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mlb.tv???

Is it possible, even when flash is released, that we would be able to stream live media like that of mlb.tv? Is it possible to stream the gameday audio with the current makeup with the phone, has anyone tried yet? I really really hope mlb embraces android and puts something out there for us fans.

I am not sure if the graphics card of the g1 will be able to handle sporting events streams but radio stream probably wouldn't be an issue. Plusmo and a few other companies make great programs for keeping track of the scores and plays.

afoulke said:
I am not sure if the graphics card of the g1 will be able to handle sporting events streams but radio stream probably wouldn't be an issue. Plusmo and a few other companies make great programs for keeping track of the scores and plays.
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It's got no trouble showing movies stored on the SD card, so I'd imagine that streaming video should work ok too, so long as the data stream can keep up.

Yeah thats what I am not sure of is the data stream, Movies the system can prepare for what is coming next because it is saved in a file that never changes streaming video of live TV is a little different it really depends on how good the graphic card is and how well it can process the info as it is downloaded which from what I remeber the graphics card in the g1 isnt the greatest.

My guess is that when flash is here, most of all that will be possible, best over 3G/wifi of course, but there's no reason it wouldn't be possible. I wouldn't be surprised if there's TV apps in the making right now for Android.

How does the youtube client work, is the entire clip downloaded first?
I would guess the phone just caches a little, then starts streaming, and it sure works great for me.
I would like to be able to stream this:
mms://straumV.nrk.no/nrk_tv_webvid03_h
and similiar video streams.
~Christopher

That's a Microsoft WMV file.. it's unlikely to ever work unless Microsoft make a player for Android (I couldn't even get that stream to work under OSX with the microsoft supplied player.. probably DRM protected or something).
Android does H264 which is good enough for streaming (I expect that's what the youtube player is using). Now if someone could persuade the BBC iplayer to send its h264 streams to the G1 rather than trying to invoke flash...

TonyHoyle said:
That's a Microsoft WMV file.. it's unlikely to ever work unless Microsoft make a player for Android (I couldn't even get that stream to work under OSX with the microsoft supplied player.. probably DRM protected or something).
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I wasn't aware of that - I use Ubuntu Linux and watch this stream via my VLC player and it works great - guess the VLC player uses some fancy codec or something, I don't know. i just assumed that since it worked on my Linux desktop it might work on Android given the correct application - a bit naïve, I know...
Android does H264 which is good enough for streaming (I expect that's what the youtube player is using). Now if someone could persuade the BBC iplayer to send its h264 streams to the G1 rather than trying to invoke flash...
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The other day I downloaded nswPlayer, in the video section it has an 'enter URL' field but I'm not sure whether it means it can stream remote videos - probably not.
Are there any other Android players that would play H264 streams?
~Christopher

No idea how VLC does it, unless you've got the x86 codecs loaded from mplayer (which are just copies of the Windows ones).
I expect the browser can be persuaded to stream h264.. it's just Webkit after all.

UPNP/DLNA playback with seeking/searching?

To the G tablet users using UPnPlay, how do divx files do for seeking/searching? I'm using UPnPlay on my Evo with both Rockplayer and Vplayer and neither searches or seeks particulary well..... or at all. If the video file plays with Androids native video player, it seeks just fine.
I don't want to be forced to always begin playback and the start of the video and not be able to resume where I left off if I have to leave the player/app.

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To the G tablet users using UPnPlay, how do divx files do for seeking/searching? I'm using UPnPlay on my Evo with both Rockplayer and Vplayer and neither searches or seeks particulary well..... or at all. If the video file plays with Androids native video player, it seeks just fine.
I don't want to be forced to always begin playback and the start of the video and not be able to resume where I left off if I have to leave the player/app.
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I use upnplay with rockplayer and have found it to be hit or miss depending on the file. Some work really well, others not at all. My Xvid files seem to work pretty well, I tried an MKV and it was ok. I have a bunch of MP4 files that don't seek at all. I haven't really looked into it all that much yet.
Until something like the player in my little Archos5 comes around this is probably best we have for now.

