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Hey All,
Today I decided to look into a larger capacity battery for my DZ NAM, and I took a look at my old Touch Pro 2...
The Battery fits quite well, its 1500mAh as opposed to the 1300 with the DZ.
I had to trim out the plastic on the TP2 battery, and then place it in upside down.
The cover pops up slightly after the battery is in, nothing that would bother you lots, in other words its not as flush as the original DZ battery.
I am going to use it to swap out between my 2 batteries.
Hope this helps, not bad for a free battery in my case
Great news !!
I have also a BA-S390 from my old Touch Pro 2... I'll try this tonight !
When you charge the battery inside the phone is it getting hotter or colder than the original DZ battery ?
I just got 2.5 days out of my stock Z battery and still had 60% left (granted didn't use it much).
I left my charger at work, and had a snow day yesterday.
I don't know what all the fuss about battery life is about.
Lennyuk said:
I just got 2.5 days out of my stock Z battery and still had 60% left (granted didn't use it much).
I left my charger at work, and had a snow day yesterday.
I don't know what all the fuss about battery life is about.
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Len,
To get 2.5 days out of a smartphone you must firstly not be overclocking at all, and secondly you must not have used it one bit.
2.5 days = total non usage
Even the iphone4 with its powersaving a4 chip does not get 2.5 days, unless you dont touch the beast.
And i like to generally use my phone
JD
JupiterDroid said:
Len,
To get 2.5 days out of a smartphone you must firstly not be overclocking at all, and secondly you must not have used it one bit.
2.5 days = total non usage
Even the iphone4 with its powersaving a4 chip does not get 2.5 days, unless you dont touch the beast.
And i like to generally use my phone
JD
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Actually I am overclocked to 1.4ghz and underclocked for screen off.
You are right, I hardly touched the phone at all, I did need it as an alarm twice in the time I was without a charger. (I was forced into this situation by leaving my charger at work)
But it shows that with no use the phone only loses 1% a day.
I generally lose about 2-4 percent an hour not in use. But my phone is sync'ed up to everything, lol
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Lennyuk said:
I just got 2.5 days out of my stock Z battery and still had 60% left (granted didn't use it much).
I left my charger at work, and had a snow day yesterday.
I don't know what all the fuss about battery life is about.
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Mine was down at 30% after exactly 48 hours.
Which is great, cause I did use it. Played Angry birds, sent sms and made a phonecall.
Lennyuk said:
I just got 2.5 days out of my stock Z battery and still had 60% left (granted didn't use it much).
I left my charger at work, and had a snow day yesterday.
I don't know what all the fuss about battery life is about.
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Who said anything about fuss?
I was pointing out that the TP2 battery works, and is larger capacity... I have a ton of reasons to have a second battery and would rather not spend an extra $40.
I travel lots... and I use my phone to watch tv on the plan.
Not sure about how hot the battery gets on charge, haven't used it much yet.
As for the original I get 2 days with moderate use.
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Who said anything about fuss?
I was pointing out that the TP2 battery works, and is larger capacity... I have a ton of reasons to have a second battery and would rather not spend an extra $40.
I travel lots... and I use my phone to watch tv on the plan.
Not sure about how hot the battery gets on charge, haven't used it much yet.
As for the original I get 2 days with moderate use.
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that comment wasn't aimed at you
Just that there have been lots of complaints about battery life on this phone (and the desire HD)...those people obviously never had a Desire as the battery life on the Z and HD are loads better than the desire ever was.
agreed, I find the stock battery tollerable on my DZ
@Blesseld: i also have a tp2 battery lying around, so if you happen to charge it, i would be really thankful for any reports about the charging behavior...
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@Blesseld: i also have a tp2 battery lying around, so if you happen to charge it, i would be really thankful for any reports about the charging behavior...
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I'll do a little test tonight/tomorrow and report back.
Cheers
I have descended from tp2pro aswell, and must admit that I have used my old tp2 battery from the second day I had a DZ. I must admit I have 'trimmed' it so that it doesn't cause any bulge on the metal flap covering the batt compartment, and I can say that even though the old batt is 6 months old it performs well enough to get me through the whole working day. I do make a lot of calls a day, I keep I-net connection constantly on, and I never switch Bluetooth off....
I realize its a heavy load on the battery but afterall I got the fone to do its job (calls, emails, driving, gps, etc).
The battery lasts well into from 8am to 7pm (with my heavy usage) but must say that whenever I'm driving I will have fone charging, regardless of its power level.
Nevertheless, I have a spare battery at hand ( original DZ one) should the worst happen.
FYI, my daily batt stats is usually as follows: display 30percent, voice calls 35 percent, and remaining 35 percent spread somewhat evenly amongst remaining series that have to run in the background.
Unfortunately though, I haven't got enough experience with the original DZ battery, to give you a comparison.... remember I used it only for a day or two, when I was still getting used to the whole new world of android and DZ
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Does anyone have experience with the 1800mAh Mugen battery from the TP2 in the DZ? I'm tempted to go for that assuming it fits...?
has anyone tried any of the aftermarket batteries, whether it be from a store, ebay, amazon, etc.
