Alright. Apparently this specific phone has weird or messed up POGO pins. And I really need some help.
I've searched but can't find anyone with this issue.
There are supposed to be 5 pins total (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1611116). On my phone, there are 5 positions, but the first (GND) is blocked off by the outer plastic of the case. I picked away the plastic to find no pin present, just a plastic stub from within the phone. And while I will (next week) be taking the phone apart to do multiple things (replace broken digitizer, & upgrade battery, replace back-door), surely someone knows something about this?
I ordered a Seidio Innocell case to further enhance my battery life. It is the version marked to support the AT&T variant. However it does not work. I would think that the GND connection is unnecessary to charge the battery (unsafely), so I can only assume that the 4 pins available are not as identified with other variants. Perhaps the 1st pin is dislodged by some means, though that does not explain the plastic covering it... Other than perhaps a manufacturer defect that I never noticed?
Can anyone assist?
Like I said I'll be opening it up soon, so I'll probably modify the back door to support this Innocell casing anyway. So any information would be useful as to what might be going wrong here.
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I can confirm after picking away more plastic, that there IS indeed the 1st pin (you can see it in attached image if you look closely), and that my phone was poorly manufactured. The pin is shoved beneath the casing due to lack of clearance when it was assembled. No wonder. Charging still does not work, so I'm wondering if there is a way I can manually test these two pins (#1 & #5) for charging capabilities? 5v battery and two wires perhaps?
This belongs in the q&a section, not sure why you've posted it here?
Where did you buy the phone?
Sent from my Evita.
timmaaa said:
This belongs in the q&a section, not sure why you've posted it here?
Where did you buy the phone?
Sent from my Evita.
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My apologies, first time posting. I read the posting stickies, and did not think to post it in the appropriate location.
This phone was purchased from Walmart, with the related AT&T contract. One month before they released the OneX+, what luck.
My battery is at post office now, should arrive later today. I'll install and update my post, though I believe I'll be solving my own problem & answering my own question soon enough. Completion sake, anyways. The pins do work, i sent voltage through it using a multimeter, and android notified me I was using an invalid charging apparatus (incorrect mwa i guess? was @1.5v). SO that's good news I suppose.
Wow, I've never seen a new Evita with such a serious manufacturing defect like that. You should swap it out under warranty.
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Wow, I've never seen a new Evita with such a serious manufacturing defect like that. You should swap it out under warranty.
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Haha i know right. I just opened it up, all 5 pins are available on the motherboard's bottom connector(radio/pogo/buttonLEDs). But indeed, they did not properly cut the 1st pin's plastic. Nor did they insert the actual pogo pin on it, which are both back-door flaws. Back-door assembly line failure - lol Sounds dirty.
Well all is well now. I used a HOX+ back-door instead, cause the red on black looks nice. SO I didn't have to rig my own graphite onto the plastic. All 5 pins working perfectly. Attached some photos so you guys can see what I mean. Take care all, this issue is now resolved
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A bit of the black part of the antenna that is circled in the picture kind of broke off when i was disassembling my phone. I think this is the thing that controls your phone signal. If it is, does anyone know if this will stop my signal completely and mean I have to buy a new antenna? I have no way of checking because I broke the cable connecting the antenna to the main board (don't ask) and the replacement doesn't arrive for a while. (The picture attached isn't the picture of my exact phone. It's from google images. But its the same model) The other 4 thingies are still in tact but the thing circled is broken off.
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A bit of the black part of the antenna that is circled in the picture kind of broke off when i was disassembling my phone. I think this is the thing that controls your phone signal. If it is, does anyone know if this will stop my signal completely and mean I have to buy a new antenna? I have no way of checking because I broke the cable connecting the antenna to the main board (don't ask) and the replacement doesn't arrive for a while. (The picture attached isn't the picture of my exact phone. It's from google images. But its the same model) The other 4 thingies are still in tact but the thing circled is broken off.
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anyone?
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anyone?
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This question cannot be answered without testing. Try it, if it works, the answer is no, if not, the answer is yes.
Unfortunately, waht exad said. Stuff like that is so unpredictable. Keep in mind that pretty much EVERYTHING on modern phones is tiny. There are entire chips and resistor packs that would be described as miniscule, but are critical.
If you have it apart already, and can find a replacement part and it's easy enough to replace, I'd hedge my bets and just replace it while I'm in there rather than putting it back together and learning the hard way that you have to go through it all again.
similar issue
Have the same issue.I accidently trapped gsm antenna wire between housing and dock connector. Its been bent in 4 or 5 points.searching for network gives error."error while searching for networks ”
Please suggest what can I do.
