[Q] Have you managed to OC to 1460MHZ and keep stability? - Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I'm using AOSP+ ICS ROM with the latest Matr1x kernel. Whenever I try to OC to 1460 the phone freezes and I have to pull the battery, so I'm forced to run at a maximum of 1300MHz.
Also, on a related matter, is it good practice to use SetCPU with various profiles (battery<, temp>, screenoff, charging) for various frequencies? Or should I just use AOSP+ tweaks to chose a min and max frequency and let it be?
Thanks for taking the time to answer these.

Raise all voltages by +30 across the board
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My Phone freezes when i try to OC to 1460

Read the above comment or read my FAQ...god..
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zgomot said:
Also, on a related matter, is it good practice to use SetCPU with various profiles (battery<, temp>, screenoff, charging) for various frequencies? Or should I just use AOSP+ tweaks to chose a min and max frequency and let it be?
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If you are using deep idle you shouldn't underclock since it causes a race-to-idle condition. In other words your battery will drain faster. If you don't use deep idle, feel free to underclock when the screen is off or whatever you want.

sakisds said:
If you are using deep idle you shouldn't underclock since it causes a race-to-idle condition. In other words your battery will drain faster. If you don't use deep idle, feel free to underclock when the screen is off or whatever you want.
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To the point and verry helpful, thanks a bunch
mathkid95 said:
Raise all voltages by +30 across the board
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Can I do this via AOSP+ tweaks and still use SetCpu to OC and UC? Are they conflicting apps? (Deep idle OFF)
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I would recommend just using setcpu
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mathkid95 said:
Raise all voltages by +30 across the board
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Just an update, Using CNA 1.4.0 and Matr1x v17, I am stable oc'ed to 1460.
this is what I am running
1)800/1460
2)gov =Ondemand
3)Scheduler =Noop
4)all voltages to +30 (used the cna rom's voltage tweaker)
I tried ShadowGun: the Leftover.. and It was flying. Of course, make sure that have enough battery or that you have a charger ready. But finally it works, try this and let me know

I can run it for 10-20 min of usage then get a freeze. I never raised the voltages before though. It seems like its working for other people. And the actual developer of Matrix Kernel is telling you to ....
Nexus S (GSM i9020a)
AOKP (Build 25)
Eugene's Kernel (Speedy 7)
OC 800/100 (Lionheart)
Live OC (105)

It still amazes me how so many people that ask about overclocking have no frigging idea at all how cpus/gpus in general are binned etc.

I have a question. Why do you guys overclock that much? It might be snappy but battery life is just bad and it just doesn't worth it in my opinion.
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albundy2010 said:
It still amazes me how so many people that ask about overclocking have no frigging idea at all how cpus/gpus in general are binned etc.
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Care to shed some light for us people that have no frigging idea at all how cpus/gpus in general are binned etc? If not, well... why did you even bother posting?
ljordan2 said:
I have a question. Why do you guys overclock that much? It might be snappy but battery life is just bad and it just doesn't worth it in my opinion.
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Personally, I do it because I can. Seriously... I'm a geek, I love gadgets and tech and I like to tinker.
On the subject at hand, I'm still unable to OC to 1460 (ARM voltages +30, INT voltages +25) but at 1300 it runs fine, no issues whatsoever.

i can run 1460 stable all day. bigxie/matrix. just did +30 to all the voltages above 1000. deadline and lulzactive..

