im interested in any improvement over the G2's weird H+ issues
This is now the 2nd HSPA phone so im expecting an improvement over the first device. Everything i saw from the G2 was that it was pulling barely noticable numbers over a normal 7.2 phone
Lockeskidney said:
im interested in any improvement over the G2's weird H+ issues
This is now the 2nd HSPA phone so im expecting an improvement over the first device. Everything i saw from the G2 was that it was pulling barely noticable numbers over a normal 7.2 phone
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Well we'll see tomorrow huh?
The myTouch 4G and G2 are pulling similar download and upload speeds for me in an HSPA+ coverage area (I have both review units in house).
For me It seems I'm getting better signal/speeds with the Mytouch 4g than I did with the g2. Overall I'm much happier with the performance of the 4g over the g2. That hinge was an issue for me. All we need now is a perm. root.
I'm supposed to be in a HSPA+ area, but I'm only getting between 100-200KB in the T-Mobile store, and at home I'm getting between 50-100KB. These are download speeds.
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I'm supposed to be in a HSPA+ area, but I'm only getting between 100-200KB in the T-Mobile store, and at home I'm getting between 50-100KB. These are download speeds.
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you are talking about KBytes per second. not kbps (bits) right. 100-200KB/sec is what i was getting in chicago before they officially change the speeds to 5mbps+ speeds. now i get 4.7-5.8mbps =650-750KB/sec. very pleased with the speeds. way faster than my old dsl.
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you are talking about KBytes per second. not kbps (bits) right. 100-200KB/sec is what i was getting in chicago before they officially change the speeds to 5mbps+ speeds. now i get 4.7-5.8mbps =650-750KB/sec. very pleased with the speeds. way faster than my old dsl.
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Yes, that is correct. I'm in the Dallas/Fort Worth area of Texas, it's supposed to be active here.
ok i havent seen a post for this so here we go..
if you use adw launcher and custom make an icon attached to the hidden menu apk you can access the test and servicing menus like other phones BUT... if you go into test settings for phone (play around its in there) there is a menu the shows hspda (3g, hspda+ being 4g) and many other functions that are advertised on the phone that are all listed as NOT IMPLIMENTED YET!!
so as far as i can tell 4g is NOT active on tmobile at all yet. not until the software is upgraded (gingerbread i am assuming). so it would make sense why the signal on the phone is screwed up and dropping (confused phone maybe?) and why im still getting 3g speeds (slightly faster maybe from better signal reception due to upgraded hardware from my previous Vibrant).
go take a look for yourself and let me know what you think. im sure you can use desktop visualizer to get to the menu to. DONT MESS WITH ANYTHING THOUGH. i had to reset my phone and not with a hard reset, but a recovery i found on a nvflash website. almost bricked it. so just look but don't touch anything important unless you know what your doing.
im looking forward to hearing what everything thinks of this and the giant list of other features also saying this in the same menu. because i feel mislead just a little bit.....
I think it's just that the functions in the hidden menu aren't implemented yet.
Hmmm, interesting find! Maybe this explains the problems I'm having maintaining a stable 2g only connection as well
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ok i havent seen a post for this so here we go..
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There's a reason for that...
so as far as i can tell 4g is NOT active on tmobile at all yet. not until the software is upgraded (gingerbread i am assuming)
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I've got a hot 4g connection where I am (west Texas), you don't get 4.9-5.6mb (Speedtest) download on 3g. Did you check the T-Mobile coverage map to see if you have it in your area yet?
Edit: you also may need a new sim card. Depending on the age of the card, you might not be able to get a stable lock on to 4g (age as in what generation it was produced.. not how long you've had it)
thats possible, but im getting 3g speeds still as far as i can tell and i don't see why it wouldnt be included in the "hidden menu" if it is working since we aren't "really" supposed to know about the hidden menu. anyways just something i noticed.
menu is Hidden Menu->modem settings is where the menu is at.
and i got a new sim card (tired 2 new ones both the same) and yes i am in salt lake city and it is a 4g area for tmobile. but seems like everyone (mostly) is getting signal drops all over the place. my 2g isn't working as consistantly as it did before on my vibrant either. im sure gingerbread will fix all of this though.
I'm getting 4-8mps down in Metro Atlanta. I say 4G speed is on.
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Hmmm, interesting find! Maybe this explains the problems I'm having maintaining a stable 2g only connection as well
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I'm having the same problem, and I've even got a 2G booster in my house. My 2G connection drops all the time on my G2X but not my Vibrant. When I look at the signal strength when it's up it's not much different than the Vibrant, -104dBm on the G2X vs -100 dBm on the Vibrant
Im at a consistent 6-9mb dl at my house with a 1mb+ ul. Im calling it 4g and have you tried your conn outside of your city to see if its just congestion on the network?
I'm also getting 4-8mbps speeds in Atlanta, 4g is definitely working.
I'm in vegas, every hour, I get only 10 or 20mn of 4g at 6Mb download speed, the rest of the time I'm on 2g. At night time,i get 4g most of the time. So I guess in the day time, they kick me back to 2g to save their bandwitch, I'm returning my phone to let them know this is not acceptable
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My phone SAYS 4G all the time in Charlotte NC but I have only been getting 1mb DL and about 1.5 upload. The weird thing is that browsing the web is lightening fast compared to the vibrant. I would say it loads pages twice as fast.
