[Q] Nexus devices take forever when "android is upgrading" - Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

This is just an observation. Wondering if anyone else has noticed. I've had a Gnex, Nex4 then an HTC One. Now I'm back to Nexus with the 5. I only noticed this because I had the HTC One for a little bit. That things flies through this process. I just assumed it was because it had a faster processor and faster in general. But now that I've had the Nex5 for a few weeks, I see the slow "upgrading" process. The Nex5 has a faster processor with the Snapdragon 800. vs the 600 on HTC One. Of course, this is not life altering stuff. But does anyone have some insight?

big blue said:
This is just an observation. Wondering if anyone else has noticed. I've had a Gnex, Nex4 then an HTC One. Now I'm back to Nexus with the 5. I only noticed this because I had the HTC One for a little bit. That things flies through this process. I just assumed it was because it had a faster processor and faster in general. But now that I've had the Nex5 for a few weeks, I see the slow "upgrading" process. The Nex5 has a faster processor with the Snapdragon 800. vs the 600 on HTC One. Of course, this is not life altering stuff. But does anyone have some insight?
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Are you using ART or dalvik
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Whatever comes stock. I've seen some talk about that. But haven't taken the time to learn the difference.
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Android The Greek said:
Are you using ART or dalvik
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That's my first thought too. I'm using ART and it definitely feels like it is taking a longer time spent on each app.

Android The Greek said:
Are you using ART or dalvik
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Interesting... I just read up on it. I haven't changed the runtime setting. So I'm using dalvic. I may try ART.

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Considered selling your HOX for a Nexus 4?

Well, have you? I have. I know I can get at least $325 for it if not the full $350.
I feel like it's a bit of a downgrade but I'd like other opinions. (vanilla is looking pretty nice with JB so distant still)
OK. What's the major difference, honestly?
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OK. What's the major difference, honestly?
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Vanilla android. Which is a big difference over stock. I have a Nexus 7 and I love the UI.
More battery and more RAM.
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Cm10 is pretty close to vanilla. If that's your only reason for switching then so be it. I have one reason why I won't switch. And once that is remedied I'm going to nexus permanently.
4G LTE.
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absolutelygrim said:
Cm10 is pretty close to vanilla. If that's your only reason for switching then so be it. I have one reason why I won't switch. And once that is remedied I'm going to nexus permanently.
4G LTE.
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I'm not comfortable using CM10 unless by now it's finished or much more stable. Do you recommend it?
jphilippon said:
I'm not comfortable using CM10 unless by now it's finished or much more stable. Do you recommend it?
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I haven't used cm10 yet. But aokp is extremely stable and has a lot of customization.
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absolutelygrim said:
I haven't used cm10 yet. But aokp is extremely stable and has a lot of customization.
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Mind sending me a link to the ROM you're talking about?
I was considering trying this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33583071
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Not that performance is not already enough on the ONE X but doesn't the Nexus 4 have a quad core S4 and a significantly more powerful GPU. This makes it about twice as fast as the HOX already and it has a bigger battery and vanilla android and will get the newest Android OS'.
My biggest concern is storage size at 8GB or 16GB isn't much and it just doesn't look as nice as the white HOX.
The fact that it's made by LG turns me off. The HOX is awesome in its own right and I think Sense is great in terms of usability. HTC has come a very long way with refining Sense into what it is now (remember Sense 2.0 and 2.1? *shudder*).
I've had the Tegra 3 version of the HOX, sure the 'benchmarks' said it was better, but in actual usage, the dual-core S3 spanked it. On top of that, LTE! Only time I will ever get a Nexus device is if it is from HTC though.
I'm buying one, but I'm not selling my HOX.
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I'm not comfortable using CM10 unless by now it's finished or much more stable. Do you recommend it?
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I can recommend it. Been runny nightly builds for about 2 months now, never had any major problems (the occasional reboot or something) but everything works great.
I considered switching, but like the verge review pointed out, the lack of LTE is a hard thing to drop. Stock 4.2 would be really nice, but I bet it'll be available soon (either AOKP or CM10) and I'll just keep my superfast LTE.
No.
Please stop these alternate phone threads.
WR
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Athrun88 said:
The fact that it's made by LG turns me off.
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Me too. LG phones feel and look cheap. They've gotten better recently, but still not up to par with HTC or even Samsung. I'd be interested in a new Nexus phone, but not from LG.
Weren't they talking at one point about 4 or more Nexus devices coming out by years end?
now that i have had a chance to red some reviews i think im going to pass on this
but im going to stick with my HOX and see what comes out in the new year
jphilippon said:
Well, have you? I have. I know I can get at least $325 for it if not the full $350.
I feel like it's a bit of a downgrade but I'd like other opinions. (vanilla is looking pretty nice with JB so distant still)
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Thought about it, but I couldn't live without LTE. HSPA+ in San Diego is a laughable joke. A lot of times I can't even stream music when I am driving.
CheesyNutz said:
now that i have had a chance to red some reviews i think im going to pass on this
but im going to stick with my HOX and see what comes out in the new year
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which reviews dissuaded you? they all seem to only harp on the lack of LTE but to be honest, I don't get LTE where I live anyway.