Replace the part.
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I need to replace the hardware keyboard in the Q. Reason is the 'b' key doesnt click much anymore, it has almost no travel when typing on it. Where can I buy a genuine replacement? Is it also difficult to replace?
Please, let me know if you can.
here you go ;
http://www.etradesupply.com/oem-motorola-photon-q-4g-lte-xt897-qwerty-keypad.html
This will not help you... Photon Q's keyboard is build in such way that there are golden circles with golden dot inside - each button has its own. Then, on those golden pads, there is a sticky film with metal caps which, when you press, they connect the dot with the circle around it. So presumably the thing that got broken on your phone is either the metal cap (it can get worn...) or it somehow moved (rather impossible). So the thing you want to buy is the sticky film (white foil) with metal caps. If thats not it, then you need the motherboard...
If I didn't explain it clearly, check the photos, for example in Cornholio GSM hardware mod thread
Thanks for the advice. Indeed, I believe that's the problem. Where to find a replacement for that one?
I've seen those replacements for XT894, which is the same. Search for that one and you will find it on Ebay.
Die Bruine said:
I've seen those replacements for XT894, which is the same. Search for that one and you will find it on Ebay.
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....remove button foil, clean it and stick it back...
test it and let me know
How do I dismantle without breaking it? I can access the battery and the soldered SIM... what should I do to proceed further?
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antonyfirst said:
How do I dismantle without breaking it? I can access the battery and the soldered SIM... what should I do to proceed further?
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on youtube is Photon q Disassembly video
someone still need a replacement?
i work in a wearhouse that have cooperations with Motorola.
we have a lot of spareparts but i never needed them for now.
iam not sure if we have xt897 replacement keyboard because its not released here.
and the letters and numbers on the keyboard are only sticker i think.
but i will ask
Hi there, the keyboard sticker with metal pads would be handy spares, but do you have access to the slider ribbons? These are a wearing part - the one that joins the screen to the base.
I'd like a few of those!
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we have every little screw, rubber sealing or what ever. but iam the first of our company that asked to buy things intern.
some guys in our office need to contact motorola first and ask for permission. we will know more in a few days.
smoking weed can affect (mistake post)
Sounds good - I need 4x ribbons, 2x screens & digitizers, 3x batteries.
See what you can do - I'd take more if you can get it.
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Hey there!
Ive bought this Device 4 weeks ago. It was perfectly fine until now as the usb flap seems to not close properly anymore by charging etc. What can I do? It already got ripped off once but I've replaced it with a new one.
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Might affect the waterproof feature. Return it and get a magnetic charger.
They wont let me return it. Just for repair and I need this phone for work
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They wont let me return it. Just for repair and I need this phone for work
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If it's faulty I don't see how they can refuse to let you return it. It's not up to them!
Is the frame bent?
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If it's faulty I don't see how they can refuse to let you return it. It's not up to them!
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Easy - if it's a user-caused physical damage, most companies will refuse any returns and will only offer a repair . With the flap torn off or deformed to the point it can't close anymore, the company can NEVER be sure whether it was due to manufacturing defect OR because the user applied too much force when opening it, so for the company it's just safer to assume that it was a user-caused physical damage.
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Hey there!
Ive bought this Device 4 weeks ago. It was perfectly fine until now as the usb flap seems to not close properly anymore by charging etc. What can I do? It already got ripped off once but I've replaced it with a new one.
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What can you do? Basically, 2 things. Either rip the flap off if you don't NEED waterproof feature and continue using the microUSB cable for charging OR put a new flap and use a different charging cable, not microUSB but the one with magnet which can attach to the side "port" with exposed "pins", this way you will NEVER have to open the flap for charging. Or! Or find a different phone which can be both waterproof AND has wireless charging, these do exist, Samsung makes one It will have plastic body but hey, if your phone is a work tool and NOT just a toy for impressing your simple-minded "friends" with - plastic body is actually the better choice
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Easy - if it's a user-caused physical damage, most companies will refuse any returns and will only offer a repair . With the flap torn off or deformed to the point it can't close anymore, the company can NEVER be sure whether it was due to manufacturing defect OR because the user applied too much force when opening it, so for the company it's just safer to assume that it was a user-caused physical damage.
