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[Q] CWM,Vegan,etc What order do I do these things?

(I've spent a long time reading and I don't want to waste your time, so if the answers to this have been posted before please just tell me to keep searching.)
New G tablet arrives in 3 days. I have very little tech knowledge, but I enjoy the journey. Would someone mind please putting the following in the CORRECT order for me?
1. Fully charge G tab and turn it on
2. Install Titanium Backup on G tab (is this done like I would install an app on an iphone, or do I download to my PC and move it to the g tab?)
3. Backup stuff (everything)? To where? My PC?
4. Install clockwork as per instructions here (I think I'll use G tab's internal SD card)
5. Use clockwork to repartition internal SD card (2048 and 0)
6. Use clockwork to delete data and cache
7. Install Vegan 5.1 as per instructions here.
8. Install Flah and Market capability as per instructions here.
9. Install ADW launcher (not sure what this is, but it looks good on youtube). How do I install it? Is it like an iphone app installation, or...?
10. Some of the posts I've read mention a need for a file browser. Do they mean on my PC, or on the G tab? How do you get one on the G tab? Through Market?
11. Calibrate touch screen as per instructions here.
12. Anything I've forgotten?
Thanks for your help and understanding for a complete novice.

This has all been posted before as you thought.
I would not worry about backing up when you first get it as there will be nothing really on it but the stock rom.
if you goal is to load a Rom like TNT or Vegan from day one.
Root
Clockwork Mod
load Rom
and away you go.
There are directions all over the place to the above.
Once you get the rom loaded and all setup then get titanium backup installed and do a backup. Save yourself hours and pay for the pro version, it will allow you to run batch backup/restores and not touch your tablet while it runs.
Hope that helps now go read and search while you await your Gtab and have FUN! that is what it is all about.

Chances are you wont even have to root first.
Install Clockwork
Partition
Install Vegan

thebadfrog said:
Chances are you wont even have to root first.
Install Clockwork
Partition
Install Vegan
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Thanks guys. I like the sound of these 3 simple steps, but what do you mean "chances are..."? Is it a random thing?

goog64 said:
Thanks guys. I like the sound of these 3 simple steps, but what do you mean "chances are..."? Is it a random thing?
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This is my first Android device but I'm good with PC's.
Anyway, I fired it up from new installed clockwork, did the partition 2048,0 as suggested and for me installed tnt-lite and all is good. It was probably stock for about 10 minutes of its life.

Thanks Stuggy. That's what I'll try (except with Vegan, I think).

goog64 said:
Thanks guys. I like the sound of these 3 simple steps, but what do you mean "chances are..."? Is it a random thing?
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For some reason I had to root first when I installed the update after the 3389 update. I think it was just me but it was just another step. Installed z4root, got root, and moved on

Thanks badfrog.
Just to give you an idea where I'm at.....I had no idea what 3389 is so I searched for it. Many pages came up, but they all assume a certain level of background knowledge that I don't have. Please tell me, is 3389 the ROM that comes with the G tab?
If so, why would you be updating that if you had a different ROM already installed (Vegan, TNTlite, etc)?
Other pages I've seen have said that installing Vegan or TnTlite IS rooting, whilst still other pages have said that installing clockwork mod is rooting? Is this correct?
I can't find out what rooting actually means because every page I find assumes the reader already knows what rooting is. I will keep searching for a site for android dummies (and stop wasting your time).

rooting a device is basically changing system permissions so that you have full access to read, write and manipulate all files on the device. In Linux if you are root you have total control over the system. I believe that I read somewhere that the GTab is already set so that you have total control. Other devices you would use an app like z4root and it would change the security settings so that you had root access.

hmmm....the plot thickens. Thanks Sm0k3d 0ut, I'm looking forward to confirmation of that to clear up my confusion!