I ordered a 2200mah battery for my Infuse off ebay for $8.
I am going to try that out and see if I get anymore life out of it.
I would have gotten the 3500mah battery, but I use an otterbox and I dont think it would fit since it has the bigger cover to hold the bigger battery.
I work in a metal forging plant, so I have to use an otterbox for my work... so it is a must have if I want my phone to last.
I did order a 3500mah battery for my wifes Samsung Captivate.. She doesn't really use/need a case. I got that off ebay as well.. for about the same price.
I hope her phone lasts longer, because she can't even get a day out of it... hers is rooted running MIUI.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=20001828
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I got two 1900mah ones from "yourneeds4less" on Ebay. Totally as good as stock.
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I just got one of them 3500 batteries from amazon and its a solid battery, it wont fit on the case because i have the Otterbox case and cant use it with this, but you can definitely tell the difference in how long it lasts, and the case fits on the back of the phone great it has tabs and snaps right in. I use this battery when i am at home using wifi or alot of power on my phone and use the Samsung battery when i leave. Great investment for $10 but when you have the case on the phone it won't do you no good.
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I hope her phone lasts longer, because she can't even get a day out of it... hers is rooted running MIUI.
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Getting a larger battery will help, but there's a lot of ways you can manage your phone's power consumption to dramatically increase your battery's life.
Take a look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1510745
All I've done is use the power management program Juice Defender (on extreme setting, so data is off unless I toggle it on), not use a live wallpaper, and use a Gingerbread ROM (R3VELATION). With light to moderate use I get about a day of life, and if I took further steps I could even get more out of my battery than that.
EDIT: Whoops, you're the same poster as here, so it looks like the new larger capacity battery has solved your battery problems. I'll just leave this post up here anyway since it might help others.
Would the bigger battery cause it to overheat? or damage the phone in anyway?
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Would the bigger battery cause it to overheat? or damage the phone in anyway?
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Doubtful.
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Bought the two pack of 1800 batteries from Anker at Amazon. they work drivers. I no longer have my phone plugged in as I can just charge all of the batteries using their awesome wall charger and such one in when a battery dies.
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I also recommend to use dock charger like on ebay, i bought also 2200mAh batterys so i can charge them both and the free one can charge much faster since it's not in take-and-give cycle like when it's in phone usage.
onefabis said:
I also recommend to use dock charger like on ebay, i bought also 2200mAh batterys so i can charge them both and the free one can charge much faster since it's not in take-and-give cycle like when it's in phone usage.
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Came in here to ask the same question about aftermarket batteries...was thinking about buying the OEM one off ATT site for $30 because I don't see an official aftermarket battery and i'm not sure I want to buy a $10 aftermarket off of amazon or ebay because of stories I hear about cheap China made batteries exploding or damaging the phone in some way
I just placed an order for this.....
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-SGH-i...BMJ8/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1332809949&sr=8-2
The description doesn't say so but all the reviews say it comes with an OEM battery along with the charger...great deal for $30 in my opinion if it is all OEM
The thing I've read about these batteries is they don't have a shelf life. Meaning as soon as they are made they start to depreciate. Then they sell the old ones on e bay, amazon at reduced prices as they don't last as long as a freshly hot off the press battery.
I have never had any luck in buying a extra mha rating battery, having it last an extra long time. I got Chinese 2500mah it don't last that long, and then I went and got a high capacity gold 2430mah it only last as long as a 1750mah , rather I have no idea how long normal is, as I got my infuse at a pawn shop used, battery last about 5-6 hours, normal usage, but what is normal? What is the basis of comparison? I mostly use it for movies, and wifi and, angry birds which eat my battery up.
My theory is the more you pay the younger they are, a 4 dollar batter last less then a 10th dollar battery. But I don't have the monies to buy every battery in all the price ranges to test and do all that techy stuff. To me it is just a grip shoot. Hit or miss.
mikied12
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All batteries age during use.
Aging factors are temperature and also voltage.
I think temperature is well known but I don't hear as many people talk about voltage.
Charging your phone to 100% and leaving it on the charger encourages aging.
Some of the cheapo's are not as resistant to aging as the stock batteries. Common story is they work fine for the first day or two and then start to noticeably lose capacity. I noticed that when I tried out the Fujei battery.
Adding to the whole mess as you alluded... evaluating battery life quantitatively is not an easy deal. My usage varies every day.
I get a rough feeling when my battery life is fading but it's subtle.
Battery Monitor Widget has a feature where it estimates your actual 100% battery capacity in milli-Amp-hours (1750 = factory spec but actual will be different and will decrease over time as the battery ages). I think that if you use BMW and allow your phone an uninterrupted charge from low voltage like 20% up to 100% (without using the phone during that period), then it will develop a pretty good estimate of your battery 100% milli-amp-hour capacity (because our phone does have a charging current monitor which BMW accesses, but it does not have a battery discharge current monitor). That's a lot of work, but probably not a bad thing to do once a month to keep track of your capacity so you'd see a trend like 1750 one month, 1700 the next month, etc. I might start doing that some day..
