Moto G hat internal microSD!? - Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello,
the German Site "Areamobile.de" did a Teardown of the Motorola Moto G and guess what, they found a shield looking like there is a Micro SD Card behind it. They had not enough courage to look deeper in to it (tze) and so they asked a Motorola Service Partner which approved their guess and so yes it is true! There is a internal SD Card in the Moto G, but as they claim you can not change it as there are many important parts on the micro SD Card and if you switch the SD-Card only authorized Service Partners can upload a new Software on the Moto G.
What I think, if you open up the shield and replace the SD Card, going in to RSD Lite Mode, you can flash a Stock Firmware Image and everything should be fine.
Some one should look deeper in to it!
Picture Source: http://www.areamobile.de/b/2267-teardown-das-moto-g-und-die-speicher-frage-update#g.2267.25.3800
Regards,
Gamer (uhh and don't look at all that typos as I am only working with school english)

There is not a micro SD card under the shield.

Interesting find it does show a micro sd card under the shield but in the pic the card is upside down so not connecting to and interface like someone just placed the card there to prove a card resides there.

Bisschen spät dran, Gamer...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2538205
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Gamer, you are somewhat late

I am now extremely interested in the guts of my phone. Also, your English is fine.

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Some dev ideas...

Got my Touch Pro coming in a couple of days and was just thinking over things.
First thing that came to mind... Since the whole back cover comes off for battery and card access, any possibilities of replacement, uniform backs... I'm not overly fussed on the faceted style and would much prefer a flat, rubber textured back. Any vacuum formers out there...?
Second thing. Does anything like this exist... Imagine if you will a standard micro SD card but instead of having memory inside it is basically a plug. From the back of it comes a flexible ribbon cable that attaches to a slim hub that in turn takes at least 2 micro SD cards (3 or 4 would be even better). Is such a thing possible? Just thinking since 16GB cards are expensive whereas 8GB seem quite cheap, the ability to plug in multiple cards but the controller card presenting them as a single storage device or possibly virtual directories within a single device would be great.
Also, putting the two ideas together, since the Touch Pro back is a whole unit and could effectively be made deeper (if someone decided to make a custom case back) then, since the Touch Pro micro SD card is beneath this cover then such a micro SD hub could mount underneath it...
Ho hum, all this waiting...
Why not go the whole hod and have a replacement back that is a normal SD card reader?
Assuming microSD cards are the same as SD cards, that means there is a chip select (CS) line which needs to be held active when reading and writing to the chip, this is used to select the memory card, knowing this means it would not be possible to have multiple cards as you couldn't switch between them without an extra IO port available on the microprocessor (and I'm sure HTC aren't releasing the schematics any time soon).
Was just thinking aloud...
With regards the multiple cards, was thinking that the electronics in the 'plug' would take care of mouting the individual cards and presenting them alltogether as one to the device, i.e. the device wouldn't be aware of anything.

