The first run (rev. 10) has poor compatibility with a lot of qi chargers so I have steered clear until now. Now that prices have come down and it isn't quite as niche a product as it was a year ago I'm thinking about it again.
There are a lot of them to sort through so I figured I'd ask the forum while I continue my own searching. What name brand (not ebay generics) qi chargers have you found that work perfectly with a rev. 10 n4? I'm definitely looking to avoid charge/not charging loops and not keeping the phone topped off.
Particularly I'm interested in the new Nexus Wireless Charger and the TYLT VU but I haven't been able to find specific examples of them with rev 10. Feel free to make other suggestions.
Sorry I'm lost .. what is rev. 10? (and how do I check what rev I have)
Are there listed differences by rev as well? Never nind.. found them here http://celltraderonline.com/showthr...e-Difference-Nexus-4-REV-10-Vs-Nexus-4-REV-11
I did high tech manufacturing for over a decade and many consumers don't realize that cost reductions, part changes, improvements etc occur all the time and are tracked by the manufacturer in many different ways. The worst way is by serial number... other ways include revisions, product codes, release numbers etc.
I've been using the Panasonic charge pad with my Rev11. Beautiful device.
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Sorry I'm lost .. what is rev. 10? (and how do I check what rev I have)
Are there listed differences by rev as well? Never nind.. found them here http://celltraderonline.com/showthr...e-Difference-Nexus-4-REV-10-Vs-Nexus-4-REV-11
I did high tech manufacturing for over a decade and many consumers don't realize that cost reductions, part changes, improvements etc occur all the time and are tracked by the manufacturer in many different ways. The worst way is by serial number... other ways include revisions, product codes, release numbers etc.
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The early revisions 10/11 are known to be particularly qi picky (especially with the old nokia chargers). You can see the revision in the bootloader.
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I've been using the Panasonic charge pad with my Rev11. Beautiful device.
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Forgot about that one too bad it doesn't top off.
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The early revisions 10/11 are known to be particularly qi picky (especially with the old nokia chargers). You can see the revision in the bootloader.
Forgot about that one too bad it doesn't top off.
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well i do have to say that i saw this, my friend who lived in usa got a n4 and it was rev_10, when he came to my home he tried to charge hes n4 with my nokia qi charger and it didnt work. i tried with mine(rev_14) and it worked. also some nfc tags didnt work on hes n4, but i bet its a revision issue.
I wake up with my Nexus 4 around 87% with the Panasonicm I pick it up check my stuff and throw it back down when I get ready. Not a big issue, but the fact I can throw it on anywhere is perfect.
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I wake up with my Nexus 4 around 87% with the Panasonicm I pick it up check my stuff and throw it back down when I get ready. Not a big issue, but the fact I can throw it on anywhere is perfect.
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My usage pretty much requires a full charge when I wake up so while I agree the Panasonic seems to be a great charger it just isn't for me.
I took a small keep of faith and used the 30% T-Mobile discount to experiment with the TYLT VU. Happily I'm able to report that it works flawlessly with my picky rev.10 model. I've yet to pick up my phone and have it read anything but charged or 100%.
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i use LG WCP-300 to charge my rev10 nexus 4, works really well, really small too. bought it from the verizon online store.
1 thing to note is not to worry about the heat or overcharging, it will automatically stop charging when it reaches 100%.
review from our fellow member:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2166837
Mine DOESN'T fully charge to 100% it slows at 95 and stops at 98 and I have to pull it off and wait a few minutes before putting it back on and it cuts off at 100% and that's not practical for me as it drops to around 90 overnight unlike my nexus 7 2013 which charges to 100 and stays there. That's why I charge nexus 4 with cable and nexus 7 wirelessly.
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I dont have any issues on the Nexus ORB. It works fantastic and gets to 100%.
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My usage pretty much requires a full charge when I wake up so while I agree the Panasonic seems to be a great charger it just isn't for me.