Hello - New user here and planning to do the same. My tablet arrives today but my SD arrives next week.
Can I use an 128MB micro SD to do the Clock mod before the larger card arrives?
Thanks.

bevbeng said:
Hello - New user here and planning to do the same. My tablet arrives today but my SD arrives next week.
Can I use an 128MB micro SD to do the Clock mod before the larger card arrives?
Thanks.
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Check this thread on clockwork
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=865245
goog64 said:
Thanks Stuggy. That's what I'll try (except with Vegan, I think).
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Try them both, they are both great roms and you will become more comfortable the more roms you flash.
Most important tools are this site and titanium backup "PRO"

copc said:
Try them both, they are both great roms and you will become more comfortable the more roms you flash.
Most important tools are this site and titanium backup "PRO"
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Thanks copc. I also read somewhere that backing up can be done with Clockwork. Is that true? If so, does a novice like me really need titanium backup?
Also, one more question: in case I ever want to restore to the stock ROM that the G tab comes with, do I need to do anything special BEFORE I install Clockwork and the new ROM? Or can I just change back to original no matter what I do now?
(G tab arrives tomorrow. Can't wait!)

goog64 said:
I also read somewhere that backing up can be done with Clockwork. Is that true? If so, does a novice like me really need titanium backup?
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I still haven't received my Zpad yet, so can't talk from experience. But from what I have read it seems that titanium backup backs up the apps (and maybe data?) and clockwork makes a ROM image of you Tablet (or something similar to that). So I think they are different types of backups and you should probably do both.
But I could be horribly wrong.

SnakeManJayd said:
I still haven't received my Zpad yet, so can't talk from experience. But from what I have read it seems that titanium backup backs up the apps (and maybe data?) and clockwork makes a ROM image of you Tablet (or something similar to that). So I think they are different types of backups and you should probably do both.
But I could be horribly wrong.
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You are spot on, Titanium Backup allows you to back up and restore individual apps and data (you can also use it to sideload apps you have already installed on another Android device). CW will make a backup of your entire system (internal SDCard) so you can restore if something goes awry.
goog64 said:
(I've spent a long time reading and I don't want to waste your time, so if the answers to this have been posted before please just tell me to keep searching.)
New G tablet arrives in 3 days. I have very little tech knowledge, but I enjoy the journey. Would someone mind please putting the following in the CORRECT order for me?
1. Fully charge G tab and turn it on
2. Install Titanium Backup on G tab (is this done like I would install an app on an iphone, or do I download to my PC and move it to the g tab?)
3. Backup stuff (everything)? To where? My PC?
4. Install clockwork as per instructions here (I think I'll use G tab's internal SD card)
5. Use clockwork to repartition internal SD card (2048 and 0)
6. Use clockwork to delete data and cache
7. Install Vegan 5.1 as per instructions here.
8. Install Flah and Market capability as per instructions here.
9. Install ADW launcher (not sure what this is, but it looks good on youtube). How do I install it? Is it like an iphone app installation, or...?
10. Some of the posts I've read mention a need for a file browser. Do they mean on my PC, or on the G tab? How do you get one on the G tab? Through Market?
11. Calibrate touch screen as per instructions here.
12. Anything I've forgotten?
Thanks for your help and understanding for a complete novice.
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1,4,5,7,8, and 11 in that order will get you in business. Titanium Backup should be installed after you get Vegan installed, as there is really nothing to back up in stock. Data and cache will be deleted as part of the partitioning process (that's how I've understood it), and a file browser is already installed with the Vegan image. #9 is just fluff, ADW is a great launcher, but is not necessary to get up and running. If I recall correctly, it will install like an app - you should be able to find it in the Market.
#12 - Though it is not necessary, Root Explorer is a real handy app to have if you are going to tear around with Android's inner workings. Less than $5 on the market, but I found it worth every penny so far.
You will find many different thoughts on the process laid out above, this is just worked for me when I was starting out. The most important thing is Clockwork. Do. That. First.
bevbeng said:
Hello - New user here and planning to do the same. My tablet arrives today but my SD arrives next week.
Can I use an 128MB micro SD to do the Clock mod before the larger card arrives?
Thanks.
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I did mine (CW .8 and TNTLite) from a 256MB card, and there was still plenty of room - a 128MB card should do you fine. In fact, if you are doing it from a PC (I can't confirm for Mac as I don't have one), you can install CW off of the card, use CW to partition the tablet storage, connect the tablet to your PC, and then use CW to mount the tablet as USB storage so you can copy over the ROM image to the tablet and install.
As far as CW, use the .8 version. I have heard of problems from others using newer versions, and it seems that .8 is what the devs recommend. You can find a link to it in here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=865245
BigJohn

