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ok i havent seen a post for this so here we go..
if you use adw launcher and custom make an icon attached to the hidden menu apk you can access the test and servicing menus like other phones BUT... if you go into test settings for phone (play around its in there) there is a menu the shows hspda (3g, hspda+ being 4g) and many other functions that are advertised on the phone that are all listed as NOT IMPLIMENTED YET!!
so as far as i can tell 4g is NOT active on tmobile at all yet. not until the software is upgraded (gingerbread i am assuming). so it would make sense why the signal on the phone is screwed up and dropping (confused phone maybe?) and why im still getting 3g speeds (slightly faster maybe from better signal reception due to upgraded hardware from my previous Vibrant).
go take a look for yourself and let me know what you think. im sure you can use desktop visualizer to get to the menu to. DONT MESS WITH ANYTHING THOUGH. i had to reset my phone and not with a hard reset, but a recovery i found on a nvflash website. almost bricked it. so just look but don't touch anything important unless you know what your doing.
im looking forward to hearing what everything thinks of this and the giant list of other features also saying this in the same menu. because i feel mislead just a little bit.....
I think it's just that the functions in the hidden menu aren't implemented yet.
Hmmm, interesting find! Maybe this explains the problems I'm having maintaining a stable 2g only connection as well
Dolphinwigs said:
ok i havent seen a post for this so here we go..
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There's a reason for that...
so as far as i can tell 4g is NOT active on tmobile at all yet. not until the software is upgraded (gingerbread i am assuming)
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I've got a hot 4g connection where I am (west Texas), you don't get 4.9-5.6mb (Speedtest) download on 3g. Did you check the T-Mobile coverage map to see if you have it in your area yet?
Edit: you also may need a new sim card. Depending on the age of the card, you might not be able to get a stable lock on to 4g (age as in what generation it was produced.. not how long you've had it)
thats possible, but im getting 3g speeds still as far as i can tell and i don't see why it wouldnt be included in the "hidden menu" if it is working since we aren't "really" supposed to know about the hidden menu. anyways just something i noticed.
menu is Hidden Menu->modem settings is where the menu is at.
and i got a new sim card (tired 2 new ones both the same) and yes i am in salt lake city and it is a 4g area for tmobile. but seems like everyone (mostly) is getting signal drops all over the place. my 2g isn't working as consistantly as it did before on my vibrant either. im sure gingerbread will fix all of this though.
I'm getting 4-8mps down in Metro Atlanta. I say 4G speed is on.
jdkackley said:
Hmmm, interesting find! Maybe this explains the problems I'm having maintaining a stable 2g only connection as well
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I'm having the same problem, and I've even got a 2G booster in my house. My 2G connection drops all the time on my G2X but not my Vibrant. When I look at the signal strength when it's up it's not much different than the Vibrant, -104dBm on the G2X vs -100 dBm on the Vibrant
Im at a consistent 6-9mb dl at my house with a 1mb+ ul. Im calling it 4g and have you tried your conn outside of your city to see if its just congestion on the network?
I'm also getting 4-8mbps speeds in Atlanta, 4g is definitely working.
I'm in vegas, every hour, I get only 10 or 20mn of 4g at 6Mb download speed, the rest of the time I'm on 2g. At night time,i get 4g most of the time. So I guess in the day time, they kick me back to 2g to save their bandwitch, I'm returning my phone to let them know this is not acceptable
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My phone SAYS 4G all the time in Charlotte NC but I have only been getting 1mb DL and about 1.5 upload. The weird thing is that browsing the web is lightening fast compared to the vibrant. I would say it loads pages twice as fast.
jrharvey said:
My phone SAYS 4G all the time in Charlotte NC but I have only been getting 1mb DL and about 1.5 upload. The weird thing is that browsing the web is lightening fast compared to the vibrant. I would say it loads pages twice as fast.
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Not sure but this may have as much to do with the processor and RAM speed as the connection speed.
