Now that CM has released an official build for hammerhead why do they not have a thread here? I didn't want to post in any roms threads in case they said there is a specific reason or not. Have they just not gotten around to it? I much prefer xda threads to google+ to watch a rom develop.
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Now that CM has released an official build for hammerhead why do they not have a thread here? I didn't want to post in any roms threads in case they said there is a specific reason or not. Have they just not gotten around to it? I much prefer xda threads to google+ to watch a rom develop.
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they have www.cyanogenmod.org and their own forums, why would they post here?
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they have www.cyanogenmod.org and their own forums, why would they post here?
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In my experience, they have always had a thread in the past, saw no reason for that to change. I don't like everyone doing their own thing, its impossible to find Roms and dev nowadays. What happened to a good old fashioned changelog? Everyone is too good to write the features of their rom or a changelog. Idk I am a bit frustrated with nexus 5 development right now. The gs3 always had nice devs willing to post everything
Edit: yes I fully understand they owe me nothing as I do not pay, but I do support and donate to any dev who works hard and I have committed my own time to a free kernel that I spent hundreds of hours on, so please read this as me being whiny
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In my experience, they have always had a thread in the past, saw no reason for that to change. I don't like everyone doing their own thing, its impossible to find Roms and dev nowadays. What happened to a good old fashioned changelog? Everyone is too good to write the features of their rom or a changelog. Idk I am a bit frustrated with nexus 5 development right now. The gs3 always had nice devs willing to post everything
Edit: yes I fully understand they owe me nothing as I do not pay, but I do support and donate to any dev who works hard and I have committed my own time to a free kernel that I spent hundreds of hours on, so please read this as me being whiny
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So someone from the CM team should create a thread for each device they maintain, update it daily for you along with actually working on the builds? Why can't you read the change logs, gerrit, or github yourself and let the devs do what they do best? They shouldn't be wasting time updating threads here when they are supporting so many devices. They would need a secretary just to maintain the threads.
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So someone from the CM team should create a thread for each device they maintain, update it daily for you along with actually working on the builds? Why can't you read the change logs, gerrit, or github yourself and let the devs do what they do best? They shouldn't be wasting time updating threads here when they are supporting so many devices. They would need a secretary just to maintain the threads.
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I understand it's a lot of work, but I maintained a kernel across 4 devices, it wasn't easy but it wasn't the end of the world either
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they have www.cyanogenmod.org and their own forums, why would they post here?
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thanks for the heads up, but no nexus 5 forum
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thanks for the heads up, but no nexus 5 forum
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youre right! now thats odd
aeppacher said:
thanks for the heads up, but no nexus 5 forum
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I created a CM 11 Discussion and Q&A thread for the Nexus 5 below:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2562110
It's not a development thread, it is simple a place for people to go that want to discuss CM, chat, ask questions etc. Since I didn't see a forum for the Nexus 5 on CyanogenMod's official website, I decided to create one here for the time being. :good:
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So someone from the CM team should create a thread for each device they maintain, update it daily for you along with actually working on the builds? Why can't you read the change logs, gerrit, or github yourself and let the devs do what they do best? They shouldn't be wasting time updating threads here when they are supporting so many devices. They would need a secretary just to maintain the threads.
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Usually, the maintainer for the device does start an official thread in the relevant forum but it would seem this time no one has done so
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Usually, the maintainer for the device does starts an official thread in the relevant forum but it would seem this time no one has done so
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Yes I know but perhaps there isn't an active maintainer for the nexus 5 considering the incorporation of cyanogen now....
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Yes I know but perhaps there isn't an active maintainer for the nexus 5 considering the incorporation of cyanogen now....
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Absolutely, I was just mentioning it...
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Absolutely, I was just mentioning it...
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I find it interesting that they would have time to build for it (and I am sure several of their devs have the nexus 5) and test for it yet not make a forum. Even without a maintainer present the community would be able to solve a lot of issues
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I find it interesting that they would have time to build for it (and I am sure several of their devs have the nexus 5) and test for it yet not make a forum. Even without a maintainer present the community would be able to solve a lot of issues
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Jenkins builds them automatically.