Widgets

People what are you're opinions ?
Basically iPad owners always talk about the system and software being smooth,which is probably true, and how Android maybe slightly laggy, well,could the problem lie in widgets?
Meaning without them would android run any smoother, because once you put say 2 or 3 widgets on one screen,it lags,just wanted your opinions thanks.
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People what are you're opinions ?
Basically iPad owners always talk about the system and software being smooth,which is probably true, and how Android maybe slightly laggy, well,could the problem lie in widgets?
Meaning without them would android run any smoother, because once you put say 2 or 3 widgets on one screen,it lags,just wanted your opinions thanks.
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I din find any lag on mine. I have all the 6 or 7 homescreens full of widgets. In JB, the lag has been drastically reduced! (ics being the most laggy)
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Lifehacker7 said:
I din find any lag on mine. I have all the 6 or 7 homescreens full of widgets. In JB, the lag has been drastically reduced! (ics being the most laggy)
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Yeh definitely much smoother, than ICS, ditching widgets would surely save ram loads wouldn't it?
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Since I went to JB lag and sense reloads are not near as bad, but I can't seem to get friendstream to work.
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Yeh definitely much smoother, than ICS, ditching widgets would surely save ram loads wouldn't it?
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Ya. But not to a great extent (unless u have a animated or self refreshing kinda widget)!
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Nexus 5 vs. HTC One performance experience question.

