[Q] Moving from Galaxy Nexus to Moto G - Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi, I'm a galaxy nexus user and I was thinking on changing to the Moto G. Specifications look very similar (I get two more CPU cores and FM radio and lose NFC and replaceable battery) but from what I've read the optimization of this phone is awesome so performance is much better compared to other phones with the same hadware (but galaxy nexus is a google phone so the difference may not be that big).
Will it be worth to change or I won't get significant differences? Also if someone actually moved from galaxy nexus to moto G and could tell me the difference it would be awesome!
Thanks in advance.

Hi i just switched from GNex to MotoG
-battery is much better with Moto G had 5:30 Onscreentime instead of max. 4h with same APPs and usage on GNex (with 2000mAh advanced battery, snappy PSX Rom and Mpokang custom kernel).
-i did not use NFC so its no loss for me
-the 5GHz was nice to have on GNex but my GNex was faulty two times and had to be replaced via RMA because the 5GHz radio TX amplifier suddenly dies for no obvious reason .... other users had that too: https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=22474#c93
-Video streaming was broken for me on GNEx since 4.3 update (and all 4.3 custom roms had same problems) - only 4.2.2 worked fine see https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=59020
the MotoG works fine although i use 2,4GHz instead 5GHz WLAN now
-no more AMOLED display which is a little loss for me - was getting used to the colors
-the camera on GNex was a little bit better - but MotoG is okay - there are worse cameras on the market...
good thing is - i'll sell my old phone for ~ 100€ so i paid only ~69€ for the new phone....
price / performance is really good with the MotoG
i think there will be a big community with this phone -> CWM is already available also is root.
custom roms are starting....
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just found that hw accerlation (video streaming) has been fixed in the meantime:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2559138
well good but too late - i already sold my old phone

Andiii said:
Hi i just switched from GNex to MotoG
-battery is much better with Moto G had 5:30 Onscreentime instead of max. 4h with same APPs and usage on GNex (with 2000mAh advanced battery, snappy PSX Rom and Mpokang custom kernel).
-i did not use NFC so its no loss for me
-the 5GHz was nice to have on GNex but my GNex was faulty two times and had to be replaced via RMA because the 5GHz radio TX amplifier suddenly dies for no obvious reason .... other users had that too: https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=22474#c93
-Video streaming was broken for me on GNEx since 4.3 update (and all 4.3 custom roms had same problems) - only 4.2.2 worked fine see https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=59020
the MotoG works fine although i use 2,4GHz instead 5GHz WLAN now
-no more AMOLED display which is a little loss for me - was getting used to the colors
-the camera on GNex was a little bit better - but MotoG is okay - there are worse cameras on the market...
good thing is - i'll sell my old phone for ~ 100€ so i paid only ~69€ for the new phone....
price / performance is really good with the MotoG
i think there will be a big community with this phone -> CWM is already available also is root.
custom roms are starting....
***edit****
just found that hw accerlation (video streaming) has been fixed in the meantime:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2559138
well good but too late - i already sold my old phone
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Thanks for the quick reply, it was very helpful. One more question, about the processor, does it feel any difference in the app opening time or using heavy apps like chrome (it works quite laggy in my gnex)?
Thanks
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I'm in a similar position, thinking of moving form GNex to Moto G.
Those who have made the shift from GNex to Moto G, how much of a difference does it feel while opening apps? Do apps open faster from cold start?
Also one of the things I had issues with was retaining apps in RAM. Many times I have tabs open in the browser and when I switch back to the browser couple of hours later, all the tabs are gone because the browser process gets killed. Similar with games like PvZ2. If I switch apps while playing, I can't resume and the game starts again.

binlalo said:
Thanks for the quick reply, it was very helpful. One more question, about the processor, does it feel any difference in the app opening time or using heavy apps like chrome (it works quite laggy in my gnex)?
Thanks
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Chrome feels great on the Moto G - i have no lags at all - also normal usage is snappier in my opinion. Back to Homescreen and power up time after reboot is really fast too. I am pretty happy that i did this upgrade.

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Regrets???

[email protected],
Are you regret n the buy of this phone? I do! This phone makes me mad. Is such a buggy piece of crap is unbelievable. There is almost no custom Roms battery life sucks even without using s3d, apps aren't working proper and i have to reboot this frekin phone after a while to work properly.
I can say this is a epic fail in my eyes. Not once had I this much of problems with a smartphone.
Unfortunately I paid a premium price for this crappy fon.
I really hope gb will iron out those problems or else I'll get f$%@#n mental.
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who is "GB"?
heard that name a couple of times but still dont know.
And well...i trade my evo 3d in tommorow and get the optimus 3d.
The evo3d surely isnt a better device. lag and speed drops all the way, everywhere. even pinch to zoom in the browser lags...and i need to wait everywhere...even wait 1 - 2 secs before the keyboards pops up.
And it didnt sync my emails properly.
Wanted to buy the galaxy s2 but well....i DID love the evo 3d's 3d screen. its nicer then on the o3d because resolution, but that means its not far off.
Glad I've visited from s2 section was gonna go from s2 to optimus 3d it looks superb on reviews on you tube but is it as good as they make out, I like to be up to date on my smart phones but might stick with s2 what do you users think.?
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i regret even laying eyes on this piece of crap so what i did was make my lil brother take it off me cuz he loves it. So i am gonna wait for the next nexus phone to come out this October its called the nexus prime imma get that the s2 can shove it too i hate it lol....
Best phone in Holland never have.problems
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Paran0idAndr0id said:
[email protected],
Are you regret n the buy of this phone? I do! This phone makes me mad. Is such a buggy piece of crap is unbelievable. There is almost no custom Roms battery life sucks even without using s3d, apps aren't working proper and i have to reboot this frekin phone after a while to work properly.
I can say this is a epic fail in my eyes. Not once had I this much of problems with a smartphone.
Unfortunately I paid a premium price for this crappy fon.
I really hope gb will iron out those problems or else I'll get f$%@#n mental.
