[Q] RAM Usage and Battery Life on Kitkat ROMs - Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

How is the Nexus S performing as regards RAM usage and battery life on the handful of unofficial Kitkat ROMs doing the rounds? Kitkat is built to perform better on devices with 512MB RAM than Jellybean. Wondering if that translates into actual differences in performance and battery life, even on the as-yet-unstable ROMs.

aadnan.w said:
How is the Nexus S performing as regards RAM usage and battery life on the handful of unofficial Kitkat ROMs doing the rounds? Kitkat is built to perform better on devices with 512MB RAM than Jellybean. Wondering if that translates into actual differences in performance and battery life, even on the as-yet-unstable ROMs.
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Battery life is pretty close to most jelly beans, it has better ram availability, but is smooth like 4.1 only a bit faster... Some apps still have issues due to the newness of 4.4, but mainly in ART... Most roms are pretty stable for daily use...
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Setting.Out said:
Battery life is pretty close to most jelly beans, it has better ram availability, but is smooth like 4.1 only a bit faster... Some apps still have issues due to the newness of 4.4, but mainly in ART... Most roms are pretty stable for daily use...
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Thanks. So in that case, I shouldn't expect more than the 1.5-2 hours of screen on time I've been getting using JB.

aadnan.w said:
Thanks. So in that case, I shouldn't expect more than the 1.5-2 hours of screen on time I've been getting using JB.
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In that case, much better than what you were getting.. Lol... I get around 4hrs screen time with 12-16hrs moderate usage..
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Wow, how do you get so much screen time?

Pixie dust... Lol. I don't have 3g on unless I'm using it, location off unless needed, I keep WiFi off when the phone sleeps, I don't auto sync, screen brightness is usually on lowest settings, I set app permissions to not wake my device, greenify, and use a script package with nodded build.prop...
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Pixie dust... Lol. I don't have 3g on unless I'm using it, location off unless needed, I keep WiFi off when the phone sleeps, I don't auto sync, screen brightness is usually on lowest settings, I set app permissions to not wake my device, greenify, and use a script package with nodded build.prop...
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I'll try that and see how long my battery lasts me. Although then I don't know what exactly I'll be doing with the phone at all. Usually I have 2G always on, switching to 3G when I need it, don't use WiFi. Auto-sync is mostly off, brightness lowest indoors, and a few apps greenified. That gives me 2 hours max of screen on time over moderate use for say 8-9 hours.

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Battery Life after installing GingerBread on Inspire

Anyone who has installed the Gingerbread rom on their Inspire, have you noticed any difference in battery life. This is supposedly the main benefit to the upgrade. I want to wipe the Bloat ware off my system, but not install a rom unless it makes a huge difference. Any info on this would be greatly appreciated...
I am running inspired ace which runs gingerbread and battery life is great.
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Read the threads it'll tell you everything
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Major increase by about 3 hours...set cpu to power save when screen off and run at 756 does amazing things.
Also lowering brightness and turning of network when not in use
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I too started getting MUCH better battery life with gingerbread. Any non-stock Rom for that matter.
If you want the absolute best in battery life go with gingerbeast ROM...
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gmurphy0487 said:
I am running inspired ace which runs gingerbread and battery life is great.
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+1 to inspired ace and much better battery life than stock.
Last time I went battery for awhile; See attached.
Granted 9 hours of that I was asleep as was the phone but the rest was me playing games, reading, downloading apps, browsing listening to music using stereo bluetooth.
Rom is in the Sig.
Gingerbeast does have awesome battery life. I reverted back to RCMix3D only cause I missed it, and I get about 10-18 hours out of my battery on that one.
+1 on the RCMix,, cant say its much longer,, but it is good for a 8 hr wrk day..
+1 for inspired ace rom - battery is great and so is the performance increase!
ThEiiNoCeNT said:
Major increase by about 3 hours...set cpu to power save when screen off and run at 756 does amazing things.
Also lowering brightness and turning of network when not in use
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That is word for word what I do...
And it is amazing. I highly recommend this.
gingerbeast has been ridiculously awesome for me on battery life. with moderate to heavy use, i get 12-18 hours of use a day
I have used HoneySense and LeeDroid, I have found that LeeDroid's kernel MUCH better than both HoneySense and the stock when it comes to battery life. In the end, it all depends on what you want, when you want alot of bells and whistles on all the time, your battery life will suffer, if you are more minimalist, you battery life will be much better
So far I've been one of those 'bells and whistles' people, and even on VU1.27 which I assume is pretty efficient I only get 8-9hrs. Surprising the biggest user has been voice calls, which will suck the battery dry in 2-3hrs if you have a couple long conversations.
audiophan said:
So far I've been one of those 'bells and whistles' people, and even on VU1.27 which I assume is pretty efficient I only get 8-9hrs. Surprising the biggest user has been voice calls, which will suck the battery dry in 2-3hrs if you have a couple long conversations.
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I have noticed once the Dialer is used, it seems to keep eating battery if I don't restart. I'm not sure if this is the ROM or android in general though...
meiguoguizi said:
I have noticed once the Dialer is used, it seems to keep eating battery if I don't restart. I'm not sure if this is the ROM or android in general though...
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Glad I'm not the only one. Just assumed it was a radio issue.

