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Hey all,
I know I just put up my tutorial on how to do this but hopefully this will make things easier for everyone. I'd still suggest doing a nandroid backup first just to make sure but I tested this on my phone so it should work. Just run the app and if this is the first time moving your apps to your sd card(and you want to keep the ones you have) leave the checkbox checked. Otherwise uncheck it. Then just press the buttons that correspond to what you want to do. Enjoy
In order to use this you MUST:
1: Have an apps-to-sd ROM
2: Have your sd card partitioned correctly with FAT32 first and ext2 second.
3: Have busybox already installed to /system/xbin
NOTE: I'll try to help as much as I can but I can't take responsibility for anything this does to your phone. I'm pretty sure nothing bad will happen and nothing irreparable can happen but gotta say these things just to be sure anytime I'm messing with root permissions.
ANOTHER NOTE: I'll put this up in the market for $1. It'll remain free here but people can donate to me that way.
YET ANOTHER NOTE: I've managed to get a new method working that's a lot more stable and flexible. I will keep this thread here but won't be maintaining it.
EDIT: Moving data is too unstable, I've removed the option. It doesn't force close anymore when you don't have the setup right, it just gives an error and wont let you do anything, so that's better.
Tried it this morning and worked great. You might add a pop up at the end of moving apps to restart the device. When less experienced people use it, they won't know to do that I'm afraid.
the app sends me into abootloop at the htc screen
ps
i tried from fresh wipe and sd
Nismo300zx said:
the app sends me into abootloop at the htc screen
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i tried from fresh wipe and sd
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OH SHOOT!!! I fixed this problem on the market one but forgot to put it back up on here. Umm... for now no1 should use the one posted here, until I can get home and post the updated one. OR if you still want to fix this and don't much just a bit of fiddling in the recovery terminal, after moving apps to sd, restart in recovery mode and do this:
Code:
mount data
ln -s /system/sd/app /data/app
For anyone who cares about such things, the problem is that it deletes the /data/app folder and then makes a symlink, which sounds ok, except that every super user command has to be run through the whitelist app... which no longer exists. So it's not able to set up the link and all hell breaks loose.
i did use the 1 from here
it says ln: /data/app: file exists
if i already had apps2sd, tried to upgrade my phone from 5.0 to 5.01G, so I wiped...then data.img wouldn't flash over...if i do this, will my apps show up again?
Nismo300zx said:
i did use the 1 from here
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ya it's the one from here that's broken, sorry. If you haven't already flashed back and everything(still have the boot loop) then you can use the code I posted and it should fix it. I'll post the updated version tonight when I get back home.
AbsoluteDesignz said:
if i already had apps2sd, tried to upgrade my phone from 5.0 to 5.01G, so I wiped...then data.img wouldn't flash over...if i do this, will my apps show up again?
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Yes, just uncheck the checkbox. But you might want to read the note that I just posted, there's a known problem with it that has a fix but requires going into the recovery terminal. I'll post the updated version of this app that doesn't have that bug tonight.
jus tried and nothing ..now im stuck at tmobile g1 screen..im startin to think it just dnt like me
Nismo300zx said:
jus tried and nothing ..now im stuck at tmobile g1 screen..im startin to think it just dnt like me
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Try reading a few of the posts above yours.
ThaBadBoy said:
Try reading a few of the posts above yours.
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i been at this for 2days ive tried evrythin ..hmm time to give up soon
Nismo300zx said:
i been at this for 2days ive tried evrythin ..hmm time to give up soon
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Not really,,
According to the like 6th post or something its states this app wont work if you download it from here, but if you were to get it through the market....
Bob should now be your uncle
if you give him some time as clearly posted again, he will fix the app from the first post and replace it later on
Dantehman said:
Not really,,
According to the like 6th post or something its states this app wont work if you download it from here, but if you were to get it through the market....
Bob should now be your uncle
if you give him some time as clearly posted again, he will fix the app from the first post and replace it later on
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ok if i typed the commands in manually and it wnt work ..and the app wnt work ..im tired of wipin the fone and formattin the sd card...=[ i give up
Nismo300zx said:
ok if i typed the commands in manually and it wnt work ..and the app wnt work ..im tired of wipin the fone and formattin the sd card...=[ i give up
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you had the "stale NFS handle" right? I'm not really sure what's going on but something in your phone's file system sounds like it went screwy. Maybe someone like JF or LucidREM could help? Your problem goes way over my head and I'm guessing the same is true of a lot of people on here unfortunately.
its cool imma jus stay with apps n caches to sd...n kep dalvik on the fone..i got passed the nfs error and get stuck at tmo g1 screen maybe ill try again l8ter
jf rom
Ok question I know it says apps to sd rom is needed does this mean only haykuro roms? I have a jfrc33 1.42 and I could do apps to sd using this rom (planning on doing it tonight my 8gig class 6 card arrived) so my question is can I just use this app or do I need to do all the steps manually
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Ok question I know it says apps to sd rom is needed does this mean only haykuro roms? I have a jfrc33 1.42 and I could do apps to sd using this rom (planning on doing it tonight my 8gig class 6 card arrived) so my question is can I just use this app or do I need to do all the steps manually
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It should work on any apps to sd ROM. This includes LucidREM's modified JF ROMs. If you're gonna be manually changing it into an apps to sd, then I would think it would work but can't promise it. I wasn't able to figure that out when I tried so I'm not 100% sure that they work the same but I would imagine they would. Again, though, the one posted here has that known bug which will be fixed after I get home from work.