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Hi mate.You really seem to have problems with your O3D. Have had mine for more than 1 month and its incredible. I had a SGS2 before and i just can't miss anything from that.I made my own custom ROM (you should do that too) and it works amazing, fast and stable.I have all Gameloft 3D games and they work just better in 3D than in the SGS2 in 2D wich needed its GPU to be locked at max to get descent FPS.In my opinion the LG O3D is the only phone out there that i could say "WOWWW" after playing with.Battery life is really bad i agree, but have you tried the other dual core phones ? they are pretty terrible as well. We gonna get GB soon and im pretty sure that the phone is gonna get a lot better, FROYO dont work properly on dual core devices.As soon as we get GB Im gonna start developing again, dont want to waste time with Froyo.
No regrets what so ever,its so super fast,no lag at all...love it !!!
Paran0idAndr0id said:
[email protected],
Are you regret n the buy of this phone? I do! This phone makes me mad. Is such a buggy piece of crap is unbelievable. There is almost no custom Roms battery life sucks even without using s3d, apps aren't working proper and i have to reboot this frekin phone after a while to work properly.
I can say this is a epic fail in my eyes. Not once had I this much of problems with a smartphone.
Unfortunately I paid a premium price for this crappy fon.
I really hope gb will iron out those problems or else I'll get f$%@#n mental.
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Haven't noticed any major bugs with the phone, sure the software is far from the best but not that bad IMO and LG have released patches.
As for Custom ROMs, really what do people think? the phone is extremely new, released like 2 months ago and not even out in the US yet, CM is under development, going pretty fast but it still takes time, it's not like they can just pull it out of a hat, it takes hard work and many hours, in this case given by Ricardo who does this on his free time and not only for the O3D but other hardware as well, expecting a massive amount of CustomROMs within 2 months seems a bit ... After CM is released you'll probably see much more custom ROMs appearing.
Battery life is low yes (not really a surprise if you'd read anything about the phone before getting it) , much because of the screen but also because of unoptimized code because of new hardware etc. will hopefully get better with new software releases or you could get another battery or portable charger. (Running 3D actually doesn't require that much more battery then running the screen normally, it's the brightness and the screen tech that needs a fair amount of power).
If you could be more specific with what problems you have exactly people might be able to help you, just screaming bloody murder wont help much.
For ex.
What apps aren't working properly? And how aren't they working?
What are you doing when you have to reboot the phone to get it to work?
Got any custom apps like a custom lockscreen like agile lock or a custom home app?
Have you tried any battery saving apps?
Also if you haven't had problems like this before with a Smart phone you are either very lucky or you've never bought a extremely new smart phone, all new releases got a few problems here and there, the worst problems usually get sorted about 6 months after first release, compared to my other phones this one has had surprisingly few major issues for being a new phone and that's even more impressive when you realise that it's a new chipset for phones.
I had an HD2 with CM7 when this phone arrived (so I'm not a newbie here). It's for testing 'cause iPhone 4 is a bit expensive so where I work are in search of a good high end working phone.
The O3D has all the requisites out of the box but one: battery. I had it in a construction area and it barely reached 10 hours of normal use plus some gps.
About the hangs and apps that don't work... I only had a problem with Tasker, and it seems it was my problem and not the phone.
IMHO it's a good phone. Maybe your unit was defective?
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Someone tell what or who GB is or il open a topic lol...
I do regret it at moment, having come from a galaxy s with custom roms and absolute crazy battery life..at moment I'd swap it for a galaxy II..BUT am waiting for the october update and more custom roms, so it's still early days for this phone so gonna stick with it as slowly it seems to be moving forward...
@borgqueen the gb they are refering to is gingerbread
Lol I guess I created the topic on a weak moment. But seriously I hate sometimes this fon. Although I got a battery pack with higher capacity the battery dies prematurely. And no I didn't try any other dual core fones but heard that the galaxy 2 has much better battery life.
And I did had the newest smartphones such as htc desire etc.
So be more specific my issues are
1. YouTube player is acting out sometimes and if I fastforward then there seems to be weird color distortion
2. Can't change the bloody user agent in dolphin browser (might be the browser tough heard some fons have this bug) and also sometimes dolphin browser isn't reacting at all or any other browser until I reboot the fone? So definitely not browser related
3. Watching online flash content is a nightmare and this could be froyo related as on any gb fon I tried there where no issues non so ever .
4. Battery life is horrendous
5. Battery life is horrendous
6. Fon doesn't react some times at all and i have to force reboot
I think the fon has great potential but the software is so not in tune with the fon. So as I said I really hope GB will solve some issues here.
By the way I really don't want to offend anyone but it's just my opinion on things so don't fanboy me )
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Paran0idAndr0id said:
Lol I guess I created the topic on a weak moment. But seriously I hate sometimes this fon. Although I got a battery pack with higher capacity the battery dies prematurely. And no I didn't try any other dual core fones but heard that the galaxy 2 has much better battery life.
And I did had the newest smartphones such as htc desire etc.
So be more specific my issues are
1. YouTube player is acting out sometimes and if I fastforward then there seems to be weird color distortion
2. Can't change the bloody user agent in dolphin browser (might be the browser tough heard some fons have this bug) and also sometimes dolphin browser isn't reacting at all or any other browser until I reboot the fone? So definitely not browser related
3. Watching online flash content is a nightmare and this could be froyo related as on any gb fon I tried there where no issues non so ever .
4. Battery life is horrendous
5. Battery life is horrendous
6. Fon doesn't react some times at all and i have to force reboot
I think the fon has great potential but the software is so not in tune with the fon. So as I said I really hope GB will solve some issues here.
By the way I really don't want to offend anyone but it's just my opinion on things so don't fanboy me )
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Dual core phone actually require less battery than single core, but the difference is not that big, SGS2 has a Super AMOLED+ screen and a little bit more power in the battery = more time on a charge. (but from what I've heard they also have some problems with some units magically draining like 30% of battery in mere minutes, only hear say for me though so don't quote me on that)
Haven't watched that much Youtube on the phone but seems more like a network or app problem than the phone?