Sprdtyf350 said:
I use upnplay with rockplayer and have found it to be hit or miss depending on the file. Some work really well, others not at all. My Xvid files seem to work pretty well, I tried an MKV and it was ok. I have a bunch of MP4 files that don't seek at all. I haven't really looked into it all that much yet.
Until something like the player in my little Archos5 comes around this is probably best we have for now.
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Thanks for the reply. Looks like that might be one of the few places where the Archos 101 has the Gtab beat.

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To the G tablet users using UPnPlay, how do divx files do for seeking/searching? I'm using UPnPlay on my Evo with both Rockplayer and Vplayer and neither searches or seeks particulary well..... or at all. If the video file plays with Androids native video player, it seeks just fine.
I don't want to be forced to always begin playback and the start of the video and not be able to resume where I left off if I have to leave the player/app.
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what software are you running on your computer as the server? i dont have a nas so need to find a server that is upnp compatible

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what software are you running on your computer as the server? i dont have a nas so need to find a server that is upnp compatible
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I actually have 3. Tversity, PS3 media server, and Orb. I don't actually turn on the media server feature for Orb, but I did try it with Upnplay, but that was the worst of all 3. Both Tversity and PS3 media server work about the same, but I get thumbnail previews with PS3 media server.
And before anyone asks why I have both Tversity and PS3 media server installed and running, I use the PS3 media server for...... drumroll..... the PS3, and the Tversity is for an old Dlink media player my son watches that doesn't work with the PS3 media server.

vwvapor said:
Thanks for the reply. Looks like that might be one of the few places where the Archos 101 has the Gtab beat.
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100% agree. The Archos media player is sweet. When I get time (never?) I really want to re-investigate this. So far I have not managed to port it, but I will keep trying.

roebeet said:
100% agree. The Archos media player is sweet. When I get time (never?) I really want to re-investigate this. So far I have not managed to port it, but I will keep trying.
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If anyone ever got that going, that would be sweet. Top notch hardware coupled with the best media player software = game over.

Serviio
ddarvish said:
what software are you running on your computer as the server?
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I'm running Serviio on WinXP.
For me, the server won't start on boot, and shows a pop up message "server not running". Probably because Java hasn't loaded yet.
Use a .bat file located in the bin folder to start it.
The console runs independent of server.
If you decide to try it, be patient during install. It appears to hang but it's loading Java 6 from the internet.

Question about video playback on WP7. any vlc like programs ?

hi
title say its all. is there any sort of program to play all kind of video files on the phone ? if i ever to buy any phone, i need to check this as its very important to me.
so ... any idea?

there's a app called vlc player at marketplace. and its not free...

fulat said:
there's a app called vlc player at marketplace. and its not free...
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This only allows you to control VLC on your PC, won't allow you to play anything on the phone.
Zune will convert 99% of the media it can't natively play and it will do it pretty quickly and with very good quality. At some point in the future we will most likely be able to copy/past files onto the device and use 3rd party video software.

ll_l_x_l_ll said:
hi
title say its all. is there any sort of program to play all kind of video files on the phone ? if i ever to buy any phone, i need to check this as its very important to me.
so ... any idea?
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every video I have on my computer has played on my hd7. These are mainly .avi files (downloaded tv shows and movies from graboid).

nrfitchett4 said:
every video I have on my computer has played on my hd7. These are mainly .avi files (downloaded tv shows and movies from graboid).
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\what about youtube files . flv files ?

youTube files .flv files, I suppose can't, as I usually download the YouTube videos with iFunia YouTube Converter and then it convert the flv files automaticly for me.
There are 2 players that normally can play many file type.
VLC player and Gomplayer, VLC is free~
here you can get: download.cnet.com/VLC-Media-Player/3000-13632_4-10267151.html

No dice as of now. Not possible without usb mass storage support, how else would you copy&paste the files over? The Zune software will only sync files it supports.
I'd say convert your .flv files to a common video format that every device can use, like .avi or .mp4 to name a few. I do it for my music videos downloaded from youtube. Those file formats should copy over easily. If not, zune will convert them effortlessly.
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thank you all for the reply. but the hell if i am going to back to converting movies before playing them. gone those days when i wanted to put movies on my nokia phone because it couldnt play **** but mp4 or 3gp.
i think i will hold on for a while. plus the fact i cant purchase paid apps because i dont live in the US is a deal breaker too.
i guess i should wait for while. bummer, i really liked the browser and the interface a little of the device.

so .. any updates since then or still nothing yet ?