I took a small keep of faith and used the 30% T-Mobile discount to experiment with the TYLT VU. Happily I'm able to report that it works flawlessly with my picky rev.10 model. I've yet to pick up my phone and have it read anything but charged or 100%.
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My N4 is a Rev 11 and I've had the TYLT VU for a couple of weeks now. The first several days it would only charge to 93% but lately it has started to charge to 96% or 98%, only once has it given me a full charge to 100%. I emailed the folks at TYLT over a week ago and have yet to receive a response. I'm not sure if it's the charger, the phone or if the battery stats are just wrong. If anyone has any suggestions let me know. I do like the charger though.
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I dont have a nexus 4, and wont for a couple of months, but since it doesnt have a removeable battery, these portable chargers might be useful.
2200MAH
2600MAH (these look really nice)
Have you tried them? I'm wondering what the reliability is like, do they quickly lose the power to hold charge?
I prefer the looks of this one better. Almost 6 full charges, for 3 dollars more than ordering and carrying around 6 of those things.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003ZBZ64Q/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&smid=A3GSCL19TAH7YV
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Have you tried them? I'm wondering what the reliability is like, do they quickly lose the power to hold charge?
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Ive tried the second one with my Epic 4G Touch. It drops about 1% each day that it isnt being used. It can charge my Epic (1800MAH) once, and the second time, goes about 35%
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I prefer the looks of this one better. Almost 6 full charges, for 3 dollars more than ordering and carrying around 6 of those things.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003ZBZ64Q/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&smid=A3GSCL19TAH7YV
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makes sense, but its a bit bulky for many people.
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Ive tried the second one with my Epic 4G Touch. It drops about 1% each day that it isnt being used. It can charge my Epic (1800MAH) once, and the second time, goes about 35%
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I see, does it break easily though? or are you still using it now?
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I see, does it break easily though? or are you still using it now?
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im Still using it. Its normally in my backpack with my phone plugged in charging. Its not as strong as steel though
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im Still using it. Its normally in my backpack with my phone plugged in charging. Its not as strong as steel though
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Ok, Thanks.
The second one looks portable and not much $$.
Thanks
An important thing to note is that if your phone has a 2100mAh battery and you have a 2100mAh portable charger, you will not get a full charge out of it, as some is lost in transition. You will usually only get between 2/3 to 3/4 of the capacity of the portable charger transferred to your phone.
I have this for my Atrix 4G and will use it for my Nexus 4 when my back order ships. The Atrix 4G has an 1880mAh battery, and I get about two charges out of it. It is about twice as thick as the Atrix, but about half as wide and about an inch shorter. It also functions as a laser pointer and flashlight. It is rugged enough that I bring it camping with me and don't treat it with much care and it still works fine. Very solidly built.
I bought something like this from a seller on ebay, it came from china. It broke right away, but it seems people are having better luck then I did.
I really like the first one in the OP. I like that it can easily be plugged into the phone while using it. I just wish the capacity was a little bigger.
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Anyone have experience with or can recommend a unit that is direct plugged and not needing a USB cable? Something more for emergency charging that is pocket portable carried for backup use for uses such as a quick charge at a concert or sporting event. Carried in blue jean pocket are a other small pocket.
I just ordered this for $23. It looks really thin and has a retractable micro usb plug, which is huge for me. This may be good for the person who just posted before me too:
http://www.amazon.com/SlimTalk-Exte...TF8&qid=1353778188&sr=8-7&keywords=Anker+slim
I also ordered this one for my wife:
http://www.amazon.com/Anker®-Astro-...UTF8&qid=1353778415&sr=8-1&keywords=Anker+lip
In addition, the company, Anker, also has a few bigger models with a lot more capacity if you're interested. I haven't bought any of their products before, but the reviews all seem to be very positive.
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Anyone have experience with or can recommend a unit that is direct plugged and not needing a USB cable? Something more for emergency charging that is pocket portable carried for backup use for uses such as a quick charge at a concert or sporting event. Carried in blue jean pocket are a other small pocket.
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The first one in my op seems like it would fit the bill
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The first one in my op seems like it would fit the bill
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The only problem is it seems like the first one won't get you a full charge.