Sure that Dophin browser don't have a problem with the phone and are affecting other browsers? I've used FF and Original, actually like the Original best and I've not experienced that the browser stopped responding, some apps that are not working correctly can affect other apps, Agile Lock for some reason killed my SIM unlock app and made it almost impossible to use the phone, removed it and haven't had any problem with the SIM card after that.
Nightmare in what way? Laggy?
Battery life is pretty bad, true, not much you can do about it, use a lower brightness on your screen, try out CPU tuner and limit the phone, I've actually got my phone running MAX 600Mhz instead of 1Ghz, gives me about an hour of extra active usage and haven't found anything that really suffers because of the slower speed. Hopefully software updates will help the battery life, my old Hero had like 6hours usage when I first got it, when I retired it that was up to 24-48hours. Also if you need it, check out portable charger on Ebay, I got mine for ~$30 from Hong Kong, 5000mAh just plug in and charge via USB, with the 5V 1A output it fully recharges my phone from 0-100% in just under 3 hours and with the extra mAh you got like 2days away from the outlet, not ideal but works
Or get the 3500mAh battery if you prefer that.
Is it in sleep mode it stops reacting? That's some software glitch that LG has in their 2.2 release, only seems to affect some people noticeably, LG O2X has the same glitch and a nightly not to long ago for CM7 on the O2X reproduced the problem from what I've read.
Or is it while using it that it just stops responding?
I'll try now few other roms out there. No the fon freezes while using the fon actively. I got the problem with sleep too. Anyways there is no way other than wait for a proper cm7 release. Guess is not that far away, no
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I am back on a GS2 and it smokes this phone totally, still have the O3D but I don't use it now, i have come to the conclusion even with the 3D it doesn't make it a good choice over the GS2 its just better in every way.
Hmm i dont regret at all having this phone i had iphone 4 before optimus 3d and i have to say its the best phone i ever have had in all ways...but yeah the battery are a little problem my tip for that take down the quick meny and turn off all data settings like wifi 3g bluetooth after turned off all those settings the battery have lasted for about 2 days and i still have power on it...so no the battery are not the biggest problem here if you do that! and like alot reviews are saying android is leeching data alot therfor it use power turn those off to save battery
This phone is awesome. Anyone who regrets buying it has problems with "grass is greener syndrome" which no amount of coding and tweaking can solve.
The problem is not with the phone. The problem is with your lack of patience and understanding of what is realistic performance and developer support of a brand new device.
Chill out, smoke em if you got em. Most of us will have this phone for a year minimum so there will be plenty of software improvements from both LG and the dev community during that time. LG have already updated like three times. My motorola milestone didnt even get three updates in ITS ENTIRE LIFESPAN.
Be appreciative of what you have.
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I totally agree this phone is great. I've only been using it since Saturday, but I'm extremely impressed. It's speedy, responsive. I'm digging 3D photos and gaming. The build quality is excellent. It feels sturdy and not cheap or too plasticky.
As with all phones, there are drawbacks like the battery life, but it's by no means a deal-breaker. It's also relatively easy to improve (Juice Defender, reduced screen brightness, etc.). Also, if I try to open too many games at once it may freeze on occasion, but all of the 3D games are very hardcore, resource-intensive applications so any phone will freak if you push it too far.
I couldn't be happier with it.

[Q] Are the Zgpax S6 and the CL-W211 the same smartwatch?

I have recently seen an explosion of new Android phone/ smart watches coming to market from China, all with similar specs. I am interested in buying the CL-W211 which just came out. When reviewing the specifications I notice that they are almost exactly the same as the Zgpax S6, and even on one website on one of the pictures of the CL-W211 you see the S6 model number - Are these two watches one and the same?
Also, I find it very odd that both smartwatches seem very close in appearance to the Samsung Galaxy Gear - Could this be a preview of what the Samsung Galaxy Gear Solo is going to look like?
If anyone already owns one, I would love to hear what they think about the device.
If there are any of you who might be interested in this type of Android tech, here are the specifications of the CL-W211:
Android: Android OS v4.04.
GPS: Built in GPS. Support A-GPS, GLONASS
Networks:
Band 2GGSM 850/900/1800/1900MHz.
Band 3G: WCDMA 850MHz/1900MHz/2100MHz
Wifi: 802.11 b/g/n
Bluetooth Version: 4.0
SIM card: Single SIM Card Single Standby
Memory card: Support 32G
Single Camera: 2.0MP
CPU: MTK6577. CPU Frequency: 1.0GHz (Dual Core)
RAM: 512MB.
ROM: 4GB
Battery Capacity: 700mAh
Standby Time: About 2~3 days
LCD Size: 1.54 inch, 240×240 pixel OGS capacitive screen ( for iPad Mini screen )
Net Weight: 66g (Including battery)
Dimension: 60×43×17mm
Looks the same to me.
I received my Zgpax S6 three days ago, pretty satisfied with it so far.
Good reception on all radios: about the same as any other android phone I've used, really, which is impressive given the size.
Easy to root.
Very fast processor, gets out of and back into deep sleep quickly, so good standby life
Surprising app compatibility. Stock versions of apps like Soundcloud, Pandora, Kindle, Youtube, Slingbox, and plenty of others reformat themselves to the screen size well, though there are rare issues where you have to be a bit clever. Got Google Voice Search working with a fix from the S5 thread, and others have Google Now launcher working. I'm using ADW launcher with a 4x4 grid.
Uses a long-style micro USB (8mm), regular micro USB cables will bump up against the outside of the watch. You can get extras online if you search for "8mm micro usb".
Big, but not too big. I have small arms/wrists and it still looks reasonably normal on me.
Good speaker/mic, but calls can sound a little quiet. There might be a way to boost this but I haven't looked into it. Media sounds good and loud. Bluetooth audio and calling works very well.