Short answer(s):
Haykuro's ROM: definitely works
LucidREM ROM: Don't have it to test it but almost assuredly works
Self-modified: probably works?
Sounds good I wasn't doing it till later tonight anyways (stuck at work also) also is it still a good idea to keep ext2 parititon less then 2gb like lucid reported on his tutorial
jjjackson56 said:
Sounds good I wasn't doing it till later tonight anyways (stuck at work also) also is it still a good idea to keep ext2 parititon less then 2gb like lucid reported on his tutorial
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Probably, I haven't tried anything bigger... and seriously, you'd need a crazy amount of apps to fill up even 1GB...
[email protected] said:
Probably, I haven't tried anything bigger... and seriously, you'd need a crazy amount of apps to fill up even 1GB...
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True. that sure would be a lot I dont even think all the apps in the market would fill 2gigs lol. Thanks for your work look forward to trying it later
(I've spent a long time reading and I don't want to waste your time, so if the answers to this have been posted before please just tell me to keep searching.)
New G tablet arrives in 3 days. I have very little tech knowledge, but I enjoy the journey. Would someone mind please putting the following in the CORRECT order for me?
1. Fully charge G tab and turn it on
2. Install Titanium Backup on G tab (is this done like I would install an app on an iphone, or do I download to my PC and move it to the g tab?)
3. Backup stuff (everything)? To where? My PC?
4. Install clockwork as per instructions here (I think I'll use G tab's internal SD card)
5. Use clockwork to repartition internal SD card (2048 and 0)
6. Use clockwork to delete data and cache
7. Install Vegan 5.1 as per instructions here.
8. Install Flah and Market capability as per instructions here.
9. Install ADW launcher (not sure what this is, but it looks good on youtube). How do I install it? Is it like an iphone app installation, or...?
10. Some of the posts I've read mention a need for a file browser. Do they mean on my PC, or on the G tab? How do you get one on the G tab? Through Market?
11. Calibrate touch screen as per instructions here.
12. Anything I've forgotten?
Thanks for your help and understanding for a complete novice.
This has all been posted before as you thought.
I would not worry about backing up when you first get it as there will be nothing really on it but the stock rom.
if you goal is to load a Rom like TNT or Vegan from day one.
Root
Clockwork Mod
load Rom
and away you go.
There are directions all over the place to the above.
Once you get the rom loaded and all setup then get titanium backup installed and do a backup. Save yourself hours and pay for the pro version, it will allow you to run batch backup/restores and not touch your tablet while it runs.
Hope that helps now go read and search while you await your Gtab and have FUN! that is what it is all about.
Chances are you wont even have to root first.
Install Clockwork
Partition
Install Vegan
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Chances are you wont even have to root first.
Install Clockwork
Partition
Install Vegan
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Thanks guys. I like the sound of these 3 simple steps, but what do you mean "chances are..."? Is it a random thing?
goog64 said:
Thanks guys. I like the sound of these 3 simple steps, but what do you mean "chances are..."? Is it a random thing?
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This is my first Android device but I'm good with PC's.
Anyway, I fired it up from new installed clockwork, did the partition 2048,0 as suggested and for me installed tnt-lite and all is good. It was probably stock for about 10 minutes of its life.
Thanks Stuggy. That's what I'll try (except with Vegan, I think).
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Thanks guys. I like the sound of these 3 simple steps, but what do you mean "chances are..."? Is it a random thing?
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For some reason I had to root first when I installed the update after the 3389 update. I think it was just me but it was just another step. Installed z4root, got root, and moved on
Thanks badfrog.
Just to give you an idea where I'm at.....I had no idea what 3389 is so I searched for it. Many pages came up, but they all assume a certain level of background knowledge that I don't have. Please tell me, is 3389 the ROM that comes with the G tab?
If so, why would you be updating that if you had a different ROM already installed (Vegan, TNTlite, etc)?
Other pages I've seen have said that installing Vegan or TnTlite IS rooting, whilst still other pages have said that installing clockwork mod is rooting? Is this correct?
I can't find out what rooting actually means because every page I find assumes the reader already knows what rooting is. I will keep searching for a site for android dummies (and stop wasting your time).
rooting a device is basically changing system permissions so that you have full access to read, write and manipulate all files on the device. In Linux if you are root you have total control over the system. I believe that I read somewhere that the GTab is already set so that you have total control. Other devices you would use an app like z4root and it would change the security settings so that you had root access.
hmmm....the plot thickens. Thanks Sm0k3d 0ut, I'm looking forward to confirmation of that to clear up my confusion!