3500mAh Battery
It's been a week, and my battery life is going UP. I plugged in today, and at 1931 hrs today, I still had 61% of my battery life left. I have not had any appreciable decline in battery life, nor reduction in longivity. With the stock battery, my phone is completely dead by 1715. I unplug daily at 0800. My battery life has easily doubled by purchasing a no-name battery from an Ebay seller. I'm quite impressed with it, and I spent $80 on an extended battery when I had my TP2.
Has anyone try those 2500 mah batteries from ebay? I am interest in buying those since they are only 4 USD each. What do you guys think?
Hi all.I really need to buy a big battery for my sensation and i found this battery .Anybody know something about this battery? Or i must buy a XE stock battery?I`m from Romania and there not found Anker battery and nobody deliver to Romania.Thanks!
If you are willing to take a risk, it could pay off or it could not. If you aren't able to get the Anker battery and don't want to take a risk, I would say go with the stock battery.
niuxed said:
If you are willing to take a risk, it could pay off or it could not. If you aren't able to get the Anker battery and don't want to take a risk, I would say go with the stock battery.
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I do not want to risk,ofcourse.I understand with there battery but i read that 1730 mAh battery from XE are good for our Sensations and has a longer daily life than 1520 mAh stock battery.Is true?And why i`ll risk with XE battery?
buju001 said:
I do not want to risk,ofcourse.I understand with there battery but i read that 1730 mAh battery from XE are good for our Sensations and has a longer daily life than 1520 mAh stock battery.Is true?And why i`ll risk with XE battery?
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You won't risk anything with the XE battery. I had misread that and thought you were going to buy the 1520mAh stock one instead of the XE.
niuxed said:
You won't risk anything with the XE battery. I had misread that and thought you were going to buy the 1520mAh stock one instead of the XE.
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No no.I have an normal Sensation with 1520mAh stock battery and i want to change his battery with 1730mAh battery from Sensation XE.But i want to know if deserve the change.
Up.
I bought my replacement battery from dx.com and seemingly hit a lucky strike: it's supposed to be 1700mah, yet measures over 2000 in Android Tuner. Cheap, free shipping, pretty much ideal except for the ~3 week shipping time. Doesn't get especially warm, works perfectly, and capacity has only gone up in he couple of months that I've had it.
http://dx.com/p/replacement-3-7v-1700mah-battery-pack-for-htc-sensation-z710e-evo-3d-93314
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Valantar said:
I bought my replacement battery from dx.com and seemingly hit a lucky strike: it's supposed to be 1700mah, yet measures over 2000 in Android Tuner. Cheap, free shipping, pretty much ideal except for the ~3 week shipping time. Doesn't get especially warm, works perfectly, and capacity has only gone up in he couple of months that I've had it.
http://dx.com/p/replacement-3-7v-1700mah-battery-pack-for-htc-sensation-z710e-evo-3d-93314
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Thanks for reply.But now i`m really confused what battery is better:XE battery 1730 or this replacemanet.
If you could, post some results. Like how much it lasts and display hours during a cycle.
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If you could, post some results. Like how much it lasts and display hours during a cycle.
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Hi.This results is after a low using of phone (5-7 min of facebook,few calls/sms and 5 min of gaming).Can see in the photo.I have perfect deep sleep but when i use phone battery drain a lot.Especially in games(5-10 min of gaming = 20-30% ).I have these settings:vipers rom v1.6.3 + faux kernel with intellidemand max cpu 1188,min 192,max screen off 486 and UV -50.
buju001 said:
Thanks for reply.But now i`m really confused what battery is better:XE battery 1730 or this replacemanet.
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I really don't know - I'd guess an original replacement has somewhat better quality, but I'm not really finding anything wrong with this battery. The only niggle I have is that remaining battery capacity changes on reboots - it might say I have 30% left before rebooting, and then 40% after (I just made those numbers up, but they're pretty representative). It always goes up, though, so I never have less battery remaining than what I'm seeing. I'm guessing this might have something to do with the battery not reporting its actual capacity to the phone (from reading other threads, only original HTC batteries seem to do this), which maybe means the system has to calculate remaining capacity from other factors(?). Still, it doesn't really affect anything.
I've attached a few screenshots I just took, showing some stats and my current usage (as you can see, the phone has been pretty much constantly in use today, mainly web browsing, but some text editing and other stuff too. Always multitasking, several tabs in the browser, and so on. Wifi on all the time, auto brightness, syncing 2 google accounts.). It's currently running at 1728MHz, Badass @performance (918/1188/1728MHz), with [email protected] 320MHz 3D, 266MHz 2D.
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I really don't know - I'd guess an original replacement has somewhat better quality, but I'm not really finding anything wrong with this battery. The only niggle I have is that remaining battery capacity changes on reboots - it might say I have 30% left before rebooting, and then 40% after (I just made those numbers up, but they're pretty representative). It always goes up, though, so I never have less battery remaining than what I'm seeing. I'm guessing this might have something to do with the battery not reporting its actual capacity to the phone (from reading other threads, only original HTC batteries seem to do this), which maybe means the system has to calculate remaining capacity from other factors(?). Still, it doesn't really affect anything.
