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[Q] Can you stream from PC/MAC to TF101 using myNet?

I'm new to the world of Android having come across from the iPad and thought I'd try to stream from my home MAC to the Asus on the local network.
I installed Skifta and XBMC and managed to stream successfully (although 720p was incredibly stuttery).
Anyway, with the new update I started using myNet, but while I can send from the Asus to my Mac's XBMC I cannot send from the Mac to the Asus - the Asus thinks about playing, then stops. Anyone else managed this?
As a brief aside, should I be using something other than Skifta/XBMC? I tried Homepipe but it don't seem to stream, and there was no Mac server for Androstream as far as I could see.
Thanks!

Hi,
No-one tried this yet?

I've found the combination of UPNPlay and mobo player work great for streaming videos etc from my computer to the transformer. Both are free on the market. I've streamed 720p videos from my PC that worked perfectly using this method.
https://market.android.com/details?id=cx.hoohol.silanoid&feature=search_result
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.clov4r.android.nil&feature=search_result
On a vaguely related note, I'm hoping that the developers of Mirage Beta (find it on the market) will soon release a version for tablets. This app uses the Air Video server (which works great on the ipad) to stream/transcode content on your phone/tablet. It works pretty well at the moment on my HTC Desire, but won't work on the tablet.

I tried this last night for the first time, and while mynet in theory works a treat, finds all the UPnP devices ont he network, finds all the findable folders and media (and vice versa, other machines on the network can see the TF101 perfectly), none of the files i can see will play on the Asus. The default player starts and instantly crashes on any video, music or photo file. I am going to replace the stock one with a couple from the market and see if that helps, although ironically the video stock player on my Archos 70 works a wonderfully over the network.

Ipcress, yup, that is what I'm seeing.
If I use Skifta instead of MyNet all works fine (except those dreaded high profile h.264s.....)

I'm using a combo of Tversity, UPnPlay and Moboplayer, AVI's work fine but no dice with MKV's.
I've heard MP4's work so maybe converting the MKV's to MP4's might work ?.

I got told off the other day for referring to mkv files when in fact they are just containers and pretty much anything could be inside. You have been warned!
Converting using Handbrake etc will work but it is a pain to have to do. Thats why I miss Airvideo and the on-the-fly conversion.
Apparently there is something called Mirage Beta (?) which is similar on Android, but is isn't available for tablets yet.

I was having similar problems, my TF can see the movies on my shared drive, but when i click them it cannot play them using the 'my net' app.
I have installed 'PLEX'
http://www.appbrain.com/app/plex-for...lexapp.android
(and the server on my PC.)
you use the server program and add the folders you want shared, then you use the app and you can stream lots more formats than the 'my net' app and you can specify the transfer speed/bandwidth etc.
the server app grabs meta data for the files you add from the net and adds DVD cover art to your movies as well.
I didnt need to do any port forwarding or anything complex with it installed on Windows 7 home premium, it just works.
It also says it will work over 3G/4G but I havent tried yet.
(ps. on a side note, the few iPhone formatted mp4 files i have on my shared network stream ok through 'my net' so the problem is probably file format related / codec related.)

I also went with Plex after trying several different apps that claimed to stream. Plex was the only product that I found that streamed in HD and the quality looks great! Best $5 I ever spent!
Only downside to Plex is that Im not too thrilled about the interface. It shows all your movies in a grid, I really wish there was an option to display just the list of movies. I have quite a few movies in my collection so loading up all the movie covers can take some time and makes scrolling slower than hell. If they let you sort just by list without cover art, I'm betting it would scroll a whole lot better.

mug2k said:
I'm using a combo of Tversity, UPnPlay and Moboplayer, AVI's work fine but no dice with MKV's.
I've heard MP4's work so maybe converting the MKV's to MP4's might work ?.
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im surprised you had trouble, tversity is supposed to downconvert if needed. Not tried them myself, but this is the same setup im using.