Because the processor is so fast, it can blow through the battery quickly if you run something that does a ton of processing and prevents lower power states from being entered for a long time. For instance, you can run pandora or soundcloud for hours and hours without draining the battery too much, and Youtube isn't too bad, but something live like streaming video or radio will make it hot and angry in just a few minutes.
The headset/earbuds it comes with (which connects through that extended micro-usb port, there's no 3.5mm jack) is actually pretty well made. It improves FM reception, too, which sounds great on local stations.
All of the software and fixes for the S5 work on the S6, so this thread is still extremely useful:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2575556
jordanManfrey said:
Looks the same to me.
I received my Zgpax S6 three days ago, pretty satisfied with it so far.
Good reception on all radios: about the same as any other android phone I've used, really, which is impressive given the size.
Easy to root.
Very fast processor, gets out of and back into deep sleep quickly, so good standby life
Surprising app compatibility. Stock versions of apps like Soundcloud, Pandora, Kindle, Youtube, Slingbox, and plenty of others reformat themselves to the screen size well, though there are rare issues where you have to be a bit clever. Got Google Voice Search working with a fix from the S5 thread, and others have Google Now launcher working. I'm using ADW launcher with a 4x4 grid.
Uses a long-style micro USB (8mm), regular micro USB cables will bump up against the outside of the watch. You can get extras online if you search for "8mm micro usb".
Big, but not too big. I have small arms/wrists and it still looks reasonably normal on me.
Good speaker/mic, but calls can sound a little quiet. There might be a way to boost this but I haven't looked into it. Media sounds good and loud. Bluetooth audio and calling works very well.
Because the processor is so fast, it can blow through the battery quickly if you run something that does a ton of processing and prevents lower power states from being entered for a long time. For instance, you can run pandora or soundcloud for hours and hours without draining the battery too much, and Youtube isn't too bad, but something live like streaming video or radio will make it hot and angry in just a few minutes.
The headset/earbuds it comes with (which connects through that extended micro-usb port, there's no 3.5mm jack) is actually pretty well made. It improves FM reception, too, which sounds great on local stations.
All of the software and fixes for the S5 work on the S6, so this thread is still extremely useful:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2575556
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Thanks for the reply and preliminary review. I am glad your watch is working so well, and I am excited for the arrival of mine in mid to late September. Thanks also for the link to the tricks/ fixes for the S5, which should come in handy. If I may, two additional questions:
- Is the Play Store preinstalled?
- Can you use it to tether (do you have access to all the Android settings)?
Thanks again for your feedback!
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- Is the Play Store preinstalled?
- Can you use it to tether (do you have access to all the Android settings)?
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jordanManfrey said:
Looks the same to me.
I received my Zgpax S6 three days ago, pretty satisfied with it so far.
Good reception on all radios: about the same as any other android phone I've used, really, which is impressive given the size.
Easy to root.
Very fast processor, gets out of and back into deep sleep quickly, so good standby life
Surprising app compatibility. Stock versions of apps like Soundcloud, Pandora, Kindle, Youtube, Slingbox, and plenty of others reformat themselves to the screen size well, though there are rare issues where you have to be a bit clever. Got Google Voice Search working with a fix from the S5 thread, and others have Google Now launcher working. I'm using ADW launcher with a 4x4 grid.
Uses a long-style micro USB (8mm), regular micro USB cables will bump up against the outside of the watch. You can get extras online if you search for "8mm micro usb".
Big, but not too big. I have small arms/wrists and it still looks reasonably normal on me.
Good speaker/mic, but calls can sound a little quiet. There might be a way to boost this but I haven't looked into it. Media sounds good and loud. Bluetooth audio and calling works very well.
Because the processor is so fast, it can blow through the battery quickly if you run something that does a ton of processing and prevents lower power states from being entered for a long time. For instance, you can run pandora or soundcloud for hours and hours without draining the battery too much, and Youtube isn't too bad, but something live like streaming video or radio will make it hot and angry in just a few minutes.
The headset/earbuds it comes with (which connects through that extended micro-usb port, there's no 3.5mm jack) is actually pretty well made. It improves FM reception, too, which sounds great on local stations.
All of the software and fixes for the S5 work on the S6, so this thread is still extremely useful:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2575556
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I also tried root the S6, but I have problem with TWRP, touch screen doesn´t work, in this case I can´t instlall new ROM. How did you solve it? Have you same problem as me?
TWRP and GPS
lizzy1 said:
I also tried root the S6, but I have problem with TWRP, touch screen doesn´t work, in this case I can´t instlall new ROM. How did you solve it? Have you same problem as me?
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I have the exact same problem, worse, when I reset it gets stuck on the TWRP screen. I installed the Modified UI and the touch still doesn't work, the buttons don't work either.
My biggest issue is my GPS can't get a lock, it's like plus or minus 3 miles. My EPO won't download, any ideas?
Installed the Windows launcher, I Love it now.
ZGPAX S6 = CL-W211 smartwatch
I just received my ZGPAX S6 today (labelled CL-W211), and here are my first impressions:
Pros:
- Bloatware free, full Android 4.04
- Screen is bright, easy to read and responsive
- Device has decent performance for such modest specifications
- So far all the features tested have work. I still have to test the GPS.
- Speaker quality is excellent
Cons:
- Battery life is terrible, especially if you use many of the phone's features at once
- WiFi reception is very weak
- Build quality is not the best and makes you wonder about durability
- Chinese instructions and power plug were useless and a bit of a joke considering where the device was being shipped to
I think this watch phone has potential, and will serve me well as a proof of concept until more sophisticated models are released.

Why does my Z3 have such poor performance

I came from using an iPhone. The things I loved about iOS were the smoothness of the operating system (especially the animations and scrolling in apps) and the nice slection of apps that is available. Now I was up for a new phone last month and after serieusly considering the new iPhone 6 I decided to give Android another go. I really liked what google had done with android 5 and the new apps coming out were much more to my taste. I tried several phones in shops and my wife's One plus One. To my surprise the one plus was very smooth most of the time. Scrolling was finally almost without lag and it felt nice enough to use.
