Moto G or Nexus 4 (Dev in mind) - Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi guys,
I'm thinking of getting either a Moto G or a (used) Nexus 4 for a friend who might be getting into Android development. I understand that Nexus devices are the most developer friendly but in what way and by how much will the Moto G be worse off as a developer device?
Development aside, I'd rather get the Moto G because it'll new and has better battery life. The higher specs / better gaming experience of the Nexus 4 is not that important for my friend.
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Custom roms can be built for the N4 using 4.4.2 and custom recoveries are fully function. For the Moto G, the latest rom is 4.3 and there is no fully functional custom recovery.
Once the bootloader on the Moto G has been unlocked, I don't think there is a method to re-lock the bootloader to restore the warranty.

I would say that u buy the nexus 4 for a cheap price and sell it with a higher price than u bought it , then u can buy the moto g
Seriousely buy the nexus 4 if its not too much used cause the specs are better and if battery life is not good then u can buy a new one and change it http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Nexus+4+Teardown/11781

The nexus should have a larger community for the next 1-2yrs.
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[Q] Should I keep my HTC One X or move to the Moto G?

I've posted this on Reddit, but I want to know the opinion of the new Moto G community.
Here goes:
I have my very loved HTC One X (International) with me at the moment. I've been happy with it after a year and a half.
My phone has the HOX wifi fault. And the battery life barely gives me 2-3 hours screen on time. I've tried underclocking, flashed custom roms, kernels, etc. But the battery still doesn't last me within the day. Not even until noon.
But I've been reading pretty good stuff about the Moto G and it's hardcore battery life.
I know that somehow I'm downgrading. I'll miss the slightly larger screen though. Also, I don't care about the camera, because I have my Canon EOS M with me which I can copy pictures to the phone via USB OTG.
Would it be worth it if I sell my HOX and get that one? Or do you have a phone to recommend me? I'm planning to get a Pebble smartwatch too if ever.
P.S. I'll be able to sell my hox for like $220-ish here in the Philippines. My cousin is in the US at the moment for the holiday season. So I have my way to get that phone.
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monchee said:
Would it be worth it if I sell my HOX and get that one? Or do you have a phone to recommend me?
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Get a Moto G, it's really good.
Before I bought the Moto g I had the opportunity to buy a used One X. Same price I thought "get the newer Google Device".. Now having the moto g I am very happy with that! Get the Moto g.
The only thing that isn't good is the cam..
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Zurko said:
Before I bought the Moto g I had the opportunity to buy a used One X. Same price I thought "get the newer Google Device".. Now having the moto g I am very happy with that! Get the Moto g.
The only thing that isn't good is the cam..
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Few day's after getting Moto G, I got as gift Sony Xperia Z1, and as I prefer Moto G, the Z1 is still in box and I think I will not use it (too big, too heavy etc) at all, but as it's a gift, I also can't sell it.
If you cant sell it, give it as a gift to me, i will sell it and give you 40% of the price
Thanks for the tips! I'll be selling my HOX soon. Hopefully before Christmas.
Only phone I recommend over the moto g is the nexus 5
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Hi. The moto g is the way to go so far the battery experience is much better than the nexus 4 the phone I used have and the nexus 4 is a beauty. 50 gigas in Google drive and I have run all the apps that I did in my nexus excepting a couple like gravity box and touch control (gravity box works OK in 4.3 but it doesn't in 4.4.2) the others work flawlessly. I have no experience with pebble but I have a sony smartwatch 2 and it works nicely with the moto g. So my advice based on my experience get the moto g. Besides those kind guys who are developing are working hard to allows to have those tweaks we love.
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sorry to bring up an old thread but to the op
How are you finding the Moto G in relation to the one X?
My one x has the wifi fault and a horrid battery life and the black screen of death and so I definately need a new device until upgrade time
Would you recommend a Moto G?
Thanks
enrique097 said:
Hi. The moto g is the way to go so far the battery experience is much better than the nexus 4 the phone I used have and the nexus 4 is a beauty. 50 gigas in Google drive and I have run all the apps that I did in my nexus excepting a couple like gravity box and touch control (gravity box works OK in 4.3 but it doesn't in 4.4.2) the others work flawlessly. I have no experience with pebble but I have a sony smartwatch 2 and it works nicely with the moto g. So my advice based on my experience get the moto g. Besides those kind guys who are developing are working hard to allows to have those tweaks we love.
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Do you know there are two versions of gravitybox, one for jellybean and one for kitkat
Yadash said:
sorry to bring up an old thread but to the op
How are you finding the Moto G in relation to the one X?
My one x has the wifi fault and a horrid battery life and the black screen of death and so I definately need a new device until upgrade time
Would you recommend a Moto G?
Thanks
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I also have the wifi fault with my HOX, and battery life was very terrible. I had to do lots of tweaks that compromises the performance of the phone to get more juice, but still has bad battery life.
I'm glad that I was able to sell my HOX for $220+ here in the Philippines, and got myself the Moto G plus a shell that my cousin will be bringing home from the US. Can't wait to get it!
I wasn't able to buy me a Pebble though. The $89 sale at Best Buy was done. Although They announced the Pebble Steel which IMO looks great and I'll try to save for that instead.
I hope I didn't make a bad choice. Battery life is really on my priority list, that's why I didn't try to save up for the Nexus 5.
I really really can't wait!
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I got the Moto G after my One X stopped working. My research suggested that the One X, Nexus 4 and the Moto G were quite similar. In practise, it was similar to the One X, the differences that I've noticed:
The screen size is slightly smaller but not by much. You have quite large bezzels at the top and bottom - there is less screen space because there are no hardware buttons at the bottom as there were on the One X which I find annoying.
It seems to be a bit slower than the One X. Transitioning between apps can be a bit delayed at times.
The camera is significantly worse, but I prefer the camera app.
Battery life may be a bit better (I'm not sure to be honest). However, this may be because I am comparing to a one+ year old phone, and I had a problem with the wifi draining battery (but only with a particular router).
I also switched to CyanogenMod eventually, so the comparison may be slightly inaccurate.
For this price (and anything significantly higher), I would definitely recommend the phone.