I just got my transformer with the new 3.2 HC and having trouble streaming videos from my PC to my Transformer. I've followed the direction on the manual and also downloaded Moboplayer (moboplayer not seeing the files on my PC). Did anyone find a way to get MyNet working correct??

I've found Mynet to be largely unreliable as there are too many formats that it wont play.
I've found a great combination that works really well, and you can play anything as the video is converted on the fly.
Movie Player: MX Player
This player is capable to playing 720p videos very well, and I found it to be faster than Moboplayer​
UPNP Client: UPNPlay
this program is very easy to use and is used to fine the files​
Server: PS3 Media Server
This server is freeware and works on Windows and Mac. All you need to do is to manually enter your IP address, and make sure you have your android's UPNP Client running before you start the server.​

[Q] Alternative to MyNet for video streaming?

I've tried MyNet, and it finds my other PC's and the shared media. (Using Win 7 x64 and one homegroup). But in MyNet it fails to load any video I try to play.
Is there an app, maybe one I can install on the host PC, that will run in the background and transcode the video files to the proper resolution for the TF101? Something like PlayOn? Don't want to use MyCloud software because I don't need/want complete control of the host PC.
Maybe this can done through a network share instead, but was interested to hear what others have been using. Especially if there's a way to get MyNet to work.
Sorry if this has been asked and answered.

Playon has an android client that will work.
You can also check out Plex - plexapp.com - which will serve videos from your PC to your Transformer.

MyNet will only play formats natively supported by the Transformer.
I suggest you install MoboPlayer or RockPlayer as a movie player and UPnPlay as a DLNA client.
It's what I have installed, and it works like a charm.

Plex. It's $5 but it's fantastic. I've yet to find a file it wouldn't play. Plays my 1080p mkv's perfectly.

Thanks for the replies guys. I thought there was a simple way to do this!

Zach Alt said:
Plex. It's $5 but it's fantastic. I've yet to find a file it wouldn't play. Plays my 1080p mkv's perfectly.
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Well, it transcodes anything to very low quality mp4s on the fly, if you're happy with that cool but for those people who want HD content to look HD, it's not really an option.

SilentMobius said:
Well, it transcodes anything to very low quality mp4s on the fly, if you're happy with that cool but for those people who want HD content to look HD, it's not really an option.
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Lol what? It plays all my videos in HD.
You're doing it wrong. User error.

SilentMobius said:
Well, it transcodes anything to very low quality mp4s on the fly, if you're happy with that cool but for those people who want HD content to look HD, it's not really an option.
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It transcodes on the fly, with the best quality setting being 5mbps - which plays perfectly smoothly on the Transformer, and looks very, very good indeed.
For reference, typical good quality 720p MKV files are normally encoded at 3mps or less.
I can only assume you haven't actually tried Plex, or haven't changed the streaming setting from the default of very low bandwidth. I wouldn't like your comment to dissuade people with the server setup to handle it from trying Plex - it's a great solution if you want high quality streaming on your local network and have a decent box to run it.

Lorewin said:
It transcodes on the fly, with the best quality setting being 5mbps - which plays perfectly smoothly on the Transformer, and looks very, very good indeed.
For reference, typical good quality 720p MKV files are normally encoded at 3mps or less.
I can only assume you haven't actually tried Plex, or haven't changed the streaming setting from the default of very low bandwidth. I wouldn't like your comment to dissuade people with the server setup to handle it from trying Plex - it's a great solution if you want high quality streaming on your local network and have a decent box to run it.
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Nope, I bought the android app and set up the server on my home PC.
I found the server to be horribly unreliable (The python would choke at random point scanning my media, looks like poor exception handling on the part of the devs) and when it did work the results were muddy and had notable banding/artifacts even with the bitrate at max.
Which is to be expected, as quality h.264 encoding it very difficult to do real-time. But it's _far_ from playing "HD" content, even super-quick single pass re-encodes look better than what plex creates.