Now I decided to go for the Z3 as I loved the phone itself. As it has the same insides as the oneplus I assumed it would be just as smooth. It isn't. Its a lot more laggy and that is especially the case when scrolling in various twitter and rss apps. I annoys me to the point where I read want to ditch the phone.
I have tried several factory resets and even flashed the stock firmware (old and new) via flash tool. Whatever I do it doesn't seem to help. Why is the one plus (and the nexus 9) so much smoother than my Z3 when I use them side by side. Is there something I could try to improve this? Maybe performance will improve when we finally get Lollipop? I am at a loss.
Just a thought, but under Settings > Power Management > STAMINA mode, do you have Extended usage turned on?
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Just a thought, but under Settings > Power Management > STAMINA mode, do you have Extended usage turned on?
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I have. But I only when have stamina mode turned on when I don't use the phone for long periods. Otherwise it is turned of.
Try turning it off and reboot your device. Normally the Z3 is working buttery smooth without any lag or stuttering. When activating extended usage the phone should display a message advising you to keep the setting turned off if it causes too much performance issues. In my experience, once you turn extended usage on, it kind of remains active in the background until you actually reboot the phone, even if you turn the setting off. I also find that the performance loss coming with the extended usage setting is out of all proportion to its power saving abilities.
Tried but that has no effect. Still way less smooth scrolling through fenix timeline than scrolling through exact same timeline on my wife's one plus. Really strange. Games are comparable but scrolling in all apps is just poor.
what firmware are you using? before the latest update mine was a bit laggy, but even with extended stamina mode enabled all the time now, phone is super quick.
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what firmware are you using? before the latest update mine was a bit laggy, but even with extended stamina mode enabled all the time now, phone is super quick.
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23.0.1.A.5.77
Tried reflashing it twice with full factory reset and still no improvement. I will say it is slightly less laggy though than it was on the previous firmware. Maybe its just i am used to IOS. But what bothers me is that my wife's Oneplus is much smoother while that has the same hardware,.
hoekzemaar said:
23.0.1.A.5.77
Tried reflashing it twice with full factory reset and still no improvement. I will say it is slightly less laggy though than it was on the previous firmware. Maybe its just i am used to IOS. But what bothers me is that my wife's Oneplus is much smoother while that has the same hardware,.
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what apps do you have installed? my z3 next to other peoples iphone 6's and s5 etc, seems lightning quick, again with extended stamina enabled. maybe you have a rogue app or an app running in the background killing your resources?
No looked into that. That's not the problem.
Maybe the title of the thread is misleading. I agree the Z3 is snappier than an iPhone. That's pure speed though. What I am talking about is smoothness. Particularly when scrolling. That's when the laggyness is most noticeable
hoekzemaar said:
No looked into that. That's not the problem.
Maybe the title of the thread is misleading. I agree the Z3 is snappier than an iPhone. That's pure speed though. What I am talking about is smoothness. Particularly when scrolling. That's when the laggyness is most noticeable
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i never really thought about it before, but maybe because i am using apex launcher? are you able to try another launcher, do you get the same thing?
do you have any dev options enabled?
I use Nova Launcher. The launcher is fine. Its scrolling inside apps that is the main problem. And occasionally elsewhere in the os but going through homescreens is smooth
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I use Nova Launcher. The launcher is fine. Its scrolling inside apps that is the main problem. And occasionally elsewhere in the os but going through homescreens is smooth
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ok so its the apps that cause the problem then. how about the dev menu, do you have any options in there enabled? if so which ones.
Only Verify apps over USB and USB debugging.
hmm, not sure what else to suggest looking at. maybe someone else will have an idea? something is clearly not quite right though. have you tried using cpuz to see what your cpu is doing? do you get fullspeed on the cpu?
henson0115 said:
hmm, not sure what else to suggest looking at. maybe someone else will have an idea? something is clearly not quite right though. have you tried using cpuz to see what your cpu is doing? do you get fullspeed on the cpu?
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Just checked. It seems like the CPU is working fine though there are a lot of spikes when I only have cpuz open.
I think I will probably just wait and see what lollipop has to offer in a month or so and if it doesn't improve I'll likely switch back to an iPhone. Maybe my priorities are just in the wrong place for android.
Have u tried using any other Z3's as a point of reference? The comparisons that I've seen btwn the OnePlus & the Z3 seem to state near identical performance re: ui smoothness & stutter free scrolling, etc.
I, for one, have no such issues with my Z3 although I may not be comparing the same apps with which u speak of? I'm using Nova Launcher & the lollipop theme.
Stixxbixby said:
Have u tried using any other Z3's as a point of reference? The comparisons that I've seen btwn the OnePlus & the Z3 seem to state near identical performance re: ui smoothness & stutter free scrolling, etc.
I, for one, have no such issues with my Z3 although I may not be comparing the same apps with which u speak of? I'm using Nova Launcher & the lollipop theme.
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Unfortunately I have no way of comparing another Z3. All the apps that I use are not installed on the demo models in shops. I have been using my wife's oneplus now for 24 hours and the difference is immense. I would say it is almost completely lag free. A lot nicer to use. Such a disappointment for me as I really wanted to like the Sony more than I do. I now also notice that I very much dislike the glass back.
hoekzemaar said:
I came from using an iPhone. The things I loved about iOS were the smoothness of the operating system (especially the animations and scrolling in apps) and the nice slection of apps that is available. Now I was up for a new phone last month and after serieusly considering the new iPhone 6 I decided to give Android another go. I really liked what google had done with android 5 and the new apps coming out were much more to my taste. I tried several phones in shops and my wife's One plus One. To my surprise the one plus was very smooth most of the time. Scrolling was finally almost without lag and it felt nice enough to use.
Now I decided to go for the Z3 as I loved the phone itself. As it has the same insides as the oneplus I assumed it would be just as smooth. It isn't. Its a lot more laggy and that is especially the case when scrolling in various twitter and rss apps. I annoys me to the point where I read want to ditch the phone.