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I've been a member of xda-dev since 2006 but have made only a few posts.
I'm interested in becoming more active and contributing as a developer, but I have some pretty strict posting restrictions because I'm a "new" user. (Post timing, edit timing, no links, etc)
Would it be possible to have these restrictions removed based on that fact that I've been a member for 6 years without incident?
Thanks,
tekkdrone
i don't think time on this board has to do with anything. you've been a member for 6 years yet only have 4 counted posts, which means you probably havent contributed much[not dissing you] to have the initial restrictions lifted
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i don't think time on this board has to do with anything. you've been a member for 6 years yet only have 4 counted posts, which means you probably havent contributed much[not dissing you] to have the initial restrictions lifted
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hmmmmm
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I caught that too. But I'm the noob, so maybe I'm counting posts wrong. But if I have to post over 300 posts to lift my "10 post" restriction, I'll never be able to post in the non-general forums.
Yeah, I also find the restrictions a little annoying. I've been working with Android for a few years, but I never joined up here. Now that I have, I can't be seen as a developer until I've made a certain amount of posts. Not the end of the world, but still not a very good idea considering that anyone can easily get around this.
Agreed.
Yesterday, I was forced to PM a ROM developer regarding a serious issue since I wasn't able to post in the thread.
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Yeah, I also find the restrictions a little annoying. I've been working with Android for a few years, but I never joined up here. Now that I have, I can't be seen as a developer until I've made a certain amount of posts. Not the end of the world, but still not a very good idea considering that anyone can easily get around this.
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Not that I fall into this category or anything, but what is the post count to post as a developer?
This is the first forum I've been on with these kinds of restrictions. I find it odd.
The post count restriction is for those users that only join to spam the development threads with "MY CAMERA DOESN'T WORK. WHY DOESN'T IT WORK?!!?!!!!!1"
If you want the restrictions lifted, just follow a thread and join the conversation.
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That seems ok I guess. I wasn't aware of this either, I am following the d3 kexec and can't post, it made me a bit bummed. Im not going to lie...
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Please have a look here: Postcount limit in developmental fora
I can understand the frustration this might bringt to some of you - but as said in the thread above, there's no better alternative.
If you have one, bring it out.
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Please have a look here: Postcount limit in developmental fora
I can understand the frustration this might bringt to some of you - but as said in the thread above, there's no better alternative.
If you have one, bring it out.
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restrictions do not make sense because I tasted such a Rom and see problems in it and I can tell the developer, who might not have noticed, but good forums are rules and should be respected
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Agreed.
Yesterday, I was forced to PM a ROM developer regarding a serious issue since I wasn't able to post in the thread.
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I know that feeling. Every time I got a real problem, then I found that I'm under the posts count restriction. But can't deny this is effective to prevent thread form spamming.
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restrictions do not make sense because I tasted such a Rom and see problems in it and I can tell the developer, who might not have noticed, but good forums are rules and should be respected
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The restrictions make sense precisely because of that reason. The two posts you have made prior to this one are;-
Good morning, I installed makious v Rom. 11.1 for my HTC evo 3D and calendar reminders are sometimes not
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Good morning, I installed the evolver Rom 2.1 for my HTC evo 3D and occasionally lost wifi signal and also the calendar reminders are sometimes not.
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Neither of those comments will be remotely useful to a developer or to a development thread.
If you were posting something along the lines of
I have recently installed your ROM v3.1 and have encountered a problem with synchronizing my calendar if I am running application 'Z'. I have rolled back to v3.0 and this problem didn't exist. I have also tried various other ICS ROMs and don't get the same problem.
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and you had searched the thread fully to ensure that nobody else had reported the problem and it wasn't listed in the 'Known Issues' at the start of the thread ...
... then the post might be worthwhile making.
I am a regular on the HTC Desire S forums - and all we seem to get at the moment are newbies asking the same
why doesn't the camera work?