Hello - New user here and planning to do the same. My tablet arrives today but my SD arrives next week.
Can I use an 128MB micro SD to do the Clock mod before the larger card arrives?
Thanks.
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Hello - New user here and planning to do the same. My tablet arrives today but my SD arrives next week.
Can I use an 128MB micro SD to do the Clock mod before the larger card arrives?
Thanks.
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Check this thread on clockwork
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=865245
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Thanks Stuggy. That's what I'll try (except with Vegan, I think).
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Try them both, they are both great roms and you will become more comfortable the more roms you flash.
Most important tools are this site and titanium backup "PRO"
copc said:
Try them both, they are both great roms and you will become more comfortable the more roms you flash.
Most important tools are this site and titanium backup "PRO"
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Thanks copc. I also read somewhere that backing up can be done with Clockwork. Is that true? If so, does a novice like me really need titanium backup?
Also, one more question: in case I ever want to restore to the stock ROM that the G tab comes with, do I need to do anything special BEFORE I install Clockwork and the new ROM? Or can I just change back to original no matter what I do now?
(G tab arrives tomorrow. Can't wait!)
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I also read somewhere that backing up can be done with Clockwork. Is that true? If so, does a novice like me really need titanium backup?
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I still haven't received my Zpad yet, so can't talk from experience. But from what I have read it seems that titanium backup backs up the apps (and maybe data?) and clockwork makes a ROM image of you Tablet (or something similar to that). So I think they are different types of backups and you should probably do both.
But I could be horribly wrong.
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I still haven't received my Zpad yet, so can't talk from experience. But from what I have read it seems that titanium backup backs up the apps (and maybe data?) and clockwork makes a ROM image of you Tablet (or something similar to that). So I think they are different types of backups and you should probably do both.
But I could be horribly wrong.
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You are spot on, Titanium Backup allows you to back up and restore individual apps and data (you can also use it to sideload apps you have already installed on another Android device). CW will make a backup of your entire system (internal SDCard) so you can restore if something goes awry.
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(I've spent a long time reading and I don't want to waste your time, so if the answers to this have been posted before please just tell me to keep searching.)
New G tablet arrives in 3 days. I have very little tech knowledge, but I enjoy the journey. Would someone mind please putting the following in the CORRECT order for me?
1. Fully charge G tab and turn it on
2. Install Titanium Backup on G tab (is this done like I would install an app on an iphone, or do I download to my PC and move it to the g tab?)
3. Backup stuff (everything)? To where? My PC?
4. Install clockwork as per instructions here (I think I'll use G tab's internal SD card)
5. Use clockwork to repartition internal SD card (2048 and 0)
6. Use clockwork to delete data and cache
7. Install Vegan 5.1 as per instructions here.
8. Install Flah and Market capability as per instructions here.
9. Install ADW launcher (not sure what this is, but it looks good on youtube). How do I install it? Is it like an iphone app installation, or...?
10. Some of the posts I've read mention a need for a file browser. Do they mean on my PC, or on the G tab? How do you get one on the G tab? Through Market?
11. Calibrate touch screen as per instructions here.
12. Anything I've forgotten?
Thanks for your help and understanding for a complete novice.
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1,4,5,7,8, and 11 in that order will get you in business. Titanium Backup should be installed after you get Vegan installed, as there is really nothing to back up in stock. Data and cache will be deleted as part of the partitioning process (that's how I've understood it), and a file browser is already installed with the Vegan image. #9 is just fluff, ADW is a great launcher, but is not necessary to get up and running. If I recall correctly, it will install like an app - you should be able to find it in the Market.
#12 - Though it is not necessary, Root Explorer is a real handy app to have if you are going to tear around with Android's inner workings. Less than $5 on the market, but I found it worth every penny so far.
You will find many different thoughts on the process laid out above, this is just worked for me when I was starting out. The most important thing is Clockwork. Do. That. First.
bevbeng said:
Hello - New user here and planning to do the same. My tablet arrives today but my SD arrives next week.
Can I use an 128MB micro SD to do the Clock mod before the larger card arrives?
Thanks.
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I did mine (CW .8 and TNTLite) from a 256MB card, and there was still plenty of room - a 128MB card should do you fine. In fact, if you are doing it from a PC (I can't confirm for Mac as I don't have one), you can install CW off of the card, use CW to partition the tablet storage, connect the tablet to your PC, and then use CW to mount the tablet as USB storage so you can copy over the ROM image to the tablet and install.
As far as CW, use the .8 version. I have heard of problems from others using newer versions, and it seems that .8 is what the devs recommend. You can find a link to it in here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=865245
BigJohn
Thanks BigJohn. I REALLY appreciate the time you took with that answer, and you explained it very clearly. My tablet arrives today (I hope), and you have given me a lot of confidence.
goog64 said:
Thanks BigJohn. I REALLY appreciate the time you took with that answer, and you explained it very clearly. My tablet arrives today (I hope), and you have given me a lot of confidence.
