HSPA+ better than G2 - myTouch 4G General

im interested in any improvement over the G2's weird H+ issues
This is now the 2nd HSPA phone so im expecting an improvement over the first device. Everything i saw from the G2 was that it was pulling barely noticable numbers over a normal 7.2 phone

Lockeskidney said:
im interested in any improvement over the G2's weird H+ issues
This is now the 2nd HSPA phone so im expecting an improvement over the first device. Everything i saw from the G2 was that it was pulling barely noticable numbers over a normal 7.2 phone
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Well we'll see tomorrow huh?

The myTouch 4G and G2 are pulling similar download and upload speeds for me in an HSPA+ coverage area (I have both review units in house).

For me It seems I'm getting better signal/speeds with the Mytouch 4g than I did with the g2. Overall I'm much happier with the performance of the 4g over the g2. That hinge was an issue for me. All we need now is a perm. root.

I'm supposed to be in a HSPA+ area, but I'm only getting between 100-200KB in the T-Mobile store, and at home I'm getting between 50-100KB. These are download speeds.

Emrys_90 said:
I'm supposed to be in a HSPA+ area, but I'm only getting between 100-200KB in the T-Mobile store, and at home I'm getting between 50-100KB. These are download speeds.
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you are talking about KBytes per second. not kbps (bits) right. 100-200KB/sec is what i was getting in chicago before they officially change the speeds to 5mbps+ speeds. now i get 4.7-5.8mbps =650-750KB/sec. very pleased with the speeds. way faster than my old dsl.

sg1dan said:
you are talking about KBytes per second. not kbps (bits) right. 100-200KB/sec is what i was getting in chicago before they officially change the speeds to 5mbps+ speeds. now i get 4.7-5.8mbps =650-750KB/sec. very pleased with the speeds. way faster than my old dsl.
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Yes, that is correct. I'm in the Dallas/Fort Worth area of Texas, it's supposed to be active here.

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[Q] Internet speed on my Nexus S

I read alot about people getting 3mb download speed, i never ever got more then 600kb...any ideas? is it my phone? or T-mobile service?
BTW with my X MyTouch 4g i got around 4.5mb (i know that the NS don't do 4g but still...)
I am in the Los Angeles area, Sherman oaks to be exact
coco135 said:
I read alot about people getting 3mb download speed, i never ever got more then 600kb...any ideas? is it my phone? or T-mobile service?
BTW with my X MyTouch 4g i got around 4.5mb (i know that the NS don't do 4g but still...)
I am in the Los Angeles area, Sherman oaks to be exact
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Its all about the Network in your area, but if what your saying is true and your MT4G got 4.5 down then your NS should get that speed as well
When you get 600kbps, does your Nexus S show that it has a 3G connection?
Also, have you exceeded your 5GB monthly data cap?
just thought of this, are you mistaking kbps to kb/s if it is kb/s then your speed is golden
kbps and kb/s are the same thing. I think you were trying to distinguish between kB/s and kb/s or kBps and kbps.
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kbps and kb/s are the same thing. I think you were trying to distinguish between kB/s and kb/s or kBps and kbps.
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ya, my bad damn that capital B, hes such a Bastard
but yea you get what i mean
Yes, i am on 3G.
No, not even close to 5GB data cap
speedtest.net shows
657 kbps download and 1255 kbps upload
So no problem with the upload but download seems a bit slow for a phone and network that are capable to do 7.2MB, no?
wierd, you should be getting same results. I had a nexus one, had high 3.0mbs to low 4mb. with the nexus s i get about .4-.8mbs higher, have hit 5mbs alot.
thing is, i believe with future radio updates this thing will smooth out in regards to loyalty in staying in that arena, i have noticed some dropped out 3g coverage on occasion and no refresh after coming out of a subway..which was just wierd.
**just think of it this way, the nexus one got massive improvements after 6months of it existing and then perfected in the last 2-3 months. the nexus s should have the same principles.**
Hi, I have a question for the Nexus S owners.
Did you get your cellphone for $200 with a contract, or $529 without one, or did you find a way to get them cheaper?
And don't you mind that the Nexus S don't support HSPA+ networks?
I am considering buying one.
Thank you.
iri1989 said:
Hi, I have a question for the Nexus S owners.
Did you get your cellphone for $200 with a contract, or $529 without one, or did you find a way to get them cheaper?
And don't you mind that the Nexus S don't support HSPA+ networks?
I am considering buying one.
Thank you.
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not the right place to ask this question but ill answer cause your new here
paid full price, because its cheaper to pay full price and get an even more plus plan
Nexus S speed cap is 7.2 down and 5ish up..which is plenty fast,
What's the point saying the device has a higher cap if the service provider don't give it to us?
Personally for myself, I'm in North Dallas and I never really see speeds past 2-3mbps; even when it says HSDPA. And I rarely hit HSDPA when streaming stuff so it's pretty much a useless 3G.
Aria807 said:
What's the point saying the device has a higher cap if the service provider don't give it to us?
Personally for myself, I'm in North Dallas and I never really see speeds past 2-3mbps; even when it says HSDPA. And I rarely hit HSDPA when streaming stuff so it's pretty much a useless 3G.
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The majority of all the carriers 4G is just backend.
ya the phone may be capable of 14.4 or what ever but you will never see that in real world situations, 4G in the end just means that there is more bandwidth for all of us to share.
but i have seen 6.5 down on my phone in my city which is blanketed by 4g goodness.
My brothe has a MT4G and he gets the same speeds as i do
coco135 said:
I read alot about people getting 3mb download speed, i never ever got more then 600kb...any ideas? is it my phone? or T-mobile service?
BTW with my X MyTouch 4g i got around 4.5mb (i know that the NS don't do 4g but still...)
I am in the Los Angeles area, Sherman oaks to be exact
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Mine is the same as yours. Most likely network.
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any ideas? Crappy Speeds. Same spot, same time