I know these threads drive people nuts. I'm a phone junky. Over the last 2 years I've had at least 4 phones. Although i've had my HTC One since launch day - coming up on one year.
I hate skins on android. That's why I root and install an AOSP based ROM on my devices. I also like battery life and A2DP Bluetooth streaming.
So...anyone out there think the nexus is a worthwhile upgrade?. I'm already running KitKat. Software is no advantage the Nexus has. However... Is the Nexus a worthy upgrade? I have read that battery life was disappointing at launch. Is it still bad? What does the N5 offer over my One?
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You're comparing a 350-400 dollar phone I suggest keeping g that 500-600$ MSRP phone you have..
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I had the One before the N5. Nothing wrong with the One, but honestly the only thing I miss is the speakers. I personally like the bigger screen, and I'm getting better battery life now. Overall better experience, imo.
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bbabiuk said:
I know these threads drive people nuts. I'm a phone junky. Over the last 2 years I've had at least 4 phones. Although i've had my HTC One since launch day - coming up on one year.
I hate skins on android. That's why I root and install an AOSP based ROM on my devices. I also like battery life and A2DP Bluetooth streaming.
So...anyone out there think the nexus is a worthwhile upgrade?. I'm already running KitKat. Software is no advantage the Nexus has. However... Is the Nexus a worthy upgrade? I have read that battery life was disappointing at launch. Is it still bad? What does the N5 offer over my One?
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My 2 cents give the nexus the skip.
i had the htc one and the gs4.. sold my htc one to get the gs4.. then sold my gs4 to get the nexus 5.. i think the n5 is way better the both the gs4 and one.. thats just me.. this is my first nexus phone i love it.. i been threw like 6 top of the line phone in the past 3 yaers.. htc evo 4g.. htc evo 3d.. htc evo 4g LTE.. GS3. HTC ONE.. GS4... Nexus 5 is my fev phone out of all of them
I went from the GS4 to the N5 and haven't regretted it for a second. Out of 12 phones that I've owned over the last 3-4 years, this is easily the best one.
Get the N5 and keep the One.
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qbanlinxx said:
I had the One before the N5. Nothing wrong with the One, but honestly the only thing I miss is the speakers. I personally like the bigger screen, and I'm getting better battery life now. Overall better experience, imo.
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So comparatively...battery life is on par?
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Let me tell you a story:
Once upon a time, there was a guy who wanted an awesome new android phone. He decided to buy an HTC amaze as that was probably the best phone on the market at the time. He got it 1 month after the phone came out on the market and it was awesome. He enjoyed using it for 9 mos. before HTC decided to stop supporting their FLAGSHIP phone! Alas that phone was relegated to ICS forever.
Then, his girlfriend wanted a new phone and he thought, well, maybe it was just my bad luck to buy the HTC amaze right before HTC decided to realign their phone offerings. The HTC One S looks very good and it has the latest snapdragon S4 chip in it. So he bought her that phone and 9 mos later, HTC announces no more updates after android 4.1.2!
Moral of the story: stick with HTC one if you want an obsolete android OS in 1 year.
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bbabiuk said:
So comparatively...battery life is on par?
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I'm getting an extra 2 hours of SOT
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one phone i'd trade for is the samsung note 3! give me that anyday over the nex5
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So comparatively...battery life is on par?
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Battery life is as good or better. I still have my One and mainly use it to play music, but the Nexus outperforms it in every way and also seems to have a better antenna than the One. Plus, the Nexus has ART which I know is not supported on the HTC One because of Sense.
It's a very worthy upgrade. I do miss the speakers, Aux Sound Output, and sometimes a few 'Sense' things like BlinkFeed and the features in the stock messaging app.
I was in the same Situation like you and i dont regret getting the n5 at all. I had the GpE of the one and still the n5 beats it by a longshot. Speakers and build quality aside the n5 wins everything
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Radixtrator said:
I was in the same Situation like you and i dont regret getting the n5 at all. I had the GpE of the one and still the n5 beats it by a longshot. Speakers and build quality aside the n5 wins everything
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Thanks. I have been teetering. I likely will order an N5. I'm going to wait another couple weeks first as a sanity check. But I seriously an leaning towards buying it.
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GGWC808 said:
Let me tell you a story:
Once upon a time, there was a guy who wanted an awesome new android phone. He decided to buy an HTC amaze as that was probably the best phone on the market at the time. He got it 1 month after the phone came out on the market and it was awesome. He enjoyed using it for 9 mos. before HTC decided to stop supporting their FLAGSHIP phone! Alas that phone was relegated to ICS forever.
Then, his girlfriend wanted a new phone and he thought, well, maybe it was just my bad luck to buy the HTC amaze right before HTC decided to realign their phone offerings. The HTC One S looks very good and it has the latest snapdragon S4 chip in it. So he bought her that phone and 9 mos later, HTC announces no more updates after android 4.1.2!
Moral of the story: stick with HTC one if you want an obsolete android OS in 1 year.
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Software doesn't concern me. I hate running skinned android. I root and flash custom ROMs. I mainly want to know if the new device will yield a better experience...
Battery life
Performance
I get the sound will not be on par with my One...the boom speakers are great.
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I had the HTC One before the Nexus 5 as well,and I love the Nexus. The One is a great phone, but the One has 1) A faster chipset 2) bigger screen 3) STOCK Android (yay!!!)
However, if you're satisfied with your One.. just keep it. Unless you're dead set on having stock Android. The One does have some nice features, like the speakers (yes, stereo speakers) and very good build quality, compared to the Nexus 5 at least, which doesn't seem to fit together perfectly like the One.
As for battery life, I would say it's about equal. They both have the same size battery.
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Thanks. I have been teetering. I likely will order an N5. I'm going to wait another couple weeks first as a sanity check. But I seriously an leaning towards buying it.
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Good luck getting a 90% working ROM for the phone once htc stops supporting it. The Amaze and One S ROMs all have major things broken on it, whether it is Bluetooth or camera or something else not working or not working correctly. So I would say software for HTC phones are important.
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GGWC808 said:
Good luck getting a 90% working ROM for the phone once htc stops supporting it. The Amaze and One S ROMs all have major things broken on it, whether it is Bluetooth or camera or something else not working or not working correctly. So I would say software for HTC phones are important.
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The HTC One does have the benefit of being a GE supported device. Can't predict how that'll play out yet. Besides that, you statement is accurate. I came from ATT with and Atrix4g... the hardware is still great. But zero software support from the OEM and all the ROMs available aren't DD material for someone that uses their phone as part of business.
Hence the move to my HTC One on Sprint/Ting... Just to find out that I should have bought a cheap used nexus s and waited for a N5. :/
The way that I understand the GPE phones work is that Google releases the operating system to HTC and then they optimize it to work with their phone before they push out an update. So updates still have to pass through HTC. If they decide to end support for the one, I doubt they'll continue supporting the GPE phone.
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The way that I understand the GPE phones work is that Google releases the operating system to HTC and then they optimize it to work with their phone before they push out an update. So updates still have to pass through HTC. If they decide to end support for the one, I doubt they'll continue supporting the GPE phone.
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That's just it. Even though the UI of the GPE One is all Google, it actually uses the stock Sense kernel. Once HTC stops updating the phone, it stops for the Google Edition as well.

