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I think I've killed my phone. I have voided my warranty. Please help/comfort me!
The story so far...flashed stock ROM with ARHD, no problems everything fine. Broke screen in pocket while at work (fuzzy lines across screen), phoned htc to explain problem, they told me to send in for repair but said that the repair would not go ahead if any mods such as custom ROMS had been installed - I told the guy that a custom ROM had been installed (probably my biggest error!). Bought new lcd/digitizer combo from ebay (ukeasybuy), and installed following an online guide (I was very meticulous and followed the guide to the letter with great care). Initially seemed fine but then quickly started doing weird stuff on its own accord, not responding to button/screen touches, would have to press the power button twice to get it to play normal. Yesterday the phone threw a wobbly and crapped out, switched itself off. Tried many times to power on, eventually managed to get into 4ext recovery where I started a restore to earlier nandroid backup, phone switched itself off again after about 20secs through the restore process (battery at this time was at 57%). Now can't seem to power on at all (tried loads of times), no charge light when plugged in, seems bricked.
When installing a custom ROM if you brick your device does it happen instantly or is it something that can develop over time? Only that for a brief period after installation it seemed to be fine, I made sure I had flashed the correct firmware package for the ROM.
I have done some research, but stumped on what to do now...my only thought is that I do have gadget insurance through barclays but wonder if they will just refer me to HTC??
Your thoughts and advice greatly appreciated..
Xenon
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The turning off of the device itself can be a precautionary measure to protect itself. I'm guessing maybe the LCD was installed wrong and is causing a short within the board.
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I followed the iFixit guide to install the new screen/digitizer.
As I mentioned I was very careful to follow it carefully, the only extra thing I did was to add some double sided sticky pads inside to stick it back together again as the thin tape supplied was damaged and discarded when taking the phone apart.
Should I try and take the phone apart again and look for any mainboard damage and/or potential areas where shorts may have occurred?
What do you think about the insurance cover, is it worth a shot? what would be the best way to approach the subject?
Many thanks!
Xenon
Maybe you did install it correctly, but there could also be the possibility that the screen is defective. But i would suggest checking the main board for a short.
Good luck
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I have taken the device apart again, but no signs of any shorts / problems or anything suspicious. I don't want to spend anymore cash on a new screen without knowing its that that is causing the problem.
Perhaps its one for the scrap heap
talk to whoever supplied you with the screen and tell them you think the screen is defective. say you have installed it to the letter and it is giving you issues. any respectable ebay seller should be willing to hear you out at least. hope youve not left feedback already though as they may think your a chancer :/
Unfortunately feedback was left once I first turned on the phone and the screen lit up. I will give it a try but I won't keep my fingers crossed!
What about the gadget insurance that I have, is it worth trying to get the phone repaired or replaced through them, or will they just send me back to HTC because the phone is less than a year old?
So, there I was, eating dinner while my phone read me a book.* And suddenly, it stopped. Because my phone crashed. And the amount of a boot cycle it can get through before crashing has been decreasing ever since. A complicating factor: when I still thought it was possibly a software issue, I booted into recovery, and attempted to re-flash the OS (currently it's on 10.2.1). It crashed partway through the process.
On the off chance this was a humidity issue (and not having a lot of time to mess with it) I opened up the phone, removed battery, sim, sd and the small screws in the main body of the phone, and left it in a dry well ventillated place. Now it will get as far as the initial "samsung" splash screen the first time I've reinserted the battery, and won't boot at all beside that. (It's possible that the power button was behaving weirdly, but the phone's behavior was generally so erratic that I can't say that with confidence.) Also, sniffing at the keyboard there is ever so faint a smell of burnt electronics... maybe. Maybe just platicizers. (I've noticed a bit of
This is the same phone that had screen issues (assumed to be related to a small amount of water** though subsequent evidence suggested a loose connector as an alternative hypothesis) around the beginning of February. It's been fine ever since, discounting the occasional weird usb connectivity issues that seem to be common with this phone.
