Nexus 5 and Moto X (I gen) Modding - Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi, first of all sorry for my english.
I am undecided for my next smartphone between Moto X (I gen) and Nexus 5.
I see the Moto X (I gen) like a Nexus 5, but smaller with more compact size.
I want ask you one thing without consider the display, the camera, the CPU, etc.. only the Modding side of this two smartphone (Custom ROM, Kernel, MOD, Xposed Modules, ...)
What are the things i can do (Modding) with a Nexus 5 that i can't do with a Moto X (I gen)?
Thank you very much for your answer.
* I post the same thread in the Moto X forum.

Lots more development on N5 as even 10 year old children can compile AOSP roms. It is easier to create your own rom on nexus 5. Thats it really.

Longevity of custom software as well. Nexus 5 development will probably continue for a lot longer than Moto's X (2013).

bblzd said:
Longevity of custom software as well. Nexus 5 development will probably continue for a lot longer than Moto's X (2013).
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I'm not convinced on this. Nexus devices historically only seem to offer official support for 18 months. However that said, The Nexus 4 looks to be getting lollipop...
But once a Nexus drops official support, it becomes as difficult as every other phone to develop for once they too have dropped support. If the Nexus 5 finishes with L, there will be no official drivers for M which will make M development really difficult.
I think the Nexus 5 support period for official releases is unknown so it's hard to say with any certainty that we'll get greater longevity.

I know, but i am afraid that the N5 is too big than the Moto X

Polso said:
I know, but i am afraid that the N5 is too big than the Moto X
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Then use that as your decision point. We can't tell you what will be too big for yourself. Sometimes you need to make your own decisions

Polso said:
I know, but i am afraid that the N5 is too big than the Moto X
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The Nexus 5 is only slightly bigger than Moto X.

As a former moto x owner, and now a current Nexus 5 owner, stay with the Nexus 5 hands down
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Polso said:
I know, but i am afraid that the N5 is too big than the Moto X
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Oh plz Nexus 6 [email protected] says hi.

My wife has my X now and I had an N5.
To me they are very similar in most categories. Tho I'd say the X is the slightly better phone overall.
So, want a great phone, smaller than the 5 " plus phones and has unique Moto features...... Get the X.
Want a bigger and great phone too... With far more Development.... Get the N5.
Yes, Development on the X is very limited. And you gotta watch... You get a Verizon, at&t or Republic wireless... You may not get root or be able to unlock the bootloader... So no custom recovery.
Up to you in the end. Not much else can be said here really. They are very evenly matched.

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[Q] Should I keep my HTC One X or move to the Moto G?

