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I'm using AOSP+ ICS ROM with the latest Matr1x kernel. Whenever I try to OC to 1460 the phone freezes and I have to pull the battery, so I'm forced to run at a maximum of 1300MHz.
Also, on a related matter, is it good practice to use SetCPU with various profiles (battery<, temp>, screenoff, charging) for various frequencies? Or should I just use AOSP+ tweaks to chose a min and max frequency and let it be?
Thanks for taking the time to answer these.
Raise all voltages by +30 across the board
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My Phone freezes when i try to OC to 1460
Read the above comment or read my FAQ...god..
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zgomot said:
Also, on a related matter, is it good practice to use SetCPU with various profiles (battery<, temp>, screenoff, charging) for various frequencies? Or should I just use AOSP+ tweaks to chose a min and max frequency and let it be?
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If you are using deep idle you shouldn't underclock since it causes a race-to-idle condition. In other words your battery will drain faster. If you don't use deep idle, feel free to underclock when the screen is off or whatever you want.
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If you are using deep idle you shouldn't underclock since it causes a race-to-idle condition. In other words your battery will drain faster. If you don't use deep idle, feel free to underclock when the screen is off or whatever you want.
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To the point and verry helpful, thanks a bunch
mathkid95 said:
Raise all voltages by +30 across the board
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Can I do this via AOSP+ tweaks and still use SetCpu to OC and UC? Are they conflicting apps? (Deep idle OFF)
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I would recommend just using setcpu
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Raise all voltages by +30 across the board
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Just an update, Using CNA 1.4.0 and Matr1x v17, I am stable oc'ed to 1460.
this is what I am running
1)800/1460
2)gov =Ondemand
3)Scheduler =Noop
4)all voltages to +30 (used the cna rom's voltage tweaker)
I tried ShadowGun: the Leftover.. and It was flying. Of course, make sure that have enough battery or that you have a charger ready. But finally it works, try this and let me know
I can run it for 10-20 min of usage then get a freeze. I never raised the voltages before though. It seems like its working for other people. And the actual developer of Matrix Kernel is telling you to ....
Nexus S (GSM i9020a)
AOKP (Build 25)
Eugene's Kernel (Speedy 7)
OC 800/100 (Lionheart)
Live OC (105)
It still amazes me how so many people that ask about overclocking have no frigging idea at all how cpus/gpus in general are binned etc.
I have a question. Why do you guys overclock that much? It might be snappy but battery life is just bad and it just doesn't worth it in my opinion.
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It still amazes me how so many people that ask about overclocking have no frigging idea at all how cpus/gpus in general are binned etc.
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Care to shed some light for us people that have no frigging idea at all how cpus/gpus in general are binned etc? If not, well... why did you even bother posting?
ljordan2 said:
I have a question. Why do you guys overclock that much? It might be snappy but battery life is just bad and it just doesn't worth it in my opinion.
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Personally, I do it because I can. Seriously... I'm a geek, I love gadgets and tech and I like to tinker.
On the subject at hand, I'm still unable to OC to 1460 (ARM voltages +30, INT voltages +25) but at 1300 it runs fine, no issues whatsoever.
i can run 1460 stable all day. bigxie/matrix. just did +30 to all the voltages above 1000. deadline and lulzactive..
If you are a geek you would know about something as simple as binning chips. Do what a tech geek would do...look it up. Same thing the op should have done with his ?. Hell mathkid has a answer to his ? In the op of his kernel thread. Which is the kernel he is running
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If you are a geek you would know about something as simple as binning chips. Do what a tech geek would do...look it up. Same thing the op should have done with his ?. Hell mathkid has a answer to his ? In the op of his kernel thread. Which is the kernel he is running
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You're kinda bitter for someone married to a busty redhead
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You're kinda bitter for someone married to a busty redhead
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Haha, I thought so too.
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Hey guys will overclocking drain the battery quicker even with stock voltages?
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Different voltages are specified as stock for different frequencies. As the frequency changes, the voltage does too. Running 1200mhz with the stock 1000mhz voltage will probably cause instability and crashing.
Harrb, great post.