If you are a geek you would know about something as simple as binning chips. Do what a tech geek would do...look it up. Same thing the op should have done with his ?. Hell mathkid has a answer to his ? In the op of his kernel thread. Which is the kernel he is running

albundy2010 said:
If you are a geek you would know about something as simple as binning chips. Do what a tech geek would do...look it up. Same thing the op should have done with his ?. Hell mathkid has a answer to his ? In the op of his kernel thread. Which is the kernel he is running
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You're kinda bitter for someone married to a busty redhead

jesusice said:
You're kinda bitter for someone married to a busty redhead
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Haha, I thought so too.
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Im running the Carbon Rom with the matrix 11 cfs kernel just wondering.. how do they make 1460mhz stable? do they lower the voltage? and if so how do i go about dropping the voltage and what is a safe range because its at 1450mv when i overclock it freezes and reboots.. sorry for all the questions lol
I been asking the same.
On my phone any oc over 1.3 freezes my phone
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JG96EVO said:
Im running the Carbon Rom with the matrix 11 cfs kernel just wondering.. how do they make 1460mhz stable? do they lower the voltage? and if so how do i go about dropping the voltage and what is a safe range because its at 1450mv when i overclock it freezes and reboots.. sorry for all the questions lol
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Raise voltage to 1475mV...
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but would'nt more voltage be worse?
Nope haha, it will def make it more stable
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al_madd said:
Raise voltage to 1475mV...
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wouldnt more voltage be worse?
More voltages = better stability
some kernels try to undervolt as low as possible but some phones don't like that much UV so you have to manually raise voltages =]
Edit: If your uncomfortable about messing with the voltages you should go ahed to the Trinity thread and flash TUV OR TEUV =] there UV'd to a safe extent.
Every phone is different, might not be able to do it. Simms can run a 1.6 ghz
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sinik420 said:
Every phone is different, might not be able to do it. Simms can run a 1.6 ghz
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I sometimes think that Simms has a super Nexus or something my phone can go upto 1.5.xx
irizwan said:
More voltages = better stability
some kernels try to undervolt as low as possible but some phones don't like that much UV so you have to manually raise voltages =]
Edit: If your uncomfortable about messing with the voltages you should go ahed to the Trinity thread and flash TUV OR TEUV =] there UV'd to a safe extent.
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Thanks man.. I heard about the Trinity Kernel and looked through the threads but couldn't find it.
JG96EVO said:
Thanks man.. I heard about the Trinity Kernel and looked through the threads but couldn't find it.
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To get the stable releases you can go to morfics website http://www.derkernel.com/
=)

Inspire cm7 2ghz kernels?

Are any 2ghz kernels compatible with cm7?
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knightofthe9 said:
Are any 2ghz kernels compatible with cm7?
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at the risk of offending you, I would not recommend setting your phone to 2ghz..I can assure you nothing great in the long term is going to happen. As for kernels give LordClockan and TalonAce a glance, I'm not 100% sure if they are 2ghz kernels but its a good jumping off point
2ghz will fry your CPU. Maybe not initially buy your phone will definitely fail prematurely. The only reasons other people do it is because they can and they probably have a newer phone for their daily. Even just overclocking a little bit can have a negative impact but not as drastic. If you insist on overclocking I wouldnt exceed 1.4.
With that said there are several Aosp kernels that will allow you to push it to the limit. Just search the dev forum.
Overclocking your cpu will not hurt it unless its running hotter than the cooling system can handle. It will cause lock ups and failure to boot. If you start overvolting it, you WILL cause premature damage to the chip itself. Optimum overclock has always been 10-20% increase for any processor. Personally id rather underclock and undervolt a little, runs cooler and less power drain.
gizmoe is right, 2ghz is a 'just cuz i can' overclock. it wont run stable at that level. its like the 8ghz overclocks you see on the intel processors using LN2 cooling lol.
2ghz is bad.
I ran my inspire at 2ghz and besides the battery practically counting down the phones was heating up and that was maybe 15 minutes. Definitely not a goods idea.
Thank you for the input and info guys.
I could over clock and undervolt on a past captivate. Is there any app you would recommended for the inspire on cm7 to do this?
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knightofthe9 said:
Thank you for the input and info guys.
I could over clock and undervolt on a past captivate. Is there any app you would recommended for the inspire on cm7 to do this?
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Setcpu use to be the go to app but many found it to lag after waking the phone. Many have now moved on to daemon controller. From the looks of it you're using CM7 which has the function built in..I believe its menu > settings > CM settings > performance...or something like that...don't check set on boot until you know how much OC your phone can candle. If you like CM, take a look at Absolution by the Collective. They have scripts written for custom profiles for OC and UVing.
MMM-BACONSTRIPS said:
If you like CM, take a look at Absolution by the Collective. They have scripts written for custom profiles for OC and UVing.
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I've clocked to 2ghz a few times just to get a crazy quadrant score but that's about it. I usually keep mine somewhere in the 900mhz range with a little lite uv'ing and found that to be plenty.
2ghz can definitely be bad for your cpu..... Like to much bacon can be bad for your arteries.....
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Voltage control on ICS?