I've attached a few screenshots I just took, showing some stats and my current usage (as you can see, the phone has been pretty much constantly in use today, mainly web browsing, but some text editing and other stuff too. Always multitasking, several tabs in the browser, and so on. Wifi on all the time, auto brightness, syncing 2 google accounts.). It's currently running at 1728MHz, Badass @performance (918/1188/1728MHz), with [email protected] 320MHz 3D, 266MHz 2D.
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Compared to my results,your is much better and now i`m sure will buy a repleacemant.I have the same "problem" with battery capacity on reboots and now i have original stock 1520mAh htc battery.So how you say,this not a problem.I search and i found original htc xe battery at 18$ with fast courier delivery.What you suggest,i must buy an original htc or this peisen battery?And thank you very much for very good explanation.
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Compared to my results,your is much better and now i`m sure will buy a repleacemant.I have the same "problem" with battery capacity on reboots and now i have original stock 1520mAh htc battery.So how you say,this not a problem.I search and i found original htc xe battery at 18$ with fast courier delivery.What you suggest,i must buy an original htc or this peisen battery?And thank you very much for very good explanation.
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Yeah, I had the same problem - after a year and a few months my battery never lasted a workday even with light use, gaming could drain 30-40% in a matter of minutes, and it got ridiculously hot. I also got random reboots all the time. I concluded that the cheapest fix to try would be a replacement battery, and this solved all my problems
If you can get the stock XE battery at $18 including shipping I'd say that's a bargain, and you should probably go for it. Still, the Pisen battery is ridiculously cheap (and shipping from DX is free, if slow). If you can afford it, i'd buy both, try them out, and keep the least good one as a spare. Never know when you need one
Valantar said:
Yeah, I had the same problem - after a year and a few months my battery never lasted a workday even with light use, gaming could drain 30-40% in a matter of minutes, and it got ridiculously hot. I also got random reboots all the time. I concluded that the cheapest fix to try would be a replacement battery, and this solved all my problems
If you can get the stock XE battery at $18 including shipping I'd say that's a bargain, and you should probably go for it. Still, the Pisen battery is ridiculously cheap (and shipping from DX is free, if slow). If you can afford it, i'd buy both, try them out, and keep the least good one as a spare. Never know when you need one
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Thanks for great reply.I will buy first a stock XE battery cause is an original repleacement and test it and after,maybe if not satisfied i`ll buy and a Peisen battery.Thanks again for help.
Hello Guys
today my phone i don't know whats happening
the battery be 50 and go 70 and then go 2 so i don't know whats happening should i replace battery or what
i install (Ampere) app and tell me the health of battery is good so i don't what i should do
I would replace the battery. Battery is cheap on ebay even they are likely to be faked. I replaced batteries both of my Nexus 4 with those potential fake one. The temperature sensor isn't working on one of them so I know it is faked. But it doesn't give me trouble so far. I bought three from three different sellers.
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I would replace the battery. Battery is cheap on ebay even they are likely to be faked. I replaced batteries both of my Nexus 4 with those potential fake one. The temperature sensor isn't working on one of them so I know it is faked. But it doesn't give me trouble so far. I bought three from three different sellers.
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it took too long 2 month and i dont know where i can buy it from i found these buyers
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-OEM-Goo...sh=item4b04ee657d:g:HS0AAOSwENxXlwHx#shpCntId
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Orig..._7&btsid=751f2f80-413b-4bbd-b32e-c20b339243ff
ahmedvip2008 said:
Hello Guys
today my phone i don't know whats happening
the battery be 50 and go 70 and then go 2 so i don't know whats happening should i replace battery or what
i install (Ampere) app and tell me the health of battery is good so i don't what i should do
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Hello,
I've got the SAME problem with my Nexus 4 this week.
I'll try to say what happened (and I didn't resolve this yet)
First of all, it is shuting down my N4 all the time. I need to keep it at charged.
I tried to change my battery with a friend (with N4 too) and the problem persists.
I tried to change our USB modules, without success.
At this phone everything is working alright, even with battery (so it isn't a battery problem).
I cannot charge my battery or calibrate it. I charged my battery at his N4 and put at my N4: "74% battery" (it was 100%).
My gauge do some crazy jumps. It's like "15%, 76%, 100%" and when i put it off "100%, 44%, 2%".
NOTE: I tried to calibrate several times.
It keeps shuting down at normal use.
This problem occurs -at the first time- when I was at Android 5.1.1 (Chroma ROM). I changed to Android 6.0.1 and it still not working.
At charger works very fine.
At "TWRP" it works fine too (don't shutdown)
I REALLY don't know what can I do.
Now, i'm will install a Stock Rom just for science.
I have this problem(random shutdown,random reboot,when plug in battery dance) too. 6 six month ago I changed battery because phone battery drained as ****,so I used my phone only when plugged in (battery wasn't charging,just keep charge) and one day I used my n4 too long without charging, so battery drains. n4 died till I changed battery.