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And if increase voltage, the power consumption should also increase.
i haven't played with voltages yet but in my experience the benefits of overclocking are minimal anyway, and they make nexus reboot often and other bad things :/
With the right settings you can get a fully stable and functional overclock, but it is on a per-phone basis due to varying quality of the same CPU during manufacture.
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Different voltages are specified as stock for different frequencies. As the frequency changes, the voltage does too. Running 1200mhz with the stock 1000mhz voltage will probably cause instability and crashing.
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Currently I'm using icup kernel speedy 5 clocked at 1.4 and its been extremely stable. So what your saying is that the voltages automatically increase when I select a higher frequency, because I did not change them manually.
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Currently I'm using icup kernel speedy 5 clocked at 1.4 and its been extremely stable. So what your saying is that the voltages automatically increase when I select a higher frequency, because I did not change them manually.
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Open NSTools and select Voltage tab. That's the list of "stock" voltages for each frequency.
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Open NSTools and select Voltage tab. That's the list of "stock" voltages for each frequency.
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A CPU governor such as on demand, lulzactive and lazy tells the CPU what clock to be at and automatically change. While reading, it will be at 100 or 200mhz, while playing a game it will be at the maximum clock you tell it to. Saves power this way.
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i haven't played with voltages yet but in my experience the benefits of overclocking are minimal anyway, and they make nexus reboot often and other bad things :/
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yes, usually 1 GHz is enough , UV or OC also may reduce hardware's physical life
Hi.
I'm using franco kernel and i'm trying to undervolting the cpu for battery life.
First I would like to know if undervolting is dangerous for the cpu.
In second, how can I find the best setting for me? Which test I have to do? My cpu is PVS 1. I'm using FKU with -50mv.
Thank you
Paolo
No it's not dangerous for the CPU, the device will become unstable and possibly randomly restart if the voltage is too low.
You can try the Antutu app which has a stability test
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No it's not dangerous for the CPU, the device will become unstable and possibly randomly restart if the voltage is too low.
You can try the Antutu app which has a stability test
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Thank you. If the "Antutu's stability test" fails , i get an error? Or simply i get the restart of device?
My cpu is PVS 1: realistically how much can I get off? I'm now at -50 mv without problems.
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Thank you. If the "Antutu's stability test" fails , i get an error? Or simply i get the restart of device?
My cpu is PVS 1: realistically how much can I get off? I'm now at -50 mv without problems.
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-75, maybe -100. Btw, this should go in q&a
Paolo83 said:
Hi.
I'm using franco kernel and i'm trying to undervolting the cpu for battery life.
First I would like to know if undervolting is dangerous for the cpu.
In second, how can I find the best setting for me? Which test I have to do? My cpu is PVS 1. I'm using FKU with -50mv.
Thank you
Paolo
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I'm using cataclysm and r14 right now. I'm undervolting -75. Last night I left my phone unplugged and drained 1% over 6 hours idle.
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I'm using cataclysm and r14 right now. I'm undervolting -75. Last night I left my phone unplugged and drained 1% over 6 hours idle.
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I use Cataclysm + r14 as well, but if I undervolt more than -25mV across the board, the phone would crash in antutu benchmark. (I'm sort of using antutu as a stress test)
Paolo83 said:
Hi.
I'm using franco kernel and i'm trying to undervolting the cpu for battery life.
First I would like to know if undervolting is dangerous for the cpu.
In second, how can I find the best setting for me? Which test I have to do? My cpu is PVS 1. I'm using FKU with -50mv.
Thank you
Paolo
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Undervolt (mV) isn´t for battery life, it´s for low temperature. Underclock (MHz) is done for battery pourposes
OK, first of all I'd like to apologise for all the questions I keep posting. Im quite a noob with android, and coming from an iPhone, it's been a big leap. I'm just overwhelmed by the android system and how open it is! But I do all this cool stuff to my android like everyone else, although I don't wanna ruin a £350 phone by doing something stupid without guidance! (I'm just a big kid really! ) Which is why I keep posting questions, because it's hard to Google/Search XDA for this stuff...
Whenever I search XDA for 'Nexus 5 Overclocking' all I get is ROM threads, so this will be a thread for everything [under][over]clocking! Share your most effective results, and ask the pros questions!
I'll start it off...