I get crap speeds compared to the Nexus S, and that phone doesn't support full hspa+
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I get crap speeds compared to the Nexus S, and that phone doesn't support full hspa+
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I am not complaining about my speeds which are plenty good IMO, averaging around 3-3.5 mbps. However, I have been surprised that they are no better than my Nexus One was that also didn't support HSPA+.
A few things, before we get too heavy handed on the FUD:
The phone is technically '4G' compatible, and it supports it out of the box.
Most of T-Mo's towers have been upgraded to support their 4G (HSPA+)
Regular HSPA caps out at about 3.5Mbps down. I've gotten as much as 7Mbps down on my G2x
Personally, I haven't had many issues with signal, but I live in Houston, so that may have something to do with it.
4g is on in Huntington Beach, and irvine.
I did notice its not a huge difference speed wise though. I had the moto cliq 3g and i would get 1mbs ish to 5mbs DL, and with the G2x im averaging about 3mbs to 7mbs. not a huge difference but the big change is Latency. I used to rock 700ms to 1000ms on 3g with my cliq, im getting around 55ms to 150ms on my G2x.
Latency is key for me though, i would prefer lower latency than higher download speeds. Due to the fact I need to vpn and voip with company network.
I found that t mobiles 3g network is still very capable in speed. the main issue i had was my cliq was underpowered to handle the t mobiles network. when i would tether my rooted nook color it would perform like a champ.
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I am not complaining about my speeds which are plenty good IMO, averaging around 3-3.5 mbps. However, I have been surprised that they are no better than my Nexus One was that also didn't support HSPA+.
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Where do you live? Is it possible T-Mo may not support HSPA+ in your area?
It's also important to note that even if the towers you're connected to support HSPA+, that's only one part of the process. They also have to upgrade the data connection to the tower itself (backhaul) to ensure it can handle the speeds. If you're connected to an HSPA+ tower that doesn't have the upgraded backhaul, that could explain slow speeds.
No.
HSPA+ ("4G") is on and working. You're just not in an HSPA+ area it seems.
We're all getting faster than HSPA speeds, so we are certainly on HSPA+. Speedtests are the best way for you to verify if you are on EDGE (2G), HSPA (3G), or HSPA+ (4G).
I would like a 3g icon just top know what type of tower I'm on, I think the baseband is wack, I bet when gingerbread comes out we will get the separate icons... Also my vibrant would get steady 5-6mb down 2mb up, but with this phone its anything but steady, I can get up to 8mb down but its crazy random, regular use is sometimes slow initializing, and someones websites timeout.... I think a baseband upgrade will fix all this stuff tho, or software upgrades.
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pychobj2001 said:
I would like a 3g icon just top know what type of tower I'm on, I think the baseband is wack, I bet when gingerbread comes out we will get the separate icons... Also my vibrant would get steady 5-6mb down 2mb up, but with this phone its anything but steady, I can get up to 8mb down but its crazy random, regular use is sometimes slow initializing, and someones websites timeout.... I think a baseband upgrade will fix all this stuff tho, or software upgrades.
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That's the thing though. The way T-Mo has their network setup, if you can get 3G from a tower, you should be able to get 4G. Period. You may not get 4G speeds, but you're technically connected to an HSPA+ tower, and thus the 4G icon. It'd be weird to connect a tower that supports HSPA at this point, but not HSPA+ (though I'm sure there are some out there)
ok here's my question. first does the wifi router effect the up & down speeds. At home i have a N router at work I have a G one.My speeds at home are are much faster close to 5mbps at work under 1mbps. does the radio version effect this? My radio is 12.39.60.19p 26.06.04.06_m. I'm running coredroid gingerbread rom
sound like average normale UNLOCKED HSPA ATT Speeds, i get 4.3m in orlando FL
d4redevil said:
sound like average normale UNLOCKED HSPA ATT Speeds, i get 4.3m in orlando FL
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What the hell dude, read what the OP is asking. Yes we already know you're getting 4.3m in Orlando, you've said this in like 5 threads now. The OP is asking about WiFi, and HSPA is not relevant to this.