Should i Buy a Moto G and sell my S3 Mini?

Hi, everyone I got a deal yesterday, my friend wants to buy my s3 mini and someone is selling me a moto g, I just need a few more bucks which I can get to buy the moto g 16gb, do you think its a good choice? Or should I stay with my s3 mini? Idk what to do, sadly I can't afford a high spec phone right now, but I'm interested on the moto g cause its pure Google, good battery and design, which I love, I'm kinda concerned about the SD too, but also I might buy an iPod which will give me a lot of free memory, merry Xmas BTW
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The Moto G is a better speced phone than the s3 mini. You made the right choice.
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Yes! do it! I came from an s3 mini which i used for about a year. Overall i love the auto brightness on the moto g seeing how the s3 mini doesnt have it and screen at 100% brightness wasn't that good in the sun. While the Moto G at 100% brightness it is very good even in the sun. Also better battery life with medium usage 2.5+ hr of games i was able to get 8 hours of screen on time with 17 hours of standby time! That's really good seeing how i average about 3.5 hours of SOT with my mini. In the end it is worth upgrading to the Moto G!!
Thinking exactly this same thing. I bet I'll order my moto g soon.. This s3 mini is making me sick with all these samsung bloatwares and STericsson's crappy processor with no source code.. So not much development here. Sammy has also left us "because of Samsung is too small company to get source code from STEricsson and make futher android updates." Definitely my first and last sammy device. Nexus/moto line is the way to go. Pure android, nice hardware and great price. 200e about quadcore device, can't go wrong I think
Sd card is thing that makes me wonder but I guess 16GB version is just fine. As I understood moto g should support usb-otg, if so then storage is not problem at all
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Go for it!
Sell the s3 mini and get the moto G, right now! It would be the best decision you've made in the whole year :good:
This is no brainer!
4.4.2 KK and future updates !
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Yes.
What is more you can get 50gigas in Google drive and about the micro sd I ordered the Meenova micro sd card external adaptor it is 12 bucks it has not arrived yet but I hope it will work so that solves the expansion bit.
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Nexus 5 and Moto X (I gen) Modding

Hi, first of all sorry for my english.
I am undecided for my next smartphone between Moto X (I gen) and Nexus 5.
I see the Moto X (I gen) like a Nexus 5, but smaller with more compact size.
I want ask you one thing without consider the display, the camera, the CPU, etc.. only the Modding side of this two smartphone (Custom ROM, Kernel, MOD, Xposed Modules, ...)
What are the things i can do (Modding) with a Nexus 5 that i can't do with a Moto X (I gen)?
Thank you very much for your answer.
* I post the same thread in the Moto X forum.
Lots more development on N5 as even 10 year old children can compile AOSP roms. It is easier to create your own rom on nexus 5. Thats it really.
Longevity of custom software as well. Nexus 5 development will probably continue for a lot longer than Moto's X (2013).
bblzd said:
Longevity of custom software as well. Nexus 5 development will probably continue for a lot longer than Moto's X (2013).
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I'm not convinced on this. Nexus devices historically only seem to offer official support for 18 months. However that said, The Nexus 4 looks to be getting lollipop...
But once a Nexus drops official support, it becomes as difficult as every other phone to develop for once they too have dropped support. If the Nexus 5 finishes with L, there will be no official drivers for M which will make M development really difficult.
I think the Nexus 5 support period for official releases is unknown so it's hard to say with any certainty that we'll get greater longevity.
I know, but i am afraid that the N5 is too big than the Moto X
Polso said:
I know, but i am afraid that the N5 is too big than the Moto X
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Then use that as your decision point. We can't tell you what will be too big for yourself. Sometimes you need to make your own decisions
Polso said:
I know, but i am afraid that the N5 is too big than the Moto X
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The Nexus 5 is only slightly bigger than Moto X.
As a former moto x owner, and now a current Nexus 5 owner, stay with the Nexus 5 hands down
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Polso said:
I know, but i am afraid that the N5 is too big than the Moto X
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Oh plz Nexus 6 [email protected] says hi.
My wife has my X now and I had an N5.
To me they are very similar in most categories. Tho I'd say the X is the slightly better phone overall.
So, want a great phone, smaller than the 5 " plus phones and has unique Moto features...... Get the X.
Want a bigger and great phone too... With far more Development.... Get the N5.
Yes, Development on the X is very limited. And you gotta watch... You get a Verizon, at&t or Republic wireless... You may not get root or be able to unlock the bootloader... So no custom recovery.
Up to you in the end. Not much else can be said here really. They are very evenly matched.