Nope I wish there was though. I travel a lot and take that time to watch movies and tv shows on my phone. I still have to carry around my TP2 while I travel now to enjoy my media. I completely agree that the days of conversion should be over now. I used to laugh at other devices that couldn't play xvid natively and now I'm in that boat .
I really hope this feature emerges either natively or through a 3rd party eventually.

this is why 3 people I know of traded back to android again. they thought they could just ftp over a movie fike (like on ios) and play it on the phone.
one of them actually said "so my phone.... can't. share a file..... with other PHONES?"
then the other guys shook their heads and continued moving music around between themslves. no computers, no chords, and no transcoding.
the one guy bought a galaxy tab along with a thunderbolt, and tried to craigslist his samsung.
all because there is no fole support. wow.

Semi-convenient workaround
ll_l_x_l_ll said:
so .. any updates since then or still nothing yet ?
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After reading your post I decided to tinker a bit and found a semi-convenient workaround.
I tested downloading video releases for the iTouch and found that if I transfer them using the USB Device Enabler into the Storage\Video folder on my device choosing 'Don't convert just copy' when you transfer the video, then it shows up and plays back fine on the phone.
Obviously it would be ideal if i could playback any codec but for now this will do.

Stream videos from PC harddrive?

Does anyone know of a way of watching videos that are saved on my PC's harddrive on my phone via WiFi? It seems like this should be reasonably simple to do.
Thanks

Get MyMediaWP7 on the marketplace and have tversity on your pc. Great app.
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TVersity Pro (only this one have some sense) is buggy and extremely pricey. $70 for "household" license - what these guys are thinking?.. Also, Pro version out of box can transcode not more than 10% of my media (HDTV video rips).

sensboston said:
TVersity Pro (only this one have some sense) is buggy and extremely pricey. $70 for "household" license - what these guys are thinking?.. Also, Pro version out of box can transcode not more than 10% of my media (HDTV video rips).
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Huh? The OP was asking for a possibility to stream media from his home PC to his WP7 device. So why would it need TVersity Pro? I use the free server and the trial on my WP7. Streaming works absolutely fine even over 3G.

Free version can do "on the fly" transcoding for WP7? What kind of videos works fine on your PC (bitrate, dimensions, containers), and what is your's PC CPU? I've tried to transcode "on the fly" full HD rips packed to mkv (dual core P4, 2.8 GHz) - no luck at all.

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Free version can do "on the fly" transcoding for WP7? What kind of videos works fine on your PC (bitrate, dimensions, containers), and what is your's PC CPU? I've tried to transcode "on the fly" full HD rips packed to mkv (dual core P4, 2.8 GHz) - no luck at all.
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Most videos are simple divX encoded avi files. Transcoding works absolutely fine for me. Of course I wouldn't even try to watch a full HD RIP. Way too much data for transcoding and streaming on the fly.

Remote Potato 1.x and higher can be installed on computers running Windows XP or higher and no longer requires a Windows Media Center to work. There are several apps on Marketplace that can stream video files from Remote Potato to Windows Phone 7.

spokanedj said:
Remote Potato 1.x and higher can be installed on computers running Windows XP or higher and no longer requires a Windows Media Center to work. There are several apps on Marketplace that can stream video files from Remote Potato to Windows Phone 7.
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I thought that this seemed the most viable of the solutions, but Smart Potato doesn't seem to have any option anywhere to view videos, and Media Buddy fails to play anything giving errors.
And the server doesn't have an option to only allow local connections, which I think it should. Granted I can fix that in my firewall, but that's not the point.
I couldn't try the TVersity solution, even though MyMedia WP7 looks excellent, because I didn't accept their licence agreement.
Does anyone know of any solutions that work? Perhaps something that would work with an XBMC server?
Thanks

Since this thread is 6 months old, has there been any update on this? Like any new apps or imporvements in Mango to help streaming of video?
I want to find a way to reproduce the functionality of an app like AirVideo on my iPhone - I find WP7 VERY frustrating with the lack of decent streaming video apps and support. (In desperation I tried to write myself an HTML5 one but almost nothing plays on in IE9 in WP7 despite MS saying the versions on PC and WP7 are identical - guess it's a codec problem.)
Why is it possible for me to stream *any* video faultlessly via AirVideo on my 4 year old iPhone 3G but the latest, greatest WP7 phone from 2011 refuses to play anything not in MS's narrow range of accepted formats?!?! I just want to stream AVI and MKV files (not HD rips, just TV shows and music videos etc) to my Windows Phone!!