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Why can't I use Wi-Fi Tether
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and so on - problems that are well known to exist in every ICS-based ROM on our platform.
These sort of questions just cause anger and waste time - both for the devs who are trying to do a fantastic job for free and the people who actually want to join in and have the capability to help the devs with testing and troubleshooting.
I hope that you understand a bit clearer now. I, personally, don't think the 10 post limit is enough. I don't believe any XDA member should be able to post into the dev threads unless they have been approved by at least one dev - based on previous posts, helping other users and general attitude.
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Gesendet von meinem GNote aus Berlin TTTT
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Aaaand stuff like these.
SimonTS said:
The restrictions make sense precisely because of that reason. The two posts you have made prior to this one are;-
Neither of those comments will be remotely useful to a developer or to a development thread.
If you were posting something along the lines of
and you had searched the thread fully to ensure that nobody else had reported the problem and it wasn't listed in the 'Known Issues' at the start of the thread ...
... then the post might be worthwhile making.
I am a regular on the HTC Desire S forums - and all we seem to get at the moment are newbies asking the same
and so on - problems that are well known to exist in every ICS-based ROM on our platform.
These sort of questions just cause anger and waste time - both for the devs who are trying to do a fantastic job for free and the people who actually want to join in and have the capability to help the devs with testing and troubleshooting.
I hope that you understand a bit clearer now. I, personally, don't think the 10 post limit is enough. I don't believe any XDA member should be able to post into the dev threads unless they have been approved by at least one dev - based on previous posts, helping other users and general attitude.
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You're absolutely right, and I apologize for the way I have written the comments, what happens is you get into the threads of the developers and people write what I wrote, and I've more or less copied. It's a very good forum and to continue so, and I apologize if I offended anyone has.
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You're absolutely right, and I apologize for the way I have written the comments, what happens is you get into the threads of the developers and people write what I wrote, and I've more or less copied. It's a very good forum and to continue so, and I apologize if I offended anyone has.
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No apology required mate - at least you understand now. I hope that you spend a long time with the community and gain half as much as I have done from it.
simply join conversations and contribute, that's all there is to it
don't fight the system, work with it :angel:
Tread Closed. I would recommend PMing a senior mod directly about this matter.
As im sure most of you all know, I have locked the Unofficial CM10 thread. It isnt because of one person or one event, but something that has been coming for a long time. I have been stressing myself with this build and making sure that everyone was happy and doing pretty much everything i could do, but it didnt seem to be enough. While i appreciate the feedback, it is very disappointing to release cm10.1 when pretty much no other phones have released it (due to the lack of source merged and changes necessary for jellybean 4.2.1) and have nothing but post after post of this doesnt work and this doesnt look right and this is running horrible and blah blah blah even after i made it absolutely clear time after time that there may be issues since there is alot of source changes that are missing. You would think that since i took the time to merge the needed changes and work tirelessly to make changes and get the changes merged into our device/kernel trees to get CM 10.1 built and IMO running nicely, there would be alot of positive feedback and alot of understanding from the community that there may be little issues here and there since not everything was completely merged in on the CM side, but that was not the case as everyone expects perfection right and nothing else. Anyways, with that said, Building CM10 was becoming more of a job instead of something fun that i loved to do. And believe me... I havent had nearly enough donations to be ok with considering this a job... Nor do i expect alot of donations and for those of you who have supported me, I greatly appreciate it. I WILL CONTINUE to build CM10 and posting new builds on my goo page found HERE. I will not however be unlocking the CM10 thread. So... If you like my work and like my builds, keep an eye on my goo page and download when you are notified there is an update. If you like the build, great... if not, flash something else.