What am I doing wrong?

I keep reverting back to a sense based rom because I get a much quicker battery drain on any aosp rom I flash. It's close to half less battery life between charges. I always do a cach/davlik/factory reset prior and after flash.
Always in settings it shows my phone constantly waking up even when the screen is off.
Is this an aosp issue or something I'm doing?
I definitely like the aosp roms more but I have to get through the day with my phone.
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joho5 said:
I keep reverting back to a sense based rom because I get a much quicker battery drain on any aosp rom I flash. It's close to half less battery life between charges. I always do a cach/davlik/factory reset prior and after flash.
Always in settings it shows my phone constantly waking up even when the screen is off.
Is this an aosp issue or something I'm doing?
I definitely like the aosp roms more but I have to get through the day with my phone.
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What apps do you have installed?
Try getting rid of facebook if that's there. some apps cause wakelocks on cm10
I'm in the same boat as you. I'm letting my phone die completely and then doing a full charge. Then going to see how it drains from there.
CM based roms will always drain battery faster but turn off Facebook notification and background location reporting/Latitude location sharing in Google Maps because they cause wake locks. Battery life should increase, but still less than Sense based roms.
(For comparison sake, on days I would end around 60-65% battery life with Sense based roms, I end around 50ish% on AOKP)
thedauntlessone said:
CM based roms will always drain battery faster but turn off Facebook notification and background location reporting/Latitude location sharing in Google Maps because they cause wake locks. Battery life should increase, but still less than Sense based roms.
(For comparison sake, on days I would end around 60-65% battery life with Sense based roms, I end around 50ish% on AOKP)
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I don't care about less battery... I just dont want to have the phone waking up constantly. That's been the issue with aosp roms so far.
Trying to get away from sense.
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thedauntlessone said:
CM based roms will always drain battery faster but turn off Facebook notification and background location reporting/Latitude location sharing in Google Maps because they cause wake locks. Battery life should increase, but still less than Sense based roms.
(For comparison sake, on days I would end around 60-65% battery life with Sense based roms, I end around 50ish% on AOKP)
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When I turn off background reporting... What will that affect? Weather location and things like that?
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[Q] Stock or Custom rom for better battery

Hello all, I am wanting to get a good battery life on my mobile. So if I use a marmite kernel with stock jb will I get a better battery life or marmite kernel with rasbeanjelly will give better battery life.
What combo among the two I mentioned you all suggest for good battery life.
Thank you for reading.
Regards
I think that kernels have very little impact on power consumption (except if they running undervolted, downclocked or are broken in some way). More important thing is the ROM and apps that you use on daily base.
Best battery consuming ROM from my exp is CM10 stable with stock kernel, but maybe with 15-20 mins of screen time more than stock at most. Best tip for conserving power on NS and JB is to switch off 3G, Google Now and Location service when you don't need it.
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Ted Mosby said:
I think that kernels have very little impact on power consumption (except if they running undervolted, downclocked or are broken in some way). More important thing is the ROM and apps that you use on daily base.
Best battery consuming ROM from my exp is CM10 stable with stock kernel, but maybe with 15-20 mins of screen time more than stock at most. Best tip for conserving power on NS and JB is to switch off 3G, Google Now and Location service when you don't need it.
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Thanks for replying. But isn't people facing issues with cm10?
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Perhaps with 10.1, but 10 stable, or the latest 20122012 nightly was pretty stable. I had one issue only with it - auto brightness was somewhat jerky... That's only battery wise.
Fastest ROM for me is MDO by knzo, RasbeanJelly mod which I am using right now. 3 and a half hours of screen time is same as 3 hours and 15 minutes. Either way I need to charge it at the end of the day.
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Look What I found....