ok this is my Sony Ericsson x10a
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w300/rs4album/IMAG0003.jpg
and here is my Inspire
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w300/rs4album/DSC_0061.jpg
Anyone else's Inspire getting crap speeds? Why is my x10 slaughtering this?
I had the same problem. Try creating a new APN then switching back to the original one. I was getting 0.5mbs then getting 1-3mbs afterwards.
Noodles5666 said:
ok this is my Sony Ericsson x10a
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w300/rs4album/IMAG0003.jpg
and here is my Inspire
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w300/rs4album/DSC_0061.jpg
Anyone else's Inspire getting crap speeds? Why is my x10 slaughtering this?
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I'm having the same problem.
dewgong said:
I had the same problem. Try creating a new APN then switching back to the original one. I was getting 0.5mbs then getting 1-3mbs afterwards.
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Making an exact duplicate of the original?
JaysFreaky said:
I'm having the same problem.
Making an exact duplicate of the original?
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I am seeing the same thing. My download is typical (1-3mbps here in SF), but my iPhone would typically get 1-2mbps upload and I cant get better than 400kbps on the Inspire 4G
bella92108 said:
I am seeing the same thing. My download is typical (1-3mbps here in SF), but my iPhone would typically get 1-2mbps upload and I cant get better than 400kbps on the Inspire 4G
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check out this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=961198
andysousa said:
check out this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=961198
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Until the root\rom becomes less buggy I'm just going to deal with the slow upload speeds. Upload isn't a huge deal for me anyhow, it's all about the download, baby!
Download seems to be as fast as ever, at least as fast as AT&T's network will support here. We're still limited to about 1-3 mbps in SF, whereas when I go to Seattle or Vegas I commonly see 4-6 mbps... Bummer they're so slow to upgrade backhaul.
bella92108 said:
Until the root\rom becomes less buggy I'm just going to deal with the slow upload speeds. Upload isn't a huge deal for me anyhow, it's all about the download, baby!
Download seems to be as fast as ever, at least as fast as AT&T's network will support here. We're still limited to about 1-3 mbps in SF, whereas when I go to Seattle or Vegas I commonly see 4-6 mbps... Bummer they're so slow to upgrade backhaul.
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Yeah.. in boston i am lucky to get 1.5. I am guessing they haven't flipped the switch on the 4g? Sort of horrible how they advertise it though, walked by a att store in the mall tonight and there were signs all over the place about it.
andysousa said:
Yeah.. in boston i am lucky to get 1.5. I am guessing they haven't flipped the switch on the 4g? Sort of horrible how they advertise it though, walked by a att store in the mall tonight and there were signs all over the place about it.
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Well there's no "flipping the switch" because all the hardware in the metros has been upgraded to HSPA+... but the issue holding us back on speed is the backhaul going into the network. It's like going from 802.11g to 802.11n and expecting your internet to go faster... if you only have a 10 mbps internet connection going into it you can have the fastest router on the planet and the internet still won't go past 10 mbps... that's ATT's issue. The HSPA supported the backhaul just fine, they weren't maxing it out, and now HSPA+ aka their "4G(like) Speed Network" has the technology in place, but until they upgrade the individual tower's backhaul, houston, we have a roadblock :-( Good ol Ma Bell http://media.xda-developers.com/images/icons/icon13.gif
Same here only getting 2.5mbps Max in SoCal...sometimes just .60-.80mbps lol..
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4G not implimented yet!!?? plus more