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As im sure most of you all know, I have locked the Unofficial CM10 thread. It isnt because of one person or one event, but something that has been coming for a long time. I have been stressing myself with this build and making sure that everyone was happy and doing pretty much everything i could do, but it didnt seem to be enough. While i appreciate the feedback, it is very disappointing to release cm10.1 when pretty much no other phones have released it (due to the lack of source merged and changes necessary for jellybean 4.2.1) and have nothing but post after post of this doesnt work and this doesnt look right and this is running horrible and blah blah blah even after i made it absolutely clear time after time that there may be issues since there is alot of source changes that are missing. You would think that since i took the time to merge the needed changes and work tirelessly to make changes and get the changes merged into our device/kernel trees to get CM 10.1 built and IMO running nicely, there would be alot of positive feedback and alot of understanding from the community that there may be little issues here and there since not everything was completely merged in on the CM side, but that was not the case as everyone expects perfection right and nothing else. Anyways, with that said, Building CM10 was becoming more of a job instead of something fun that i loved to do. And believe me... I havent had nearly enough donations to be ok with considering this a job... Nor do i expect alot of donations and for those of you who have supported me, I greatly appreciate it. I WILL CONTINUE to build CM10 and posting new builds on my goo page found HERE. I will not however be unlocking the CM10 thread. So... If you like my work and like my builds, keep an eye on my goo page and download when you are notified there is an update. If you like the build, great... if not, flash something else.
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you have a charachter flaw. you're a people pleaser. once you get over that and become a true asshole you will be much happier in life.
Dani897 said:
you have a charachter flaw. you're a people pleaser. once you get over that and become a true asshole you will be much happier in life.
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Lol! So true!
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Just wanted to put my two cents in...I've been an avid user of the roms from this site for quite awhile now & have never felt the need to register because any issues I've ever had,I've been able to rectify with some searching or have been on roms that have clearly stated they were beta's & expected to have flaws. That being said...after watching what happened on your infuse board, I just wanted to let you know the fact that you're continuing to develop & keep our phones updated with the best features gave me the first true reason to register so I could say thanks...
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Thank You.
I don't blame Scott for having the thread closed, not one bit.
And Dani is correct, Scott's character flaw is only that he's missing the "asshole" gene that some tend to have.
Now on to the good part...
I'm getting back into the swing of things as far as porting and development goes. My first attempt is going to be a nearly pure AOSP build using Aries repos and some Maguro/Takju code base, with parts from the most recent CM10.1 base. I have an idea of what I want to incorporate, but it should be light and clean, with a smooth interface.
Scott, I will be in touch with you shortly on this, as I need to finish and finalize my SDK installs and get everything going correctly for a first build.
Just checked Scotts goo link. Can I safely assume the development continues? If so hallelujah the infuse lives on.
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Most of the people that posted just wanted insight on their issues. Personally, I posted there because I felt I wasn't getting any response in the Q&A thread.
I think we should learn from the miscommunication.
One of the bigger problems we faced was that the build thread was the most responsive place to get an answer, and the bugs people had weren't clearly documented somewhere (you can't tell someone to search 500+ pages, find a bug, match it to their build, etc) so they could find and know NOT to post about it.
Going forward, maybe we can have:
Build thread- keep updated on the status of the build
Bug thread- to review / report the current build bugs
Q&A thread- how do I rotate the screen, why is this doing that, etc
Thoughts?
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Most of the people that posted just wanted insight on their issues. Personally, I posted there because I felt I wasn't getting any response in the Q&A thread.
I think we should learn from the miscommunication.
One of the bigger problems we faced was that the build thread was the most responsive place to get an answer, and the bugs people had weren't clearly documented somewhere (you can't tell someone to search 500+ pages, find a bug, match it to their build, etc) so they could find and know NOT to post about it.
Going forward, maybe we can have:
Build thread- keep updated on the status of the build
Bug thread- to review / report the current build bugs
Q&A thread- how do I rotate the screen, why is this doing that, etc
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But Scott specifically asked multiple times not to post bugs on the 4.2/cm10.1 releases due to the fact that source is still being merged -cm said themselves that the 4.2 code would be buggy and that you probably wouldn't be able to build anything with it...for the most part Scott proved both of those wrong
However I do like the idea of the three threads
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Just checked Scotts goo link. Can I safely assume the development continues? If so hallelujah the infuse lives on.