I found this in the general Android Dev section.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2158329
I tried it on my SGS4G and it seems to work ok. I will let you know on how it preforms.
How many of us are on Jellybean? I've been on ICS for a good while.
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Well I am, and I think a bunch other users are as well.
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This is really works good on slimbean v3.3, thats make my phone really no lag and avarage 140 mb of free ram
turkayunal said:
This is really works good on slimbean v3.3, thats make my phone really no lag and avarage 140 mb of free ram
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Is this still working well for you?
I think it helps a lot. Especially on battery usage.
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Tried it on XperiaSlim and so far seems to work and no issues so far.
I dont notice to much improvement but the apps and little things here amd there run smoother.
Yes i used TWRP too even though its not recommended
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Currently on slimbean 4.2.2. have gotten a few random reboots..not enough to make me change though. Video player doesnt work, kinda of a bummer. If you love your GPS and wifi, then stay off this one for a while. Battery life is great but he random reboots tend to kill it off prematurely,
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Currently on slimbean 4.2.2. have gotten a few random reboots..not enough to make me change though. Video player doesnt work, kinda of a bummer. If you love your GPS and wifi, then stay off this one for a while. Battery life is great but he random reboots tend to kill it off prematurely,
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Talking about SlimBean 4.2.2 or the 4cyl script? If you're talking about the base SlimBean... irrelevant to the usage of the 4cyl script.
Regarding the 4cyl, the 0.4.2 seems to be decent with the 1.4 NOS entropy script.
Is this still working well for you?
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Yes,it's work fine ı dont have reboots and everything stable.I have 1500mAh battery and ı always have 3g, the battery life is %19 11 hour on battery.:good:
Working stable for me. Switched to using 4cyl (0.4.2) for standard bits and Crossbreeder for entropy/adblock, based on what people were saying in the thread. Which means installing 4cyl, running the entropy uninstaller, and then the CB install.
With mostly light usage, phone is at 78% battery after 5h41m57s. 16% Android OS, 13% Wi-fi, 12% Android System, 12% Cell standby, 9% Screen. So you can tell that it's still the JB battery burn due to GPS, but overall? Not too shabby. And I could save a bunch of battery if I wasn't lazy and left Wi-fi on all the time.
Good lookin
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The Negatives Of The S4...