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Oh, I forgot about that. If you do some searching on eBay and amazon you can probably find some with 2600mah
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Was just wondering what chargers are you guys using? Im gonna be getting my nexus 4 right after christmas. (Stupid backorder)
I'm using the LG one and it works great. The beep really isn't nearly as loud as everyone exaggerated.... but if it bothers you I hear removing it is really easy and there's instructions in one of the threads on how to do it.
LG one with the beeper taken out.
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Is there a list of what chargers work with reviews/prices?
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I'm using the LG one and it works great. The beep really isn't nearly as loud as everyone exaggerated.... but if it bothers you I hear removing it is really easy and there's instructions in one of the threads on how to do it.
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Someone in another thread mentioned that it charges to 100%, then it disconnects until the battery hits 90% or so before it starts charging again. They mentioned they leave it on the charger overnight, and in the morning it'll say it's been on battery for 3 hours and at a 90% charge.
Does it do this to you? Or do you find it charged up to 100%?
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Someone in another thread mentioned that it charges to 100%, then it disconnects until the battery hits 90% or so before it starts charging again. They mentioned they leave it on the charger overnight, and in the morning it'll say it's been on battery for 3 hours and at a 90% charge.
Does it do this to you? Or do you find it charged up to 100%?
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The other day I did wake up to my phone at 96% and it said it had been off for 5 hours. But today I woke up to it at 100%. I wouldn't doubt that it stops charging at 100% and then recharges back up at 96%, though I don't believe it drops as low as 90%. I've read many things in the past about people saying phones do stop charging at 96% because it's healthier for battery life and that the last 4% are cosmetic. Don't hold me to that though =P
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My N4 is on backorder for about 4 weeks. I hope google announces that wireless charging orb by then.
I bought both the LG and the Energizer single-position. Haven't had the problems that other people have mentioned with the LG unit beeping more than once (when I first put the phone down and it starts charging), even when left on overnight and after the battery is full.
The Energizer is bigger all around than the LG and is much more sensitive about getting the phone in the right spot - and since it doesn't beep, you have to just watch for the blue LED (which is bright as heck in the dark; I put a piece of tint over it).
Ended up taking the Energizer to work, and I've got an LG next to the bed and another in my home office. As far as actually charging, both models work fine and I've not done any testing on speed, etc.
Is this what you guys are using?
http://www.ebay.ie/itm/OEM-VERIZON-...ccessories&hash=item2578538a87#ht_4148wt_1247
Yes, the LG WCP-700. Looks like the prices have gone up to $50 from the $35 I paid just a week ago.
http://www.amazon.com/LG-WCP-700-Portable-Office-Charging/dp/B005DMBSVA
we cant get anything here in australia... everything is US based i search atleast once a week for a wireless charger lol
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we cant get anything here in australia... everything is US based i search atleast once a week for a wireless charger lol
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i bought the LG WCP-700 from ebay.com.au posted from the US. Should arrive this week. I'll post back here if i have to mod it to work with Aussie power supply.
I'm using a Energizer single charger. Love that it doesn't make a single sound. Quiet as a mouse.
So far it's charging well. :thumbup:
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I bought both the LG and the Energizer single-position. Haven't had the problems that other people have mentioned with the LG unit beeping more than once (when I first put the phone down and it starts charging), even when left on overnight and after the battery is full.
The Energizer is bigger all around than the LG and is much more sensitive about getting the phone in the right spot - and since it doesn't beep, you have to just watch for the blue LED (which is bright as heck in the dark; I put a piece of tint over it).
Ended up taking the Energizer to work, and I've got an LG next to the bed and another in my home office. As far as actually charging, both models work fine and I've not done any testing on speed, etc.
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Interesting. I have the Energizer one, and I don't think it's picky at all in regards to placement
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Panasonic tm101 In white when it gets here...
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Panasonic tm101 In white when it gets here...
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where did you order that from?