Is there an app that will work to control voltage on ICS yet?
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Nstools
Link - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1333696
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ROM Toolbox Pro also allows you too modify these settings.
Or setcpu
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Do these require specific kernels to work?
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Yes , not all kernels allow change voltages
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Voltage adjustment is not really necessary, unless you are increasing voltages for overclocking.
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Braneless said:
Voltage adjustment is not really necessary, unless you are increasing voltages for overclocking.
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Voltage adjustment is necessary when UVing so you can save battery duh??? lol
Even when overclocking.
XxLostSoulxX said:
Voltage adjustment is necessary when UVing so you can save battery duh??? lol
Even when overclocking.
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Uhh, no. I suggest you read up on the findings/observations documented by multiple kernel developers and bedalus's kernel testing posted here. UV has no effect on power consumption.
Read first post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1448900
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Braneless said:
Uhh, no. I suggest you read up on the findings/observations documented by multiple kernel developers and bedalus's kernel testing posted here. UV has no effect on power consumption.
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Well I tested it on my friends nexus s 4g and my epic 4g and with a lot of UVing. Lemme further explain.
Okay when you UV it just uses less amount of voltage on that frequency so in essence you save battery because not as much voltage is being used. Now however if you UV by a lot like -100mV and higher the phone will lagg a bit. If you overvolt your pushing more voltage to the phone which is more power being used.
I just tested my phone freqs. Used were 100,200,400,600,800,1000 And all were UVed by -100mV and playing games and using lower freqs it will lagg. When I didn't UV at all it never lagged.
Not to mention BTW I was @ 88% before and it only took me 2 mins to post this and now I'm at 86% with no UV at all. And last post before this I took me same time with UVed I went from 95% to 95% lol.
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XxLostSoulxX said:
Voltage adjustment is necessary when UVing so you can save battery duh??? lol
Even when overclocking.
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Not according to my testing.
kernels ; battery ; ROM ; gov/sched
Now with summaries in the first posts. Convenient for XDA app users!
bedalus said:
Not according to my testing.
kernels ; battery ; ROM ; gov/sched
Now with summaries in the first posts. Convenient for XDA app users!
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Well I can say every phone is a tad bit diff. But for whatever reason no matter who's phone when I UV if the phone handles it it. It saves me battery I want you to test this and see.
Run whatever scheduler and say performance run 100 MHz by -200mV like and 200 Mhz by -150mV and so forth. Play GtA 3 and watch when UVed it laggs and when Not it laggs stillbut not as bad. I mean hell even 1.5GHz no UV I still lagg haha
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Thanks guys! Ill check on this some more when I get home.
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SetCPU