Everything stock, android 5.1.1 LMY48T, still hoping for OTA updates.English isn't my mother language, so will be pleased if you check it
Now I think about buying new phone. As for me its to much change battery one more time. Or itsnt batterys' fault?
I got back the Nexus 4 from a relative because she got a new phone. Also a cousin had a nexus 4. The batteries are terrible. Its been over 3 years so this was expected. I'm hoping the new battery will give it respectable SOT. Right now it just randomly dies at 50% or higher. And I have to wait for it to really die before I can bring it back to life. Its got the RED LED of Death.
Got to say, its a beautiful phone still. Forgot how nice it was
i buy new battery now its work fine
ahmedvip2008 said:
i buy new battery now its work fine
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link pls
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Beware! The majority of batteries sold on ebay are fake! You can identify them by the look: their print on the label is not white, it's more like a dirty grey. Also they are smaller (1-3mm) in length and width. Also they lack a temperature sensor and constantly report a temperature of 22-23°C. A quick check with a hairdryer will reveal it. Don't install these fake ones. I did twice and both failed within less than 100 cycles. Runtime was poor and they were swollen so much they lifted away the back cover!
I just got a Nexus 4 that my mother was using and installed CM13 and now Lineage 14.1 for my father to use. I'm also facing these random shutdowns.
On my last charge, I charged to 100% without any problem and left the phone in standby for a day and a half which took it down to 89%. I then used it last night to give it some SOT and left it at 74%. Just before going to bed, I pressed the power button and nothing. With a long press the phone booted and reported the battery at 73%. Waking up this morning I expected to press the power button and find the phone on something like 67%. Once again the phone had shut down and when I booted, the battery was on 2% and shutdown itself down straight after boot.
If the battery performance is rubbish, I can accept that due to the age of the phone. What I cant accept is totally inaccurate battery reporting and shutdowns. :crying:
I replaced the battery of my Nexus 4 yesterday, purchased from AliExpress. I suppose it is a fake one. The battery was too big to fit into the enclosure. I had to force it to let it fell into place. Finally it fell into place and it was connected, the phone won't turn on. The phone has given only a red led of death for about 12 hours. Probably it means a battery failure. I don't think the cheap batteries are in good condition and I don't think they're safe either.
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I replaced the battery of my Nexus 4 yesterday, purchased from AliExpress. I suppose it is a fake one. The battery was too big to fit into the enclosure. I had to force it to let it fell into place. Finally it fell into place and it was connected, the phone won't turn on. The phone has given only a red led of death for about 12 hours. Probably it means a battery failure. I don't think the cheap batteries are in good condition and I don't think they're safe either.
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Agree, I got one from AlieExpress too. But that was not lasting even equal to my 3 years old battery. Had to complain at multiple places to get the refund but finally got it.
Nitin
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I think the best chance to get an original battery is to purchase a battery from spareslg.com. The price of the battery is a bit too high in my opinion: 22,60 euros at the moment. A second hand nexus 4 costs approximately 60 euros, 80 euros tops, in the Netherlands. I don't know how much a second hand nexus 4 costs in Turkey. Perhaps it's better to consider a second hand nexus 4 and use your old nexus 4 for spare parts. A known issue of the nexus 4 is that the digitizer will stop randomly and the glass at the front and back of the phone is fragile.
NBS92 said:
I think the best chance to get an original battery is to purchase a battery from spareslg.com. The price of the battery is a bit too high in my opinion: 22,60 euros at the moment. A second hand nexus 4 costs approximately 60 euros, 80 euros tops, in the Netherlands. I don't know how much a second hand nexus 4 costs in Turkey. Perhaps it's better to consider a second hand nexus 4 and use your old nexus 4 for spare parts. A known issue of the nexus 4 is that the digitizer will stop randomly and the glass at the front and back of the phone is fragile.
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Turkey is a terrible country everything is awful
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Turkey is a terrible country everything is awful
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Did you find a good battery or really original battery ?
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Did you find a good battery or really original battery ?
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no hıc bırsey bulamadım
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no hıc bırsey bulamadım
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i found a new battery 33 dollars on LG service center
I think most of us had heard that Moto Z has a erratic/bizarrre/high batery drain in one or another way.
For my case it's a broken battery and i think it affect entire battery lots but Moto never accept and recall its.
I will share my experience.
According to this topic https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Moto-Z/Moto-Z-extreme-battery-drain-after-7-1-1-update/td-p/3758100.
There is 100+ pages and numerous people affect by this issue around the world.
Me live Thailand. My Moto Z model is XT1650-03, Dual SIM.
I bought a second hand phone. It's come with Nougat 7.1.1
My previous phone is Xiaomi Mi4C that has a SOT around 3-4 hour [with 3000 mAh]
So when i got Moto Z. SOT is aound 3-4 hours. with 2600 mAh I think it normal. [My use is texting LINE, internet, on WIFI most of the time]
After 2 month I got update to Oreo.
I notice battery is drop fast than normal. I use better batery stat and waklock detector to nail down the cause.
But all is normal. Phone is almost in deep sleep. when use battery is drain aound 4-5%/Hr or more.