Hi guys,
I'm relatively new to this forum and I was wondering if anyone here have had any experienced with a standard generic Qi charger from China. I'd recently purchased one online and have been using it for over 2 days now without any problems.
My intention was to actually try this product first before I get a charger from reputable brands such as Energizer or even the Nexus Orb. Is there any difference between these charging pad or should I just stick to the one I have now?
Thanks
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it would be helpful if you can mention the brand name or post a pic, if you still cant provide url. i'm recently ordering fasttech wireless charger too, still waiting to be delivered.
As long as it is charging the device, and it doesn't feel like it is getting too hot, then I would stay with what you got.
I think the benefit of the orb is that it holds it at an angle so you can see it while sitting, but that is just a small benefit that normally doesn't matter.
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it would be helpful if you can mention the brand name or post a pic, if you still cant provide url. i'm recently ordering fasttech wireless charger too, still waiting to be delivered.
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I'll try to post the picture once I'm able to do it. I did also tried to post the URL from the website I got it from but was unable too do it yet due to I'm a new member.
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As long as it is charging the device, and it doesn't feel like it is getting too hot, then I would stay with what you got.
I think the benefit of the orb is that it holds it at an angle so you can see it while sitting, but that is just a small benefit that normally doesn't matter.
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Thanks for the suggestion. So far, my phone is charging well and the device is not getting extremely hot. However, I've only been using it for 2 days and will report back after a week
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I'm finally able to post URL and pictures. Here's the URL (and picture) from where I got the wireless charger - http://m.mudah.my/view?q=Qi+charger&cg=0&ca=8_1_s&e=0&female_subcat=&o=1&ad_id=20049590
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I'm finally able to post URL and pictures. Here's the URL (and picture) from where I got the wireless charger - http://m.mudah.my/view?q=Qi+charger&cg=0&ca=8_1_s&e=0&female_subcat=&o=1&ad_id=20049590
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Those look like the fasttech chargers being sold. It should work fine as others have reported.
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Those look like the fasttech chargers being sold. It should work fine as others have reported.
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yea, but it's sold for way more expensive. here's the thread that discusses about it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2074862
anyway, if i were you i will stick with it. if i want it to charge my phone while it's sitting in an angle, i will make my own dock...
I bought this one for 44 EUR from a Chinese Ebay store. Don`t get one of these. Mine worked flawless for 2 weeks till one day it refused to make a connection with my N4. I think its made from real low quality components... Waste of money.
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I bought this one for 44 EUR from a Chinese Ebay store. Don`t get one of these. Mine worked flawless for 2 weeks till one day it refused to make a connection with my N4. I think its made from real low quality components... Waste of money.
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Ouch! I've already bought it. Will see how it behaves in the next two weeks to come. Thanks for the feedback.
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Just got a fasttech charger, figured Id give it a shot. Makes me appreciate the orb more and makes me feel better about spending twice as much on the orb. The orb uses micro USB (aka universal), secures the phone and doesnt have the obnoxious blue LED on it. Also, the fasttech seems finicky about charging, you have to get it just right. The orb doesnt seem to care.
Something weird happened to my charging pad last night. Apparently, I wanted to gauge how long will it take for the pad to charge my Nexus 4 to 100% from 10%. So after making sure that my battery was at 10%, I left it on the charger and went to bed.
However earlier this morning, I find that my battery was only at 84% charged (after nearly 5 hours of charging). A quick look at the battery stats shows that it charged normally from 10% to 80% and then dropped down to 70% (on battery and pad did not charged, I reckoned). After that, it was charging again to 84% and stayed flat at that percentage till morning. Weird right?
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was your phone vibrated sometime during the night that caused it to move?
I don't think so because I set JuiceDefender to switch my device to Airplane mode at night. It's really weird...
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Just wanted to report my experience with battery life which seemed to be degrading over time and not really reaching 100% every time anymore. I did the usual tricks to get the battery to charge fully like pulling the battery when the phone is still plugged in, but had to do it every couple of days because the battery would max out at about 80%. Bought a new charger off newegg (Samsung oem), problem solved. Charges faster than ever, and holds a charge better too. The old charger is the one that came with the phone.