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Welcome to MOD-dom, it's awesome.
Has a ROM been made for the device yet?
As soon as one is made I will be one happy user as this tab has soooo much potential to be great
BEST DAMN PHONE BECAUSE WE HAVE THE BEST DAMN DEVELOPERS!
Yeah i know i need one now lol
bkundert21 said:
Yeah i know i need one now lol
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Why? What would you like a replacement firmware to do? Remove bloat? Do that with titanium backup (or anything else that can 'freeze' pre-installed crud.) Change the launcher? You can already do that (but it seems most of the replacement launchers are designed more for phones.)
What do you want different that you can't already change?
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Why? What would you like a replacement firmware to do? Remove bloat? Do that with titanium backup (or anything else that can 'freeze' pre-installed crud.) Change the launcher? You can already do that (but it seems most of the replacement launchers are designed more for phones.)
What do you want different that you can't already change?
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I gotta say I agree with Gary. Now that we have root and CWM (thanks to Gary) there's not much more I feel compelled to change I can already with root. Perhaps a custom kernel we can OC but this danged this flies now. Perhaps someone can come up with something that'll amaze us all (and that would be very cool!) and I'll be all over it. Right now with ICS looming it might be a better allocation of dev resources to just lay back and wait/see what that brings?
Now custom themes.....THAT would right now peek my interest. Learned a few things from hatman41 on the TF. This might be an excuse to dig back in.
Just an opinion.
skeeterpro said:
I gotta say I agree with Gary. Now that we have root and CWM (thanks to Gary) there's not much more I feel compelled to change I can already with root. Perhaps a custom kernel we can OC but this danged this flies now. Perhaps someone can come up with something that'll amaze us all (and that would be very cool!) and I'll be all over it. Right now with ICS looming it might be a better allocation of dev resources to just lay back and wait/see what that brings?
Now custom themes.....THAT would right now peek my interest. Learned a few things from hatman41 on the TF. This might be an excuse to dig back in.
Just an opinion.
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I'd like to see a r/w external sd card. Having it be read-only is forcing me to change my process of working. But I do agree with the others, with root and cwm the tab is very very good.
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I'd like to see a r/w external sd card. Having it be read-only is forcing me to change my process of working. But I do agree with the others, with root and cwm the tab is very very good.
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Really? I can change r/o to r/w and back again with Root Explorer in extStorages
skeeterpro said:
Really? I can change r/o to r/w and back again with Root Explorer in extStorages
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yes i can do that also, but even when it is in r/w, i cant say, save an excel file to the card using quickoffice or any other app for that matter. It will only let me save to the built in storage
otamctech said:
yes i can do that also, but even when it is in r/w, i cant say, save an excel file to the card using quickoffice or any other app for that matter. It will only let me save to the built in storage
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Interesting. I was just able to copy/paste from root to a folder on the exStorages and copy a file from the internal to the exStorages (an apk and an ePub)
Just re-read your post. From an app to exStorages. Hmmm...will try that.
Don't have quickoffice but polaris has very few options. Almost too few.
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I'd like to see a r/w external sd card.
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I'd like to see that as well, but it'd probably be a kernel change, not what people here call a ROM change. Let's see, here's how it's currently mounted:
Code:
/dev/block/vold/179:17 /mnt/sdcard/extStorages/SdCard vfat rw,dirsync,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,uid=1000,gid=1023,fmask=0002,dmask=0002,allow_utime=0020,codepage=cp437,iocharset=iso8859-1,shortname=mixed,utf8,errors=remount-ro 0 0
It's already mounted as read-write. The thing that's preventing normal user write access is the uid/gid combo with the fmask/dmask (not sure why samsung didn't just use a umask instead of both of the other masks.) Essentially, what that is doing is say that all the files and directories (including the root of the mount) are readable by anyone, but only writable to the "system" user, or a user in the "media_rw" group. I'm going to take a wild guess that the "camera" application, the "my files" application, and other samsung apps are in that "media_rw" group. (not sure how to check that...)
Interesting... I'm trying to remount it manually (mount -o remount,...) and while it's not giving any error, it's not working either.
I'm not sure how these "vold" mounts work, what options are valid for them, etc. It's an interesting issue, though...
All I want is a deodexed rom. Might have to break out android for dummies and learn how to.
Once we get that then let the theming begin.
Sent from my Insanity powered SGS2
Not to difficult i may give it a try soon.
deodex'ing honeycomb stuff isn't as easy as gingerbread and prior...
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deodex'ing honeycomb stuff isn't as easy as gingerbread and prior...
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I know, thats why I havent learned it yet lol.