I've posted this on Reddit, but I want to know the opinion of the new Moto G community.
Here goes:
I have my very loved HTC One X (International) with me at the moment. I've been happy with it after a year and a half.
My phone has the HOX wifi fault. And the battery life barely gives me 2-3 hours screen on time. I've tried underclocking, flashed custom roms, kernels, etc. But the battery still doesn't last me within the day. Not even until noon.
But I've been reading pretty good stuff about the Moto G and it's hardcore battery life.
I know that somehow I'm downgrading. I'll miss the slightly larger screen though. Also, I don't care about the camera, because I have my Canon EOS M with me which I can copy pictures to the phone via USB OTG.
Would it be worth it if I sell my HOX and get that one? Or do you have a phone to recommend me? I'm planning to get a Pebble smartwatch too if ever.
P.S. I'll be able to sell my hox for like $220-ish here in the Philippines. My cousin is in the US at the moment for the holiday season. So I have my way to get that phone.
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monchee said:
Would it be worth it if I sell my HOX and get that one? Or do you have a phone to recommend me?
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Get a Moto G, it's really good.
Before I bought the Moto g I had the opportunity to buy a used One X. Same price I thought "get the newer Google Device".. Now having the moto g I am very happy with that! Get the Moto g.
The only thing that isn't good is the cam..
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Zurko said:
Before I bought the Moto g I had the opportunity to buy a used One X. Same price I thought "get the newer Google Device".. Now having the moto g I am very happy with that! Get the Moto g.
The only thing that isn't good is the cam..
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Few day's after getting Moto G, I got as gift Sony Xperia Z1, and as I prefer Moto G, the Z1 is still in box and I think I will not use it (too big, too heavy etc) at all, but as it's a gift, I also can't sell it.
If you cant sell it, give it as a gift to me, i will sell it and give you 40% of the price
Thanks for the tips! I'll be selling my HOX soon. Hopefully before Christmas.
Only phone I recommend over the moto g is the nexus 5
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Hi. The moto g is the way to go so far the battery experience is much better than the nexus 4 the phone I used have and the nexus 4 is a beauty. 50 gigas in Google drive and I have run all the apps that I did in my nexus excepting a couple like gravity box and touch control (gravity box works OK in 4.3 but it doesn't in 4.4.2) the others work flawlessly. I have no experience with pebble but I have a sony smartwatch 2 and it works nicely with the moto g. So my advice based on my experience get the moto g. Besides those kind guys who are developing are working hard to allows to have those tweaks we love.
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sorry to bring up an old thread but to the op
How are you finding the Moto G in relation to the one X?
My one x has the wifi fault and a horrid battery life and the black screen of death and so I definately need a new device until upgrade time
Would you recommend a Moto G?
Thanks
enrique097 said:
Hi. The moto g is the way to go so far the battery experience is much better than the nexus 4 the phone I used have and the nexus 4 is a beauty. 50 gigas in Google drive and I have run all the apps that I did in my nexus excepting a couple like gravity box and touch control (gravity box works OK in 4.3 but it doesn't in 4.4.2) the others work flawlessly. I have no experience with pebble but I have a sony smartwatch 2 and it works nicely with the moto g. So my advice based on my experience get the moto g. Besides those kind guys who are developing are working hard to allows to have those tweaks we love.
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Do you know there are two versions of gravitybox, one for jellybean and one for kitkat
Yadash said:
sorry to bring up an old thread but to the op
How are you finding the Moto G in relation to the one X?
My one x has the wifi fault and a horrid battery life and the black screen of death and so I definately need a new device until upgrade time
Would you recommend a Moto G?
Thanks
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I also have the wifi fault with my HOX, and battery life was very terrible. I had to do lots of tweaks that compromises the performance of the phone to get more juice, but still has bad battery life.
I'm glad that I was able to sell my HOX for $220+ here in the Philippines, and got myself the Moto G plus a shell that my cousin will be bringing home from the US. Can't wait to get it!
I wasn't able to buy me a Pebble though. The $89 sale at Best Buy was done. Although They announced the Pebble Steel which IMO looks great and I'll try to save for that instead.
I hope I didn't make a bad choice. Battery life is really on my priority list, that's why I didn't try to save up for the Nexus 5.
I really really can't wait!
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I got the Moto G after my One X stopped working. My research suggested that the One X, Nexus 4 and the Moto G were quite similar. In practise, it was similar to the One X, the differences that I've noticed:
The screen size is slightly smaller but not by much. You have quite large bezzels at the top and bottom - there is less screen space because there are no hardware buttons at the bottom as there were on the One X which I find annoying.
It seems to be a bit slower than the One X. Transitioning between apps can be a bit delayed at times.
The camera is significantly worse, but I prefer the camera app.
Battery life may be a bit better (I'm not sure to be honest). However, this may be because I am comparing to a one+ year old phone, and I had a problem with the wifi draining battery (but only with a particular router).
I also switched to CyanogenMod eventually, so the comparison may be slightly inaccurate.
For this price (and anything significantly higher), I would definitely recommend the phone.

[Q] Should I buy a Nexus 5 or Wait and get Moto X+1

I would like to wait for the Moto X+1 but fear that my carrier will not get it (It never got the original moto x). Yes I know they have very similar specs but I have a big gripe with the N5's camera. It kinda sucks, I tried it out on my friends nexus 5 and didn't like it but I love everything else about about the nexus minus the speaker which I can live with. The moto x+1 is reported to have a 12 or 13 megapixel camera which is probbably gonna be a lot better but Idk if I can rely on my carrier.
You should post in the correct section.
Wakamatsu said:
You should post in the correct section.
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This is the correct section. He is asking if he should get the N5 or wait.
#StayParanoid
It may have been moved from general.
Anyway, we're not making the OP's mind up. Thats his job.
Sandman-007 said:
This is the correct section. He is asking if he should get the N5 or wait.
#StayParanoid
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This is the section the OP was moved to. And yes, I understood the question.
IMO the N6 will be out soon so you can get a new phone for the same price in a couple months. Also the other vendors undoubtedly will release something so it depends on what you want. This is a good phone and the new hardware isn't much faster than what we got yet and the only advantage would be a bigger screen.
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As a former moto x owner the moto x camera was actually inferior to nexus 5 camera, the advantage the moto has over the nexus is battery longevity. As for disadvantages the moto had was development, if you are a flasher by very cautious on any moto product, the moto boot loader is a pain and flashing ota's caused more hard bricks than I can shake a stick at, I'm not exaggerating at all. Just keep in mind if you're on either Verizon or AT&T keep away from the moto as you will not be able to unlock the bootloader.
Also the back on the moto x is made of inferior material and will crack and split , I had multiple hairline cracks and a chunk break of just below the volume buttons
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[Opinions] Wait for nexus 6 or get the new Moto X