inspired55 said:
ok here's my question. first does the wifi router effect the up & down speeds. At home i have a N router at work I have a G one.My speeds at home are are much faster close to 5mbps at work under 1mbps. does the radio version effect this? My radio is 12.39.60.19p 26.06.04.06_m. I'm running coredroid gingerbread rom
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Yes, the router can make the difference in speeds. Your radio version is the old stock one before last week's OTA update, and is perfectly fine for good WiFi speeds. As a matter of fact, every version of radio I've tried (including yours) I've always gotten good WiFi speeds - around 13MB/s at my house (I have a 20Mb/s connection). Sounds like there's a misconfiguration on your work router, or some other issue - but I wouldn't worry about your radio version.
More people on the connection is going to slow it down as well. I'm assuming there are more people on the work connection than your home connection.
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sound like average normale UNLOCKED HSPA ATT Speeds, i get 4.3m in orlando FL
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Dude, please stop mentioning your speed everywhere you go!!???&%$&%$%
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Thanks Henry now can you tell me whyba Co worker has faster speed on 3g than my 4g. About 3 tomes faster
I don't have cable internet where i live due to the fact i travel to and from class way to much to use it. I tethered my phone via wireless or usb to my computer and run off of the 3g network speeds. I currently switch between CM7 and then new EVO Shift 2.3.3 leaked GB Test ROM. I noticed that i have 57% signal according to opensignal and when i download anything or load web pages they are very slow no matter how many bars i have. My download speeds are usually around 20kbps to 55kbps max Is there anything i can do to increase the net speed of my 3G connection? Or is there a app on the market place that i can use to improve or some how boost my 3g network speeds.
I've noticed a little bit slower speeds using the Gingerbread leak but nothing as slow as what you are experiencing. Have you tried the fix from this thread? [FIX] 3G Upload & Download Speeds
Sprints network for Michigan, Ohio and all its surrounding states flat out sucks I get them speeds daily and all Sprint keeps doing is knocking 20 and 50 off my bills, I don't care about money off they either need to fix their network or that roam controlling app is going to get me out of contract etf free I don't care to pay good money for good service but when I pay 160 a month for 2 lines I would expect to be getting the 3G Sprint lies and says I get,
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Yea, know what you mean. I've called them several times here in Michigan. All they do is tell me is "we're working on the network to improve call quality and internet service" . Same answer almost everytime.
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Have you flashed the new radio found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1082192 its the radio that came out with the gingerbread ruu. I had the same issue. I was using the old radio on the new roms and my 3g speeds where about 50-90 kbps then upgraded the new radio now I'm getting on average anywhere between 300-700kbps
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Have you flashed the new radio found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1082192 its the radio that came out with the gingerbread ruu. I had the same issue. I was using the old radio on the new roms and my 3g speeds where about 50-90 kbps then upgraded the new radio now I'm getting on average anywhere between 300-700kbps
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Ah is that what it was. I flashed a new rom the other day with the sense 2.1 and everything was cool except the 3g data speed. It was taking 5-10 minutes to download a 1mb file so I had to restore my other rom lol. My normal 3g data speeds are over 1mbps which is super fast. I couldnt even browse the web with the leaked build, it was ridiculous.
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Ah is that what it was. I flashed a new rom the other day with the sense 2.1 and everything was cool except the 3g data speed. It was taking 5-10 minutes to download a 1mb file so I had to restore my other rom lol. My normal 3g data speeds are over 1mbps which is super fast. I couldnt even browse the web with the leaked build, it was ridiculous.