I'm pretty happy to take the phone apart, but other than a general decase everything and look for loose connectors or other obvious trouble, I'm not even sure where to begin. (Also, I have about twelve hours to put in an order if I want Amazon to send by a new phone by tomorrow. Which is kind of silly, but this is swiftly and impressively dead. And otherwise it'd be no phone until Tuesday, which wouldn't kill me, but which would annoy me mightily.)
Any thought regarding common problem areas for this phone? I'm hoping to be able to leave the lab early today, which should give me some hours of working time. Well set up for tools, always happy to have things to take apart.
* Text to speech is awesome, once you get used to the robo-voice.
** Really, not a lot - none of the moisure stickers showed anything, and I don't think it got into the main body of the phone.
The de-casing was fun, and yet there isn't an obviously damaged component. It was pronounced dead at 6:20 yesterday evening.
R.I.p.
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tylik said:
So, there I was, eating dinner while my phone read me a book.* And suddenly, it stopped. Because my phone crashed. And the amount of a boot cycle it can get through before crashing has been decreasing ever since. A complicating factor: when I still thought it was possibly a software issue, I booted into recovery, and attempted to re-flash the OS (currently it's on 10.2.1). It crashed partway through the process.
On the off chance this was a humidity issue (and not having a lot of time to mess with it) I opened up the phone, removed battery, sim, sd and the small screws in the main body of the phone, and left it in a dry well ventillated place. Now it will get as far as the initial "samsung" splash screen the first time I've reinserted the battery, and won't boot at all beside that. (It's possible that the power button was behaving weirdly, but the phone's behavior was generally so erratic that I can't say that with confidence.) Also, sniffing at the keyboard there is ever so faint a smell of burnt electronics... maybe. Maybe just platicizers. (I've noticed a bit of
This is the same phone that had screen issues (assumed to be related to a small amount of water** though subsequent evidence suggested a loose connector as an alternative hypothesis) around the beginning of February. It's been fine ever since, discounting the occasional weird usb connectivity issues that seem to be common with this phone.
I'm pretty happy to take the phone apart, but other than a general decase everything and look for loose connectors or other obvious trouble, I'm not even sure where to begin. (Also, I have about twelve hours to put in an order if I want Amazon to send by a new phone by tomorrow. Which is kind of silly, but this is swiftly and impressively dead. And otherwise it'd be no phone until Tuesday, which wouldn't kill me, but which would annoy me mightily.)
Any thought regarding common problem areas for this phone? I'm hoping to be able to leave the lab early today, which should give me some hours of working time. Well set up for tools, always happy to have things to take apart.
* Text to speech is awesome, once you get used to the robo-voice.
** Really, not a lot - none of the moisure stickers showed anything, and I don't think it got into the main body of the phone.
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Get a new battery for it....had this issue before and placing new battery in it fixed my bootlooping and not being able to flash or get past samsung screen...the samsung batteries have an overcharge feature which has been known for causing errors such as this...
Hi everyone, I'm have an issue with my Nexus 5 and hoping someone here can tell me whats going on.
It started off with the sound always cutting out, and I have to press the back part near the "S" logo for it to return.
Eventually the screen would go black but I can clearly see a back light is on. Now not only does the sound cut out, and screen goes blank.
It has become very sluggish to reboot it. I hold the power button until the phone reboots "Google" logo appears and the android animation. Now during this time the phone will be so slow to the point of being crippled out and i have to reboot it again and again until it is normal speed returns. Often it will black out during this time.
I'm just trying to understand what is failing. I tried safe-mode and it still has the issue. I cleared cache, reset the phone everything, nothing appears to fix the issue at all.
edit: I forgot to add, when I'm on YT or listening to music or browsing the web, even though the screen is blank with just the back light on, the sound is still going (when it works). I get text/call notifications still during this time.
My Phone Details.
Nexus 5
Android version, 6.0.1 (MOB30Y)
no ROOT
No replies at all, I guess I may have to garbage the phone. Idk what else to do with this device to fix it.