This needed to be said. HTC one to Nexus 5

Okay people. I'm closing in on a whole week with the n5. After being mugged for my htc one. The change to nexus was a bit sad. On paper the htc one is better in many ways. But in reality. I'm happier now. Here is why
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The nexus 5 is being show a lot of support. That alone s enough to take all the pain of getting ripped off away.
Clean slate.
The nexus 5 is nearly free of bulk. Its the pefect device to mod. Just unlock the boot loader. No Odin. No s off. No tegra recovery flashers.
But the most un talked about reason. Its not an android. Its the android. Directly from the mothership. Its like having the Jordan's that Jordan actually used! Not just ones designed for his fans. Its the tobacco from the Indians themselves!. Pizza from Italy!. An actual Mexican taco!. 1970s muscle!. Not today's! Its.. its.. Its Nexus 5!!!...
... That's as lame as it gets people. Thanx for all the help
-whozilla
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Wow.
So I am waiting for my N5 to come in... Replacing a HTC One XL... I am really looking forward to finally having a Google Phone.
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Wow.
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Them brownies dude. Fractured ankle and a new phone. What do you think I'm doing haha:beer:
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lol i like the Jordan reference. Nice man
Thanks for this info.
How is the battery compared to the HTC One?
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Thanks for this info.
How is the battery compared to the HTC One?
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Honestly a lot of people say its terrible but after installing a custom rom and and kernal. Couple CPU modifications and poof. Better than stock HTC one
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ooh dunno about that boss - I think the htc one is far better with the stock rom. I had my nexus 5 for 3 days and got rid. issues I had were the battery been ****, hated the way it left smudgy fingerprints on the screen unlike the htc and the camera was terrible.
now granted I had one of the very first ones and I think the camera issue has been improved but build quality wise the htc feels better in my opinion
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But the most un talked about reason. Its not an android. Its the android. Directly from the mothership. Its like having the Jordan's that Jordan actually used! Not just ones designed for his fans. Its the tobacco from the Indians themselves!. Pizza from Italy!. An actual Mexican taco!. 1970s muscle!. Not today's! Its.. its.. Its Nexus 5!!!...
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Um, yes, and is was made by LG...
So why not trying HTC One Google Edition?
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Honestly a lot of people say its terrible but after installing a custom rom and and kernal. Couple CPU modifications and poof. Better than stock HTC one
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Did you try tweaking the HTC One battery usage?
TF101 KatKiss. SGS2 Stock.
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Um, yes, and is was made by LG...
So why not trying HTC One Google Edition?
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Um. Because its not the um nexus. Um developers um don't care what edition um It um is. Nexus is backed by the support I crave. Nexus5 its the android phone.
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I do like HTC one design, but the good thing about Google phones like Nexus 5 is that you get any future Android Upgrades.