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I WILL CONTINUE to build CM10 and posting new builds on my goo page found HERE. I will not however be unlocking the CM10 thread. So... If you like my work and like my builds, keep an eye on my goo page and download when you are notified there is an update. If you like the build, great... if not, flash something else.
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Yes, he will keep developing, but don't expect to see updates on this forum, which is a shame. His CM10 thread was actually the only reason I got on XDA.
Thanks for the update, Scott. Don't let the drama llamas get you down
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Most of the people that posted just wanted insight on their issues. Personally, I posted there because I felt I wasn't getting any response in the Q&A thread.
I think we should learn from the miscommunication.
One of the bigger problems we faced was that the build thread was the most responsive place to get an answer, and the bugs people had weren't clearly documented somewhere (you can't tell someone to search 500+ pages, find a bug, match it to their build, etc) so they could find and know NOT to post about it.
Going forward, maybe we can have:
Build thread- keep updated on the status of the build
Bug thread- to review / report the current build bugs
Q&A thread- how do I rotate the screen, why is this doing that, etc
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For the most part I agree with you. Its why I probably pissed a bunch of people off defending the late comers and those that just don't know about logcats and such.
However, it was stated multiple times by not just Scott but the more senior and knowledgeable members that the 4.2 was going to have problems.
I agree searching through 1000 plus posts can be a daunting task and maybe I just don't have a life but I've done it for every ICS/JB rom I've flashed.. But I was there at the beginning of that development so it made it easier. But you didn't have to read more than 2 pages between warnings for the 4.2.
I'm on Scott's side on this one.
If nothing else click on the op's profile and just read all their posts.
Personally I think only devs should be allowed to post on a dev thread but I don't see that happening anytime soon.
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I agree. I think there should be a minimum post count of 100 and a requirement to agree to a separate 'contract' to post in dev. threads. I read dev threads to find out what's going on in development not the rubbish that appears in most dev threads. The infuse forums have been fairly tolerant of this kind of thing. Other forums on xda, much less so.
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Changelog
I think another part of the problem is that very little actual development discussion happens here. It seems that people release their stuff here, and respond to bug reports, but that's about it. You can learn a lot about Linux by reading the archives of the Linux Kernel Mailing List (LKML). It's not quite the same situation here, learning about android is much harder (i have yet to find an android equivalent for the LKML)
Anyway, Thanks for continuing development! Will you be posting a change log between releases? I just like to know what I'm flashing ahead of time
Thanks,
woody
Scotts just released CM10.1 on goomanager 12/10 build go check it out
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Scott,
Glad to see you will be still be developing. Will there be some type of change log somewhere that we can view? I agree with some of the past. 500 pages of posts to read/search is alot. possibly a better brake down would have keep people posting in the correct places. Also with the 4.2 merge MY opionion would have been to make a separate thread as the last 4.1.2 was stable and really usable as its still my current daily. If the items arent merged maybe it isnt a good idea to even make a realease unless its to a few beta testers. That way 100s of people dont whine and complain about known or dumb issues.
Either way keeep up the good work.
Not sure how it would be accomplished, but a good idea would be to remove all posts from the cm10 thread and only scott could post in it (updates/changelog).
I have no idea how feasible that would be though.
Many thanks to scott
Hi scott, I never felt the need to comment in your thread because I never had any problems with your ROM.
But now I feel the need to comment here to express my gratitude for all the hard work that you have put into this ROM.
Your ROM is the first one that I tried, and also the best one I've seen/used. I'm VERY glad that you will continue your work for the Infuse.
Again, I thank you for your work, and I will be looking forward to future updates!
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His CM10 thread was actually the only reason I got on XDA.
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This^
hovin1988 said:
Hi scott, I never felt the need to comment in your thread because I never had any problems with your ROM.
But now I feel the need to comment here to express my gratitude for all the hard work that you have put into this ROM.