Please don't throw it away.
You said that pushing at a specific spot fixes the problem (or improves the audio situation). This means that it's a hardware problem. I have disassembled it many times and I know the layout. Behind the 'S' of NEXUS is actually the motherboard cover, and under it are 2 connectors; one for the battery and one for an extra 'board' that is located right underneath the LG logo on your back cover. On that 'board' is your screen connector, and also the speaker rests on there, as well as the primary microphone, 3G and 4G antennas and of course the USB port. The connector for this extra board is actually located a bit to the left on the 'S' (when you look at your phone from the back, it's more below the camera).
Now I have to note this: While using my phone, I have experienced some UI hiccups. At random times (very rarely) everything would just freeze for a few minutes, though music would still play. The power button was useless apart from the hard reset, it was so badly stuck. This was a software problem, although it appeared MOST at one point when my motherboard was faulty. Since I got a new device, it happened again but only once. I'm not sure that this is what you are experiencing. If this is the case, then it's a software fault. Never happened on CM so you can give it a try.
But since it's probably a hardware problem, you can always check it out yourself. Obviously if you have warranty you are covered. Otherwise, you can try disassembling it, at least take the back cover and the motherboard cover off, it's ridiculously easy, there is a disassembly guide from ifixit (I think) online, just be careful not to break the clips of the back cover (xp talking). If you open it, keep away metal things and the first thing you do after you remove the motherboard cover is remove the battery (xp talking again). Obviously turn off the phone properly before you attempt anything. Everything is sensitive in there so be careful. What you should look for is the long connector that connects the extra board that is located at the bottom of the phone with the motherboard. That's what you are pushing so if it's not sitting correctly, then that's your problem.
Plus, everything in there, apart from the motherboard, is cheap and can be found on eBay so don't worry if something is broken (unless it's the motherboard, then no hope ).
I hope I helped.
Firstly thanks for the reply. I did manage to remove the back and get to the connector you were saying. I reseated this and noticed the phone was working much better. I noticed the following still.
When it starts acting slow/crippled pressing this connector fixes the issue. However once the screen goes black with just a backlight this method is rendered useless. Also sometimes when I plug in the wire to charge it will cripple and or go black. So I wondering if the board is shot as you suggested to order a new one, or is it the connector strip ?
Again thank you for the response.
It seems like this board is causing everything. First, check the connector on the motherboard. Make sure that nothing is wrong on the motherboard. Then you can remove the bottom black plastic thing that has the speaker on it and 2 antennas. Then, inspect this board. Check the connector of the display. There is only one big connector on it. This board is glued on the frame of the phone. You can remove it but do it carefully. Do it slowly so that you don't break it. First, remove the antennas extension cables from either this board or the motherboard, and then pull it out.
This board is definately responsible for the black screens and audio issues (unless your display is faulty, check its connector), but I'm not sure about the phone being sluggish. Since this board offers input to the motherboard, I suppose that it could be its fault.
Remove it and inspect everything. Then, if you want, you can order a new one. If you come across D820 and D821 models, I don't think that this part of the phone has anything to do with it so don't worry.
I will take a further look into this for sure, and report back. If you can provide which motherboard is required for my device, so I can also read into this and so that I may order it right-away. Is there any model number or something that indicates which board to order once it is open?
Thanks again!
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I will take a further look into this for sure, and report back. If you can provide which motherboard is required for my device, so I can also read into this and so that I may order it right-away. Is there any model number or something that indicates which board to order once it is open?
Thanks again!
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You don't need to change the motherboard, not to mention it's very expensive and hard to find. What you need to replace is probably the flex cable that goes below the battery. For example this.
This is not model specific, you can use it with all available Nexus 5 models (D820/D821, 16/32GB) so it doesn't matter what device you have.