However I am slowly figuring out theming while the rom is odexed. Got a few things going now
This device is powerful and awesome. Id love to be able to change themes and icons. The bloat ware doesn't get into the way and slow performance down. This devise will do me good for about 1 year to 1 1/2 years than ill upgrade to a new more powerful device.
this may help..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1373131
I will likely wait for a clockwork recovery to start ripping stuff apart.
this is my first sammy product, wife has a cappy that I flash. nota huge fan of touchwiz but its easy on the eyes compared to my past 2 devices, dell streak 7 & 5.
Moving this to a proper forum.
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I will likely wait for a clockwork recovery to start ripping stuff apart.
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Which model do you have? GT-P6210 (wifi only), GT-P6200 (international 3G) or SGH-T869 (USA/TMobile 3G)?
There's no CWMR for the p6200 (yet), but I've already done them for the other two.
P6200 3G from malaysia. no rush, patiently waiting. Im more than willing to help with any info needed. Thank so much.
chrisrotolo said:
P6200 3G from malaysia. no rush, patiently waiting. Im more than willing to help with any info needed. Thank so much.
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Are you fluent with a shell prompt? If so, in order to attempt a CWM recovery (based on what I've already done for the p6210 and t869), please run the following two commands as root via adb shell... (and copy the resulting information)
mount
cat /proc/partitions
.. that will give me a hint as to which partition is probably your recovery partition. Send me that info IN A PM. I'll respond via PM with some more commands (based on the info you send me, I'll need you to dump a partition or two and get the images to me.)
Once I have the proper information and images, I can PROBABLY make a successful CWM recovery image (but please understand that I'll have to recompile a kernel BLIND with no possible way to test myself.)
Take care
Gary
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I should also mention that I'm going to be VERY busy over the next 3 days, so even if I get the images and all works okay, the earliest I'd be able to have a recovery would be Thursday or so.
I have a Galaxy Gio GT-S5660V (Australia) with a 16GB SD card, having (currently) a 500MB ext2fs partition in addition to the FAT32 partition. I've rooted the phone with universal_gb_root_v20.zip and moved everything that can be moved to the SD card.
But I have installed some 42 additional apps (on top of those that came built-in), and despite uninstalling some built-in apps (using Titanium Backup Root Pro), am forever running out of storage. To the extent that I now can't update some storage-intensive apps (like Google Maps).
I know this is a developers' forum, and I'm not a developer. But it looks like the best place to come for the advice I need. I'm a raw beginner (this is my first and, so far, only smartphone), and am fearful of doing something to the phone that would reduce its usefulness or (worse) stop it working completely. So because the solution to my problem probably involves replacing the stock ROM code with a 'special' ROM, and those ROMs are so poorly documented, I have heaps of questions before I'm confident to proceed.
I've read the 'Big thread For New Users (Rooting, Flashing, Firmwares, Mods, Tips, Tricks)'. I've installed Odin 4.42, and think I understand how to download a new ROM to the phone (but of course haven't tried it yet!!). I looked for a GT-S5660V specific forum, but couldn't find one.
1. If I install a custom ROM, what happens to all the built-in apps that came with the phone? [Some of these are vital to me!] Obviously the basic phone/SMS/data, Bluetooth and WiFi functions must continue to operate correctly.
2. What happens to all the additional apps I've bought and installed?
3. I don't especially want to change the 'look and feel' of my phone. I just want to free up internal storage by using the SD card as an 'extension' to internal storage, so I can continue adding and updating apps without running out. So which ROM is likely to achieve this on the GT-S5660V (I'd particularly like to hear from any Australians who have ROMmed their GT-S5660V with this feature, since I've read warnings about ROM versions that are for the GT-S5660 but NOT the GT-S5660V)?
4. In case the custom ROM doesn't work for me, how do I backup my current ROM so I can reinstall it?
Sorry for the long (and paranoid!) post, and I hope someone here can help me. Many thanks.
PS: I enjoyed the 'Noob Video' - very professionally made!
Daniel
(Gerroa, Australia)
DanielFFF said:
1. If I install a custom ROM, what happens to all the built-in apps that came with the phone? [Some of these are vital to me!] Obviously the basic phone/SMS/data, Bluetooth and WiFi functions must continue to operate correctly.
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The only thing you'll have are what comes with the ROM you flash. That, of course, includes phone/SMS/data, Bluetooth and Wifi. If you run Astro (the free version is enough) you can save an apk file of any app you absolutely need, just to be sure it's available after you flash a ROM. (Then install Apk Installer, and it can install the apk file in the new ROM.)
2. What happens to all the additional apps I've bought and installed?
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See #1. You should have the apk files for all the apps you need (free, paid and original) saved to your laptop/desktop or somewhere.
3. I don't especially want to change the 'look and feel' of my phone.
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The look and feel is the apps. The "desktop" is the launcher. You may find some that you actually like better than the stock one.
I just want to free up internal storage by using the SD card as an 'extension' to internal storage, so I can continue adding and updating apps without running out.