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Wow when mine hit 700 kbps I thought that was fast. I came from T-Mobile and was getting 2-3mbps on their 3g also my girlfriend uses Comcast to go which uses the Sprint towers for the service and she gets 1.5 to 3 mbps speeds
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hey
going to try what one do you guys do "1.17.651.1 RUU (Stock):" or 2.72.651.2 RUU: i dont have 4g here
i believe 1.17.651.1 ruu is the stock version that's already on your phone, for people that want to flash back to stock settings if the new radio fails to perform. you should flash to 2.72.651.2 if you want an attempt at an upgrade. personally, it did nothing on my end for the internet, but voice calls did slightly improve. i encountered problems too, where it would hang on the htc splash screen. i don't have an sd card adapter... so i had to put my micro in my old htc hero, run that as a mass storage unit, delete PG06IMG from the computer, boot into bootloader, delete everything, clean cache, davilk (i think that's what it's called), and re-load from nandroid backup. after that i saw 1.08... in about phone, baseband version so i guess i was successful lol. pain in the ass, but will further test it later outside and stuff... once the heat drops down over her in n.y. :]
Besides the fact that my 3G speeds crawl. My 4G is SLOWER on occaison than my 3G. Lol, why is this and how can I fix? It all started when I first flashed cm7
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Sprint Mikshifted 2.1
I was wondering the number i had to enter to access the network settings for the mikshifted 2.1 mod. I tried to enter ##3282# and no luck with that . I noticed that my 3g speeds were 20kbps and its horrible lol. Have flashed the new radio on a previous version of CM7 and Kingdom 3.0 rom and didn't work so hot for me. Anyone have any recommendations?
So I'm on the fence.. I've had Sprint .. the Evo a year ago and I know the speeds of the 3g.. and yeah I know they vary on location.. but the few speedtests I see on people posting on youtube are god awful. I was assuming that since it's evdo rev A. I should get similar speeds.. Am I an ass for assuming? Anybody move from sprint to Virgin and see speed decreases for 3g?
I think you can mod your PRL to get the same access to the towers as normal Sprint cusromers, as we use the same towers. I havent tried it yet.
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Yeah even with a modded PRL you're kind of boned. The best I've ever gotten is 1.2Mbps and that is completely usable, but sadly during the day my speeds are more like 200Kbps which is very very difficult to use when I'm use the the constant 3Mbps of my iphone. The speeds not the end of the world since wifi is everywhere but the slow speeds are still good enough for navigation and what not.
hi
i received my G2x from player911 about 2 days ago
and im completely impressed!
im running miui now, and the max speeds for data i got was 5.25Mbps / 1.7Mbps (on full bars)
im thinking the speeds can be better? on full bars?
Also i am using a sim card that shipped with my hd2 back in the day, will a more current sim card help?
dapoharoun said:
hi
i received my G2x from player911 about 2 days ago
and im completely impressed!
im running miui now, and the max speeds for data i got was 5.25Mbps / 1.7Mbps (on full bars)
im thinking the speeds can be better? on full bars?
Also i am using a sim card that shipped with my hd2 back in the day, will a more current sim card help?
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I don't think T-Mobile has its (3g+) 4g network working correctly. Here in Alabama I average between 2 and 5Mbps. The only time I went over 5 was in Atlanta.
didn't even think about that. it must be based on where I am.
Yea here in new orleans I always see 5 or better but I'm still using my HD2 Sim never had a problem !!
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U can't get "4g" speeds on a miui rom. I'm running it too
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Most of tmobiles antennas have been upgraded to allow 4g bandwidth. The problem is that the backend of each tower needs to be upgraded as well. Most towers have been run on 2 t1 lines before the 4g switch. They haven't upgraded all the modems yet or in your area there is only a limited speed for leased lines. The towers can vary from 50mbps connections down to 3. This depends on what your town has available. The highest your signal goes is about 100ft over your head. Once it hits the tower it's all land lines from there. So you count in data usage from other phones using that antenna and slow modem and you can see why you aren't reaching speeds like in Atlanta. Since Atlanta is a big city with a large infrastructure its easy to see that they would be the first to get the overhaul and they would get faster speeds since internet is cheaper due to competition.
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