all i have been reading is how great the phone is . even i love the Samsung Galaxy S4 but im sure that the phone has some negative aspects as well. i request the users of the Samsung S4 to please point out the negative aspects of the phone if any ...
Awful screen.
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1. less space on device memory , bloatsss
2. phone rebooting , happened 3 times while opening camera app
3. chrome eating lot of ram (500mb-800 mb)
4. with no apps opened, phone is eating around 1.09 gb ram.
5. its getting hot!
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Awful screen.
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For me, the biggest negative is that the phone is not fast enough comparing to S3. Although, it might be touch wiz problem than hardware, because Nexus 10 feels much fluid and smooth.
Basically, I did expect a better performance.
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coolraghav said:
1. less space on device memory , bloatsss
2. phone rebooting , happened 3 times while opening camera app
3. chrome eating lot of ram (500mb-800 mb)
4. with no apps opened, phone is eating around 1.09 gb ram.
5. its getting hot!
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Is a fault from Samsung that an external app (Chrome) uses a lot of RAM? NO.
jodvova said:
For me, the biggest negative is that the phone is not fast enough comparing to S3. Although, it might be touch wiz problem than hardware, because Nexus 10 feels much fluid and smooth.
Basically, I did expect a better performance.
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yeah same with me, i'm eagerly waiting for samsung to release an update. have you tried disabling animation or making it 0.5x in developer options ? (window animation/transition/animator scale) .. it did help me a bit.
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Is a fault from Samsung that an external app (Chrome) uses a lot of RAM? NO.
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then why my nexus 4 wasn't eating the ram same way? i'm curious to know.
coolraghav said:
then why my nexus 4 wasn't eating the ram same way? i'm curious to know.
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Maybe because Chrome doesn't use a fixed MB, it uses a % of RAM. More ram more %.
This.
http://developer.samsung.com/forum/thread/samsung-devices-and-accessibility-services/77/204387
coolraghav said:
1. less space on device memory , bloatsss
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can't say i disagree, but it would still last awhile... plus if you're a heavy user you can just hack it
coolraghav said:
2. phone rebooting , happened 3 times while opening camera app
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not common enough to count it against them i dont think
coolraghav said:
3. chrome eating lot of ram (500mb-800 mb)
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use another browser? both the stock & chrome suck, they work ok but if you dont like the way they work you definitely have options
coolraghav said:
4. with no apps opened, phone is eating around 1.09 gb ram.
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it has a lot of features and a 1080p screen (yes the 1080 has more than twice the pixels of 720 that it needs to use memory for the GPU), it needs to use up some extra ram to run smoothly. imagine how slow it would be if it used 550mb and kept swapping it out
furthermore ive got a droid 3 with 512mb of ram... even with a custom rom with zero bloat this thing had like 50-100mb left to run apps... imagine how disappointed i am with it -_-
(im on verizon and im awaiting my pre-order of course)
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5. its getting hot!
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this isnt a legit complaint because its the fastest phone in the world. when i build a computer i expect some of the parts to sometimes run warm. in fact, my 7970 runs around 60 celsius under full load. the latest greatest technology is expected to get a little warm lol...
besides who ISNT going to use this thing as a hand warmer during the winter? lol
I too experience phone restarts when entering the camera app. Battery drains on average 10% every hour ( or more ) on medium use. Reached 50C degrees battery temp when browsing app, it got very uncomfortable to hold in the hand.
coolraghav said:
yeah same with me, i'm eagerly waiting for samsung to release an update. have you tried disabling animation or making it 0.5x in developer options ? (window animation/transition/animator scale) .. it did help me a bit.
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Yeap, I disabled all of them.
Still, when routinely switching between camera -> gallery -> email -> back to camera the transition between windows is very slow. And it's not because of animation, but probably because the phone needs to restore the state of a next app and it takes ages.
The phone is ok, but I expected more from 2013's hardware.
My phone never restarted itself, camera has crashed 2 times in 3 weeks, I don't have a problem with overheating, even if I use it all day (batterry draining is normal for a quadcore with 1080 screen... it lasts high use about 5-6 hours )
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I have had 2 phantom "switch offs", first thought the battery was empty so put it on to charge, second time I tried to switch it on and the battery came up as 90% full.
No idea why it switched off - it was in my pocket.
W.
Improperly perly calibrated amoled screens is the biggest flaw here
If i wont have smearing then i'll have the green tint issue,
Very frustrating indeed
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The firat thing i do with my s4 is disabling and uninstalling all smart crap,touchwiz,almost every samsung app
Then installing nova prime and sligjtly undervolting
And then you can make out of every phone a beast.
I need performance and no useless and childish gimmicks
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for me the most negatieve still is the battery, for it's size it's not lasting very long even with the AMOLED screen.
It's a little better with Cyanogenmod 10.1 installed.
Other then that for me this is perfect.
Smearing
Pink tint
Back panel heating
Battery draining
Blotware domination almost half of 16gb
Hiccups in TW & everywhere
Feels like hollow when held in hand
No fm radio
No much devs in xda till now
Halfbaked screen, sensors and firmware
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atilla88 said:
The firat thing i do with my s4 is disabling and uninstalling all smart crap,touchwiz,almost every samsung app
Then installing nova prime and sligjtly undervolting
And then you can make out of every phone a beast.
I need performance and no useless and childish gimmicks
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Well... Did you know that you just described the HTC One phone? You know in terms of no gimmicks and kitchen sink bloatware
Why are the HTC fanboys replying here? Anyway, the negatives for me are the 9gb free and the stutter sometimes in tw. Great phone nevertheless
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