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With CM you can use up to 1GB on the SD card as internal storage. (Making the partition larger than 1GB in CM seems to cause problems. There's at least one ROM that can take a larger partition, but there's no version for your phone.)
So which ROM is likely to achieve this on the GT-S5660V (I'd particularly like to hear from any Australians who have ROMmed their GT-S5660V with this feature, since I've read warnings about ROM versions that are for the GT-S5660 but NOT the GT-S5660V)?
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NEVER flash a ROM that's not for your specific phone. At best it won't work. At worst you won't be able to recover the phone and you'll have to buy another one.
4. In case the custom ROM doesn't work for me, how do I backup my current ROM so I can reinstall it?
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Use Nandroid backup in the recovery boot. (And save the backup to your computer - the SD card will get wiped.)
Re: Paranoid newbie questions re replacement ROM
Many thanks, Rukbat, you reply has been very helpful. But as with any learning process, your answers have raised new questions!...
Rukbat said:
The only thing you'll have are what comes with the ROM you flash. That, of course, includes phone/SMS/data, Bluetooth and Wifi. If you run Astro (the free version is enough) you can save an apk file of any app you absolutely need, just to be sure it's available after you flash a ROM. (Then install Apk Installer, and it can install the apk file in the new ROM.)
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I had Astro File Manager before, but uninstalled it when I started running short of storage, as I didn't think it offered anything that I couldn't do with ES File Explorer and Titanium Backup Pro. Do I really need to reinstall it, or will the backups from Titanium Backup do?
Rukbat said:
See #1. You should have the apk files for all the apps you need (free, paid and original) saved to your laptop/desktop or somewhere.
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I believe Titanium Backup Pro backs up user apps and data, so once I reinstall Titanium with the new ROM, I should be able to recover my previous apps, yes?
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With CM you can use up to 1GB on the SD card as internal storage. (Making the partition larger than 1GB in CM seems to cause problems. There's at least one ROM that can take a larger partition, but there's no version for your phone.)
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I'm guessing that 'CM' is CyanogenMod? I'm still looking for a version specifically for the GT-S5660V. It worries me (I really am paranoid! ) that so many versions are 'unofficial', and so poorly documented.
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NEVER flash a ROM that's not for your specific phone. At best it won't work. At worst you won't be able to recover the phone and you'll have to buy another one.
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This is what worries me most, as there are very few ROMs and such specifically made for the GT-S5660V – quite a few for the 'generic' Gio (GT-S5660), but few for the 'V' specifically. I read somewhere that the main difference is probably in the 3G frequencies used in Australia, and that some people had tried a 'generic' Gio ROM and lost some of their telephone functionality. Some mention of flashing the Modem code separately, but that just confuses me more!
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Use Nandroid backup in the recovery boot. (And save the backup to your computer - the SD card will get wiped.)
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I looked up Nandroid backup, and it seems to get this I need to install ClockworkMod Recovery. ROM Manager is also recommended as an adjunct, so I've already installed v5.0.2.0 of that. Just need to find a GT-S5660V version of ClockworkMod Recovery now! I guess since it doesn't affect telephone functionality, a version for the generic Gio should be OK, such as http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1421650
It's so confusing for a beginner like me, with so many different versions around!
But I really appreciate your help so far, and hope you can continue to enlighten me.
Hello Everyone!
I've bought my new Samsung Galaxy S Relay yesterday, so i'm typing from my new QWERTY keyboard. I decided that i'll need some external space for my phone and bought a 16GB San Disk SD card. On my old Samsung Galaxy Mini there was a function in App Manager to "Move to SD" but here there's no such function. So how can i move them to SD. I've checked in the internet and i found that people were usually complaining about the phone not allowing them to move and the solution was to root the phone, but here i don't even have that function. Please, can someone help me to move my apps to my SD? All the answers are appreciated....
I also read in the internet that your android device automatically installs games on SD if it sees that you are running out of memory.If that's right please tell me cause i didn't fully load my phone memory.
My android version is 4.1.2(i guess that"s JellyBean)
P.S.:I know that the rooting could be the answer,but i am really against it because i bricked one of my phones by rooting so i don't want that to happen.
HaykKarapetyan said:
Hello Everyone!
I've bought my new Samsung Galaxy S Relay yesterday, so i'm typing from my new QWERTY keyboard. I decided that i'll need some external space for my phone and bought a 16GB San Disk SD card. On my old Samsung Galaxy Mini there was a function in App Manager to "Move to SD" but here there's no such function. So how can i move them to SD. I've checked in the internet and i found that people were usually complaining about the phone not allowing them to move and the solution was to root the phone, but here i don't even have that function. Please, can someone help me to move my apps to my SD? All the answers are appreciated....
I also read in the internet that your android device automatically installs games on SD if it sees that you are running out of memory.If that's right please tell me cause i didn't fully load my phone memory.
My android version is 4.1.2(i guess that"s JellyBean)
P.S.:I know that the rooting could be the answer,but i am really against it because i bricked one of my phones by rooting so i don't want that to happen.