I know that if you OC/UV incorrectly, it can cause stability issues. But I was wondering does it cause any damage to the phones hardware like battery, etc? And like how can you tell when SETCPU is causing problems?
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Well if you OC to high numbers your just stressing the cpu more.Knowing when you have issues is simple getting random reboots,phone getting too hot etcc.
It differs for every phone but undervolting -25 for each voltages works well.
Personally I really don't see the point overclocking to high levels like 1.4 ghz etc,Is up to individual I guess.
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daxecutioner24 said:
Well if you OC to high numbers your just stressing the cpu more.Knowing when you have issues is simple getting random reboots,phone getting too hot etcc.
It differs for every phone but undervolting -25 for each voltages works well.
Personally I really don't see the point overclocking to high levels like 1.4 ghz etc,Is up to individual I guess.
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Yeah I have been wondering what's the point of OC to 1.4? Does it make that big of a difference in the 4g speed? And cpu speed?
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Honestly, there really is no point other than for benchmarks. I, like mt3g, actually underclock the phone to something like 750-760mhz; it runs beautifully smooth.
Other than that, if you game a lot and want to maximize FPS, then overclocking would do that for you.
Doesn't have anything to do with 4g speed afaik. That's entirely reception.
Yeah 4g is about reception and tmobile simply.
I mean I had single core devices like MT4g ,SGS 4g for the most part on a day to day basis transitions to transitions theres not much diffirence in terms of speed. Now for FPS and a few other games you need that dual core.Point is there"s no need to OC a dual core phone!
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I have had mine OC'd to 1.1 ghz with some undervolts. It is very stable , 10-12 hr battery with medium to heavy use , and ofcourse fast. Took a while to find the best settings.
When I have SetCPU set to 1015 megahertz, that's the same as stock voltage, isn't it?
NekoNyapii said:
When I have SetCPU set to 1015 megahertz, that's the same as stock voltage, isn't it?
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What does CPU speed have to do with voltage?
theking_13 said:
What does CPU speed have to do with voltage?
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I meant the same as stock speed.
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setcpu phone overclocking
Changes you might see are battery life but not that much unless you so how mess with voltage. Like other have said you know it effecting stability when its overheating, shutting down randomly, exiting program randomly.

What are you overclocked to?

I guess you can consider this thread part survey and part for my knowledge so I know how far I can push this phone. I am at 1728MHz max with the interactive governor and cfq scheduler. Not sure if I'm going to do any undervolting, I can get through the day with about 40% remaining, and I have profiles set up for low battery and such. I am running CM10 with the 747 (I think that's what its called..) kernel and can push it to 2.1GHz. Is it stable at that high of a clockspeed? I can assume it turns your pretty Galaxy S3 into a convenient portable stove
By the way, sorry if this is the wrong section.
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It really depends on your phone, I had mine at 2100 and it was stable. However it can very I had,a, Droid charge that ran the 1440 no problem, had it replaced and the new one could go above 1300 without hot boots. Some phones just hold up better
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kintwofan said:
It really depends on your phone, I had mine at 2100 and it was stable. However it can very I had,a, Droid charge that ran the 1440 no problem, had it replaced and the new one could go above 1300 without hot boots. Some phones just hold up better
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Stock. I've had it clocked to 1.9. But can't tell a difference with real day to day function except for worse battery drain and phone hotter.
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I have run the KT747 AOSP kernel at 2.1 ghz for a day or more and had no noticeable increase in heat, or decrease in battery life. (lulzactive or smartass v2 with either cfq or sio scheduler, no voltage changes in KT tweaker) I also saw very little or no gain in real world performance increase, and the benchmarking apps seemed to back that up. Typically run mine at 1.809 currently. Every phone cpu is different in terms of top speed, and voltage settings. Best thing to do, is to test them and see what works best for you. These 2 links, courtesy of the Ktoonez thread, provide some great info on kernel governor and scheduler settings. Given the number of options in KT Tweaker, these helped me a great deal in terms of making changes.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1687578
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1369817
I've tried 1998MHz and as you said, it didn't yield much. I think I screwed something up, because now oc settings refuse to stick (resets itself to 1512) and short/long benches are not as great.
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xrawritsjack said:
I've tried 1998MHz and as you said, it didn't yield much. I think I screwed something up, because now oc settings refuse to stick (resets itself to 1512) and short/long benches are not as great.
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Are you on CleanKernel by chance?

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