I'm curious who all is gonna get either the new moto x, or wait on the nexus 6
to replace the n5?
I'm considering the X if Motorola surprises us with a 64gb model soon, but I'm just looking for some feedback.
IRX120 said:
I'm curious who all is gonna get either the new moto x, or wait on the nexus 6
to replace the n5?
I'm considering the X if Motorola surprises us with a 64gb model soon, but I'm just looking for some feedback.
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i never even considered THINKING about the moto x. im a nexus guy through and through. which is what i expect many nexus 5 users are.
Nexus 6 for me!
Nexus ftw!!
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IRX120 said:
I'm curious who all is gonna get either the new moto x, or wait on the nexus 6
to replace the n5?
I'm considering the X if Motorola surprises us with a 64gb model soon, but I'm just looking for some feedback.
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Nexus 6, unless the Moto X is cheaper with your phone plan.
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Nexus ftw!!
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Yeah I think I'll wait on the 6 after doing some more reading, its just that the new X does look kinda sexy. I just hope google decides to offer 64gb of storage as that's my deciding factor.
Probably neither
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Wait for N6 , if the rumors are true,N6>Moto X
While the X is an excellent device with great moto features, if it's anything like the original moto x... There will be very little Development for it. So if you like to flash roms and whatnot... I doubt the X would be for you.
Also, Verizon, AT&T and Republic wireless don't allow you to unlock the bootloader... Assuming it's the same as the original x again, so you won't be modifying it at all if you get one of those carriers phones.
If you don't care about flashing things, the X would be an excellent device.
KJ said:
While the X is an excellent device with great moto features, if it's anything like the original moto x... There will be very little Development for it. So if you like to flash roms and whatnot... I doubt the X would be for you.
Also, Verizon, AT&T and Republic wireless don't allow you to unlock the bootloader... Assuming it's the same as the original x again, so you won't be modifying it at all if you get one of those carriers phones.
If you don't care about flashing things, the X would be an excellent device.
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I never realized there wasnt much Dev for it, but I'm happy with an unlocked boot loader, paranoid android, and a good kernel, so I think I'm gonna wait till November for the new nexus then.
Thanks for the input peoples.
I am just thinking I don't think Motorola making the nexus 5 2014 edition because it's 2k display so I think lg making the new nexus. Probably the 5.9 inch nexus Motorola making .
iRimas said:
I am just thinking I don't think Motorola making the nexus 5 2014 edition because it's 2k display so I think lg making the new nexus. Probably the 5.9 inch nexus Motorola making .
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It is Motorola and it is called the Nexus X
So that mean Motorola making 2k display
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So that mean Motorola making 2k display
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No specs have been officially released
Nexus 6 or N6 or Nexus 5 2014 I don't care but a NEXUS!
The new moto x has a pathetic battery life stay away from it...
Get a z3 compact if battery is prime concern...endurance rating goes well beyond 100hrs for it...(nexus 5 has only 40hrs)
doctor_droid said:
The new moto x has a pathetic battery life stay away from it...
Get a z3 compact if battery is prime concern...endurance rating goes well beyond 100hrs for it...(nexus 5 has only 40hrs)
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On standby I barely get 12 hours with my 5, SOT is usually around 3-4. When I first got it back in march it lasted around 6-7 hours.
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On standby I barely get 12 hours with my 5, SOT is usually around 3-4. When I first got it back in march it lasted around 6-7 hours.
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Tuna or hammerhead?
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Tuna or hammerhead?
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Hammerhead
Yea if you ask Nexus 5 users on XDA high chance that you will find us wanting to get the new nexus over anything else. Moto X is tempting but not when you consider the price and the fact that some of its great features will be in L.