On a related note, I first bought the new charger from Amazon, but returned it because it turned out to be a fake. Read the Amazon reviews, I'm surprised they still sell it after so many complaints. Newegg is the way to go for this one.
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Just wanted to report my experience with battery life which seemed to be degrading over time and not really reaching 100% every time anymore. I did the usual tricks to get the battery to charge fully like pulling the battery when the phone is still plugged in, but had to do it every couple of days because the battery would max out at about 80%. Bought a new charger off newegg (Samsung oem), problem solved. Charges faster than ever, and holds a charge better too. The old charger is the one that came with the phone.
On a related note, I first bought the new charger from Amazon, but returned it because it turned out to be a fake. Read the Amazon reviews, I'm surprised they still sell it after so many complaints. Newegg is the way to go for this one.
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Uhhhhhhhh?
Sent from my mom's basement.
Its been established many times that our phone doesn't like many chargers other than our cube. Whether it was a difference in power output or something else I can't recall as for your issue it sounds like a wake lock of some sort may have been created with said charger that would cause a faster than normal discharge rate causing the charger to be unable to charge past 80% the effect could also be that the output of the charger was not 1amp and the phone couldn't get what it needed in the time you allotted. Really I can't say exactly what the issue is in your case but if you had searched you would see much of this has in fact been documented.
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Its been established many times that our phone doesn't like many chargers other than our cube. Whether it was a difference in power output or something else I can't recall as for your issue it sounds like a wake lock of some sort may have been created with said charger that would cause a faster than normal discharge rate causing the charger to be unable to charge past 80% the effect could also be that the output of the charger was not 1amp and the phone couldn't get what it needed in the time you allotted. Really I can't say exactly what the issue is in your case but if you had searched you would see much of this has in fact been documented.
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If you actually read my post, you'll know that the new charger is the cube, that is what I meant by OEM. I posted this so other users can consider buying a new charger if they've tried everything else and failed. No need to do the "search and you would have found out" response for this post, cause no question was asked, I was merely sharing my experience.
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If you actually read my post, you'll know that the new charger is the cube, that is what I meant by OEM. I posted this so other users can consider buying a new charger if they've tried everything else and failed. No need to do the "search and you would have found out" response for this post, cause no question was asked, I was merely sharing my experience.
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Issue being you created a whole new thread on a subject that already exists breaking rule 1 and further cluttering the section.
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Please, abide by XDA posting rules and use search before posting duplicate threads/posts.
So here is the deal... I have been a Verizon customer for years, and I am just sick and tired of them jerking me around and upping their rates, taking away unlimited data, taking away early upgrades, etc. So I am thinking of jumping ship and going to Net10. I am currently using the HTC Rezound which seems to be roughly roughly equivalent to the Skyrocket (Yes, I know I will not get true 4G/LTE on Net10, only HSPA+). I can get a new, sealed in the box Galaxy S2 Skyrocket (SGH-i727) for about $210 on eBay.
So where I am going with this, knowing Samsung has had quality models and, well, lets just say questionable models, how is the Skyrocket? Is it solid and relatively problem free? How is battery life, is it easy to unlock, root, ROM, return to stock, etc? Has anyone used this on Net10/StraightTalk?
So basically I am just looking for people's opinion of the phone in general, from a heavy phone users perspective... My other alternative's at this time are a new unlocked HTC Vivid which I can get new for just under $200, or just suck it up and grab a Nexus 4 from Google, although the $350+tax and shipping for the 16GB model would hurt, a lot, right now.
Thoughts?