Give subsonic a try. www.subsonic.org It does mainly music streaming but it also has an on the fly transoding engine for video. It will stream them to you as flash. The server is pretty easy to set up only thing is there is a liscence fee for streaming video from the server after 30days but I think its only 15 bux definitely worth it. The android app is free and really good. I also used the web interface from my laptop while I'm at work to listen to music for the past few months (before I got the TF). The quality is good in my experience.
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SilentMobius said:
Nope, I bought the android app and set up the server on my home PC.
I found the server to be horribly unreliable (The python would choke at random point scanning my media, looks like poor exception handling on the part of the devs) and when it did work the results were muddy and had notable banding/artifacts even with the bitrate at max.
Which is to be expected, as quality h.264 encoding it very difficult to do real-time. But it's _far_ from playing "HD" content, even super-quick single pass re-encodes look better than what plex creates.
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This has been the exact opposite of my experience.

+1 for Subsonic. I mainly use it for music, but am now using the video transcoder function. I'd like to see the app updated to take advantage of tablets but for the cost, IMHO, it's doing now what Google Music is about to offer. Full access to every song I own, the ability to download locally, and being that I run from a whs server with duplication, I don't have to worry about losing anything. Course I gotta run my whs 24x7 but I do anyway.

im trying to get twonky mobile server working on my transfomer but it keeps hanging on scanning files for hours and hours

Zach Alt said:
Plex. It's $5 but it's fantastic. I've yet to find a file it wouldn't play. Plays my 1080p mkv's perfectly.
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I use Plex & it works great.

does plex support subtitles? I was looking at VLC Direct, but I guess that's not transcoding as much as streaming.

Is there anything like Air Video on the iphone?

Qloud server

Stream videos from PC harddrive?

Does anyone know of a way of watching videos that are saved on my PC's harddrive on my phone via WiFi? It seems like this should be reasonably simple to do.
Thanks

Get MyMediaWP7 on the marketplace and have tversity on your pc. Great app.
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TVersity Pro (only this one have some sense) is buggy and extremely pricey. $70 for "household" license - what these guys are thinking?.. Also, Pro version out of box can transcode not more than 10% of my media (HDTV video rips).

sensboston said:
TVersity Pro (only this one have some sense) is buggy and extremely pricey. $70 for "household" license - what these guys are thinking?.. Also, Pro version out of box can transcode not more than 10% of my media (HDTV video rips).
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Huh? The OP was asking for a possibility to stream media from his home PC to his WP7 device. So why would it need TVersity Pro? I use the free server and the trial on my WP7. Streaming works absolutely fine even over 3G.

Free version can do "on the fly" transcoding for WP7? What kind of videos works fine on your PC (bitrate, dimensions, containers), and what is your's PC CPU? I've tried to transcode "on the fly" full HD rips packed to mkv (dual core P4, 2.8 GHz) - no luck at all.

sensboston said:
Free version can do "on the fly" transcoding for WP7? What kind of videos works fine on your PC (bitrate, dimensions, containers), and what is your's PC CPU? I've tried to transcode "on the fly" full HD rips packed to mkv (dual core P4, 2.8 GHz) - no luck at all.
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Most videos are simple divX encoded avi files. Transcoding works absolutely fine for me. Of course I wouldn't even try to watch a full HD RIP. Way too much data for transcoding and streaming on the fly.

Remote Potato 1.x and higher can be installed on computers running Windows XP or higher and no longer requires a Windows Media Center to work. There are several apps on Marketplace that can stream video files from Remote Potato to Windows Phone 7.

spokanedj said:
Remote Potato 1.x and higher can be installed on computers running Windows XP or higher and no longer requires a Windows Media Center to work. There are several apps on Marketplace that can stream video files from Remote Potato to Windows Phone 7.
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I thought that this seemed the most viable of the solutions, but Smart Potato doesn't seem to have any option anywhere to view videos, and Media Buddy fails to play anything giving errors.
And the server doesn't have an option to only allow local connections, which I think it should. Granted I can fix that in my firewall, but that's not the point.
I couldn't try the TVersity solution, even though MyMedia WP7 looks excellent, because I didn't accept their licence agreement.
Does anyone know of any solutions that work? Perhaps something that would work with an XBMC server?
Thanks