Thinking of buying this phone

Is it worth it? I currently have a Moto X... but i hear there are a lot of problems with these phones. is it true?
This phone is really good, as you said some users has random issues, but if you didn't get those this is the best phone.
But if you already have moto 2014, why you want to change?
iifuzz said:
Is it worth it?
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Yes, simple and big yes. It is very worth buying!
sjraman79 said:
This phone is really good, as you said some users has random issues, but if you didn't get those this is the best phone.
But if you already have moto 2014, why you want to change?
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I have the 1st gen moto X, not 2nd gen. and i have to switch from verizon to tmobile
iifuzz said:
I have the 1st gen moto X, not 2nd gen. and i have to switch from verizon to tmobile
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Got it. Yes this is the best phone with CM11 waiting for CM12
I would not consider buying a OPO when i can get a LG G3 for just 50 euros more here in Italy, but that's my 0.02€
DuckMcQUack said:
I would not consider buying a OPO when i can get a LG G3 for just 50 euros more here in Italy, but that's my 0.02€
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LG G3 has nothing on this phone in my opinion.
To OP. Get it, you won't regret it.
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iifuzz said:
Is it worth it? I currently have a Moto X... but i hear there are a lot of problems with these phones. is it true?
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You won't regret it. Best phone I've ever owned. :good:
The only problem I have with it is the looks.. It's a bit ugly, especially against the 2nd gen moto x
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I do not think you would be making a mistake buying the OPO. The possibly only issues you might have are regarding service and a yellow stripe near the bottom but I have read that there are easy work-abouts for that. The features, feel, OS, build quality, performance are all superb.I have had a Samsung S2, S4 and Moto G (2013) and I am thrilled to have this. Also the battery life is superb - now down to 10% with over 46 hours since last charge and screen time of 5h 15m, 45 minutes voice calls and nearly 19 hrs Wifi on.
You should get the OPO, hands down. Most of the issues people have had with the device aren't even relevent anymore, as they have been fixed in software updates months ago. And I'm pretty sure that stuff like the yellow line doesn't even appear in the hardware anymore, and was only apparent in the first couple months. So you can safely ignore those complaints.
If you're comparing the Moto X and the OPO, be aware that the OPO actually has slightly superior specs. But, you know, that's not the best thing about this phone.
The OPO's XDA development scene is, in my opinion, the best thing about this device. Soooo many important developers have adopted the OPO as their next device, like FranciscoFranco and AK. You will see a lot of pleasantly suprised people in the forums, saying things like, "I remember you from the Nexus 4!" and, ”Yay, xxxx is here!”. No other recent device has the same support. Hell, the Moto X forums are a barren wasteland.
If you get an OPO, be prepared to have a lot of fun on the XDA forums. I know I am.
It is worth it. I would buy again.
iifuzz said:
Is it worth it? I currently have a Moto X... but i hear there are a lot of problems with these phones. is it true?
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I have Moto X 2014 and I just purchased the Oneplus for one simple reason... Moto X camera is total garbage. I mean it's bad. So I am returning my Moto and I'll try this.

A random question ..

Is it worth buying lg g4 or s6 when you are waiting for nexus 5 (2015 edition)
Or shall i go for lg g3 ?
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eefo said:
Is it worth buying lg g4 or s6 when you are waiting for nexus 5 (2015 edition)
Or shall i go for lg g3 ?
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I'd wait. You've got a OnePlus One, and I can't imagine you (or anyone) being dissatisfied with its performance and requiring something that's "more". If you just want something new/different to play with, grab an LG G2; they're unbelievably cheap now, and still one hell of a phone. Or a 2013 Moto X, for when you don't want a big ol' slab flopping around in your pocket.
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I'd wait. You've got a OnePlus One, and I can't imagine you (or anyone) being dissatisfied with its performance and requiring something that's "more". If you just want something new/different to play with, grab an LG G2; they're unbelievably cheap now, and still one hell of a phone. Or a 2013 Moto X, for when you don't want a big ol' slab flopping around in your pocket.
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Well.. Tbh the specs oneplus one have, is almost like of a dream phone..
The only issue with it is its touch screen and not a lot roms to play with ?..
Even after the update its still here..
And plus its been 8 months I'm using it so.. You know life asks for a change [emoji14]
P.s I'm still gonna keep this phone with me as a back up
And
thanks for your suggestion
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@eefo,
Please remember that there is a thread designed specifically for this type of question. If you post there, you will avoid cluttering the forums more with extra threads.
Thanks!
eefo said:
Is it worth buying lg g4 or s6 when you are waiting for nexus 5 (2015 edition)
Or shall i go for lg g3 ?
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Hello, eefo.
XDA-Developers is a good place, to get help to buy a phone, but there's a famous thread, where there's a high chance, to get help from some members.
Here's the link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/general/general/slow-motion-phones-device-how-to-imo-t2998500
EDIT: Nookie has already mentioned the thread... Sorry, haven't seen your post.
But what your phone you want, depends on your preferences.
Features
Screen Size
Design
Price
User Interface
Specifications
anything else
What are your preferences?

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