I, along with most other power users here in the skyrocket forum will tell you that this is a great device. Rooting, rom-ing, and general modifications are a breeze as long as you read the stickies and have an ounce of common sense. Battery life is subjective to individual use, but I generally get around 12-15 hours with 3-5 hours screen on time. This can be extended significantly with a nexus extended battery and a minor modification (see accessories section for details). Hardware wise it it solid. The only common issue we've really seen is the power button failing for some users, I've had mine since it was released though with no issue so far. We have official support for CM, Slim Bean, PACMAN, and Avatar ROM (maybe more but I can't remember off hand), and ports or unofficial builds of just about everything else you'd want. Also, 4.3 is being worked on hard by our fine devs, and it seems that external speaker audio is the only thing preventing a beta release for most roms at the moment.
The community is, for the most part, knowledgeable and willing to assist with any problems you have as long as you attempted to do your homework first.
Any other questions, let me know. Otherwise, I'll extend a tentative welcome to the Skyrocket family.
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bps119 said:
I, along with most other power users here in the skyrocket forum will tell you that this is a great device. Rooting, rom-ing, and general modifications are a breeze as long as you read the stickies and have an ounce of common sense. Battery life is subjective to individual use, but I generally get around 12-15 hours with 3-5 hours screen on time. This can be extended significantly with a nexus extended battery and a minor modification (see accessories section for details). Hardware wise it it solid. The only common issue we've really seen is the power button failing for some users, I've had mine since it was released though with no issue so far. We have official support for CM, Slim Bean, PACMAN, and Avatar ROM (maybe more but I can't remember off hand), and ports or unofficial builds of just about everything else you'd want. Also, 4.3 is being worked on hard by our fine devs, and it seems that external speaker audio is the only thing preventing a beta release for most roms at the moment.
The community is, for the most part, knowledgeable and willing to assist with any problems you have as long as you attempted to do your homework first.
Any other questions, let me know. Otherwise, I'll extend a tentative welcome to the Skyrocket family.
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Thanks for the info!!! I really appreciate it!!!
One more quick question, does the Skyrocket use a standard sized SIM, or one of the newer micro-SIMs?
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Thanks for the info!!! I really appreciate it!!!
One more quick question, does the Skyrocket use a standard sized SIM, or one of the newer micro-SIMs?
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Standard.
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One issue bothers me a lot. I cannot use the phone for navigation for more than 2 hours even with car charger connected. In about 2 hours, it drains out fully. My latest theory is that after about 30 mins of charging, the battery starts heating up, and so it stops charging.
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One issue bothers me a lot. I cannot use the phone for navigation for more than 2 hours even with car charger connected. In about 2 hours, it drains out fully. My latest theory is that after about 30 mins of charging, the battery starts heating up, and so it stops charging.
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User error or bad unit I have zero issues with my GPS or car charging. Also what amperage is your car charger capable of outputting.
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User error or bad unit I have zero issues with my GPS or car charging. Also what amperage is your car charger capable of outputting.
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I am not 100% sure in terms of the amperage. But I tried with a car charger capable of charging a laptop, using the wall charger and cable which came with the phone. I was sitting in the passenger seat, phone was in my lap (not mounted in windshield) and Google Maps was running in navigation mode. For the first 15 minutes or so, I saw that the phone was charging. The charge level increased by 1% or 2%. After I think 20 minutes, it stopped charging. CPU-Z app was showing battery status as
health: over heated or heated (don't remember clearly the text)
power source: connected
status: not charging or discharing
Phone's back was very hot. I unplugged the USB cable and connected it back, and it started charging again! I waited for it to cool down, removed the phone case, repeated this and got the same result.
This is why I believe the phone is doing something to protect it from over heating. I am not sure though.
Well, I placed my order and should have my Skyrocket by the end of the week, and already have my Net10 SIM and $50 Unlimited card! So basically I am saying you will see more of me around here in the future. Thanks again bps119!
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I am not 100% sure in terms of the amperage. But I tried with a car charger capable of charging a laptop, using the wall charger and cable which came with the phone. I was sitting in the passenger seat, phone was in my lap (not mounted in windshield) and Google Maps was running in navigation mode. For the first 15 minutes or so, I saw that the phone was charging. The charge level increased by 1% or 2%. After I think 20 minutes, it stopped charging. CPU-Z app was showing battery status as
health: over heated or heated (don't remember clearly the text)
power source: connected
status: not charging or discharing
Phone's back was very hot. I unplugged the USB cable and connected it back, and it started charging again! I waited for it to cool down, removed the phone case, repeated this and got the same result.