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They can assume what they want. I'd expect a flap to last more than 4 weeks and, personally, I'd pursue it and see what they say rather than just assuming.
Well, the problem is, that I already exchanged the flap with a new one because the old one just came off after 3 days of usage. Even then they refused as it is a damage which they thought was caused by mishandling the phone. I really care bout my things and handle them correctly, especially if its such a fragile device like the Z3 is. The first thing I did when I got it is drive to the city and buy an Adore June Soft case and I have no scratches or anything until now(no screen protector but i am thinking of that). So it wasn't my fault that it came off once in my eyes. It's just that it seems that there is a "left over" from the old flap inside the phone which means the new one doesn't fit correctly, sometimes it does sometimes it does not.
What shall I do if they just refuse it..
This is really frustrating bought a new one and even a NEEDLE thin tweezer to dig the bit inside the phone out. No way to get it out or anything near by that. Tried to put the new one in and guess what? It got stuck a bit so I had to turn it around and it snapped off! Now I have two of those **** things in side there. What to do? Send it to Sony? How much does that cost..?
Dude, just send it to Sony before you make even more scratches around the flap area with your tools. Or find a local smartphone repair shop (which can fix all smartphone models), they should be able to properly attach it for much cheaper price than Sony might charge you.
And like I mentioned before - consider using a cable which attaches to side "port" with magnet (it's called "Magnector" or whatever), OR switch to a different phone model from different manufacturer which doesn't require removing any flaps for charging. Then wait for brain-dead Sony "engineers" to release a proper carrier-free model with built-in wireless charging (like they did for Verizon), hopefully all of Z4 models will have that...
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Hey there!
Ive bought this Device 4 weeks ago. It was perfectly fine until now as the usb flap seems to not close properly anymore by charging etc. What can I do? It already got ripped off once but I've replaced it with a new one.
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yes this problem is facing me in my z3 Dual D6633 after relative 2 Months ago
I am guessing not all markets get an extra one in the box. I have the T-Mobile version and mine has an extra one in the box.
Hello, id like to know how this magnetic cable works, as much in detail as possible.
I have a situation where the Service blaims the magnetic cable (which is not a sony product) and thus puts my device out of warranty. Does it stand true? Can the magnetic cable damage my device? Does the warranty warn against using non-sony cables for charging, like the magnetic cable?
A little light shed would help me a ton.
This is laughable, how can the forums cease to exist? no replies to important matters make the existence of forums obsolete.
BLiapis said:
This is laughable, how can the forums cease to exist? no replies to important matters make the existence of forums obsolete.
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Chill.
Not many people use the magnetic cables because they are well known to break the battery so that's why no one has really replied.
Also Z3 is dying so forum has slowed down.
From what I can gather the connector in the phone is glued in instead of fixed properly to the body of the phone. The glue is **** and Sony did a poor job so it essentially just moves around inside the phone so the magnetic cable can actually be strong enough to rip it out of the phone.
Also it can be pushed in and damage the battery connection.
So yeah Sony has a case that because it is not their cable then it can damage the phone.
That's not their fault.
In general using non manufacturer components like cables etc gives them a case to say you caused the problem. Technically it's true that you shouldn't but let's be honest it usually isn't the cause of the problem.
The documentation doesn't state much about the magnetic charger. Probably because it would basically be admitting there is a design fault
It is however their fault that the glue sucks.
So act like a broken record and just keep saying there is a manufacturing fault and the glue is not strong enough to hold the connector to the body of the phone.
They know it's true...
But they will fight you.
Hopefully they break and just pay the tiny amount of money to replace the battery and connector. And glue it properly for you this time.
Good luck. Service centers vary a lot. Some are amazing and some suck.
Depends on the employees as well.
Sadly,the connector has not come loose. Its just blinking. They quoted 170euros for the fix which im not gonna take.
Got foocked by the warranty terms.
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Sadly,the connector has not come loose. Its just blinking. They quoted 170euros for the fix which im not gonna take.
Got foocked by the warranty terms.
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Wtf
Can get a whole second hand Z3 for less than that.
I'm glad you told them to get lost.
Just don't use the magnetic charger.
Easier to use USB anyway and safer
Edit: This fan from Digi-Key isn't the same fan as the stock one. I wouldn't advise buying it until bignazpwns confirms if his method works.
The fan in this phone is made of the softest type of plastic available. If you've messed with it at all you've probably broken it accidentally. Or, in my case you dropped the phone and the fan began clicking.