I have tried several factory resets and even flashed the stock firmware (old and new) via flash tool. Whatever I do it doesn't seem to help. Why is the one plus (and the nexus 9) so much smoother than my Z3 when I use them side by side. Is there something I could try to improve this? Maybe performance will improve when we finally get Lollipop? I am at a loss.
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First thing
Please don't compare iOS to Android..they are both very much different platform and iOS manages memory very much efficiently and also their hardware platform is completely different from other companies.
Now About OnePlus > it uses CyanogenMod which is modded to work more efficiently than pure android or any other skinned android like SenseUI, XperiaUI or TouchWizUI.
Nexus 6 uses pure android which is way more light then other UI so you got the answer maybe why our Z3 lags...but i dont mind a little lag here and there..its quite normal its a phone after all..
My mom has the iPhone 6, I can't say its any better than my Z3 in function but the Z3 has a much much better battery life and is as smooth as the iPhone 6. Maybe you have an errant app/s, try a factory reset is nothing works. Most people who switch to Android from iPhone seem to prefer HTC Sense UI, my dad bought the M8 for that very reason. The Z3 is pretty close to stock and almost as good as Sense in my opinion and is stutter free in use.
I don't know about CM being more efficient because some review sites like GSMArena found the colors OS version of the Oppo phone to be better performing and having slightly better battery wise. CM is less cluttered compared to OEM garbage and has more useful options though.
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My mom has the iPhone 6, I can't say its any better than my Z3 in function but the Z3 has a much much better battery life and is as smooth as the iPhone 6. Maybe you have an errant app/s, try a factory reset is nothing works. Most people who switch to Android from iPhone seem to prefer HTC Sense UI, my dad bought the M8 for that very reason. The Z3 is pretty close to stock and almost as good as Sense in my opinion and is stutter free in use.
I don't know about CM being more efficient because some review sites like GSMArena found the colors OS version of the Oppo phone to be better performing and having slightly better battery wise. CM is less cluttered compared to OEM garbage and has more useful options though.
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I would want to agree on that...my friend... Completely true...

Does LG G Flex 2 still worth it in 2016 for $170?

My local online shop sell this phone for only $170 brand new, which is steal for a snapdragon 810 devices(At least in my country). The model is H959 with 32gb storage and 2gb ram i believe. Im upgrading from lumia 1520. Does it worth it? Thanks in advance (Sorry for my bad english)
170$? US Dollars? I would say shut up and take my money!
Even if you have to know that the development is really bad because no Android6root and no bootloaderunlock - for now, and probably forever. Thank you lg!
On top of that, the screen brightness range is a joke.. A bad one. Don't get me wrong, it's sharp and clear but during day it's not THAT Bright and at night it's like looking right into the Sun.
Overheating and lag is gone for me since android6 but root is gone too so... Meh :/
Battery is okay but don't expect too much - but you still can get 2 days if you handle it right.
Camera is still far above average I would say (good at night, ois, laserfocus, even 4k, but ****ty slomo compared to iPhones)
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From H955 16gb
Edit: still would buy again though.. It's still best bang for the bucks and literally physically indestructible
No. I had nothing but problems with mine. Regretted buying it so much. I especially hated the battery life, the software and that you can't turn double tap to wake off unless you installed a 3rd party app. If you have to buy it, I'd go for the 3gb ram version. I had the 2gb version and the user experience was miserable.
I replaced mine with a Oneplus 3 and never looked back.
ChildishGambino3005 said:
No. I had nothing but problems with mine. Regretted buying it so much. I especially hated the battery life, the software and that you can't turn double tap to wake off unless you installed a 3rd party app. If you have to buy it, I'd go for the 3gb ram version. I had the 2gb version and the user experience was miserable.
I replaced mine with a Oneplus 3 and never looked back.
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I have to disagree regarding getting the 3GB H950 over the 2GB versions unless you are a AT&T customer, for the following reasons:-
- Even if you are an AT&T customer, the H950 is stuck on 5.1.1. and the battery life sucks.
- If you are not an AT&T customer, the H950 is on 5.0.1 and you can only get it upgraded by having an AT&T sim card in the phone and connected to there network. Take it from me, getting to even 5.1.1 is a nightmare. :crying:
Totally agree though regarding the One Plus 3, the user experience is second to none. :victory:
Buy it if is H955 !!!!! Update to Marshmallow and enjoy it ! Super fast, not overheat more then other LG for example LG3, great camera, great display, great design .
I used before LG Optimus One ( 2 years) Samsung Galaxy S2 ( 3 years) LG G3 (1 year) all rooted using with custom roms, so I know what I am talking about !
H955 its a very good phone only with Marshmallow because let you using other programs , like google phone changing your default dialer , google messaging , so I don't need root for this phone.
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170$? US Dollars? I would say shut up and take my money!
Even if you have to know that the development is really bad because no Android6root and no bootloaderunlock - for now, and probably forever. Thank you lg!
On top of that, the screen brightness range is a joke.. A bad one. Don't get me wrong, it's sharp and clear but during day it's not THAT Bright and at night it's like looking right into the Sun.
Overheating and lag is gone for me since android6 but root is gone too so... Meh :/
Battery is okay but don't expect too much - but you still can get 2 days if you handle it right.
Camera is still far above average I would say (good at night, ois, laserfocus, even 4k, but ****ty slomo compared to iPhones)
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From H955 16gb
Edit: still would buy again though.. It's still best bang for the bucks and literally physically indestructible
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Sunlight contrast ratio its very good for G Flex 2
"Under direct sunlight, the LG G Flex2 is able to retain excellent contrast and stay legible even in the most brightly lit environments." .. gsmarena.com
http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_g_flex2-review-1209p3.php
paco68 said:
Buy it if is H955 !!!!!
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But does the H955 work on GSM carriers like AT&T?
And how can we tell if we have 2 gb ram or 3gb ram?