This is why I believe the phone is doing something to protect it from over heating. I am not sure though.
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Amperage is important son too little it will discharge, I think it will limit if too much. Nav can cause some heat for some of these guys but I've never heard of it getting that high my guess is something was wrong.
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mtdew said:
Amperage is important son too little it will discharge, I think it will limit if too much. Nav can cause some heat for some of these guys but I've never heard of it getting that high my guess is something was wrong.
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Sorry for off topic. Can you please recommend a charger, preferable the one you are using?
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Sorry for off topic. Can you please recommend a charger, preferable the one you are using?
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I have gotten my last few chargers at Sam's Club, they are about $10, and are rated at [email protected]
In an older phone I had a similar issue where my phone would overheat and not charge properly, once I got a new charger I cut the end off the old one and read the voltage with a meter, it was putting out almost 7.1v (should be 4.75-5.25vDC for USB 1.0-2.0 standard, and 5.25-5.75vDC for USB 3.0), pretty sure that is what caused it... cheap components equals cheap quality and flaws. Current rating should be irrelevant, as long as it meets the devices minimum requirements (most modern phones are [email protected]), even if a charger is rated at 2, 3, or even 5 amps, the device should not draw more than it can handle. Current is drawn, not pushed, a device will draw the needed current at the expected voltage, you can't really "over-current" a device by using a power source that is rated at the proper voltage but a higher current. Similar instance can occur by using a charger that has too low of a current rating, the device will try to draw more current than the adapter is rated at and the adapter will eventually fail or fall out of specifications.
Some other good chargers are by Anker, PowerGen, or RAVPower, and of course a Samsung branded adapter will work well, most all of these can be purchased for $8-$15 on Amazon. If the adapter is not rated with a current rating, then skip it, it is probably only 600ma-750ma and will be more headache than it's worth in the long run.
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I have gotten my last few chargers at Sam's Club, they are about $10, and are rated at [email protected]
In an older phone I had a similar issue where my phone would overheat and not charge properly, once I got a new charger I cut the end off the old one and read the voltage with a meter, it was putting out almost 7.1v (should be 4.75-5.25vDC for USB 1.0-2.0 standard, and 5.25-5.75vDC for USB 3.0), pretty sure that is what caused it... cheap components equals cheap quality and flaws. Current rating should be irrelevant, as long as it meets the devices minimum requirements (most modern phones are [email protected]), even if a charger is rated at 2, 3, or even 5 amps, the device should not draw more than it can handle. Current is drawn, not pushed, a device will draw the needed current at the expected voltage, you can't really "over-current" a device by using a power source that is rated at the proper voltage but a higher current. Similar instance can occur by using a charger that has too low of a current rating, the device will try to draw more current than the adapter is rated at and the adapter will eventually fail or fall out of specifications.
Some other good chargers are by Anker, PowerGen, or RAVPower, and of course a Samsung branded adapter will work well, most all of these can be purchased for $8-$15 on Amazon. If the adapter is not rated with a current rating, then skip it, it is probably only 600ma-750ma and will be more headache than it's worth in the long run.
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Good to see that we're getting a new user who actually does their homework. :thumbup:
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acejavelin said:
Well, I placed my order and should have my Skyrocket by the end of the week, and already have my Net10 SIM and $50 Unlimited card! So basically I am saying you will see more of me around here in the future. Thanks again bps119!
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Just like to say great. I love my skyrocket. Over clocked at 1.78ghz and 320mhz gpu . great performance. Also with nexus extended battery for $6.50 at sprint. I have no reason to buy another phone. Welcome to the skyrocket community.