What device to buy?

Hi, can you help me decide what phone to buy? I'm currently using Moto G 4G (XT1039) which I really love for it's flexibility (no problem with unlocking bootloader, flashing TWRP, rooting, using custom ROMs) and clean Android, but it's kinda old and during my experiments I managed to break its 3G modem, so I'm looking for an upgrade. What I'm looking for is a phone with around 5 inch screen, good battery and good developers support, a phone that will last for another couple of years, so something with at least 2GB of ram and good SOC. It doesn't need to be brand new, some 2 years old flagships are welcome. I'm thinking about LG Nexus 5 which is affordable and has nice stats or maybe Moto X 1st edition - I don't know. I'm willing to pay no more than 200 GBP. Thanks for all advice.
minimale_ldz said:
Hi, can you help me decide what phone to buy? I'm currently using Moto G 4G (XT1039) which I really love for it's flexibility (no problem with unlocking bootloader, flashing TWRP, rooting, using custom ROMs) and clean Android, but it's kinda old and during my experiments I managed to break its 3G modem, so I'm looking for an upgrade. What I'm looking for is a phone with around 5 inch screen, good battery and good developers support, a phone that will last for another couple of years, so something with at least 2GB of ram and good SOC. It doesn't need to be brand new, some 2 years old flagships are welcome. I'm thinking about LG Nexus 5 which is affordable and has nice stats or maybe Moto X 1st edition - I don't know. I'm willing to pay no more than 200 GBP. Thanks for all advice.
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go for nexus
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Lg g3
You could find a second-hand OnePlus One under 200GBP

Have you changed your device?

Hi!
I just sold my Moto G 2015, It was getting hectic and I needed a huge update. It was a great phone though.
I just want to ask
"Have you sold your Moto G 2015"
And
"What device replaced your Moto G 2015"
Or if you are planning to replace it
"What phone do you plan to replace your Moto G 2015"
Everyone is welcome to answer
TDINater said:
Hi!
I just sold my Moto G 2015, It was getting hectic and I needed a huge update. It was a great phone though.
I just want to ask
"Have you sold your Moto G 2015"
And
"What device replaced your Moto G 2015"
Or if you are planning to replace it
"What phone do you plan to replace your Moto G 2015"
Everyone is welcome to answer
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Buy op3 if u can else go for redmi note 3
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G4 plus
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Nexus 6p if i could afford it, otherwise yes, redmi note 3
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I moved mine to "backup" status several months ago, and move to a Moto X Pure Edition... It's a good phone but I wish I had gone Axon 7 (or now the Mini).
I will not own another Moto device.
hi,
i am very much liking my MotoG2015 as its doing fine despite of facing so many RAINS
if at all, i want to change my phone.. i would never buy a phone without IPXX ratings , i want a phone which can be used even in rain
if Moto has launched any G4 series with it, i would have bought them.. but sadly they lost me this year
... so expecting that they do for g5 , else i should have to look at other brands ,
finally, i would choose IPXX rated phones, not others even though if they perform excellent
I am still happy with my rooted stock G3. Although IPXX phones are becoming more common. some of my other favorite features are hard to come by such as FM radio and a 5" screen. It seems most new phones are becoming increasing large.
MrTooPhone said:
I am still happy with my rooted stock G3. Although IPXX phones are becoming more common. some of my other favorite features are hard to come by such as FM radio and a 5" screen. It seems most new phones are becoming increasing large.
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yup :highfive:
thats why, i like sony's Style of launching 5 inch phones
but Other than the phone , everything feels crap to me
if at-least, Sony launches same phone with small processor at budget price range .. many people would buy it like we bought MotoG3
acejavelin said:
I moved mine to "backup" status several months ago, and move to a Moto X Pure Edition... It's a good phone but I wish I had gone Axon 7 (or now the Mini).
I will not own another Moto device.
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****... Why?
libert19 said:
****... Why?
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I will kind of retract that, although I still feel betrayed by Moto, there isn't a better device in the G's price range.

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