FYI, if you think that you should replace your motherboard (you probably shouldn't), you need to take into account the storage (16/32GB) and the network differences (D820 or D821, the only difference is about the 4G networking, the american version has some bands enabled and some others disabled, and vice versa)
Okay, I just ordered the replacement flex cable. It is going to take about a month before it arrives from HK , I hope it fixes the issues. I will respond to this post once it is here and installed. Thanks again.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/271660361300?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
omega59 said:
Okay, I just ordered the replacement flex cable. It is going to take about a month before it arrives from HK , I hope it fixes the issues. I will respond to this post once it is here and installed. Thanks again.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/271660361300?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
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in the meantime, pray it isn´t a motherboard issue, the conector can go bad and lose a few solder joints
I have exactly the same problem... I unmounted motherboard and clean everything but didn't help to much... did you find any solution ??
Siamer no solution just waiting for my delivery of the part. However it is getting worse with the blackscreens and crippled lag.
omega59 said:
Siamer no solution just waiting for my delivery of the part. However it is getting worse with the blackscreens and crippled lag.
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my is the same. sometimes is working for few hours without any problems and than starting again, on the biggining it was power button problem but not I don't even touch that button (I use vol button to turn on) and sometimes screen getting black (with backlight on) and can't do anything so have to reboot... it's so anoying! Hope that parts will fix it, please let me know if you will find some solution. Today I will open phone and clean all connections etc...
Thanks,
siamer
I believe the part may fix it. I noticed if i run my finger along the strip the phone may uncripple itself or just turn black all together. I'm hoping it fixes it. I will report asap but this HK shipping is so slow it will be a month. Also there is no tracking
ATM i'am just trying to becareful with it trying not to trigger the issue. I just did an OTA update using FlashFire (6.0.1 (MOB31E) i wish v.7 will be available for my Nexus 5 ha ha!
Also if the Nexus 7p arrives I may just buy it to replace this Nexus5.
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I believe the part may fix it. I noticed if i run my finger along the strip the phone may uncripple itself or just turn black all together. I'm hoping it fixes it. I will report asap but this HK shipping is so slow it will be a month. Also there is no tracking
ATM i'am just trying to becareful with it trying not to trigger the issue. I just did an OTA update using FlashFire (6.0.1 (MOB31E) i wish v.7 will be available for my Nexus 5 ha ha!
Also if the Nexus 7p arrives I may just buy it to replace this Nexus5.
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Hi Omega59.
Today I bought air compressed can(name: air dust) and open my nexus 5 as much as I could. I clean everything, every connector, every cable etc. and last few hours is working fine... even power button is working ok. I will let you know in next few hours how it will be, hope will be still ok
Good luck!
siamer
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there is still same problem, working better than before, black screen not showing so often but still showing... I think tomorrow I will order oneplus3... Would be nice wait to see new nexus but how... :/
Yeah I'm not sure when the Nexus 7p will arrive, they not even advertised much. I will assume next year?
OnePlus 3 looks nice, but compared to Galaxy 7 it's a bit better slightly. You should check out comparison charts
Maybe they are making a OnePlus 4 soon.
oneplus 3 already ordered. I don't like samsung. I would say nexus "7p" or "pixel xl" will be launch october as always prabaly 4th of october - leaks saing that... next oneplus will be launch around july next year as I know. the only phone that I was thinking about was oneplus, htc10 or new nexus but can't wait to see nexus...
today by excident I broke screen in my nexus 5, got a little bit angry
Regards,
siamer
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Siamer no solution just waiting for my delivery of the part. However it is getting worse with the blackscreens and crippled lag.
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You probably don't want to hear this, but if it's getting worse, it's probably because of the pressure you apply to it, you make it worse. Be careful when you apply pressure around the motherboard since it's very sensitive. You REALLY don't want to break the motherboard. So if you find yourself pushing on the motherboard too often, you might want to leave it and wait for the replacement part so you won't ruin it.
Waiting for your news...