Try Qloud Media, very good app, streams almost any type of video file.
http://www.qiss.mobi/index_eng.html

Thanks for that - will try it out at home tonight... just one Q - does it stream most or all videos, transcoding on the fly, or do the videos already have to be encoded to WP7?

nzmike said:
Thanks for that - will try it out at home tonight... just one Q - does it stream most or all videos, transcoding on the fly, or do the videos already have to be encoded to WP7?
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It transcodes all videos on teh fly, I use it and it works really nice.

Excellent, thanks again. I've downloaded the trial version so I can't wait to get home and get it set up.... if it's as good as you say (which I'm sure it will be) I'll buy the full version. Then I can hopefully (finally!) ditch my old iPhone!

[Q] Video Players on WP7

Hi,
I want to enter da smartphonz world, and i'm makin a few research. About WP, I know the OS is completely locked up 'cause of M$, but I don't give a damn. Except on one point:
Is there applications which let me look at a .mkv video? And if I cannot, what happens with subs, especially .srt, and multiples soundtracks, Japanese/English/French as an example?
Thank you

For mkv files you'll need to convert them to mp4 and as for subs you'll need them merged into the video for it to be able to be seen on WP7

Okay.
So disappointing....
Android, here I come!

The lack of most common video codecs/container on Windows Phone 7 is becoming a serious problem indeed...
Where are Flv, DivX|Avi, Mkv container... etc???! .... What a shame.

Still hoping for it
Sent from my LG-E900 using XDA Windows Phone 7 App

You can sync nearly everything through zune...
But that's the only thing you can do atm...
But keep being positive: 'cuz cotulla and other devs working to unlock the phone in a way that we can write native apps and that would open the possibility to port other music/video player which include support for other codecs

arturobandini said:
The lack of most common video codecs on Windows Phone 7 is becoming a serious problem indeed...
Where are Flv, DivX|Avi, Mkv... etc???! .... What a shame.
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I have flv working. I am making a browser which will let you play megavideo files. I plan to include more video sites. It works quite well... Ill open a thread soon with more info

Chabun and Marvin, thank you. Hope isn't lost
But M$ stays M$: they will probably never support officially an open-source codec. Even iOS can play mkv, using alternative players.
I'm gonna search the web to find lore about Cotulla

since when is mkv a codec? MKV is a container, usually containing a non-open codec (h.264), which MS supports. All they need to do is support the container...

arturobandini said:
The lack of most common video codecs on Windows Phone 7 is becoming a serious problem indeed...
Where are Flv, DivX|Avi, Mkv... etc???! .... What a shame.
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Don't mix up containers and codecs, it's a different kind of things
BTW, for containers Silverlight has a great feature, custom container parser, called MediaStreamSource. So nobody preventing you from writing your own container support including Matroska (.mkv)
But WP7 video codecs are really limited to: MPEG-4 part 2, MPEG-4 part 10 (H.264), WMV9, H.263, and of course, raw RGB (you may implement your own decoding however w/o hardware acceleration it will be very slow/not possible).

sensboston said:
Don't mix up containers and codecs, it's a different kind of things
BTW, for containers Silverlight has a great feature, custom container parser, called MediaStreamSource. So nobody preventing you from writing your own container support including Matroska (.mkv)
But WP7 video codecs are really limited to: MPEG-4 part 2, MPEG-4 part 10 (H.264), WMV9, H.263, and of course, raw RGB (you may implement your own decoding however w/o hardware acceleration it will be very slow/not possible).
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You are right
I am not a developer. All I need is a native Avi player. I think it's the minimum I can expect from a smartphone nowadays.
Even my all business Blackberry Bold can read Avi movie files. Just a drag & drop via USB cable and I can watch my movies
With WP7 (and Zune) it's a mess and a waste of time.
Sometimes WP7 seems really hopeless...