ok i havent seen a post for this so here we go..
if you use adw launcher and custom make an icon attached to the hidden menu apk you can access the test and servicing menus like other phones BUT... if you go into test settings for phone (play around its in there) there is a menu the shows hspda (3g, hspda+ being 4g) and many other functions that are advertised on the phone that are all listed as NOT IMPLIMENTED YET!!
so as far as i can tell 4g is NOT active on tmobile at all yet. not until the software is upgraded (gingerbread i am assuming). so it would make sense why the signal on the phone is screwed up and dropping (confused phone maybe?) and why im still getting 3g speeds (slightly faster maybe from better signal reception due to upgraded hardware from my previous Vibrant).
go take a look for yourself and let me know what you think. im sure you can use desktop visualizer to get to the menu to. DONT MESS WITH ANYTHING THOUGH. i had to reset my phone and not with a hard reset, but a recovery i found on a nvflash website. almost bricked it. so just look but don't touch anything important unless you know what your doing.
im looking forward to hearing what everything thinks of this and the giant list of other features also saying this in the same menu. because i feel mislead just a little bit.....
I think it's just that the functions in the hidden menu aren't implemented yet.
Hmmm, interesting find! Maybe this explains the problems I'm having maintaining a stable 2g only connection as well
Dolphinwigs said:
ok i havent seen a post for this so here we go..
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There's a reason for that...
so as far as i can tell 4g is NOT active on tmobile at all yet. not until the software is upgraded (gingerbread i am assuming)
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I've got a hot 4g connection where I am (west Texas), you don't get 4.9-5.6mb (Speedtest) download on 3g. Did you check the T-Mobile coverage map to see if you have it in your area yet?
Edit: you also may need a new sim card. Depending on the age of the card, you might not be able to get a stable lock on to 4g (age as in what generation it was produced.. not how long you've had it)
thats possible, but im getting 3g speeds still as far as i can tell and i don't see why it wouldnt be included in the "hidden menu" if it is working since we aren't "really" supposed to know about the hidden menu. anyways just something i noticed.
menu is Hidden Menu->modem settings is where the menu is at.
and i got a new sim card (tired 2 new ones both the same) and yes i am in salt lake city and it is a 4g area for tmobile. but seems like everyone (mostly) is getting signal drops all over the place. my 2g isn't working as consistantly as it did before on my vibrant either. im sure gingerbread will fix all of this though.
I'm getting 4-8mps down in Metro Atlanta. I say 4G speed is on.
jdkackley said:
Hmmm, interesting find! Maybe this explains the problems I'm having maintaining a stable 2g only connection as well
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I'm having the same problem, and I've even got a 2G booster in my house. My 2G connection drops all the time on my G2X but not my Vibrant. When I look at the signal strength when it's up it's not much different than the Vibrant, -104dBm on the G2X vs -100 dBm on the Vibrant
Im at a consistent 6-9mb dl at my house with a 1mb+ ul. Im calling it 4g and have you tried your conn outside of your city to see if its just congestion on the network?
I'm also getting 4-8mbps speeds in Atlanta, 4g is definitely working.
I'm in vegas, every hour, I get only 10 or 20mn of 4g at 6Mb download speed, the rest of the time I'm on 2g. At night time,i get 4g most of the time. So I guess in the day time, they kick me back to 2g to save their bandwitch, I'm returning my phone to let them know this is not acceptable
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My phone SAYS 4G all the time in Charlotte NC but I have only been getting 1mb DL and about 1.5 upload. The weird thing is that browsing the web is lightening fast compared to the vibrant. I would say it loads pages twice as fast.
jrharvey said:
My phone SAYS 4G all the time in Charlotte NC but I have only been getting 1mb DL and about 1.5 upload. The weird thing is that browsing the web is lightening fast compared to the vibrant. I would say it loads pages twice as fast.
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Not sure but this may have as much to do with the processor and RAM speed as the connection speed.
I get crap speeds compared to the Nexus S, and that phone doesn't support full hspa+
jlevy73 said:
I get crap speeds compared to the Nexus S, and that phone doesn't support full hspa+
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I am not complaining about my speeds which are plenty good IMO, averaging around 3-3.5 mbps. However, I have been surprised that they are no better than my Nexus One was that also didn't support HSPA+.
A few things, before we get too heavy handed on the FUD:
The phone is technically '4G' compatible, and it supports it out of the box.
Most of T-Mo's towers have been upgraded to support their 4G (HSPA+)
Regular HSPA caps out at about 3.5Mbps down. I've gotten as much as 7Mbps down on my G2x
Personally, I haven't had many issues with signal, but I live in Houston, so that may have something to do with it.
4g is on in Huntington Beach, and irvine.
I did notice its not a huge difference speed wise though. I had the moto cliq 3g and i would get 1mbs ish to 5mbs DL, and with the G2x im averaging about 3mbs to 7mbs. not a huge difference but the big change is Latency. I used to rock 700ms to 1000ms on 3g with my cliq, im getting around 55ms to 150ms on my G2x.
Latency is key for me though, i would prefer lower latency than higher download speeds. Due to the fact I need to vpn and voip with company network.
I found that t mobiles 3g network is still very capable in speed. the main issue i had was my cliq was underpowered to handle the t mobiles network. when i would tether my rooted nook color it would perform like a champ.
jimbo831 said:
I am not complaining about my speeds which are plenty good IMO, averaging around 3-3.5 mbps. However, I have been surprised that they are no better than my Nexus One was that also didn't support HSPA+.
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Where do you live? Is it possible T-Mo may not support HSPA+ in your area?
It's also important to note that even if the towers you're connected to support HSPA+, that's only one part of the process. They also have to upgrade the data connection to the tower itself (backhaul) to ensure it can handle the speeds. If you're connected to an HSPA+ tower that doesn't have the upgraded backhaul, that could explain slow speeds.
No.
HSPA+ ("4G") is on and working. You're just not in an HSPA+ area it seems.
We're all getting faster than HSPA speeds, so we are certainly on HSPA+. Speedtests are the best way for you to verify if you are on EDGE (2G), HSPA (3G), or HSPA+ (4G).
I would like a 3g icon just top know what type of tower I'm on, I think the baseband is wack, I bet when gingerbread comes out we will get the separate icons... Also my vibrant would get steady 5-6mb down 2mb up, but with this phone its anything but steady, I can get up to 8mb down but its crazy random, regular use is sometimes slow initializing, and someones websites timeout.... I think a baseband upgrade will fix all this stuff tho, or software upgrades.
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pychobj2001 said:
I would like a 3g icon just top know what type of tower I'm on, I think the baseband is wack, I bet when gingerbread comes out we will get the separate icons... Also my vibrant would get steady 5-6mb down 2mb up, but with this phone its anything but steady, I can get up to 8mb down but its crazy random, regular use is sometimes slow initializing, and someones websites timeout.... I think a baseband upgrade will fix all this stuff tho, or software upgrades.
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That's the thing though. The way T-Mo has their network setup, if you can get 3G from a tower, you should be able to get 4G. Period. You may not get 4G speeds, but you're technically connected to an HSPA+ tower, and thus the 4G icon. It'd be weird to connect a tower that supports HSPA at this point, but not HSPA+ (though I'm sure there are some out there)