Thanks BigJohn. I REALLY appreciate the time you took with that answer, and you explained it very clearly. My tablet arrives today (I hope), and you have given me a lot of confidence.

goog64 said:
Thanks BigJohn. I REALLY appreciate the time you took with that answer, and you explained it very clearly. My tablet arrives today (I hope), and you have given me a lot of confidence.
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Welcome to MOD-dom, it's awesome.

[Q] Paranoid newbie questions re replacement ROM

I have a Galaxy Gio GT-S5660V (Australia) with a 16GB SD card, having (currently) a 500MB ext2fs partition in addition to the FAT32 partition. I've rooted the phone with universal_gb_root_v20.zip and moved everything that can be moved to the SD card.
But I have installed some 42 additional apps (on top of those that came built-in), and despite uninstalling some built-in apps (using Titanium Backup Root Pro), am forever running out of storage. To the extent that I now can't update some storage-intensive apps (like Google Maps).
I know this is a developers' forum, and I'm not a developer. But it looks like the best place to come for the advice I need. I'm a raw beginner (this is my first and, so far, only smartphone), and am fearful of doing something to the phone that would reduce its usefulness or (worse) stop it working completely. So because the solution to my problem probably involves replacing the stock ROM code with a 'special' ROM, and those ROMs are so poorly documented, I have heaps of questions before I'm confident to proceed.
I've read the 'Big thread For New Users (Rooting, Flashing, Firmwares, Mods, Tips, Tricks)'. I've installed Odin 4.42, and think I understand how to download a new ROM to the phone (but of course haven't tried it yet!!). I looked for a GT-S5660V specific forum, but couldn't find one.
1. If I install a custom ROM, what happens to all the built-in apps that came with the phone? [Some of these are vital to me!] Obviously the basic phone/SMS/data, Bluetooth and WiFi functions must continue to operate correctly.
2. What happens to all the additional apps I've bought and installed?
3. I don't especially want to change the 'look and feel' of my phone. I just want to free up internal storage by using the SD card as an 'extension' to internal storage, so I can continue adding and updating apps without running out. So which ROM is likely to achieve this on the GT-S5660V (I'd particularly like to hear from any Australians who have ROMmed their GT-S5660V with this feature, since I've read warnings about ROM versions that are for the GT-S5660 but NOT the GT-S5660V)?
4. In case the custom ROM doesn't work for me, how do I backup my current ROM so I can reinstall it?
Sorry for the long (and paranoid!) post, and I hope someone here can help me. Many thanks.
PS: I enjoyed the 'Noob Video' - very professionally made!
Daniel
(Gerroa, Australia)

DanielFFF said:
1. If I install a custom ROM, what happens to all the built-in apps that came with the phone? [Some of these are vital to me!] Obviously the basic phone/SMS/data, Bluetooth and WiFi functions must continue to operate correctly.
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The only thing you'll have are what comes with the ROM you flash. That, of course, includes phone/SMS/data, Bluetooth and Wifi. If you run Astro (the free version is enough) you can save an apk file of any app you absolutely need, just to be sure it's available after you flash a ROM. (Then install Apk Installer, and it can install the apk file in the new ROM.)
2. What happens to all the additional apps I've bought and installed?
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See #1. You should have the apk files for all the apps you need (free, paid and original) saved to your laptop/desktop or somewhere.
3. I don't especially want to change the 'look and feel' of my phone.
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The look and feel is the apps. The "desktop" is the launcher. You may find some that you actually like better than the stock one.
I just want to free up internal storage by using the SD card as an 'extension' to internal storage, so I can continue adding and updating apps without running out.
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With CM you can use up to 1GB on the SD card as internal storage. (Making the partition larger than 1GB in CM seems to cause problems. There's at least one ROM that can take a larger partition, but there's no version for your phone.)
So which ROM is likely to achieve this on the GT-S5660V (I'd particularly like to hear from any Australians who have ROMmed their GT-S5660V with this feature, since I've read warnings about ROM versions that are for the GT-S5660 but NOT the GT-S5660V)?
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NEVER flash a ROM that's not for your specific phone. At best it won't work. At worst you won't be able to recover the phone and you'll have to buy another one.
4. In case the custom ROM doesn't work for me, how do I backup my current ROM so I can reinstall it?
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Use Nandroid backup in the recovery boot. (And save the backup to your computer - the SD card will get wiped.)