I've Underclocked before, but now I wanna Terry out some heavy emulators (dolphin emulator, Nintendo 64 emulator ect.) But I don't think my phone is powerful enough to run these games full speed underclocked... I want to OVERclock it now, so which apps do I need to achieve this, how do I do it, and what are the most effective values for it?
Thanks,
Pro_Vickers.
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The kernel defines whether or not you can overclock.
There is no real need to in the nexus 5 though.
If it is choppy at 2.3ghz then there is something wrong with the emulator.
In context I play final fantasy 9 on the psx emulator fpse using opengl graphics (which is limited to single core) and still get a constant 60fps
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I want to OVERclock it now, so which apps do I need to achieve this, how do I do it, and what are the most effective values for it?
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Hi,
First you need a kernel with overclock (Franciscofranco, Trinity, ElementalX, etc...).
For the apps Franciscofranco have its own app (Francsico Kernel Updater-> FKU) and Trinity kernel also (Trinity Kernel Toolbox-> TKT), all available on the Play Store.
You can use a "generic" app like Trickster Mod, Play store too.
With the apps you choose your max CPU freq and it's done...
For overclocking there is no "most effective value" it depends of the voltage and what your CPU can handle. 2,4/2,5 Ghz seems reasonable (with some kernels you can go above like 2,8 Ghz).
Try a "safe" overclock first like 2,4/2,5 Ghz, and don't set the CPU freq "at boot" to avoid any problem like bootloop in case your CPU can't handle these freqs.
Maybe you'll need to raise a bit the voltage for these CP freqs, it depends of your CPU binning.
You can apply your settings at boot via the app when you are sure that all is stable (so after a few days of test with your use).
In any case you'll need to test in different situations to see if all is fine (hard and normal use)...
Alex240188 said:
The kernel defines whether or not you can overclock.
There is no real need to in the nexus 5 though.
If it is choppy at 2.3ghz then there is something wrong with the emulator.
In context I play final fantasy 9 on the psx emulator fpse using opengl graphics (which is limited to single core) and still get a constant 60fps
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I've Underclocked and it's choppy, but I know it's not the emulators fault because of the reviews, and I've played with it before I Underclocked... The problem is, I forgot how I Underclocked, so can you tell me how I clock it back to stock GHz?
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I have Franco kernel so clocking shouldn't be a problem should it? Also can I use trickster mod for it? Thanks
viking37 said:
Hi,
First you need a kernel with overclock (Franciscofranco, Trinity, ElementalX, etc...).
For the apps Francisco have its own app (Francsico Kernel Updater-> FKU) and Trinity kernel also (Trinity Kernel Toolbox-> TKT), all available on the Play Store.
You can use a "generic" app like Trickster Mod, Play store too.
For overclocking there is no "most effective value" it depends of the voltage and what your CPU can handle. 2,4/2,5 Ghz seems reasonable (with some kernels you can go above like 2,8 Ghz).
Try a "safe" overclock first like 2,4/2,5 Ghz, and don't set the CPU freq "at boot" to avoid any problem like bootloop in case your CPU can't handle thes freqs.
Maybe you'll need to raise a bit the voltage for these CP freqs.
In any case you'll need to test in different situations to see if all is fine...
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Hi,
I've Undervolted -75, so should overvolt or set it back to stock values so I can safely try out 2.5Ghz?
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P.S
I have Franco kernel so clocking shouldn't be a problem should it? Also can I use trickster mod for it? Thanks
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Re,
Yes you can overclock with Francisco's kernel and yes you can use Trickster mod...
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Hi,
I've Undervolted -75, so should overvolt or set it back to stock values so I can safely try out 2.5Ghz?
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Try with your undervolt...
But in first I would try with the original voltage, not necessary overvolting...
Try and see, only you can know if it will be safe or not...
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Yes you can overclock with Francisco's kernel and yes you can use Trickster mod...
Try with your undervolt...
But in first I would try with the original voltage, not necessary overvolting...
Try and see, only you can know if it will be safe or not...
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All I can see in FKU is Max CPU frequency (960MHz), min (422MHz) and GPU frequency (320MHz) under GPU control... What do I tinker with to get it to 2.4GHz?