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Look up FolderMount in the Play Store. That's the best solution for your issues.
As for the risks of rooting: nothing ventured, nothing gained.
orange808 said:
Look up FolderMount in the Play Store. That's the best solution for your issues.
As for the risks of rooting: nothing ventured, nothing gained.
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Thanks for your respond dear orange808. I tried the FolderMount app and it requires root. So i guess the only thing i could do is rooting, but i still don't want to root my phone so i'll deal with my 5 GB internal storage...Thanks anyway, this could be useful for others
OK guys i decided to root my phone cause i can't just sit and stay calm knowing that i could be playing Asphalt8 or Real Racing3(maybe). So after rooting(i didnt root it yet) what apps should i use to move my apps or will "Move to SD" function be available after rooting?
Ok, so i see nobody wants to help, so i did all by myself. I succesfully rooted my phone then downloaded the app called root external 2 internal sd.So everything is fine now, i have a lot of memory. Also Titanium Backup is a good app to delete some crap on the phone(I'm sure most of you are familliar with this app, but just in case somebody doesnt know). So I hope this was useful.
I can help you
HaykKarapetyan said:
OK guys i decided to root my phone cause i can't just sit and stay calm knowing that i could be playing Asphalt8 or Real Racing3(maybe). So after rooting(i didnt root it yet) what apps should i use to move my apps or will "Move to SD" function be available after rooting?
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I can help, since I was sorta reluctant like you. Here are a few things you could do:
1) Link2SD is proven to work-it does on my SGH-T699. But you need not only root access, but a second partition on your extSDcard. By the way, the "Move to SD" command does not exist in the Relay's hardware or software. But with Link2SD, you can create symbolic links instead via the second partition. That can be done by using Mini Tool Partition wizard (free but some functions are limited)
2)You need a microSD full size adapter.
3)A media reader, internal or USB will do.
For root:
You need Odin. Odin allows you to flash recoveries (Like CWM- the latest version for apexqtmo is 6.0.3.8) and entire ROMs. Search around XDA and I'm sure you will find the links required to do all this. This is my second post, so I'm unfamiliar with citing other threads.
If you need more help, I'll be happy to.
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I can help, since I was sorta reluctant like you. Here are a few things you could do:
1) Link2SD is proven to work-it does on my SGH-T699. But you need not only root access, but a second partition on your extSDcard. By the way, the "Move to SD" command does not exist in the Relay's hardware or software. But with Link2SD, you can create symbolic links instead via the second partition. That can be done by using Mini Tool Partition wizard (free but some functions are limited)
2)You need a microSD full size adapter.
3)A media reader, internal or USB will do.
For root:
You need Odin. Odin allows you to flash recoveries (Like CWM- the latest version for apexqtmo is 6.0.3.8) and entire ROMs. Search around XDA and I'm sure you will find the links required to do all this. This is my second post, so I'm unfamiliar with citing other threads.
If you need more help, I'll be happy to.
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I use foldermount and have no issues with Real Racing 3 and other huge games, it works nicely.
Link2SD does something similar, but does FolderMount require root access? The Relay does not support native Apps2SD, so since Link2SD worked so well for me, I suggested it. Good suggestion, though.
Maybe I was too long winded.
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furboom1240 said:
I can help, since I was sorta reluctant like you. Here are a few things you could do:
1) Link2SD is proven to work-it does on my SGH-T699. But you need not only root access, but a second partition on your extSDcard. By the way, the "Move to SD" command does not exist in the Relay's hardware or software. But with Link2SD, you can create symbolic links instead via the second partition. That can be done by using Mini Tool Partition wizard (free but some functions are limited)
2)You need a microSD full size adapter.
3)A media reader, internal or USB will do.
For root:
You need Odin. Odin allows you to flash recoveries (Like CWM- the latest version for apexqtmo is 6.0.3.8) and entire ROMs. Search around XDA and I'm sure you will find the links required to do all this. This is my second post, so I'm unfamiliar with citing other threads.
If you need more help, I'll be happy to.
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Thanks for answering and good advices. I find the "Root External 2 Internal" app great too, you just have to learn how to use it(you can google it and im sure you will find the instructions).
I dont know much about android working stuff, so the rooting for me was a big risk and i dont think if theres any risk of bricking my phone whileflashing recoveries i would prefer not to do that.
I wish everyone Merry Christmas, Happy New Year and Great Holidays!!!
rad30n said:
I use foldermount and have no issues with Real Racing 3 and other huge games, it works nicely.
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By the way about Real Racing 3. The game works and plays perfect on my phone, but the stupid Google Play says its incompatible(i hope i spelled it right) with my phone. So i went to download it from other sources. Its not just the RR3, the GTA SA works perfectly, GTA VC, GTA 3, and there are a lot more games i dont remember, anyways, the question is if theres any app that can change it by root access(make it compatible) or something like that?
Thanks in advance.