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My phone SAYS 4G all the time in Charlotte NC but I have only been getting 1mb DL and about 1.5 upload. The weird thing is that browsing the web is lightening fast compared to the vibrant. I would say it loads pages twice as fast.
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Not sure but this may have as much to do with the processor and RAM speed as the connection speed.
I get crap speeds compared to the Nexus S, and that phone doesn't support full hspa+
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I get crap speeds compared to the Nexus S, and that phone doesn't support full hspa+
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I am not complaining about my speeds which are plenty good IMO, averaging around 3-3.5 mbps. However, I have been surprised that they are no better than my Nexus One was that also didn't support HSPA+.
A few things, before we get too heavy handed on the FUD:
The phone is technically '4G' compatible, and it supports it out of the box.
Most of T-Mo's towers have been upgraded to support their 4G (HSPA+)
Regular HSPA caps out at about 3.5Mbps down. I've gotten as much as 7Mbps down on my G2x
Personally, I haven't had many issues with signal, but I live in Houston, so that may have something to do with it.
4g is on in Huntington Beach, and irvine.
I did notice its not a huge difference speed wise though. I had the moto cliq 3g and i would get 1mbs ish to 5mbs DL, and with the G2x im averaging about 3mbs to 7mbs. not a huge difference but the big change is Latency. I used to rock 700ms to 1000ms on 3g with my cliq, im getting around 55ms to 150ms on my G2x.
Latency is key for me though, i would prefer lower latency than higher download speeds. Due to the fact I need to vpn and voip with company network.
I found that t mobiles 3g network is still very capable in speed. the main issue i had was my cliq was underpowered to handle the t mobiles network. when i would tether my rooted nook color it would perform like a champ.
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I am not complaining about my speeds which are plenty good IMO, averaging around 3-3.5 mbps. However, I have been surprised that they are no better than my Nexus One was that also didn't support HSPA+.
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Where do you live? Is it possible T-Mo may not support HSPA+ in your area?
It's also important to note that even if the towers you're connected to support HSPA+, that's only one part of the process. They also have to upgrade the data connection to the tower itself (backhaul) to ensure it can handle the speeds. If you're connected to an HSPA+ tower that doesn't have the upgraded backhaul, that could explain slow speeds.
No.
HSPA+ ("4G") is on and working. You're just not in an HSPA+ area it seems.
We're all getting faster than HSPA speeds, so we are certainly on HSPA+. Speedtests are the best way for you to verify if you are on EDGE (2G), HSPA (3G), or HSPA+ (4G).
I would like a 3g icon just top know what type of tower I'm on, I think the baseband is wack, I bet when gingerbread comes out we will get the separate icons... Also my vibrant would get steady 5-6mb down 2mb up, but with this phone its anything but steady, I can get up to 8mb down but its crazy random, regular use is sometimes slow initializing, and someones websites timeout.... I think a baseband upgrade will fix all this stuff tho, or software upgrades.
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I would like a 3g icon just top know what type of tower I'm on, I think the baseband is wack, I bet when gingerbread comes out we will get the separate icons... Also my vibrant would get steady 5-6mb down 2mb up, but with this phone its anything but steady, I can get up to 8mb down but its crazy random, regular use is sometimes slow initializing, and someones websites timeout.... I think a baseband upgrade will fix all this stuff tho, or software upgrades.
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That's the thing though. The way T-Mo has their network setup, if you can get 3G from a tower, you should be able to get 4G. Period. You may not get 4G speeds, but you're technically connected to an HSPA+ tower, and thus the 4G icon. It'd be weird to connect a tower that supports HSPA at this point, but not HSPA+ (though I'm sure there are some out there)
So I'm on the fence.. I've had Sprint .. the Evo a year ago and I know the speeds of the 3g.. and yeah I know they vary on location.. but the few speedtests I see on people posting on youtube are god awful. I was assuming that since it's evdo rev A. I should get similar speeds.. Am I an ass for assuming? Anybody move from sprint to Virgin and see speed decreases for 3g?
I think you can mod your PRL to get the same access to the towers as normal Sprint cusromers, as we use the same towers. I havent tried it yet.
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Yeah even with a modded PRL you're kind of boned. The best I've ever gotten is 1.2Mbps and that is completely usable, but sadly during the day my speeds are more like 200Kbps which is very very difficult to use when I'm use the the constant 3Mbps of my iphone. The speeds not the end of the world since wifi is everywhere but the slow speeds are still good enough for navigation and what not.
just wondering, i just took the speedtest and got 2.46 up and 0.20 down =/ i think it might be a bit slow =/
If thats ment to be 4G its a little slow yes. The speed test on my signature was done on a the THREE UK 3G network using the stock browser on my Sensation. I think my local cell has recently been upgraded to HSPA+.
So I've been using the crap out of my wifi at home since T-Mobile is slow to roll out 4g in my area, and my god its slow. The wifi downloads at literally 2g speeds. about 40 kBs. These speeds im getting from the google play store. Nothing else is using my network at the time. Speedtest from my PC shows about 1700 kBs down. i dont get it. Is anyone else having problems using WiFi on the play store?
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So I've been using the crap out of my wifi at home since T-Mobile is slow to roll out 4g in my area, and my god its slow. The wifi downloads at literally 2g speeds. about 40 kBs. These speeds im getting from the google play store. Nothing else is using my network at the time. Speedtest from my PC shows about 1700 kBs down. i dont get it. Is anyone else having problems using WiFi on the play store?
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Try using the speed test app on your phone.