Then i start to google and found above topic and similar in another website.
Moto web moderator usuallly suggest these method
1. If happen after update please clear cache through Recovery
2. Do a baterry calibration [force restart then use turbo power supply to chardge till 100%, leave it overnight]
3. If above fail do a factory rest.
I try method 1. and fail
When use method 2 . It notice a weired battery percentage
- before force restart no matter % of battery when restart % will suddenly drop [e.g. 85-->45, 90-->2]
- this make me more curious
- after charge with turbo power adaptor to 100% and leave overnight. I try to force restart again. guess what the battery % is suddenly drop again .
- after try many time i come to conclude that "IT'S NOT A SOFTWARE. IT'S A HEARWARE ISSUE"
I go to Moto service center and tell them abou tthis battey drain.
They smile and said that "This happen frequenly. It's a battery defect"
My phone still under warranty so it's free.
FYI : if out of warranty cost is around 40$ [PS. In thailand] not too pricy for battey+labor cost [this phone is hardly to replace battery by yourself]
With new battery Moto Z is a monster in SOT. I got SOT 4 Hrs. with remain 45 % battery. With my usage i think 7-8 Hrs. is possible.
To sum up
Those who face a erratic/bizarrre/high batery drain.
Please try to do battery calibration first. But if you find suddenly drop in battery % after force restart. It's a broken battery.
Go to Moto service center ASAP.
No software update can fix this.
For 7.1.1 update that emerg this issue.
In my humble opinion i think no software can do damage to battery. In worst case, poor sotware will cuase huge waklock and baterry drain but not suddenly drop after restart.
It's maybe coincidence that this 7.1.1 update come out around the time that defect battery show the sign.
For further battery save up.
I found that in Oreo. without Root we can limit background activity.[this look like function in MIUI rom]
App that optimize for Oreo doesn't has this function.
So it's for old gen app that developer didn't update their code.
[e.g. LINE , XDA labs, Pinterest, Google play service, Google pay store]
Visit these website for How to with picture
http://visihow.com/Manage_Battery_Performance_on_Android_Oreo
https://www.howtogeek.com/324566/how-to-limit-background-activity-for-apps-in-android-oreo/
doujinsinner said:
I think most of us had heard that Moto Z has a erratic/bizarrre/high batery drain in one or another way.
For my case it's a broken battery and i think it affect entire battery lots but Moto never accept and recall its.
I will share my experience.
According to this topic https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Moto-Z/Moto-Z-extreme-battery-drain-after-7-1-1-update/td-p/3758100.
There is 100+ pages and numerous people affect by this issue around the world.
Me live Thailand. My Moto Z model is XT1650-03, Dual SIM.
I bought a second hand phone. It's come with Nougat 7.1.1
My previous phone is Xiaomi Mi4C that has a SOT around 3-4 hour [with 3000 mAh]
So when i got Moto Z. SOT is aound 3-4 hours. with 2600 mAh I think it normal. [My use is texting LINE, internet, on WIFI most of the time]
After 2 month I got update to Oreo.
I notice battery is drop fast than normal. I use better batery stat and waklock detector to nail down the cause.
But all is normal. Phone is almost in deep sleep. when use battery is drain aound 4-5%/Hr or more.
Then i start to google and found above topic and similar in another website.
Moto web moderator usuallly suggest these method
1. If happen after update please clear cache through Recovery
2. Do a baterry calibration [force restart then use turbo power supply to chardge till 100%, leave it overnight]
3. If above fail do a factory rest.
I try method 1. and fail
When use method 2 . It notice a weired battery percentage
- before force restart no matter % of battery when restart % will suddenly drop [e.g. 85-->45, 90-->2]
- this make me more curious
- after charge with turbo power adaptor to 100% and leave overnight. I try to force restart again. guess what the battery % is suddenly drop again .
- after try many time i come to conclude that "IT'S NOT A SOFTWARE. IT'S A HEARWARE ISSUE"
I go to Moto service center and tell them abou tthis battey drain.
They smile and said that "This happen frequenly. It's a battery defect"
My phone still under warranty so it's free.
FYI : if out of warranty cost is around 40$ [PS. In thailand] not too pricy for battey+labor cost [this phone is hardly to replace battery by yourself]
With new battery Moto Z is a monster in SOT. I got SOT 4 Hrs. with remain 45 % battery. With my usage i think 7-8 Hrs. is possible.
To sum up
Those who face a erratic/bizarrre/high batery drain.
Please try to do battery calibration first. But if you find suddenly drop in battery % after force restart. It's a broken battery.
Go to Moto service center ASAP.
No software update can fix this.
For 7.1.1 update that emerg this issue.
In my humble opinion i think no software can do damage to battery. In worst case, poor sotware will cuase huge waklock and baterry drain but not suddenly drop after restart.
It's maybe coincidence that this 7.1.1 update come out around the time that defect battery show the sign.
For further battery save up.
I found that in Oreo. without Root we can limit background activity.[this look like function in MIUI rom]
App that optimize for Oreo doesn't has this function.
So it's for old gen app that developer didn't update their code.