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I have an HTC Sensation and today I rooted my friend's Skyrocket. I must say, EVERYTHING about the Skyrocket amazed me in terms of performance, ease of use, and quality even though it's very similar in hardware specs to my own phone (both are MSM8x60). Rooting the phone only took about 3 minutes (installed TWRP; there was no locked-bootloader crap to deal with) and the colors on the touchscreen are wonderful, not to mention the sensitivity of the screen is great as well. The Skyrocket has official CM10.1 going for it so I installed that and it's fantastic; everything runs perfectly. Even while using the kernel included in CM10.1 the device was very fast but when I overclocked it, the performance blew me away, not to mention the phone didn't heat up at all (even while gaming!); compared to that, my HTC hits 70°C while gaming on CM10.1 at stock CPU/GPU frequencies. Rooting my friend's Skyrocket today has thoroughly convinced me to never buy an HTC again Also, the Skyrocket has great dev support seeing as how CM10.1 is official for it.
TL;DR: The Skyrocket is way better than your HTC and, in terms of development, it's not gonna die any time soon.
unni_kmr said:
One issue bothers me a lot. I cannot use the phone for navigation for more than 2 hours even with car charger connected. In about 2 hours, it drains out fully. My latest theory is that after about 30 mins of charging, the battery starts heating up, and so it stops charging.
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The Skyrocket (and several other Samsung phones) need special "type 2" chargers. Apple charges are type 6, so if it says compatible with Apple, don't use it as it may not work. If the two center pins on the USB port doesn't have a 50 ohm resistor across them (or not shorted) , the Skyrocket will only draw 350 mA. Samsung and older Curve BlackBerry chargers have the resistor. At 350 mA, the phone draws more than the charger is providing, and the charger circuitry heats up trying to keep up with demand.
Jrockttu has a great thread under General called "Fix your Skyrockets battery life"
I've MOD'd all of my chargers, now my phone is happy with the screen on all day while driving and it stays charged, or charges slowly...
Tim
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I recently got rid of my Skyrocket. It was a good device, but a bad phone. The built-in microphone is terrible, people were always screaming that they couldn't hear me unless I used a headset. The signal was poor too, and I would often not receive calls (with no missed call notification or anything).
The Cyanogenmod support is good, and for an old device it runs plenty smooth and plays all the games I throw at it. So it's not bad in that regard. But the actual phone functionality was a real problem for me.
frogacuda said:
i recently got rid of my skyrocket. It was a good device, but a bad phone. The built-in microphone is terrible, people were always screaming that they couldn't hear me unless i used a headset. The signal was poor too, and i would often not receive calls (with no missed call notification or anything).
The cyanogenmod support is good, and for an old device it runs plenty smooth and plays all the games i throw at it. So it's not bad in that regard. But the actual phone functionality was a real problem for me.
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user error
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mtdew said:
Faulty device or user error.
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lol didn't see your post
acejavelin said:
Well, I placed my order and should have my Skyrocket by the end of the week, and already have my Net10 SIM and $50 Unlimited card! So basically I am saying you will see more of me around here in the future. Thanks again bps119!
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Well, my Skyrocket arrived, looked great and appeared to be "new"... I fired it up and everything looked fine, but it wouldn't recognize the SIM card, just said "NO SIM INSTALLED - EMERGENCY CALLING ONLY" and wouldn't let me do anything in mobile networks at all (said something about must be registered to a network first), so I popped in an actual AT&T SIM, same result, and both SIM cards work in my old HTC Aria. Called the guy I bought it from on eBay, have to send it back and he will send me another new one. Hope this isn't a bad omen.
That sucks man, kinda takes the excitement out of getting the new phone. Oh well, forget it ever happened and hope that it was just a fluke.
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Honestly, you'll love the skyrocket. I've had mine for a little over a year and a half and it's more up-to-date than my girlfriend's s3. It's faster and lasts longer on battery as well. Although her s3 isn't rooted, being a newer device, you would think it would work better than mine. Not the case!
If you're trying to unlock your phone, there is an unlocking thread you could check out, although I'm not on touchwiz so I couldn't do it, others have had success with it so you shouldn't have to worry there. We're a great community, just like we've been when I first rooted a year and a half ago. Enjoy!