Re: Paranoid newbie questions re replacement ROM
Many thanks, Rukbat, you reply has been very helpful. But as with any learning process, your answers have raised new questions!...
Rukbat said:
The only thing you'll have are what comes with the ROM you flash. That, of course, includes phone/SMS/data, Bluetooth and Wifi. If you run Astro (the free version is enough) you can save an apk file of any app you absolutely need, just to be sure it's available after you flash a ROM. (Then install Apk Installer, and it can install the apk file in the new ROM.)
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I had Astro File Manager before, but uninstalled it when I started running short of storage, as I didn't think it offered anything that I couldn't do with ES File Explorer and Titanium Backup Pro. Do I really need to reinstall it, or will the backups from Titanium Backup do?
Rukbat said:
See #1. You should have the apk files for all the apps you need (free, paid and original) saved to your laptop/desktop or somewhere.
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I believe Titanium Backup Pro backs up user apps and data, so once I reinstall Titanium with the new ROM, I should be able to recover my previous apps, yes?
Rukbat said:
With CM you can use up to 1GB on the SD card as internal storage. (Making the partition larger than 1GB in CM seems to cause problems. There's at least one ROM that can take a larger partition, but there's no version for your phone.)
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I'm guessing that 'CM' is CyanogenMod? I'm still looking for a version specifically for the GT-S5660V. It worries me (I really am paranoid! ) that so many versions are 'unofficial', and so poorly documented.
Rukbat said:
NEVER flash a ROM that's not for your specific phone. At best it won't work. At worst you won't be able to recover the phone and you'll have to buy another one.
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This is what worries me most, as there are very few ROMs and such specifically made for the GT-S5660V – quite a few for the 'generic' Gio (GT-S5660), but few for the 'V' specifically. I read somewhere that the main difference is probably in the 3G frequencies used in Australia, and that some people had tried a 'generic' Gio ROM and lost some of their telephone functionality. Some mention of flashing the Modem code separately, but that just confuses me more!
Rukbat said:
Use Nandroid backup in the recovery boot. (And save the backup to your computer - the SD card will get wiped.)
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I looked up Nandroid backup, and it seems to get this I need to install ClockworkMod Recovery. ROM Manager is also recommended as an adjunct, so I've already installed v5.0.2.0 of that. Just need to find a GT-S5660V version of ClockworkMod Recovery now! I guess since it doesn't affect telephone functionality, a version for the generic Gio should be OK, such as http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1421650
It's so confusing for a beginner like me, with so many different versions around!
But I really appreciate your help so far, and hope you can continue to enlighten me.