[e.g. LINE , XDA labs, Pinterest, Google play service, Google pay store]
Visit these website for How to with picture
http://visihow.com/Manage_Battery_Performance_on_Android_Oreo
https://www.howtogeek.com/324566/how-to-limit-background-activity-for-apps-in-android-oreo/
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I just got a moto z and today I am seeing this exact same problem. i'm playing around with it now doing some other ways of calibrating. I am on Oreo and wondering if Nougat would be more battery friendly on these phones ?
Android version doesn't relate with this problem.
If you familiar with ADB. You can install Better battery stat and Wakelock detector without root. To identify app and process that consume battery.
For easy way. Android battery stat in setting is informative enough to this task.
You can summary all battery % lost and compare to your remaining battery. If your battery isn't broke. This value should be linear.
In my case there is missing % more than 20%
doujinsinner said:
Android version doesn't relate with this problem.
If you familiar with ADB. You can install Better battery stat and Wakelock detector without root. To identify app and process that consume battery.
For easy way. Android battery stat in setting is informative enough to this task.
You can summary all battery % lost and compare to your remaining battery. If your battery isn't broke. This value should be linear.
In my case there is missing % more than 20%
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Yeah I am familiar with adb. But my problem is that, at this time anyhow, is that when I reboot I lose like 30% battery or something stupid which makes me think software. But after doing alot more reading at this point it would seem like it's a defective battery. That would be a first for me to have an android phone with a defective battery. So that's why at this point I'm just thinking software for the most part. Mainly cause i bricked my device when I tried to root it with oreo. I'm trying to downgrade now which I have done but now having modem issues.
I have a moto z too and i did the force restart and then the battery dropped from 38 to 6% i did it again and got up to 15 y did it again and stays in 6%, did it again and stays on six then un five and down, always with my usage, i got 3:40 at max of sot, and about 2 minutes-3, per % of battery, do you think is software or i shoud go to replace the battery
CrazyboyxD said:
I have a moto z too and i did the force restart and then the battery dropped from 38 to 6% i did it again and got up to 15 y did it again and stays in 6%, did it again and stays on six then un five and down, always with my usage, i got 3:40 at max of sot, and about 2 minutes-3, per % of battery, do you think is software or i shoud go to replace the battery
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You have situation similar to me.
If you have warranty or financial isn't issue, don't hesitate to try replace battery.
You know this is actually quite funny to me. I had three replacement phones for this issue. I contacted Motorola and complained like crazy they charged me holding fees and crap till they got my defective model. Weirdest thing, every model had different battery life and performance. One model actually fried chargers one by one. So irritating, I thought Motorola was a good company. I told them, biggest issue I've had with phones in the past was them cracking, so I bought a shatter proof phone. Well whats the point of having a shatter proof display if I go through three of them in a year for faulty batteries?
Also it took about my 10th phone call for me to be transferred to someone that actually spoke proper English........
They couldn't even pronounce my name. My name is Adam....... (Aedum) lol
Called a supervisor, still couldn't pronounce my name...
After begging to speak to a manager for like an hr strait and being transferred to more people who could not speak proper English.
The last guy said ill transfer you to my manager in another building. The second he answered the phone I asked if they were even in the same country, nope lol. Regardless, it was weird, once I had made it to this person he was offering to send me free things, did the last phone replacement without a holding fee, etc.
Why am I still ranting.........
Point is, I used to love Motorola.
I do not anymore for this reason specifically lol.
Edit: Never guess what happened, my current Moto z force stopped charging.
I am never buying a Moto phone again.
4 out of 4 Motorola phones.....
Gonna take it apart now lol
I'm doubting my battery now as well. I've even factory reset and still have a big issue.
Standby time is ok, but with the screen on, my battery level drops like a rock. Almost 1% per minute. So I'd be lucky to get about an hour and a half or so on a full charge. (Of screen time) And that's not gaming or anything else battery intensive. Mostly just XDA Labs.
So after factory resetting and seeing no change, I'm convinced my battery itself is messed up. Luckily I have the Turbo power battery mod, so I can get through a day. But I'll be phone shopping soon.
Not going to be bitter, will probably get a Z3. Too many mods to buy anything else. Plus I've had the Moto X, N6, Moto Z and my wife has Z2 Play, so I'm a Moto fan! All good phones. This battery thing is my first issue.
I've had problems with my battery too. After 5 or 6 hours of a complete recharge, a new charge was needed. So I've bought a new one on Ebay and received yesterday.
Now, after replacement, my Moto Z is working absolutely fine, just like when was brand new. Today I've used some mods. Here in Brazil we have a digital TV mod with battery, but the recharging was off to test the new battery. Also play music for almost 2 hours with Moto Speaker, that doesn't have a internal battery.
And now, 11 hours after last charging there's 36% remaining, with 6 hours estimated.
So I really recommend replace the battery.
@Tlucent could you say me further information about the battery replacement?
I bought a Moto Z from LightInTheBox and I don't received yet, but I read some comments about this issue. When and if I have this issue I need know how resolve.
What the model/reference of battery do you bought?
The replacement is easy and trusted?