SD to MICRO SD Converter Mod

Hi Everyone,
As it is taking so long to get real 32GB Micro SD's on the market I was wondering if anyone would be interested in buying a SD to MICRO SD converters.
This converters will not be just some wires solder together...but a converter that is nicely packaged.
Provide me with some feedback on the idea.
umm, how could that possibly work? you can't convert something so its smaller
Well maybe I did not state it correctly...
I mean a converter that will allow you to use a standard SD card into a micro sd slot...it will most likely be made of an external connector for the standard SD card then wire it down to a micro sd slot..
I work for an electronics manufacturing company and I may be able to convince my boss to do a test line of a couple...
But before I ask I wanted to see if there is any interest???
I have a Nexus one and really do not want to keep waiting for the 32GB Micro SD...then I do not want to pay $200.00 for it.
So i am thinking if people are interested a converter that can hold a standard SD that is no more that 4MM thick then you can shop around for a 32GB standard SD card for about $75.00 and have 32GB of storage for your nexus or other device...
Again just checking for input...
I'd would be interested, but I don't think there is going to be enough room to fit it and still put the back on!
tomfreay said:
I'd would be interested, but I don't think there is going to be enough room to fit it and still put the back on!
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Hi tomfreay I was was thinking about that...it may have to be something that mounts on the outside of the back cover...if it can be made to be flush against the back cover...I envision a small "bump" on the back...
I use a clear silicone case for my phone so I do not think it will look to bad....
Or I can buy a Seidio extended battery and case..this should allow me to hide the converter inside...but I think it may look worse than just having a little standard SD size bump on the back of the phone...
I will ask my boss to explore one then take pictures of the finished product and post...
Someone has done this already with one of the convertors already available
Kman Gymrat said:
Someone has done this already with one of the converters already available
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OK...so where can I buy one? And how much?
32GB Micro SD cards are available and have been for a month or two at least - check out http://www.google.co.uk/products?q=...esult_group&ct=title&resnum=3&ved=0CDgQrQQwAg
Can't see any kind of converter fitting well with the phone and still looking good. Also it would probably reduce transfer speeds to/from the card.
At this stage I can't say I'd recommend getting a 32GB Micro SD card for that matter. Better to stick with one that has a smaller capacity/higher data transfer speed if you don't want to slow down gallery/music apps etc - something between 4GB and 16GB.
See this post...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6289541&postcount=101
joeearl13 said:
32GB Micro SD cards are available and have been for a month or two at least - check out http://www.google.co.uk/products?q=...esult_group&ct=title&resnum=3&ved=0CDgQrQQwAg
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All 32 gig cards in the link you provided are out of stock.
Ya, if you don't know what you're talking about...
joeearl13 said:
32GB Micro SD cards are available and have been for a month or two at least - check out http://www.google.co.uk/products?q=...esult_group&ct=title&resnum=3&ved=0CDgQrQQwAg
Can't see any kind of converter fitting well with the phone and still looking good. Also it would probably reduce transfer speeds to/from the card.
At this stage I can't say I'd recommend getting a 32GB Micro SD card for that matter. Better to stick with one that has a smaller capacity/higher data transfer speed if you don't want to slow down gallery/music apps etc - something between 4GB and 16GB.
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DUDE. Seriously. How many times do people have to be told that a PHONE will not be able to saturate a Class 2 (which has a MINIMUM of 2MB/s NOT MAXIMUM) MicroSD card. Classes, DO NOT MATTER when the phone can only access the card as fast as the chipset can. I had a Class 6 with Apps2SD and a Class 2 16GB with Apps2SD and there was NO DIFFERENCE even with the biggest movie file I could play.
Why the crap would you think that less than 1 inch of copper would slow down the transfer rate to anything you can see?? GIVE. ME. A. BREAK. I have 2 METERS of USB cord AND a 2 inch USB cord hooked up to a portable harddrive, and they have IDENTICAL speeds with the same hardware, why would you be able to tell the difference on a phone where that is not even close to being a bottleneck.
Listen, this is important: SD Card Class will NEVER be a bottleneck for any media on our Nexus Ones.
Ya, true; my converter looks terrible, but it fits under a very nice looking Casemate Vroom Case perfectly I would totally recommend one if you're going to get a MicroSD to SD.
Hi Everyone,
I have posted some pictures of my SD to MicroSD Converter and how it looks once it is installed.
Not bad, would be tempted by it if I needed a lot of storage.
well, if we gonna make our n1 bigger.. is that possible to make raid of two 32GB SDHC cards?
reddog said:
Hi Everyone,
I have posted some pictures of my SD to MicroSD Converter and how it looks once it is installed.
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Nice Job. DocRambone was going to try this with the 3200mAH battery and cover but I dont know if he was successful.
The custom back-cover that comes with it should have room for this.
ps: Can you post the pics in the OP so its easy to find, thanks.
britoso said:
Nice Job. DocRambone was going to try this with the 3200mAH battery and cover but I dont know if he was successful.
The custom back-cover that comes with it should have room for this.
ps: Can you post the pics in the OP so its easy to find, thanks.
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Hi Britoso..I was think about putting out the money for the 3200mAH battery...but then I found the case for it was too big...
The mod that I did is something that I think a lot of people can live with..its not ugly..the crystal case fits...and the grip of the phone has changed a little..I find it feels a little better.
Forgive my ignorance I have been on this site for several years now and still do not know everything...what do you mean by "OP"..set me straight and I will place the pictures there..
To All...
Again with this mod the cover slides off like it should...I put a small slit in the cover for the flex cable...and placed protective tape on both sides of the flex cable to prevent damage.
So at the most I just have to buy a new back cover and return the phone to OEM condition.
Oh I did shaved the battery a little by the MicroSD slot area...
If anyone is really interested in this converter let me know...like I said...$200.00+ for a 32GB Mirco SD card...I have seen them selling for $395.00..no way I say.
This mod ran me $82.00 for the 32GB standard class 10 card and $35.00 in parts.. Grand total of $117.00 for massive storage...I say the little bump on the back is worth it..phone can quickly be restored to OEM..
Maybe in 1.5 years from now when 32GB MicroSD cards come down to earth....I will get one..then I will just use my 32GB Class 10 Standard SD in a HD camcorder...
If it fits inside the battery cover it will be safer from movement, dust, drops etc.
OP= Original Post, the first post
You can also Add "Mod" to the title, need to go into the advanced edit mode for that.
britoso said:
If it fits inside the battery cover it will be safer from movement, dust, drops etc.
OP= Original Post, the first post
You can also Add "Mod" to the title, need to go into the advanced edit mode for that.
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OK..its done..thanks for the lesson..
andjohn said:
DUDE. Seriously. How many times do people have to be told that a PHONE will not be able to saturate a Class 2 (which has a MINIMUM of 2MB/s NOT MAXIMUM) MicroSD card. Classes, DO NOT MATTER when the phone can only access the card as fast as the chipset can. I had a Class 6 with Apps2SD and a Class 2 16GB with Apps2SD and there was NO DIFFERENCE even with the biggest movie file I could play.
Why the crap would you think that less than 1 inch of copper would slow down the transfer rate to anything you can see?? GIVE. ME. A. BREAK. I have 2 METERS of USB cord AND a 2 inch USB cord hooked up to a portable harddrive, and they have IDENTICAL speeds with the same hardware, why would you be able to tell the difference on a phone where that is not even close to being a bottleneck.
Listen, this is important: SD Card Class will NEVER be a bottleneck for any media on our Nexus Ones.
Ya, true; my converter looks terrible, but it fits under a very nice looking Casemate Vroom Case perfectly I would totally recommend one if you're going to get a MicroSD to SD.
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If this rant is true, you make me feel a lot better for buying a class 2 16gig card.
andjohn said:
DUDE. Seriously. How many times do people have to be told that a PHONE will not be able to saturate a Class 2 (which has a MINIMUM of 2MB/s NOT MAXIMUM) MicroSD card. Classes, DO NOT MATTER when the phone can only access the card as fast as the chipset can. I had a Class 6 with Apps2SD and a Class 2 16GB with Apps2SD and there was NO DIFFERENCE even with the biggest movie file I could play...
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BTW, "class" on a (micro)sd card is for measuring _write_ speed only. Hence playing a video will test precisely nothing relating to it's class rating.
And yes, the N1 can saturate the write speed on a Class 2 card _very_ easily.
Anyone still looking for an adapter. I found this:
http://www.ameri-rack.com/APA-TFC1m.html
They sell this directly for around $24 + shipping.