Since this thread is 6 months old, has there been any update on this? Like any new apps or imporvements in Mango to help streaming of video?
I want to find a way to reproduce the functionality of an app like AirVideo on my iPhone - I find WP7 VERY frustrating with the lack of decent streaming video apps and support. (In desperation I tried to write myself an HTML5 one but almost nothing plays on in IE9 in WP7 despite MS saying the versions on PC and WP7 are identical - guess it's a codec problem.)
Why is it possible for me to stream *any* video faultlessly via AirVideo on my 4 year old iPhone 3G but the latest, greatest WP7 phone from 2011 refuses to play anything not in MS's narrow range of accepted formats?!?! I just want to stream AVI and MKV files (not HD rips, just TV shows and music videos etc) to my Windows Phone!!

Try Qloud Media, very good app, streams almost any type of video file.
http://www.qiss.mobi/index_eng.html

Thanks for that - will try it out at home tonight... just one Q - does it stream most or all videos, transcoding on the fly, or do the videos already have to be encoded to WP7?

nzmike said:
Thanks for that - will try it out at home tonight... just one Q - does it stream most or all videos, transcoding on the fly, or do the videos already have to be encoded to WP7?
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It transcodes all videos on teh fly, I use it and it works really nice.

Excellent, thanks again. I've downloaded the trial version so I can't wait to get home and get it set up.... if it's as good as you say (which I'm sure it will be) I'll buy the full version. Then I can hopefully (finally!) ditch my old iPhone!

[Q] Video Players on WP7

Hi,
I want to enter da smartphonz world, and i'm makin a few research. About WP, I know the OS is completely locked up 'cause of M$, but I don't give a damn. Except on one point:
Is there applications which let me look at a .mkv video? And if I cannot, what happens with subs, especially .srt, and multiples soundtracks, Japanese/English/French as an example?
Thank you

For mkv files you'll need to convert them to mp4 and as for subs you'll need them merged into the video for it to be able to be seen on WP7

Okay.
So disappointing....
Android, here I come!

The lack of most common video codecs/container on Windows Phone 7 is becoming a serious problem indeed...
Where are Flv, DivX|Avi, Mkv container... etc???! .... What a shame.

Still hoping for it
Sent from my LG-E900 using XDA Windows Phone 7 App

You can sync nearly everything through zune...
But that's the only thing you can do atm...
But keep being positive: 'cuz cotulla and other devs working to unlock the phone in a way that we can write native apps and that would open the possibility to port other music/video player which include support for other codecs

arturobandini said:
The lack of most common video codecs on Windows Phone 7 is becoming a serious problem indeed...
Where are Flv, DivX|Avi, Mkv... etc???! .... What a shame.
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I have flv working. I am making a browser which will let you play megavideo files. I plan to include more video sites. It works quite well... Ill open a thread soon with more info

Chabun and Marvin, thank you. Hope isn't lost
But M$ stays M$: they will probably never support officially an open-source codec. Even iOS can play mkv, using alternative players.
I'm gonna search the web to find lore about Cotulla

since when is mkv a codec? MKV is a container, usually containing a non-open codec (h.264), which MS supports. All they need to do is support the container...

arturobandini said:
The lack of most common video codecs on Windows Phone 7 is becoming a serious problem indeed...
Where are Flv, DivX|Avi, Mkv... etc???! .... What a shame.
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Don't mix up containers and codecs, it's a different kind of things
BTW, for containers Silverlight has a great feature, custom container parser, called MediaStreamSource. So nobody preventing you from writing your own container support including Matroska (.mkv)
But WP7 video codecs are really limited to: MPEG-4 part 2, MPEG-4 part 10 (H.264), WMV9, H.263, and of course, raw RGB (you may implement your own decoding however w/o hardware acceleration it will be very slow/not possible).