My part arrived yesterday. I put it in was pretty easy, however the first attempt i had to redo the top connector bc it was still black screen and no audio. After I disconnected the top connector ran some alcohol over it, re-put the top part things are working okay.
Just a note, the little USB connector (charger slot) seems to be very tight compared to the old one. Maybe bc it's new and not as worn down. But even just to put the wire in, requires more of a push, same with removing it.
I will see how it goes before I can really say that was the issue. I will report after a few days about it.
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oneplus 3 already ordered. I don't like samsung. I would say nexus "7p" or "pixel xl" will be launch october as always prabaly 4th of october - leaks saing that... next oneplus will be launch around july next year as I know. the only phone that I was thinking about was oneplus, htc10 or new nexus but can't wait to see nexus...
today by excident I broke screen in my nexus 5, got a little bit angry
Regards,
siamer
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I don't think N7P will be out this year, they have not advertised anything and we are almost in Oct. Right now they are all rumors.
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My part arrived yesterday. I put it in was pretty easy, however the first attempt i had to redo the top connector bc it was still black screen and no audio. After I disconnected the top connector ran some alcohol over it, re-put the top part things are working okay.
Just a note, the little USB connector (charger slot) seems to be very tight compared to the old one. Maybe bc it's new and not as worn down. But even just to put the wire in, requires more of a push, same with removing it.
I will see how it goes before I can really say that was the issue. I will report after a few days about it.
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When I changed my screen and housing it was difficult to slide the USB connector in too. Just make sure that everything is in place, there is a rubber think for the microphone, maybe that's what's in the way. Don't stress the connector too much.
Hi, my situation is; got a galaxy s7, the rear camera was bad, bought a new original one, stripped the phone down, fitted the camera, followed the tutorial (ifixit), put a new battery in at the same time, now rebuilt it all, (without the rear case on so can still easily take it apart again) and it wont turn on, wont go into safe mode, recovery mode, soft reset etc, tried every method, also via usb to my laptop, however it does charge, it comes up on the screen with the green battery icon and the LED light illuminates as if it is charging. Therefore, the screen is not damaged. And as far as i can see, all the connections are back joined onto the motherboard, it just wont boot up.
Also, if this makes any difference, I am running the Superman rom.
Any help would be massively appreciated as I have scowered so many websites searching for someone with a similar issue with a solution and I'm struggling, massively!
Are you sure you have connected the battery as required and no other circuit was touched?
Also, do you have the certainty this "new" battery works? I suggest you do the next 2 things:
1. Take this battery out and connect your old one. this way you can check if the new battery is faulty.
2. If doesn't work, even after inserting again the old battery, take your phone to a local repair center. (probably you messed something up).
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Hi, my situation is; got a galaxy s7, the rear camera was bad, bought a new original one, stripped the phone down, fitted the camera, followed the tutorial (ifixit), put a new battery in at the same time, now rebuilt it all, (without the rear case on so can still easily take it apart again) and it wont turn on, wont go into safe mode, recovery mode, soft reset etc, tried every method, also via usb to my laptop, however it does charge, it comes up on the screen with the green battery icon and the LED light illuminates as if it is charging. Therefore, the screen is not damaged. And as far as i can see, all the connections are back joined onto the motherboard, it just wont boot up.
Also, if this makes any difference, I am running the Superman rom.
Any help would be massively appreciated as I have scowered so many websites searching for someone with a similar issue with a solution and I'm struggling, massively!
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I'd start by reversing everything you did until it powers on again, if it still doesn't power on with the old camera module & old battery in then start looking at other things, i'd probably start with the battery though as it is a power issue
The new battery charges and it comes up on my screen showing the green battery image charging so it is being recognised. Tried the old battery and its the same situation. I genuinely believe I didnt accidently short anything and im confident everythinf is where it needs to be. Ive just booked in to go to the samsung shop this weekend so hopefully they manage to find skmething althpugh probably end up costing a daft amount. Thanks for the replies so far
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The new battery charges and it comes up on my screen showing the green battery image charging so it is being recognised. Tried the old battery and its the same situation. I genuinely believe I didnt accidently short anything and im confident everythinf is where it needs to be. Ive just booked in to go to the samsung shop this weekend so hopefully they manage to find skmething althpugh probably end up costing a daft amount. Thanks for the replies so far
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New camera module? Did you remove it to see if it is causing the problem?