[How to] Moving Apps to SD Card

***UPDATE***
As of update MF5 and higher, this feature is now part of Samsung's software (YAY! )
To move apps to SD, simply Go to:
1] Settings
2] More
3] Application Manager
4] Select your app from the list
5] Select the "Move to SD card" option
For those of you on older firmwares or wanting a slightly more powerful tool, read on!
Hi Everyone,
I'm posting this here hoping to save others some trouble of finding how to move Apps to SD Card. Officially it's not supported, but there's already a few methods of doing so. First, some warnings:
Rooting: Currently there is no recoveries for the Galaxy S4, so if rooting somehow goes wrong, you've got an expensive paperweight.
Apps to SD Card: SD Card memory is more vulnerable than the internal memory, so there's always a risk of data loss on them. Keep anything you can't afford to lose in the internal memory!
Step 1: Prepare your phone for rooting:
First up you need to Root your Galaxy S4. To do this:
[On your Phone]
- Go to Settings --> More Tab --> About Device
- Tap "Build number" multiple times - I think after 9 it enables "Developer Options"
- Go back to the "More" menu, and open the new developer options tab
- Enable "USB Debugging"
- Plug your phone into your computer via USB
[On your Computer (Windows only instructions)]
- Download the Galaxy S Drivers from HERE and save them somewhere handy (IE: Desktop)
- Right click "Computer/My Computer", go to properties, and open your device manager
- You should see your galaxy in there somewhere (Possibly under "other"). Right click this, go to "update driver software", and browse for drivers. Select the S Driver folder mentioned above and hit next, and it should update/install itself.
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Step 2: Root your phone:
For versions before MDN/MDM - thunderserpent's guide should do the trick: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2266336
For versions ending in MDN/MDM - djembey's guide should work great: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2255190
For older versions (stock without an OTA Update), use the below method:
[On your Computer (Windows only instructions)]
- Once installed, download the Motochopper software HERE to root the phone
- Double click the motochopper "run.bat" in the folder, and follow the instructions onscreen.
Step 3: Install and use FolderMount:
[On your Phone]
- Once rooted, download foldermount HERE
- Once installed, open FolderMount and grant superuser access when asked.
- In FolderMount, you have the options to:
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:: Name your folder (IE: "Generic Game 1")
:: Select the "Source" Folder (the one on your local storage)
:: Select the "Destination" Folder (the one on your SD Card)
When you enter these details, it will then move them to your SD Card!
Personally I paid the £1.40 for the FolderMount Pro, because it also shows you filesizes when browsing - and it's finally made my S4 useful!
I know it's not the easiest process ever, but hopefully I've explained it enough to get people started. I have a 32GB external and the measly 8.8 internal I was left with was useless. Now I can move apps to the external card to save space internally!
Common Locations of Large Files:
Two common locations for games (IE: Gameloft games, EA Games, etc.)
Android/data
Android/obb
Potential Downfalls:
- Loading times may increase from the external memory
- Updates may cause problems, although testing so far shows it doesn't have any problems
- You may need to re-mount after reboot, the mount on boot option may not always work
If you get prompted to redownload a game/update that you already have - check in FolderMount that it has been mounted okay
Disclaimer: These instructions are purely to try and help people - I don't own, maintain, or affiliate with any of the downloads. Use at your own risk!
Update
Some people using Adam Kernel/root having been having issues - please see some steps below from abheshekk who managed to get it working fine:
abheshekk said:
Hi,
Follow following steps to resolve this issue, mine is working now:
I9500 should be on stock rom mine was on mdk indian latest firmware.
1. install Adam kernel 1.1 using odin
2. install cofface cwm recovery
3. install busybox
this will work for you enjoy
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Good how to, and the app FolderMount is well worth the money!
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Nice How-to,
when I am back home, I will try it

GhostLeader said:
Nice How-to,
when I am back home, I will try it
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Samsung's response to the lack of built in memory is an SD Card, yet they don't officially support this - so after a bit of looking around I managed to get it working. Figured if it helps even one or two people out, yay

Please note you will probably have to reinstall the apps when updates for the app are available in the market.
Not too mention Samsung's response was misleading and stupid, since misleads customers thinking it fixes the app storage.

Eambo said:
Samsung's response to the lack of built in memory is an SD Card, yet they don't officially support this - so after a bit of looking around I managed to get it working. Figured if it helps even one or two people out, yay
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Can you plz add the information where my installed apps are on android? Dont know the path, its my first android smartphone
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GhostLeader said:
Can you plz add the information where my installed apps are on android? Dont know the path, its my first android smartphone
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So far, I'm not entirely sure. They seem to have different locations:
Android/data
Android/obb
Are a huge chunk (6.6GB on mine - mainly games - Gameloft etc.)
The rest are in 100s of MB at most, so those seem to be the main places. If you get the 'paid' version of the FolderMount app, it shows you the folder sizes in the app which helps a lot
As for updates/reinstalling, this may indeed be true. I haven't had a chance to test/play with this unfortunately! If I get an update anywhere, I'll update this!
Edit: I deleted one of my folders from NFS MW and it redownloaded to the SD Card which was handy - however I don't know how google play will work with updates, whether it does a "smarter" check or not.