sensboston said:
Don't mix up containers and codecs, it's a different kind of things
BTW, for containers Silverlight has a great feature, custom container parser, called MediaStreamSource. So nobody preventing you from writing your own container support including Matroska (.mkv)
But WP7 video codecs are really limited to: MPEG-4 part 2, MPEG-4 part 10 (H.264), WMV9, H.263, and of course, raw RGB (you may implement your own decoding however w/o hardware acceleration it will be very slow/not possible).
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You are right
I am not a developer. All I need is a native Avi player. I think it's the minimum I can expect from a smartphone nowadays.
Even my all business Blackberry Bold can read Avi movie files. Just a drag & drop via USB cable and I can watch my movies
With WP7 (and Zune) it's a mess and a waste of time.
Sometimes WP7 seems really hopeless...

arturobandini said:
Even my all business Blackberry Bold can read Avi movie files. Just a drag & drop via USB cable and I can watch my movies
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I understand your point. However why do not use a streaming video?
Instead "just drag&n&dropping" 4-6 GB HD movies in .mkv (what is not "just" but takes a veeeeery looooong time ) you may instantly transcode and watch video. AFAIK there are few existing solutions on marketplace (I do have my own - much-much better than existing apps but unpublished and still under very slow development - I'm implementing Mango features such as background queue downloader etc.)
The cons is - you need a powerful desktop PC/notebook, always on, to serve streaming but the pros is -you'll have your very own streaming server, transcode can be done in realtime (even for full HD movies!)
arturobandini said:
Sometimes WP7 seems really hopeless...
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I don't think so. Seems like MS have a "gradual" strategy to open new API's and features; also, xda whitehats working hard to build "freedom" ROM's for WP7 (probably, someone can port good native arm wince videoplayer).

Srsly, I don't understand what you mean. Do you want to stream movies just like cloud music, like a "mediaplayer dropbox"?
Don't you know that most carriers don't offer unlimited data plans? And in order to stream Full HD files, you need 4G don't you?
On board medias will be outdated one day, sure, but not now, unfortunately.
If I misunderstood your speech, just tell me
And thank you all for your explanation about the differences between codecs and containers, that was really useful.

Fealakwen said:
If I misunderstood your speech, just tell me
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You misunderstood me completely
First (fortunately) WP7 is not limited to 3G connection only: there are WiFi and Ethernet (via USB).
Second, I already stream movies like "cloud music" Technically it works like: I have a "streaming server" (small WPF C# program, running on my home media server/player PC), and WP7 app, streaming video client (with ability to download and store media). PC program preforms a real-time "transparent" (on the fly) transcoding of medias, and "stream" (not a real stream of course) transcoded data to the WP7 player.
I don't have an unlimited data plan so my usual "scenarios" are:
- if I do have a WiFi access (most hotels/places etc.) I can easy browse media folders on my home PC and watch any movie;
- if I'm going somewhere without WiFi access (to the flight, campground, beach etc.) and want to watch movies, I've put some movies to the queue and download 'em via WiFi/Eth to the handset. Average size of 2 hours transcoded movie is about 600/800 Mb (actually it depends, what kind of adaptive stream mode I have chosen)
Average transocde frame rate (conversion speed) for the full HD video is about 90-110 fps on my PC. It's not too fast but I do have cache
So, in general my solution is useful and not so bad (I also have an Android tablets, with mounted network shares of my media folders. And most often, I can't play video because of player or network bandwidth limitation - full HD videos are huge!)

What is the usefulness of MKV beside pirating movies and tv shows? Tell me what do you mainly use MKVs for besize pirating?
If you can't afford netflix account and/or zune movies, then because you're either jobless or a pirating hoohaas.