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All I can see in FKU is Max CPU frequency (960MHz), min (422MHz) and GPU frequency (320MHz) under GPU control... What do I tinker with to get it to 2.4GHz?
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Max CPU at 960 Mhz
You only see this CPU freq? Maybe your phone is actually to hot and the CPU freq is decreased?
"Click" on Max CPU freq then scroll down to see all the CPU freqs...
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Max CPU at 960 Mhz
You only see this CPU freq? Maybe your phone is actually to hot and the CPU freq is decreased?
"Click" on Max CPU freq then scroll down to see all the CPU freqs...
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Sorry, I mean that's what it's set at, I can see all of the frequencies, but which ones do I set?
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Sorry, I mean that's what it's set at, I can see all of the frequencies, but which ones do I set?
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Ok...
Hum... you choose the one you want, you want to overclock so overclock. The stock CPU freq is 2,26 Ghz so if you go above this freq you overclock...
Maybe it's why "But I don't think my phone is powerful enough to run these games", like you said, if your max CPU freq was at 960 Mhz...?
Default the stock max freq will be 2260 MHz or 2.26ghz depending on how it's displayed.
I'd leave your undervolt as it is for now and just increase the max frequency and see if it becomes smooth for what you need
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Ok...
Hum... you choose the one you want, you want to overclock so overclock. The stock CPU freq is 2,26 Ghz so if you go above this freq you overclock...
Maybe it's why "But I don't think my phone is powerful enough to run these games", like you said, if your max CPU freq was at 960 Mhz...?
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Default the stock max freq will be 2260 MHz or 2.26ghz depending on how it's displayed.
I'd leave your undervolt as it is for now and just increase the max frequency and see if it becomes smooth for what you need
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I know that my phone is fast enough (obviously, it's a nexus 5 beast!), and I know that I lowered my CPU frequencies, but it's just that I forgot what the defaults were, and how to change it. I know now, thanks you guys! P.S should I change my min frequency or is that fine?
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I know that my phone is fast enough (obviously, it's a nexus 5 beast!), and I know that I lowered my CPU frequencies, but it's just that I forgot what the defaults were, and how to change it. I know now, thanks you guys! P.S should I change my min frequency or is that fine?
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Ah ok, you should have explained it at the beginning... , you're welcome
Stock min CPU freq is 300 Mhz..., not sure you'll see any gain to set it to 422 Mhz...
Set it again at 300 Mhz and see...
In any case if sometimes you have a doubt about some stock settings, disable the set on boot option and reboot, all the stocks settings will go back. Or in FKU, App settings then clear data for FKU.
Hi XDA,
I've got a problem whilst installing apps (obviously). I download an app from Play Store, it downloads, and whilst it says 'installing' I get a huge lag on my phone. It sometimes even freezes for a few seconds. When it finishes installing it goes back to normal like nothing happened. Its like whenever I install an app, I summon some kind of demon laggatron in my phone. Does anyone else experience this and how can I fix it?
Thanks <3
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I summon some kind of demon laggatron in my phone
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Hi,
:laugh:
Well, it happens sometimes with some huge apps when installing them. Lags yes, but no freezes, at least for me.
As far as I know nothing to do..., I would say that it's a known "problem".
Nope, the laggatron strikes every time, no matter the size of the app
I have Undervolted to 0.96GHz, does that change the game at all? I'm assuming that it takes more CPU power when installing apps, so my phone is no match for the laggatron
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You underclock to 960 Mhz, you mean max CPU freq
Maybe that explains all..., raise your max CPU freq a bit.
Yep. Tbh I wanna keep it, I only get problems with installing app lag, everything else is fine. Get 6hrs+ SOT, so defo worth the sacrifice.
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^^^
Hammer_Of_The_Gods said:
You underclock to 960 Mhz, you mean max CPU freq
Maybe that explains all..., raise your max CPU freq a bit.
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Yep. Tbh I wanna keep it, I only get problems with installing app lag, everything else is fine. Get 6hrs+ SOT, so defo worth the sacrifice.
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Honestly you will have the same battery life if you raise your max CPU freq to something like 1,5 Ghz at least (or 1,7 ghz) if you want to keep a certain amount of underclocking (maybe placebo effect...), seems counter-productive to me what you want to achieve...