I can't find most of my apps. There's a few in Android/data. . But idk where the rest are at. Nothing in obb

opz187 said:
I can't find most of my apps. There's a few in Android/data. . But idk where the rest are at. Nothing in obb
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opz what apps are you using?

As an update, I just updated an app through Play and it looks to have updated without a problem to the SD Card - I can't really poke around much to tell, but it launched and looks fine to me, and looks to still be mounted on the SD Card

Seems to be updating the apps on the SD card just fine. Cheers OP.

beagio said:
Seems to be updating the apps on the SD card just fine. Cheers OP.
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Thanks for confirming that - from the description of FolderMount it sounds like the phone should be unaware of it being external, so I was hoping there wouldn't be a problem

Eambo said:
Thanks for confirming that - from the description of FolderMount it sounds like the phone should be unaware of it being external, so I was hoping there wouldn't be a problem
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Seems to me that it's basically created a symbolic link pointing to the external SD card. Android shouldn't know the difference. That's just a guess tho, as I'm new to this Android malarkey

I had an update today for Iron Man 3, which is on my external card. It updated fine through Google Play, and when I launched it it just went "Verifying Files" then launched - no issues
The only problem I've found so far is with the gallery and hidden folders. I went into the gallery and hid a folder - a few times I couldn't get the option to show hidden folders. I rebooted, and can no longer either hide or show hidden folders - which is strange. The option is entirely missing now...may be unrelated, but not entirely sure.

Eambo said:
I had an update today for Iron Man 3, which is on my external card. It updated fine through Google Play, and when I launched it it just went "Verifying Files" then launched - no issues
The only problem I've found so far is with the gallery and hidden folders. I went into the gallery and hid a folder - a few times I couldn't get the option to show hidden folders. I rebooted, and can no longer either hide or show hidden folders - which is strange. The option is entirely missing now...may be unrelated, but not entirely sure.
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So as im new to Android guys with this method you can download,install and run/play apps/games straight from a micro sd card thus freeing up the internal storage ?

Wow, I'm using it on S3, and it works much better than Directory Bind, than never did work on my S3 (I don't know why)!!!
Thkx a lot for this!!! Now I finally can have all my big games installed!!!

drenco said:
So as im new to Android guys with this method you can download,install and run/play apps/games straight from a micro sd card thus freeing up the internal storage ?
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Sorry for the delayed response - yep, that's exactly what it does. Again it has some negatives as the external is a bit slower to load and has a higher chance of failure, but I know I certainly had no room internally - this allows me to use the 32GB External for games, apps, etc.

Link2SD
Hi all,
I installed Link2SD from market. Working nicely, also with updates and new apps.
Does this this foldermount option do the same, or is it more efficient?

Seems to do the same thing. No problems so far.
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FolderMount allows you a choice in moving your large app data and obb folders and even media like the whatsapp photos folder to the external SD.
It's more flexible in what you can do.
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Move apps to SD card (on LG Motion)?

I'd like to have all of my apps on my external SD because it transfers at 30mbps, and also to help free up some storage space. Can this be done on my LG Motion? If so, how?
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AppMgr III
rob.hedrick said:
I'd like to have all of my apps on my external SD because it transfers at 30mbps, and also to help free up some storage space. Can this be done on my LG Motion? If so, how?
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Here are two Apps:
Easy APP2SD (Move Apps to SD)
AppMgr III (App 2 SD)
Good Luck

Use link2sd
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Selecting the applications from the application list in the settings menu then use the "application to sd card" option isn't sufficient for you?