Your ROM is the first one that I tried, and also the best one I've seen/used. I'm VERY glad that you will continue your work for the Infuse.
Again, I thank you for your work, and I will be looking forward to future updates!
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And this^
I generally just read through the thread reading peoples issues if i ran into one rather than post. Issues were always sorted out if i kept reading. But thanks for all your hard work in creating roms, I know i'd be really bad off without them :good:
I think the communication and forum issues are simply a result of using a forum for "developer collaboration". Then to top it off, many are using tapatalk, which has the most useless search feature ever. I've heard the argument that a proper browser should be used, but many just won't.
As long as a forum is used for xda development, it will continue to be more like a ROM forum than anything else intended without ridiculous amounts of moderation (even judicious use of temp bans without warning).
Forums are good for arguing lol. Bugtrackers are good for tracking bugs, especially since they are easy to police. If you want feedback as well, make a special category for that. Duplicates and invalid reports can be easily identified and marked as such. For all other forums(general, q&a, accessories, etc.) a forum makes sense to me. For the development forum, a forum, IMO, makes little sense.
If the forum format is used in order to foster community, fine. You can expect a lot of drama, arguing, complaining, and everything else that goes along with it.
Just my opinion. I could be completely wrong.
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I have been starting to compile a list of ROMs that are not found on XDA for the clark (Pure/Style)... Note that due to some of the authors preference, there are no threads here, so out of respect this is just a pointer, not a discussion or support area for these ROMs, please use their official areas.
Here is a couple, know of anymore???
BrokenOS - Download link removed per BrokenOS FAQ
ZephyrOS - Downloads
NOTE: This thread does not supply links to ROM builds if it is specifically requested by the ROM owner, and we do not provide support for any ROM, or even reviews, it is just a reference to point you in the right direction to take care of things yourself. Do not PM me or any other person here about these ROMs. The owners of these ROMs do not post them here for a reason, this is just a reference so you can find them and it is not my intent to circumvent their reasons for not posting them here, or question their reasons.
BrokenOS may not appreciate you linking their ROM on XDA.
See attached pic.
It's what I run and their Google+ page is pretty particular about this.
I've never tried the Zephyr you linked.
Someone seems to not understand how the internets work.
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BrokenOS may not appreciate you linking their ROM on XDA.
See attached pic.
It's what I run and their Google+ page is pretty particular about this.
I've never tried the Zephyr you linked.
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I removed the download link, but I believe link to their main site is acceptable.
Zephyr I just found browsing AFH's clark area, really know nothing about it.
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This thread is a terrible idea.
Do you think the developers of those ROMs are somehow unaware of XDA's existence?
any review on BrokenOS @CZ Eddie?
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This thread is a terrible idea.
Do you think the developers of those ROMs are somehow unaware of XDA's existence?
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No, of course not... But many users of XDA are unaware of any these ROMs or how to look for them, or even if they should. My point is not to support or discuss these ROMs, that is best left for their official channels, but to make users aware there are options outside of XDA because many users think XDA has everything, and although it is a great resource, it is hardly all encompassing.
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any review on BrokenOS @CZ Eddie?
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This is not a thread to discuss or even review these ROMs, its only purpose is to make users who wouldn't otherwise know, aware of their existence.
It is a topic I tread lightly with... I do not want to step on people's toes but many people would never know some of these existed unless referred to somehow.
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I asked because he/she stated thats what they use. I wanted to know how it was.
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And those are the people the developers went out of their way to exclude.
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And those are the people the developers went out of their way to exclude.
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Actually, I don't think that's the case... Some developers just dislike XDA.
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It's ridiculous in the first place to publicly release a rom online and expect to keep the community limited. Obviously people will find it and share it on other more popular sites.
If these developers really wanted full control over their userbase their roms wouldn't be easily found through google searches.
It's on Google Plus. Available to anyone with a Google account.
They aren't hiding their ROM's from the public.
Not everyone likes XDA's rules and regulations.
I've been upset with XDA myself but never enough to leave.