Some users have the same SOT at stock CPU freqs then...
It depends of your usage too and other settings (brightness, synchro and so on).
But it's up to you, I would say try for a few days and see..., I'm sure you will have less lags with a higher CPU freq, at this point you have the reverse effect to me, all the CPU tasks take more time to be finished.
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Nope, the laggatron strikes every time, no matter the size of the app
I have Undervolted to 0.96GHz, does that change the game at all? I'm assuming that it takes more CPU power when installing apps, so my phone is no match for the laggatron
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960mhz? yea, that changes the game, extremely. if you want to underclock, try 1574mhz, youll wont notice any underclocking affects.
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Honestly you will have the same battery life if you raise your max CPU freq to something like 1,5 Ghz at least (or 1,7 ghz) if you want to keep a certain amount of underclocking (maybe placebo effect...), seems counter-productive to me what you want to achieve...
Some users have the same SOT at stock CPU freqs then...
It depends of your usage too and other settings (brightness, synchro and so on).
But it's up to you, I would say try for a few days and see..., I'm sure you will have less lags with a higher CPU freq, at this point you have the reverse effect to me, all the CPU tasks take more time to be finished.
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960mhz? yea, that changes the game, extremely. if you want to underclock, try 1574mhz, youll wont notice any underclocking affects.
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Really, it won't save any battery? I might as well give it a go then, always thought it was one of the major battery saving settings. Thanks for your advice guys!
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ProVickers said:
Yep. Tbh I wanna keep it, I only get problems with installing app lag, everything else is fine. Get 6hrs+ SOT, so defo worth the sacrifice.
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i get 5-6 hours sot at 2265mhz, no real tweaking, just set up properly, and with a great quality data/phone signal in my area. and i only use lte, 100% of the time. using the cpu at that low a level would never be worth it to me, 1574mhz would be the very minimum for me.
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i get 5-6 hours sot at 2265mhz, no real tweaking, just set up properly, and with a great quality data/phone signal in my area. and i only use lte, 100% of the time. using the cpu at that low a level would never be worth it to me, 1574mhz would be the very minimum for me.
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Common 2265MHz is your personal minimum or how do you get the 40000 benchmarks lmao
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Common 2265MHz is your personal minimum or how do you get the 40000 benchmarks lmao
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2572mhz
I'm at 1.57GHz or whatever you recommended. And battery life looks just like it did before, awesome! Although I do still get a tiny bit of lag still, there's no freezing at all. Will have to just wait to see if it goes well. Thanks!
Me 1-0 Laggatron
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i get 5-6 hours sot at 2265mhz, no real tweaking, just set up properly, and with a great quality data/phone signal in my area. and i only use lte, 100% of the time. using the cpu at that low a level would never be worth it to me, 1574mhz would be the very minimum for me.
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Hammer_Of_The_Gods said:
Honestly you will have the same battery life if you raise your max CPU freq to something like 1,5 Ghz at least (or 1,7 ghz) if you want to keep a certain amount of underclocking (maybe placebo effect...), seems counter-productive to me what you want to achieve...
Some users have the same SOT at stock CPU freqs then...
It depends of your usage too and other settings (brightness, synchro and so on).
But it's up to you, I would say try for a few days and see..., I'm sure you will have less lags with a higher CPU freq, at this point you have the reverse effect to me, all the CPU tasks take more time to be finished.
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lag and stutters yes especially when you're installing 3-4 apps or more on the queue. but never freeze. anyway i just recently switch to f2fs file system and the stutter is gone when you are installing apps with more in queue.
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Nope, the laggatron strikes every time, no matter the size of the app
I have Undervolted to 0.96GHz, does that change the game at all? I'm assuming that it takes more CPU power when installing apps, so my phone is no match for the laggatron
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Whaaaaaaat???
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Dem old thread bumps tho.
Happens all the time in Q&A lol.
adichandra said:
lag and stutters yes especially when you're installing 3-4 apps or more on the queue. but never freeze. anyway i just recently switch to f2fs file system and the stutter is gone when you are installing apps with more in queue.
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Were you sleeping under a rock for the past couple months?
Lol i use tapatalk and didnt notice the date lol
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