Upgrade suggestions?

So the blaze is now over 2 years old... we've seen a lot of our xda brothers that once contributed and were active users leave the blaze threads, only few remain and things have really slowed down here, these threads just aren't as live and booming as they used to be, well I've been eligible for an upgrade for a while now, so anyone have any suggestions?
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So the blaze is now over 2 years old... we've seen a lot of our xda brothers that once contributed and were active users leave the blaze threads, only few remain and things have really slowed down here, these threads just aren't as live and booming as they used to be, well I've been eligible for an upgrade for a while now, so anyone have any suggestions?
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well i will say go for nexus devices...peferably nexus 5...always first to get updates and great at hardware part too...u get pure android experience along with lots of options as the sources are always out there and nothing like touchwiz or sense messing up the developement...the developement is most active in those devices and sources are always there taken directly from google repos
Well, I'm moving soon and I need a different phone since I don't have 4g over there. Im looking at the lg g2, since it has one of the best batteries and its not too big. It's LG's flagship and I like the knock on feature!
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I'd recommend getting the Nexus 5. As I am a fan of AOSP it's outstanding. Performance is great, haven't had any trouble with any lags (well exaggerating much lol) and it just feels right for me. 2.26 GHz is just amazing. Unlike the Blaze it has 16 GB of memory which is great for having the big applications. 8MP camera could be better, but it's still outstanding.
When I was ready for upgrade it was between nexus 5 and moto x. I chose moto x and have had no issues. CM11 and other ROMs are being developed
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OR you can wait for Project Ara to come out early next year! For sure getting it!
Thanks to those who have given me suggestions originally I was thinking something mainstream and well known like a flagship phone like the S5 or something like that but is their price tag really worth it or is there a better not as well known phone? Kinda like how the blaze basically was a smaller S2? I mean I'm looking for a Samsung, LG, or Motorola? Price isn't a problem I just want long lasting battery life, performance, 4G / LTE, A Good Camera and A Reasonable Storage Space? Any new suggestions?
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Moto G?
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Jserrano56 said:
Thanks to those who have given me suggestions originally I was thinking something mainstream and well known like a flagship phone like the S5 or something like that but is their price tag really worth it or is there a better not as well known phone? Kinda like how the blaze basically was a smaller S2? I mean I'm looking for a Samsung, LG, or Motorola? Price isn't a problem I just want long lasting battery life, performance, 4G / LTE, A Good Camera and A Reasonable Storage Space? Any new suggestions?
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well if price aint a problem then s5 is definitely what ya looking for...awsome battery life.. u can easily get 15 hours video playback..or u can get htc one(m8) which is a tad bit heavier coz of its metal casing...but what i dont like about them phones is that they are laden with so much crap that we dont ever use...and s5 is big on fitness stuff...and yes moto g is for you if ya looking for smaller screen(4.5 inch...bigger than blaze) but still easy to use with one hand...good specs..actually better specs than phones almost about twice the price...good battery life(9-10 hour video playback) and internal storage is optional for 8gb or 16 gb..
I tried the moto g, well I owned one for a short period of time... I got grounded for some bs so I went into target and bought one of those prepaid phones to use as a WiFi phone I absolutely loved it but I returned it when I got ungrounded anyways I decided to wait for the nexus 6 but I'll probably buy a nexus 5 sometime this week to use in the meantime
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Xperia z is a nice alternative to the n5, the only problem I find is that it lacks the stock recovery.
Z1 is the later version, might like that.
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I'll give all the suggestions a try when I go to T-Mobile later this week
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