There are no results if you google "red magic 3 fan replacement", but luckily I've found the fan itself (not the fan housing) on Digi-Key for roughly $18.72 (remove the space): www .digikey.com/product-detail/en/delta-electronics/BSB01703HA3-00CAJ/603-2066-ND/7403223
A guide on how to take it out/put it in can be derived from this video (remove the space): www .youtube.com/watch?v=JiS24PRIq-A&t=268s
Helo, thanks for the info. Do you know where this fan ships from which country ?
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Helo, thanks for the info. Do you know where this fan ships from which country ?
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The sender address is extremely Chinese.
Thank you so much for the info
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bignazpwns said:
That fan won't work. It's a 4 wire pwm can in the RM3 that fan is a 3 wire.
I ordered one I broke my fan so I'm going to see if it has the -FP+ like the stock fan and just needs a wire or if I gotta transplant the board. Delta said it's a custom fan so I'll post what I get to get it back up and running.
Update. They offer no replacement fans what so ever and no help at all other then send it in for an extremely costly repair that will take over a month to complete.
I'll be making a guide this week about adapting the bsb01703ha3-00 as a replacement. There is no reason for them not to sell this fan or provide any info. 3 wire fan should work but will have no pwm control but I think there might be a solder point on it for the pwm lead. I'll post my findings as well as If I swap out the fans pcb with the OEM one. That should be the best way to do it and use the new fan as a donor housing and fan.
You will need to mod the housing tho since the blade is just held in by it's magnets and could move when dropped. This is why the OEM has that little bar over it. But I'll make a guide for everyone and save them a ton of money and time.
If you have a sla or dlp printer and you need a new housing here ya go.
www .thingiverse.com/search?q=Red+Magic+3&dwh=455dc3648534fa9
I'm working on a replacement fan as well.
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Sorry I've been meaning to make an update. I had the same idea you had for the -FP+ thing, and was just going to try connecting everything judging from the labels on (remove space) www .delta-fan.com/Download/Spec/BSB01703HA3-00CAJ.pdf , and connect + to + and - to -, and try both remaining ones with the middle wire. Unfortunately my fan's cables were too short to do that.
What I wound up doing was taking the circuit board (with all 4 cables) and very carefully placing it in the housing of the new fan, replacing its board. I soldered everything back up and nothing. It wouldn't spin at all, even on boot. So as far as I know this isn't a viable method, pending bignazpwns' response. I've already updated the OP to reflect. Big ups to bignazpwns for going the extra mile with the replacements
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Note.
Replacement fan is much louder due to the fact 100% is a bit more RPM. Just replaced the fan with one with a replacement blade assembly, coils off the aftermarket fan all on the stock pcb. This gets the auto speed control back and makes preform like stock. 100% is a little bit less in terms of RPM but much more quiet.
Just note swapping coils is not easy.
You will need to remove 1/2 a coil so you can get to the other solder pad. Red Magic fan used SMT coils and the replacement is soldered by hand. You will also need to apply light heat to remove them. They are stuck down with adhesive. I used a hot air reflow station but you really need to watch the heat because you can cause it to uncoil. Scale from 1-10 for soldering skill this is a 10.
The replacement fan drops right in and offeresore rpm to move more air at 100% just connect the 3 wires and be done with it. I'm always here to give advice and help of you need to do this. Also for adhesive I use this. AJ Sign World Best 1" Ultra-Thin... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01NBJVU04?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share it's thin and super strong. If you work on phones I highly recommend you get a roll.
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Thanks for the advice just in case my fans breaks when i get my phone
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Thanks for the advice just in case my fans breaks when i get my phone
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NP. I destroyed mine with 100psi of air lol. No big deal easy fix and it's only hard if you make it. I'll probably swap the replacement fan back in for the higher rpm and more air flow. On and off control is good enough for me.
What happened with all of these info removed ? My fan started to make weird noises and i start investigating on its replacement... The most disappointing fact is i barely used the fan and the phone has around 6 month :|
So what happened with the info ?
Alex4455 said:
What happened with all of these info removed ? My fan started to make weird noises and i start investigating on its replacement... The most disappointing fact is i barely used the fan and the phone has around 6 month :|
So what happened with the info ?
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OP trolled us.
No I removed the info. People need to realize no on won here owes people anything. But for some reason they think they do. So all info was removed. People can figure out what needs to be done on there own.
Alex I'll help you out. Just send me a private message.