Here is an Amazon url to H955 in USA
https://www.amazon.com/LG-Unlocked-Phone-Internal-Memory/dp/B00UFWB0FW/ref=cm_cd_al_qh_dp_t
Will this phone work in the United States?
https://www.amazon.com/forum/-/Tx2EO3MN7WXWLA5/ref=ask_ql_ql_al_hza?asin=B00UFWB0FW
Does it work with At&T?
https://www.amazon.com/forum/-/Tx31RGWWG40E4P1/ref=ask_ql_ql_al_hza?asin=B00UFWB0FW
Masteryates said:
I have to disagree regarding getting the 3GB H950 over the 2GB versions unless you are a AT&T customer, for the following reasons:-
- Even if you are an AT&T customer, the H950 is stuck on 5.1.1. and the battery life sucks.
- If you are not an AT&T customer, the H950 is on 5.0.1 and you can only get it upgraded by having an AT&T sim card in the phone and connected to there network. Take it from me, getting to even 5.1.1 is a nightmare. :crying:
Totally agree though regarding the One Plus 3, the user experience is second to none. :victory:
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Agreed. It depends on what you need, I guess.
The thing i hated the most about the 2gb version is the apps and tabs reloading in chrome or other web browsers. It reloads every time I leave a tab for more than 20 seconds. I have to use this secure website for work and would have to log back in every time the website reloads. So i would be on this website, pulling some information off it to send a text to my client, go back for additional information, and it would force me to log in again and search the database again. Rinse and repeat about 20 times a day. I think the lack of ram and the ram management was responsible for it. I would have never expected that from a 2015 flagship-ish phone.
ChildishGambino3005 said:
Agreed. It depends on what you need, I guess.
The thing i hated the most about the 2gb version is the apps and tabs reloading in chrome or other web browsers. It reloads every time I leave a tab for more than 20 seconds. I have to use this secure website for work and would have to log back in every time the website reloads. So i would be on this website, pulling some information off it to send a text to my client, go back for additional information, and it would force me to log in again and search the database again. Rinse and repeat about 20 times a day. I think the lack of ram and the ram management was responsible for it. I would have never expected that from a 2015 flagship-ish phone.
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I think this is a software issue and not a hardware !
I use the default browser.
I Never use the Chrome on mobile devices.
ChildishGambino3005 said:
Agreed. It depends on what you need, I guess.
The thing i hated the most about the 2gb version is the apps and tabs reloading in chrome or other web browsers. It reloads every time I leave a tab for more than 20 seconds. I have to use this secure website for work and would have to log back in every time the website reloads. So i would be on this website, pulling some information off it to send a text to my client, go back for additional information, and it would force me to log in again and search the database again. Rinse and repeat about 20 times a day. I think the lack of ram and the ram management was responsible for it. I would have never expected that from a 2015 flagship-ish phone.
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I feel you. I used to have these sorts of issues on the Nexus 9. Things improved when I switched to Habit Browser as that seemed to be less RAM intensive than bloated Chrome. There were also some custom roms on the Nexus 9 which would employ zRAM to effectively buy another 0.5GB. Maybe something you could look at? I also went for the H950 for the Mrs due to being concerned that 2GB wasn't enough on the other versions. Its starting to feel like you cant win either way with the GF2. :crying:
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Buy it if is H955 !!!!! Update to Marshmallow and enjoy it ! Super fast, not overheat more then other LG for example LG3, great camera, great display, great design .
I used before LG Optimus One ( 2 years) Samsung Galaxy S2 ( 3 years) LG G3 (1 year) all rooted using with custom roms, so I know what I am talking about !
H955 its a very good phone only with Marshmallow because let you using other programs , like google phone changing your default dialer , google messaging , so I don't need root for this phone.
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Sunlight contrast ratio its very good for G Flex 2
"Under direct sunlight, the LG G Flex2 is able to retain excellent contrast and stay legible even in the most brightly lit environments." .. gsmarena.com
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Hi I am considering getting a Flex 2. I went from considering ordering a H950 At&t variant from abroad because of the extra storage and RAM. However after seeing that it will probably never get marshmallow and probably has more bloatware on it than other versions, I am thinking that even the weaker H955 might work better with Marshmallow since it should be a lot more optimized for the SD810 SOC and maybe better RAM management too. I would appreciate if you could give your opinion on some things:
- What is the bloatware situation on the Flex 2 Marshmallow ROM out of the box?
- Have you seen an increase in speed on everyday use( compared to 5.1.1/11)? Such as opening apps and multitasking.
- Have you seen a decrease in heating and throttling issues?
-Have you seen an increase in battery life?
- Have you tried any low or high end gaming? If so what is the performance like on Marshmallow?
- Has the minimum brightness issue been fixed?
- Have you tried different launchers to see if there has been an improvement in performance?
Many thanks
danslb said:
Hi I am considering getting a Flex 2. I went from considering ordering a H950 At&t variant from abroad because of the extra storage and RAM. However after seeing that it will probably never get marshmallow and probably has more bloatware on it than other versions, I am thinking that even the weaker H955 might work better with Marshmallow since it should be a lot more optimized for the SD810 SOC and maybe better RAM management too. I would appreciate if you could give your opinion on some things:
- What is the bloatware situation on the Flex 2 Marshmallow ROM out of the box?
- Have you seen an increase in speed on everyday use( compared to 5.1.1/11)? Such as opening apps and multitasking.
- Have you seen a decrease in heating and throttling issues?
-Have you seen an increase in battery life?
- Have you tried any low or high end gaming? If so what is the performance like on Marshmallow?
- Has the minimum brightness issue been fixed?
- Have you tried different launchers to see if there has been an improvement in performance?
Many thanks
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- What is the bloatware situation on the Flex 2 Marshmallow ROM out of the box?
Possibility to disable uninstall / reinstall LG apps if you don't like.
- Have you seen an increase in speed on everyday use( compared to 5.1.1/11)? Such as opening apps and multitasking.
Yes
- Have you seen a decrease in heating and throttling issues?