Developers have even more strict rules to abide by and some dev's leave for various reasons.
XDA isn't the only Android community you know.
ROM development goes on at plenty of other websites.
I'm not sure why some of you don't understand that.
I'm not pointing at the OP btw, I for one appreciate the thread intentions.
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Btw, I trust ROM's from XDA more than other sites, specifically because of XDA's strict rules about open sourcing, etc.
I'm only on Broken ROM because I'm familiar with the team's development for a long time.
Otherwise I would not run any ROM from any other site.
Keeping your development closed source is not automatic grounds for suspicion but it does make a person wonder.
Someone asked for a review of Broken.
To someone who knows nothing about developing (me), it's 99% the same thing as Dirty Unicorn's ROM but uses the newer version of Layers instead of DU's CM theming. And it has more built in themed stuff. But options-wise it's very similar.
I won't talk about performance, battery or stability because it's all subjective and XDA does not like that type of comparison discussion because it's stupid and I agree with that.
acejavelin said:
Actually, I don't think that's the case... Some developers just dislike XDA.
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My impression is that the average IQ of XDA has dropped precipitously over the last few years, making threads here a never ending stream of the same, usually stupid, questions.
I wasn't aware that the rules here were particularly restrictive.
This thread is a nice idea, but if I was a dev running away from the general populace here, I'd be pissed at someone redirecting their numbskullery at me.
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My impression is that the average IQ of XDA has dropped precipitously over the last few years, making threads here a never ending stream of the same, usually stupid, questions.
I wasn't aware that the rules here were particularly restrictive.
This thread is a nice idea, but if I was a dev running away from the general populace here, I'd be pissed at someone redirecting their numbskullery at me.
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If a dev wanted to control who knows about, or talks about their ROM it would be easy... A site that requires a login and approval by them. I know of some of these "ghosts", but I won't link them (it wouldn't apply to this device anyway).
The two I linked are easy to find... BrokenOS specifically requests not to have their ROMs linked or distributed on any other site, and I did not do this, that is the only request I found, and their builds are clearly available on AFH. Zephyr OS is all over XDA, just no thread for our device, but someone is building it and I ran across it in AFH we'll browsing the Clark section.
These are good roms that the average user wouldn't know of otherwise, and if a legitimate rep for either asked for it to removed, I'd do it in a heartbeat.
Can't disagree with the general quality or apparently low IQ of many new users, when a simple search would answer many of these questions.
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I'd be pissed at someone redirecting their numbskullery at me.
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I laughed
Tesla...i could have swore I saw links to one for Clark once but have since vanished.. Would be really nice to see paranoid android make its way
Neez333 said:
Tesla...i could have swore I saw links to one for Clark once but have since vanished.. Would be really nice to see paranoid android make its way
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There is an unofficial Telsa build on Ground Zero ROMs G+ page in the unofficial section from about 6 weeks ago, but it looks like it had some issues and was never cleaned up or finished. Too bad, Tesla/Tipsy/Validus are great ROMs and super stable.
Paranoid Android is weird... years ago there were once builds for everything and it was often used as a base ROM for other builds, but now they have about 25 official devices and other than that I don't know, their website is pretty bad and there are no unofficial build listed at all, definitely no Clark build so far.
I don't think either is worth linking in the first post.
Is this broken rom decent? Not trying to read 5000 pages to find out general info about this ROM
I just downloaded and flashed it tonight. So far so good. Only thing I miss is ad blocking for YouTube. Other that it's very smooth and has advanced lte.
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NOTE: This is an exact copy of my post in the lineageOS section for the galaxy S8. The reason I am re-posting it here is because I want to get the word out to people who may not be taking note of that particular thread as some may consider it a dead thread. I hope this is not considered spamming, the only copy of this post is here and in the lineageos section for the S8, I will not be posting it anywhere else. Thank you.