I know there are different sensors, and if the wrong one is replaced the camera won't work, not heard about it stopping the phone booting but you never know
Just taken it to the local phone repair shop, lets hope they can find something with it. Keep you updated. Thanks so far.
To give some context, my S10e (Verizon SM-G970U) decided to boot loop out of nowhere. Since this happened, I have factory reset the phone, no success. I brought it to a local repair shop who said they couldn't fix it. Now I have flashed the phone with Odin and despite the phone being flashed it STILL is boot looping. At this point, I'm assuming something went wrong with the hardware but I don't even know where to start with that. If anyone has any suggestions I would greatly appreciate them.
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... it STILL is boot looping...
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If it is a hardware issue (which sounds likely), there's an old electronics trick you might try: Power it off, put it in the refridgerator awhile, take it back out and power it on. This has work'd for me with stereo components, for example, as well as a phone. It once revived a hard disk drive long enough for me to capture important data. Oh, but the phone this has brought back for me, an S10e BTW, works only while still cold and has issues with charging while its temperature is low. Still may be worth a try.
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If it is a hardware issue (which sounds likely), there's an old electronics trick you might try: Power it off, put it in the refridgerator awhile, take it back out and power it on. This has work'd for me with stereo components, for example, as well as a phone. It once revived a hard disk drive long enough for me to capture important data. Oh, but the phone this has brought back for me, an S10e BTW, works only while still cold and has issues with charging while its temperature is low. Still may be worth a try.
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Wow, I just did this and to my surprise it worked! Prior to this, I wasn't able to get past the Google sign in page on start up (on good attempts) but now I was able to get it all the way to the homescreen and even install some apps before my battery died. Any idea of what this could mean for the actual hardware? I.e. this means the battery needs to be replaced etc
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Wow, I just did this and to my surprise it worked! Prior to this, I wasn't able to get past the Google sign in page on start up (on good attempts) but now I was able to get it all the way to the homescreen and even install some apps before my battery died. Any idea of what this could mean for the actual hardware? I.e. this means the battery needs to be replaced etc
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Great; glad it work'd. Did you attempt to charge it while it was working? Mine actually took charging after warming up only a short time, once. Got it back all the way to 100% charged. But then it quit with dead black screen, and now revives only for a minute or two.
In the old days of individual transistors, we used to turn on a non-working electronic device and blast a shot of freeze spray on various components until the device started working; even with IC (integrated circuit) chips that have lots of transistors. This way, we knew which part needed replacement. But with today's phones, you replace the entire circuit board because the soldering is done by machines; it's too finely detail'd to replace one chip.
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Great; glad it work'd. Did you attempt to charge it while it was working? Mine actually took charging after warming up only a short time, once. Got it back all the way to 100% charged. But then it quit with dead black screen, and now revives only for a minute or two.
In the old days of individual transistors, we used to turn on a non-working electronic device and blast a shot of freeze spray on various components until the device started working; even with IC (integrated circuit) chips that have lots of transistors. This way, we knew which part needed replacement. But with today's phones, you replace the entire circuit board because the soldering is done by machines; it's too finely detail'd to replace one chip.
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I haven't tried charging the phone when it's on. Only when it's off and has returned to room temperature. Seems to me that about an hour in the fridge equals about 5 minutes of screen on time until the phone heats up again.
As for the internal component's you bring up a good point. Even if I were to determine what is causing the issue, I don't have the will/technical know how to buy the parts and do it myself. Outside of just replacing everything, in which I'd just buy a new phone haha.
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... I'd just buy a new phone ...
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That's what I did. Look'd at lots of possibilities, ended up buying another S10e.