Thanks
Motorola worst support
I've got the same problem and sent my phone for repair after contact with Moto support and unsuccessful re-calibration of the battery. Few days later I got a reply that my phone wouldn't be repaired according to the warranty conditions because the screen glass has a small crack and this is the ostensible reason for the battery failure.
So all I have to say is GOOD BUY MOTOROLA!
Finally I have sent my motoZ for battery replacement last month.
It is working well now, battery can survive around half day (~10hrs) for my usage,
or ~5hrs in heavy use (nearly nonstop web, IM text, videos)
However since it is already out of warranty, it cost 60 bucks from local dealer.
If you find your phone (any) battery drain, standby and usage hrs shortened,
and, battery level dropped (alot) after power off then On,
that means the battery is already EOL (end-of-life).
The so-called recalilbate is usless !
Do factory-reset is meaningless !!!
That was the worst battery I have even seen, it just last for a year.
Some said the battery is from LG, holy ~
On ebay you can find the battery (GV30) for around $10,
but I do not recommend replace it yourselves.
Here are some tips to prolong Li-ion battery.
1. charge it whenever you can!
2. do not use up till 0% if possible, try charge it before it reach 40%
3. try charge it till 80% then unplug charger, this will extend its cycle life by not to wear out its recharge cycle too soon!
4. try keep your phone cool, high temperature will help chemical form, means shorten its life.
The problem is the battery cell's chemistry. it is crap. I've used my Z for about 9 months and now it is less than half capacity according to Accubattery and power can be cut if I do something intensive below 50%. Same thing had happened to my old midrange Moto G4. Stay away from Motorola phones.
I've recently had more than enough out of my Z2 play. Since day one it's lagged and froze often, even after wipes, resets and even reflashing the factory firmware. I think I just got a lemon, but didn't get it in before warranty expired.
My Z has been in a drawer all this time, with a fried battery. It even was shutting down at about 60 percent, which took about 30 minutes of screen time to get to from 100. So definitely my battery was no good.
So, instead of living with the awful Z2 I got, and let the warranty expire on, I'm getting my Z's battery replaced and the camera glass replaced. (it was scratched up bad.) For not much at all. 7 bucks for the battery and glass. Lol
I'm excited to get back on my Z! It was better than the Z2 anyway, even with none of my Z2 issues. My fingers are crossed that my battery life will go back to how it was when I first got my Z. That and the Turbo Power mod are all the battery life I need. :good:
same battery issue with my moto z ( one Yr old) , finally I have sent my moto Z for battery replacement yesterday ..
Darth said:
I've recently had more than enough out of my Z2 play. Since day one it's lagged and froze often, even after wipes, resets and even reflashing the factory firmware. I think I just got a lemon, but didn't get it in before warranty expired.
My Z has been in a drawer all this time, with a fried battery. It even was shutting down at about 60 percent, which took about 30 minutes of screen time to get to from 100. So definitely my battery was no good.
So, instead of living with the awful Z2 I got, and let the warranty expire on, I'm getting my Z's battery replaced and the camera glass replaced. (it was scratched up bad.) For not much at all. 7 bucks for the battery and glass. Lol
I'm excited to get back on my Z! It was better than the Z2 anyway, even with none of my Z2 issues. My fingers are crossed that my battery life will go back to how it was when I first got my Z. That and the Turbo Power mod are all the battery life I need. :good:
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where did you get the battery and glass for 7$ from?
I do not recommend more motorola among my friends and family
I have a Motorola Moto Maxx with about 3 years in use and its battery still works, with less capacity, but it does.
And I have a Moto Z XT1650-3, this with 11 months in use started with the known problem of the battery, component trash!
I have the Moto mod battery, and so I used it for about two more weeks since the internal battery problem started.
The internal battery 100% charge, and restart the device and the battery is already 30%, I connect it again to load and in a few minutes reaches 100% and we know what happens if I disconnect and restart.
The moto mod gives some autonomy, but once it runs out, or the internal battery has been completely discharged, there is no way that the device turns on again, until the charger is connected.
So, knowing that Lenovo does not sell this battery, I decided to take the risk of separating the screen to extract the damaged battery.
And already installed the generic battery that I bought (with the motorola logos) the device is functional again, the load remains decent, and ... only a small problem XD the generic battery is fatter than the original, so my screen in the lower area of the touch remains detached around almost 1 mm, and this is risky because in a bad move something can get stuck and detach the screen.
These days I will buy a second battery, but genuine, removal of damaged equipment, says the seller.
I leave you images of what the fake motorola battery looks like and the original battery photo.
Regards!
Same bad health battery here! Moto Z doing crazy things with the battery percentage.
I need to know if the brand new batteries are still erratic after some months or Motorola knows the issue and provides good-health ones? Is it worth it?
for those who replaced the battery, did they use original or alternative battery?
tsoump said:
Same bad health battery here! Moto Z doing crazy things with the battery percentage.
I need to know if the brand new batteries are still erratic after some months or Motorola knows the issue and provides good-health ones? Is it worth it?
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My replace original battery from Moto service center die in 6 month