arturobandini said:
Even my all business Blackberry Bold can read Avi movie files. Just a drag & drop via USB cable and I can watch my movies
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I understand your point. However why do not use a streaming video?
Instead "just drag&n&dropping" 4-6 GB HD movies in .mkv (what is not "just" but takes a veeeeery looooong time ) you may instantly transcode and watch video. AFAIK there are few existing solutions on marketplace (I do have my own - much-much better than existing apps but unpublished and still under very slow development - I'm implementing Mango features such as background queue downloader etc.)
The cons is - you need a powerful desktop PC/notebook, always on, to serve streaming but the pros is -you'll have your very own streaming server, transcode can be done in realtime (even for full HD movies!)
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I don't think so. Seems like MS have a "gradual" strategy to open new API's and features; also, xda whitehats working hard to build "freedom" ROM's for WP7 (probably, someone can port good native arm wince videoplayer).

Srsly, I don't understand what you mean. Do you want to stream movies just like cloud music, like a "mediaplayer dropbox"?
Don't you know that most carriers don't offer unlimited data plans? And in order to stream Full HD files, you need 4G don't you?
On board medias will be outdated one day, sure, but not now, unfortunately.
If I misunderstood your speech, just tell me
And thank you all for your explanation about the differences between codecs and containers, that was really useful.

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You misunderstood me completely
First (fortunately) WP7 is not limited to 3G connection only: there are WiFi and Ethernet (via USB).
Second, I already stream movies like "cloud music" Technically it works like: I have a "streaming server" (small WPF C# program, running on my home media server/player PC), and WP7 app, streaming video client (with ability to download and store media). PC program preforms a real-time "transparent" (on the fly) transcoding of medias, and "stream" (not a real stream of course) transcoded data to the WP7 player.
I don't have an unlimited data plan so my usual "scenarios" are:
- if I do have a WiFi access (most hotels/places etc.) I can easy browse media folders on my home PC and watch any movie;
- if I'm going somewhere without WiFi access (to the flight, campground, beach etc.) and want to watch movies, I've put some movies to the queue and download 'em via WiFi/Eth to the handset. Average size of 2 hours transcoded movie is about 600/800 Mb (actually it depends, what kind of adaptive stream mode I have chosen)
Average transocde frame rate (conversion speed) for the full HD video is about 90-110 fps on my PC. It's not too fast but I do have cache
So, in general my solution is useful and not so bad (I also have an Android tablets, with mounted network shares of my media folders. And most often, I can't play video because of player or network bandwidth limitation - full HD videos are huge!)

What is the usefulness of MKV beside pirating movies and tv shows? Tell me what do you mainly use MKVs for besize pirating?
If you can't afford netflix account and/or zune movies, then because you're either jobless or a pirating hoohaas.

Okay, I got it. A real player could be better, if I want to change options like subs or everything else while playing on my phone, but the "screen capture" erases all the troubles about codecs and co.
Other issue is the time spoilt because of the conversion on the computer, and not "live" on the phone. And it depends on your PC CPU, not on the smartphone processing unit. But you problably increase the battery life of the phone, don't you?
That's awesome, yep

Do we have CorePlayer & TCMP player on WP7
to play Videos ?
are there more players like these
where when we stop a video continues
from the exact place again ?
Thanks

stan2, we are talking about video player solution, not about piracy. Please stay on topic (of course if you have something to say)...

stan2 said:
What is the usefulness of MKV beside pirating movies and tv shows? Tell me what do you mainly use MKVs for besize pirating?
If you can't afford netflix account and/or zune movies, then because you're either jobless or a pirating hoohaas.
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Well you're right. I'm legally pirating contents not available in my area. This isn't an excuse, I know, but honestly, what should I do? I buy what I can buy: movies, music thanks to Amazon (I can waste around 100 bucks a month that way). But when it comes to underground japanese animation, whitout any official translation or dubbed version, the only way is mkv.
Edit: TV show? I don't watch this kind of crap, ty.

ilordvader said:
Do we have CorePlayer & TCMP player on WP7
to play Videos ?
are there more players like these
where when we stop a video continues
from the exact place again ?
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That IS the subject of this thread
And no, we don't have anything like that. TCMP is on WM.