Yes
-Have you seen an increase in battery life?
Same, my record is more then 120 Hours but if you use intense you drain the battery more quickly.
- Have you tried any low or high end gaming? If so what is the performance like on Marshmallow?
Not tried.
- Has the minimum brightness issue been fixed?
What issue ? On 0% still see the display very good.
- Have you tried different launchers to see if there has been an improvement in performance?
Nova Launcher work great.
paco68 said:
good phone only with Marshmallow because let you using other programs , like google phone changing your default dialer , google messaging , so I don't need root for this phone.
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Would you mind explaining what you mean? I don't exactly understand.
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- Has the minimum brightness issue been fixed?
What issue ? On 0% still see the display very good.
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Generally speaking the reviews and users report that at min brightness it was way too bright so for viewing in the darkness it is just too hard on the eyes.
danslb said:
Would you mind explaining what you mean? I don't exactly understand.
Generally speaking the reviews and users report that at min brightness it was way too bright so for viewing in the darkness it is just too hard on the eyes.
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You can install Google Phone: google-phone-3-01-08_rc8-android-apk-download/ RC8 is the last version that work on MM and is not a Nexus phone.
Also you will find Google Apps here : http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/google-inc/

S7: Still worth it in 2018?

Hi all,
I'm planning on getting my wife a brand new S7, but I'm not sure if the phone still performs well compared to most modern smarphones in 2018. She needs nothing special - just a good camera & overall smooth experience.
I'll be happy to read our thoughts on this.
Cheers!
yes, the S7 is still a good phone and has as well the latest software available.
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dante_tds said:
Hi all,
I'm planning on getting my wife a brand new S7, but I'm not sure if the phone still performs well compared to most modern smartphones in 2018. She needs nothing special - just a good camera & overall smooth experience.
I'll be happy to read our thoughts on this.
Cheers!
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If I wasn't a sucker for new phones and latest tech I would have no need to upgrade my S7 to anything newer, still super quick with amazing camera, and after almost 2 years still getting good battery life
Your wife would be happy with an S7
go on the s7. I can't find a replacement at less than 400 euros : camera As good as a s8 or recent smartphones under 600€.
Good battery life and very smooth
Depends on the pricing.
For this money u get a 2016 flagship, not to compare with a midrange 2018 phone which cost the same.
The hardware of the s7 will be much better.
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*Detection* said:
If I wasn't a sucker for new phones and latest tech I would have no need to upgrade my S7 to anything newer, still super quick with amazing camera, and after almost 2 years still getting good battery life
Your wife would be happy with an S7
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Hi Detection,
I know this is out of this topic, but wanted to ask you. I believe you are on Oreo right now, what do you find better than on Nougat. Jumped into nougat only a couple of months ago, and really getting more battery life than on MM, and other things are much better and smooth.
Is Oreo really worth it for our S7?
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wegiwegi said:
Hi Detection,
I know this is out of this topic, but wanted to ask you. I believe you are on Oreo right now, what do you find better than on Nougat. Jumped into nougat only a couple of months ago, and really getting more battery life than on MM, and other things are much better and smooth.
Is Oreo really worth it for our S7?
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Pros:
Better battery life (but could be from the factory reset)
While out away from WiFi, 4G/LTE uses next to no battery now, I can go out with 100% battery, listen to music for my 30 min walk to the gym, 2-3 hours there, then another 30 mins walk back listing to music, and still have 92% when I get home
Slightly better performance of the OS
If an SMS has a link, it shows a thumbnail of the site without becoming MMS
PiP able to watch videos/YT while using the phone for other things
Dual Messenger (Use two separate accounts for the same app such as WhatsApp, only just discovered this, not sure if it was in Nougat)
Some others that I can't remember off hand
Cons:
Keep screen off while in a dark place such as bag/pocket is gone, now it just stops touch working but allows the screen to remain on say if you get an SMS (dumb)
Charging sound now part of System volume level, so no charge connect sound if you lower system volume to kill shutter sound
When downloading an APK via the browser or other app, the notification saying it has completed downloading no longer allows you to start the install by pressing it, it just clears the notification forcing you to go find it via a file explorer (This could be a bug as it has worked one time only since upgrading)
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Would I go back to Nougat?
No not really, wouldn't take the chance on the battery life again, and I can live with the cons which I'm guessing could be improved / fixed over time, for a first release (re-release) it's a good update for me
It's not a massive update to Nougat, could really easily have been just a normal update to Nougat itself, more like a service pack than a full OS update IMO, nothing like MM > N
If you've just moved to N then I'd just wait until O is pushed to your phone via OTA, not really anything worth shouting about
*Detection* said:
Pros:
Better battery life (but could be from the factory reset)
Slightly better performance of the OS
If an SMS has a link, it shows a thumbnail of the site without becoming MMS
PiP able to watch videos/YT while using the phone for other things
Dual Messenger (Use two separate accounts for the same app such as WhatsApp, only just discovered this, not sure if it was in Nougat)
Some others that I can't remember off hand
Cons:
Keep screen off while in a dark place such as bag/pocket is gone, now it just stops touch working but allows the screen to remain on say if you get an SMS (dumb)
Charging sound now part of System volume level, so no charge connect sound if you lower system volume to kill shutter sound
When downloading an APK via the browser or other app, the notification saying it has completed downloading no longer allows you to start the install by pressing it, it just clears the notification forcing you to go find it via a file explorer (This could be a bug as it has worked one time only since upgrading)
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Would I go back to Nougat?
No not really, wouldn't take the chance on the battery life again, and I can live with the cons which I'm guessing could be improved / fixed over time, for a first release (re-release) it's a good update for me
It's not a massive update to Nougat, could really easily have been just a normal update to Nougat itself, more like a service pack than a full OS update IMO, nothing like MM > N
If you've just moved to N then I'd just wait until O is pushed to your phone via OTA, not really anything worth shouting about
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Thanks for the info, I will wait for the OTA when it comes then.

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