Have you tried forcing a link via Titanium Backup? If you enjoy tinkering with apps at that level, then I would even buy the $5.99 USD key. This unlocks more features to come. This app (and its key) is available via Google Play. Search "titanium backup" and those will be the top two results.
Good luck.
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HaykKarapetyan said:
By the way about Real Racing 3. The game works and plays perfect on my phone, but the stupid Google Play says its incompatible(i hope i spelled it right) with my phone. So i went to download it from other sources. Its not just the RR3, the GTA SA works perfectly, GTA VC, GTA 3, and there are a lot more games i dont remember, anyways, the question is if theres any app that can change it by root access(make it compatible) or something like that?
Thanks in advance.
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Yeah... I dunno why. I installed RR3 from play on my Xperia Pro, then backed up the apk, and then moved to the Glide, and now to the Relay and I have the same question. Why the hell is it "not compatible"?
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Yeah... I dunno why. I installed RR3 from play on my Xperia Pro, then backed up the apk, and then moved to the Glide, and now to the Relay and I have the same question. Why the hell is it "not compatible"?
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I guess the phone is too old for them to care about it. But i found an app called BLACKMART ALPHA which a) allows you to download paid apps for free(not all apps from play store are included but most of them are) b)doesnt care if your phone is compatible or not with the app (Like it allows me to download rr3 or gta sa) c)if theres an update in the playstore it appears in it so you can easy update apps from there.
I couldnt find the app from google play (maybe because i wasnt looking for it carefully) but you can easily find it by google search.
Hope this will work for everyone.
furboom1240 said:
I can help, since I was sorta reluctant like you. Here are a few things you could do:
1) Link2SD is proven to work-it does on my SGH-T699. But you need not only root access, but a second partition on your extSDcard. By the way, the "Move to SD" command does not exist in the Relay's hardware or software. But with Link2SD, you can create symbolic links instead via the second partition. That can be done by using Mini Tool Partition wizard (free but some functions are limited)
2)You need a microSD full size adapter.
3)A media reader, internal or USB will do.
For root:
You need Odin. Odin allows you to flash recoveries (Like CWM- the latest version for apexqtmo is 6.0.3.8) and entire ROMs. Search around XDA and I'm sure you will find the links required to do all this. This is my second post, so I'm unfamiliar with citing other threads.
If you need more help, I'll be happy to.
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If you're partitioning your SDCard in this instance, can you partition it evenly? Like say if you have a 64GB SDCard, and partition it into two 32GB isolated sectors? I know the Relay can only see up to 32GB (there's a thread that tells you ways around it, though), but in this instance, would it see two 32GB sectors? Or, would you have to take a regular 32GB SDcard and divide it into two 16GB sectors?
You can determine the size yourself. It entirely depends on how much you want to allocate. If you've followed the instructions quoted, any size is possible. Just leave enough for your other needs that aren't related to link2sd. If my advice helps you and others hit "thanks" please. Good luck, I'll keep checking in periodically.
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The relay supports 64 GB SD Cards. Works fine with mine formated to ext4. I've filled it to capacity several times.
I know. I was just saying that he can put aside any of that 64 GB for use with apps2sd symbolic links.
EpicMike, I'd be interested as to how you fare in this process. It would educate me for sure. I currently use Link2SD for my symbolic links, but every ROM update temporarily disconnects these links. They are easily re-established by recreating the mount scripts within the app. Just thought you should know.
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HaykKarapetyan said:
Hello Everyone!
I've bought my new Samsung Galaxy S Relay yesterday, so i'm typing from my new QWERTY keyboard. I decided that i'll need some external space for my phone and bought a 16GB San Disk SD card. On my old Samsung Galaxy Mini there was a function in App Manager to "Move to SD" but here there's no such function. So how can i move them to SD. I've checked in the internet and i found that people were usually complaining about the phone not allowing them to move and the solution was to root the phone, but here i don't even have that function. Please, can someone help me to move my apps to my SD? All the answers are appreciated....
I also read in the internet that your android device automatically installs games on SD if it sees that you are running out of memory.If that's right please tell me cause i didn't fully load my phone memory.
My android version is 4.1.2(i guess that"s JellyBean)
P.S.:I know that the rooting could be the answer,but i am really against it because i bricked one of my phones by rooting so i don't want that to happen.
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I know i might get out of topic in this but anyways. Ive just accidentally uninstalled my CLOCK(that sounds too stupid,so iam stupid i guess). so could anyone back it up and send me the .apk file to [email protected] ...or if theres a function to attach it here(im not sure about it) pllease do so, cause i really need it.
Thanks everyone in advance.
There is a clock package elsewhere on xda. Just Google 'ported clock package jb' and click the first xda link visible. It should look like [PORT] at the beginning of the link. Follow all instructions and warnings on the thread. Click the correct links for your OS version, then you could use your recovery to flash the zip file. Or you could go to the play store and check out the clocks there. Should've said THAT first.
Good luck.
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