Okay, I got it. A real player could be better, if I want to change options like subs or everything else while playing on my phone, but the "screen capture" erases all the troubles about codecs and co.
Other issue is the time spoilt because of the conversion on the computer, and not "live" on the phone. And it depends on your PC CPU, not on the smartphone processing unit. But you problably increase the battery life of the phone, don't you?
That's awesome, yep

Do we have CorePlayer & TCMP player on WP7
to play Videos ?
are there more players like these
where when we stop a video continues
from the exact place again ?
Thanks

stan2, we are talking about video player solution, not about piracy. Please stay on topic (of course if you have something to say)...

stan2 said:
What is the usefulness of MKV beside pirating movies and tv shows? Tell me what do you mainly use MKVs for besize pirating?
If you can't afford netflix account and/or zune movies, then because you're either jobless or a pirating hoohaas.
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Well you're right. I'm legally pirating contents not available in my area. This isn't an excuse, I know, but honestly, what should I do? I buy what I can buy: movies, music thanks to Amazon (I can waste around 100 bucks a month that way). But when it comes to underground japanese animation, whitout any official translation or dubbed version, the only way is mkv.
Edit: TV show? I don't watch this kind of crap, ty.

ilordvader said:
Do we have CorePlayer & TCMP player on WP7
to play Videos ?
are there more players like these
where when we stop a video continues
from the exact place again ?
Thanks
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That IS the subject of this thread
And no, we don't have anything like that. TCMP is on WM.

Question about 8.1 RT and video playback

Hey guys,
My dad just got a Windows 8.1 RT surface. Im not sure which one he has. Im an android and pc junky, but havent had a chance to play around with RT really. Essentially, I just loaded up an external HDD with a bunch of AVIs, MP4s, and a few MKVs. Are these formats supported, either natively or with 3rd party apps? From what I can tell AVIs and MP4s are, but is there something out there that is a lot better than the stock video player?
Another question: On my android device, I can go to websites like gorillavid or putlocker, copy the video stream link, and open it in my video player, which allows for a lot smoother playback. Anything like this for Windows RT?

xFaultx said:
Hey guys,
My dad just got a Windows 8.1 RT surface. Im not sure which one he has. Im an android and pc junky, but havent had a chance to play around with RT really. Essentially, I just loaded up an external HDD with a bunch of AVIs, MP4s, and a few MKVs. Are these formats supported, either natively or with 3rd party apps? From what I can tell AVIs and MP4s are, but is there something out there that is a lot better than the stock video player?
Another question: On my android device, I can go to websites like gorillavid or putlocker, copy the video stream link, and open it in my video player, which allows for a lot smoother playback. Anything like this for Windows RT?
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Mobile HD Media Player works with MKV files. It cost around $3.50AUD from store but no hassles and not sure if your tablet is jailbroken.
Not sure how well it streams though as I use PLEX media server to stream all my media when around the house - no free wifi that can be used worth a damn around Australia and not streaming over Mobiile Internet with our prices....

ultramag69 said:
Mobile HD Media Player works with MKV files. It cost around $3.50AUD from store but no hassles and not sure if your tablet is jailbroken.
Not sure how well it streams though as I use PLEX media server to stream all my media when around the house - no free wifi that can be used worth a damn around Australia and not streaming over Mobiile Internet with our prices....
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Does it support subtitles?
Sent with Virtue

Ace42 said:
Does it support subtitles?
Sent with Virtue
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Yep. It does on the MKV files that have them included in the MKV container.
Haven't tried an AVI file with sub files in the same folder yet, my movies are (mostly) in English...

Vlc is launching their app on the windows store in this month, or probably the next one.

I use Media Browser for streaming. It looks and works much better than skype.

xFaultx said:
Hey guys,
My dad just got a Windows 8.1 RT surface. Im not sure which one he has. Im an android and pc junky, but havent had a chance to play around with RT really. Essentially, I just loaded up an external HDD with a bunch of AVIs, MP4s, and a few MKVs. Are these formats supported, either natively or with 3rd party apps? From what I can tell AVIs and MP4s are, but is there something out there that is a lot better than the stock video player?
Another question: On my android device, I can go to websites like gorillavid or putlocker, copy the video stream link, and open it in my video player, which allows for a lot smoother playback. Anything like this for Windows RT?
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PowerDVDMobile is the most flexible player on the store with my files (mostly MKV, MP4) - costly, but it's pretty much a one stop solution.