[Q] Easy way to access Camera/Video Files

I have a business trip coming up and wanted to trial out the Xoom as a laptop replacement. Part of the job involves taking many pictures and possibly video of product samples and then sorting through those samples. The Xoom's built in cameras aren't really up to the job so the problem for me is how to get the images onto the xoom in the first place since Moto seems to think a ten inch device can't is too small to handle a regular sized SD card. Is it too early too hope to be able to attach external storage like an card adapter?

Is moto a company really know the minor needs from the cusotmer?

http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/09/motorolas-4-3-inch-photon-4g-brings-tegra-2-kickstand-magic-to/
Camera button/big internal storage/kick stand
Those are what I want exactly from htc sensation.
Nice to have more competitors.
What is the problem with getting a micro-sd of the size you want or need for storage? It would be huge minus for a phone to not be able to use external card reader. Kickstand? Well...

Do Micro SD cards slow down overall/general phone performance?

Hello!
I just had a few questions regarding Micro SD cards and I wanted to get some of your opinions on the matter.
I work in the mobile phone industry. My coworker and I were discussing (maybe a bit of arguing) the inclusion of the SD card slot inside the Galaxy S7 and whether it's a good idea. He's under the very passionate impression that Samsung made a huge mistake incuding the slot in the S7, which is very contrary to my opinion.
His reasoning is that having an SD card in your phone decreases general speed/performance and that it's an obsolete feature. I've never had an issue with SD cards in my experience. I can perhaps imagine that the class of SD card may make a slight difference. I know transfer speeds vary but I don't agree that it slows the phone down during normal processes.
Do you think the SD card or just memory cards in general will eventually become a thing of the past or do you think that expandable storage will always be a viable option at least in the forseeable future?
Sorry, I posted this in the wrong section. Feel free to delete.

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