I have been using XDA for years but have mainly been using the roms that other dev's have built and also looking for answers to any questions I had to potential problems throughout the years. I have never felt the need to create an account as I felt I had nothing to offer, everything that I could do was already being done by someone else and I don't post questions because 99% of the time a quick google of the error code or problem will turn up an answer either on here or somewhere else. Anyway, I have been using the s8 for a while and have been running renovate ICE 11.1 stable which is an absolutely brilliant ROM, huge hat tipping to the dev's for that, it's such a shame it's heading the way it is. I have been looking into running lineageOS but as you all probably know, the unoffical ports are not good and have been left in alpha stage for a long time which is sad, especially as people donated money to have that done. So, I am going to port it myself, only because I want to run it myself, however, I figured that I may as well release it for everyone instead of being selfish and keeping it just for myself. I will probably never use this XDA account again after I post the ROM so this is just a shout out to let people know that they should watch my account if they are after lineage 15.1 for the s8 G950F.
Thanks for reading.
EDIT: Later than I said but here it is.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/general/lineageos-14-1-8-5-18-t3825172
Thanks dude, I'm really interested in following this work, where is the main post? Or how can I follow the progress?
Same here. How can i follow the progress? Is it still ongoing progress?
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Thanks dude, I'm really interested in following this work, where is the main post? Or how can I follow the progress?
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...-unofficial-lineageos-14-1-galaxy-s8-t3684397 -- Page 60 is where I originally posted. I'll re-post on there when it's done.
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...-unofficial-lineageos-14-1-galaxy-s8-t3684397 -- Page 60 is where I originally posted. I'll re-post on there when it's done.
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Do you have a github?
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Do you have a github?
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I do, however I won't be sharing it, sorry. I've only created this account to share the ROM and, after it's completed, I will be dropping this account I am using here. I hope you understand.
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I do, however I won't be sharing it, sorry. I've only created this account to share the ROM and, after it's completed, I will be dropping this account I am using here. I hope you understand.
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Of course. Good luck
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...-unofficial-lineageos-14-1-galaxy-s8-t3684397 -- Page 60 is where I originally posted. I'll re-post on there when it's done.
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Yeh! That's the message I saw bfr, ok I'll ve following that post thx
is this still on?
AnorthosisPaok said:
is this still on?
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I am currently working on it, it should be another week or so.
What's working so far?
When will there be a full release with the major features working?
Later than I said but here it is.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/general/lineageos-14-1-8-5-18-t3825172
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Later than I said but here it is.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/general/lineageos-14-1-8-5-18-t3825172
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The zip is void
Scammer?
So this was it? He had his money donated and poof like a sneaky scammer?Nice blowjob....smh
I don't have enough posts to make a thread in ROMS section so, to make myself useful while I'm at it, feel free to ask me anything. When I have the permissions, I will get a thread there.
what's working?
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what's working?
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I'm sorry it has been so long, I've really forgotten about this post.
As far as I'm concerned, everything works, besides vibration motor being kinda weak for whatever reason
This has got to be the most baffling thread I have ever read. Did you actually get it working or are you just making believe? Are you going to share a build with us ever?
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This has got to be the most baffling thread I have ever read. Did you actually get it working or are you just making believe? Are you going to share a build with us ever?
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I'd be right happy to, but being a newbie to XDA prevents me from doing so. I've posted the ROM multiple times in moto g7 telegram channel, if you want to check it out, go there. Until I get 10 replies, no luck for xda
Well, anyway, here's the latest message. And here're sources. When I get the chance, I'll do 4.0 with android 10 base, but for now, this is all I can offer.
I do apologize for my skepticism! I had no way of knowing about your Telegram until now. Thanks for sharing!
Now that I have enough replies, I've made a thread in ROMs, this marks this one as closed
Are you doing oS 4? \(^o^)/
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Are you doing oS 4? \(^o^)/
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The thread in ROM's section already has Koli ported, and I might consider making a few more builds in the near future
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The thread in ROM's section already has Koli ported, and I might consider making a few more builds in the near future
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Awesome. Gonna check it tonight. Been wanting to try sailfish for a while, and now I have a reason to power up the old G7!