don't even know what that is.
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First of all, let me list my Laptop specs
CPU: 3rd Generation Intel® Core™ i7-3630QM (2.40GHz 6MB Cache)
GPU:NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX660M 2GB with DirectX® 11
RAM: 8GB
I heard that the Nvidia shield officially doesn't support Laptop streaming, but has a good and reliable method for supporting streaming been released yet via third party app or something? If so, are there any good guides in order to do so(without screwing up any in the process?) I think i did hear that some laptops with some GPU(that i've never really heard of: Kepler I believe) can support it, but i'm not sure if my Laptop would fill the bill. I think I also heard something about optimus, but i don't even know what that is.
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Yea, Nvidia shield game streaing feature is NOT FORMALLY supported by Nvidia at the moment but it may come in near future. however, with the newer mobile GPUS ( keplet architecture based- such as series 600/700 etc) - u can probably try some other third party apps - ' splashtop + Droidmote combination ' - follow this link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2506438 .
some i heard tried kainy instead
Am in a similar situation like you with a mobile GPU GTX 680M but i am waiting for my shield to arrive, so can't confirm whether the methods mentioned above are good for smooth gameplay.
I'm not positive this will all still work for you, but cgutman worked on making streaming work from mobile kepler.
Check it out: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2394478
Specifically this post might be useful: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=47843410&postcount=91
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I'm not positive this will all still work for you, but cgutman worked on making streaming work from mobile kepler.
Check it out: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2394478
Specifically this post might be useful: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=47843410&postcount=91
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Okay guys, my Shield wont be coming until tomorrow. That said, I checked the above link, and it looks like someone got it working?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2394478&page=2
OMG!!!! It works. Credit to @cgutman!!!!!
Used the registry entry you provided. I am using a Lenovo Y400, that has the intel GPU disabled. It freaking works!!
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I have a Lenovo Y580 which isnt that much different from a 400. So maybe there is hope? Once I get it, i'll test it out, and maybe ask questions to things i dont understand
mobile streaming has been completely halted by nvidia in their latest updates. The only workaround that doesn't involve a 3rd party app (negating the native protocol support between tegra 4 and kepler) is to downgrade and then apply the reg fix. This also only works if you have a sole discrete gpu or can completely shut off optimus in the bios. poopoo to you nvidia.
Just as the title says.
Im looking for tan alternative because I cant use GS.
I saw the Kino Console thread around here and tried it and it runs really well, but doesnt work with steam big picture mode.
Splashtop works somewhat and Kainy for me its just awful.
Im out of alternatives, right?
Limelight
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I heard about it, yes. But I from what I've read it's worse than these two
Thanks for the suggestion, anyway
But right now Kino decided to work with my pc and my shield tablet, and I played some Fifa 14, and the result was quite satisfactory. Where I live, (Chile) I dont have high Internet speeds though