rob.hedrick said:
I'd like to have all of my apps on my external SD because it transfers at 30mbps, and also to help free up some storage space. Can this be done on my LG Motion? If so, how?
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Look for folders plug in apk on the xda. Or google search folders plugin
It should allow you to put in system links (short cuts) to the SD card as though the app is still on internal memory, just don't do it to system apps... that can be messy.
Edit: link to the development thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1502893
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Debian Kit Install guide for all android devices that I'm writing:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2240397
Or
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ssVeIhdBuuy8CtpBP1lWgUkG6fR6oHxP20ToYPPw6zI/edit?usp=drive_web

That isn't an option for me with the LG Motion. I know some droid phones do that but I'll need an app.
Thanks for all the replies, everyone.
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Welcome. If that link to the app isn't for you and you've got root there are directions for adding system links though the command line. It's best to have a full nanDroid backup before messing around with those or the folders plug app because it's easy to soft brick your device if read write permitions get messed up when files are moved to SD, however, there are apps for fixing or setting that after the copy but before system linking.
But do check out the app that I linked to in my previous post if you've not already; works on all my devices and it's kinda funny to see the accessible space for internal memory jump to 30gigs
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Debian Kit Install guide for all android devices that I'm writing:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2240397
Or
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ssVeIhdBuuy8CtpBP1lWgUkG6fR6oHxP20ToYPPw6zI/edit?usp=drive_web

Ok SO, thx. When I have more time I will definitely check that out.
I got excited because I noticed that my Titanium Backup Pro app has a feature to have my apps automatically transfer to the external SD on a regular scheduled basis. However when I ran it, it says: "Guru caught fire during calculations". Nothing happened... Bummer. Maybe they'll fix that. In the meantime I will check out the mounting .apk. Though skimming the directions it sounds confusing, though it probably isn't... Thanks again, SO.
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It may sound confusing but what it boils down to is;
Copying the folder and it's contents to a folder on your SD card
Verifying it all copied completely and correctly, because sometimes you'll get a stubborn one that won't copy in big chunks.
Then telling the app where it should make the shortcut. System folder
Then tell the app where on the SD card it should link it to. The copied folder.
Takes a few minuets the first time around, then only seconds the next times you run it. Just try merge first instead of move(Edit 1: it's the third option, just make the link), so that if something messes up then your not out re flashing things.
Edit 2: be sure to try it with an empty folder first by making one in data/temp and then linking a folder to it from your SD card that has something in it like the downloads folder. One more thing; don't link system apps all at once, some will handle it just fine, but for example if you link your phones phone call handling data to your SD card, it will barf hard... And avoid setting it at boot until you've worked out how your device handles this.
I've no doubt that it'll be what you're looking for, just not as easy as it'll one day be
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Debian Kit Install guide for all android devices that I'm writing:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2240397
Or
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ssVeIhdBuuy8CtpBP1lWgUkG6fR6oHxP20ToYPPw6zI/edit?usp=drive_web

Ok, S0, I'm going to give this a shot.. You know what'd make me real confident? Seriously, You making a YouTube how-to video, lol.
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S0, I see 4 different versions of the mounting .apk.. Which one is the best & most stable?
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Ok.. I tried that. It didn't work. Basically it said I need to partition my internal sd in order to link whisk I can't find an option to use the external, also I can't seem to be able to get any user app to move to my external SD, via any application I try to use. In case you might ask, yes my phone is rooted. Bummer man.. I'm lost. This shouldn't be difficult at all, but for some reason, I am mind boggled here...
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Yeah I know what ya mean. Even screen shots would help a little I bet.
Alas though I'll eventually make video tutorials one day, but they'll likely be for the project I'm working on first.
The apps purity easy, but, I can understand not wanting to mess up your device accidentally. There are others out there as far as apps that will accomplish the same thing; perhaps there's a YouTube tutorial for one of them. I'll check and report back, likely after work and update this post with a link or two.
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1) install the app 2) open the app 2b) allow root permissions when superuser ask 3) click in the menu key and select mountpoints edition 4) click the menu key and select add mountpoint 5) in the source folder select the folder that contains the data files 6) in the destination folder select the folder in that the apps search for the files 7) click accept 8) in the mountpoiunts list, enable the check right to the mountpoint 9) click the folder icon at the left of the mountpoint to manually mount 10) if all works fine, the grayed icon becomes yellow and is the end...
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____ taken from youtube (simmular but not identical app)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pV6w_YZyOIA
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Debian Kit Install guide for all android devices that I'm writing:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2240397
Or
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ssVeIhdBuuy8CtpBP1lWgUkG6fR6oHxP20ToYPPw6zI/edit?usp=drive_web