What's the most the G2X can download mbps???

Just curious of the mbps max our phone can handle
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14.4 megs downstream
Thanks but what's this I hear about 42mbps?
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TMobile has upgraded a few cities (and plans to upgrade more) to theoretical speeds of up to 42mbps. Since the radio in the g2x goes up to 14.4 this will have no impact on our phones. That said I've yet to see the phone that even hits 14mbps, so I don't really think having a radio capable of 42mbps would even really matter. I mean I've still yet to see the 14.4 radio that has actually pulled down a real world speed of 14.4mbps. I think all that stuff sounds great on paper but in real life odds are you won't see that speed.
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On wifi at home I get 20+ mbps download
I posted the following at the thread on 3g in the status....more appropiate here,so I duplicate it.
I have to put my two cents in on speeds.
I started (my smarty phone odyssey) on Metropcs in Feb....most speed test ever showed was like 1.6mbps...once. Mostly at 1.4-1.5. I was very unhappy with that. Between these speeds, battery issues, no support (from Samsung), I had enuff and went to Sprint. I saw around1.0 Mbps in the beginning. When I complained, they made an adjustment on their end amd it got worse! My average was .65 up and down. Then I went back to Metro. Seems they are suddenly having speed issues. Couldn't get more than about .80, with the same other issues as before. So I've purchased the G2x.
Got two yesterday!!
Both have bleed. Doesn't bother me as it is though. Just noticeable when screen is black. It IS bs, but not a dealbreaker, if it doesn't get worse.
I see people talking about speeds of 8 and 9Mbps and I say I'd be happy with a third of that.
Personally I don't think speedtest is accurate. But I never see that discussed.
T Mobile is supposed to activate these tomorrow. I'll post my speeds. If I get anything above 4.0, I'll be in heaven.
I have looked at youtube videos via wifi and am in awe of this device. Really smooth playback. Wow. Better than the Indulge AND the Evo IMO.
My new phone is supposed to activate tommorow. Can't wait
Oh and I'm in the Dallas market. I'm on top of DFW airport. Dallas is Metros home market so system is overall good here, but I'm in a bit of a dip so reception can be an issue in my home.
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off topic:
On wifi at home I get 20+ mbps download
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I get similar numbers on wifi
highest I've ever actually speed-tested is ~21 Mbps down, ~5Mbps on wifi and ~9Mbps down, ~2Mbps up on H. I don't belive H+ is available in my area at this time (Indianapolis, IN).

Inspire users in Louisiana

I just wanted to see if its just the service in my area or maybe I'm u using the wrong radio and ril on my phone, but I seem to get god awful dl/ul speeds on my phone even though it claims to be on h+/4g when I run tests or just I use the phone to surf. Guess what I'm asking is what are the speeds you guys/girls are getting, both up and down, in and around the new orleans area? At around 3 or 4 am ill get 3Mb down 1 up. On a daily basis though I see dl speeds of less than 1Mb and 150-250kbps up. speeds
I am down here in Thibodaux and when doing a speed test it is showing a server out of New Orleans. I am pulling download at appox. 2.25Mbps and Upload at appox 1.15Mbps. This is with the upgrade and I am not rooted sitting in my kitchen....I can get a little better when driving around the area...I will be your area later today and will run another.
I have the same issue in Florida. It's ATT imo. The phone has H+ but is running on hsdpa. That's 7.7 mbps 3G. Enhanced backhaul my ass. I contacted ATT corporate and will be waiting for a response.
North Louisiana Shreveport area, same very slow dl/ul running radio 4.11_m2 matching Ril. I agree it's ATT, My wife's new one is the same way.
In New Orleans now and I get about the same as I do in Thibodaux. My phone is not rooted.
its really annoying that they have up paying for 4g service but half the time its edge or a tiny bit better
Well your not actually paying any more for 4G compared to 3G........
Projectdwnshft said:
its really annoying that they have up paying for 4g service but half the time its edge or a tiny bit better
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i live in natchitoches and they just turned on 3G after a year of delays and its been going on and off all day with peoples phones, like theirs super spotty coverage but the best speeds i got were 2.2 down and 0.8 up
Bossier City Area
My speeds are very similar to yours...
I get about 1 down at BEST... and I struggle to get that.
I've gotten up speeds of 150-300 the majority of the time but have seen this spike to 1Mb inconsistently with some radios.
I'm on Coredroid. My most consistent results are using the AT&T OTA radio from April 29th.

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