That'd be great. Thanks.
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rob.hedrick said:
That'd be great. Thanks.
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Not sure if ya saw the additional links I put up in my previous post here and it's been a few days but I can't really apologize for that; because I've been hard at work on XDA with the guide I've been writing (differences in signatures should sum it up).
Have you gotten the SD linking figured out?
If not; check different kernels and or ROM's for your device there are some that support this kind of "Mangling" of addressing and folder/file linking and some that do not. The ones (kernel and or ROM's) on your device maybe ones of a "safer" build that don't allow such things to happen.
And as far a me making video tutorials... I've found that scripting installers for people to use is way easier; I'll keep it in mind though as youtube is great for getting people comfortable with new ideas and methods.
I'll try to be back again sometime if ya don't hit me up somewhere else first.
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Debian Kit/QEMU Linux Install guide for all android devices that I'm writing:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2240397
Now working on Scripting installers and tutorials for beginner scripting for; Bash, Python, and Java for Android and Linux
Also working on porting; Crazyflie-Quadcopter, Andoid-Casual, Maptools-MMO table top game maker and hoaster, jMonkey JDK, and Openstack-cloud services to run on Android.

Storage Swap

Hi, i'm facing some problems with the swapping i did (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1857391)
I honestly don't know what to do, i'm not very good at these things. I tried it twice on my samsung galaxy note 10.1 and both times the swap is sucessful BUT it still saves in the internal.... I'm running stock kernel if you need more information you can ask. Oh and I did it with script manager
Please, help me. I really need the space
(using Sandisk ultra class 10 64 gb)

No suggestions at all?

SMN65 said:
No suggestions at all?
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Give it time. Not everyone checks XDA on an hourly basis.

So when you run the script it moves everything and does what it should? But then you get new apps and they continue to install on internal?

bigtoysrock said:
So when you run the script it moves everything and does what it should? But then you get new apps and they continue to install on internal?
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Exactly...I really would appreciate any help I could get, maybe some new steps? I'm really not so good though I believe I followed the steps well.
Thanks for your time
If you need more information ask please, and my android version is 4.1.2 (don't know if its useful)

SMN65 said:
Exactly...I really would appreciate any help I could get, maybe some new steps? I'm really not so good though I believe I followed the steps well.
Thanks for your time
If you need more information ask please, and my android version is 4.1.2 (don't know if its useful)
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Did you happen to read anywhere that it needs to be run again when adding new apps? Like it only moves them the one time and it's not like a setting that future apps go to sd.

bigtoysrock said:
Did you happen to read anywhere that it needs to be run again when adding new apps? Like it only moves them the one time and it's not like a setting that future apps go to sd.
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If i understood corectly, I didn't read anything like that but i made the script (via script manager) executable and to run at boot. It should just install in the external without boot or anything else needed.

I read on other forums about other devices that the easiest way to swap internal with external is by modifying your vold.fstab, but the mine is really wierd (I can post it if needed) , it's not like the other peoples devices. Maybe its that way on all SG note 10.1 because no one else has done it on the note 10.1.

Maybe I should flash a new rom? Like omega? I really don't know

So, I understood what I was doing wrong. I had updated the version of my device and the script wasnt compatible with JB. Though I have a quick question for anyone. Now that I used the one for JB and swapped the internal with external when i download a game for example Iron man (which is 800MB) a small part (around 10MB) goes in the internal,that happends with all games (some even take more 15MB or so). Is that normal?
EDIT: Nah, it still fully installs in the internal, swap is still sucessful though, at least it shows so.... Maybe if I can go back to ICS?