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mlb.tv???

Is it possible, even when flash is released, that we would be able to stream live media like that of mlb.tv? Is it possible to stream the gameday audio with the current makeup with the phone, has anyone tried yet? I really really hope mlb embraces android and puts something out there for us fans.

I am not sure if the graphics card of the g1 will be able to handle sporting events streams but radio stream probably wouldn't be an issue. Plusmo and a few other companies make great programs for keeping track of the scores and plays.

afoulke said:
I am not sure if the graphics card of the g1 will be able to handle sporting events streams but radio stream probably wouldn't be an issue. Plusmo and a few other companies make great programs for keeping track of the scores and plays.
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It's got no trouble showing movies stored on the SD card, so I'd imagine that streaming video should work ok too, so long as the data stream can keep up.

Yeah thats what I am not sure of is the data stream, Movies the system can prepare for what is coming next because it is saved in a file that never changes streaming video of live TV is a little different it really depends on how good the graphic card is and how well it can process the info as it is downloaded which from what I remeber the graphics card in the g1 isnt the greatest.

My guess is that when flash is here, most of all that will be possible, best over 3G/wifi of course, but there's no reason it wouldn't be possible. I wouldn't be surprised if there's TV apps in the making right now for Android.

How does the youtube client work, is the entire clip downloaded first?
I would guess the phone just caches a little, then starts streaming, and it sure works great for me.
I would like to be able to stream this:
mms://straumV.nrk.no/nrk_tv_webvid03_h
and similiar video streams.
~Christopher

That's a Microsoft WMV file.. it's unlikely to ever work unless Microsoft make a player for Android (I couldn't even get that stream to work under OSX with the microsoft supplied player.. probably DRM protected or something).
Android does H264 which is good enough for streaming (I expect that's what the youtube player is using). Now if someone could persuade the BBC iplayer to send its h264 streams to the G1 rather than trying to invoke flash...

TonyHoyle said:
That's a Microsoft WMV file.. it's unlikely to ever work unless Microsoft make a player for Android (I couldn't even get that stream to work under OSX with the microsoft supplied player.. probably DRM protected or something).
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I wasn't aware of that - I use Ubuntu Linux and watch this stream via my VLC player and it works great - guess the VLC player uses some fancy codec or something, I don't know. i just assumed that since it worked on my Linux desktop it might work on Android given the correct application - a bit naïve, I know...
Android does H264 which is good enough for streaming (I expect that's what the youtube player is using). Now if someone could persuade the BBC iplayer to send its h264 streams to the G1 rather than trying to invoke flash...
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The other day I downloaded nswPlayer, in the video section it has an 'enter URL' field but I'm not sure whether it means it can stream remote videos - probably not.
Are there any other Android players that would play H264 streams?
~Christopher

No idea how VLC does it, unless you've got the x86 codecs loaded from mplayer (which are just copies of the Windows ones).
I expect the browser can be persuaded to stream h264.. it's just Webkit after all.

A way to stream from PC to WP7 device?

Hi all
I'd like to be able to stream videos which are on my desktop PC to my phone possibly via some server/client set-up and the wireless network. To my surprise I haven't been able to find anything in the marketplace which advertises this ability. I'd very much like it if VLC could be used as the server but that's only incidental.
Thanks

try using ORB

orb doesn't support wp7, and on their forum they said maybe in the future...

If you serve up compatible (ie MP4 or WMV) files via http to the WP7 browser then these will apparently open the Zune player on the phone and the content will stream. I have not tried this yet myself however.
What I am planning on doing this weekend though is trying out TVersity (google is your friend). From what I can see, this software runs a server that allows you to access all your media (music, photos, video etc) from phones, other PCs, media players etc. It has the major advantage of optionally converting file formats on the go.
What I'm hoping to do with this is:
1. Set up TVersity server on my home HTPC
2. Browse my media collection using the TVersity server with IE on my WP7 (this tutorial suggests this should be possible)
3. Clicking on MP4 files should play them natively with the Zune software on the phone, and other formats should be converted to MP4 on the fly by TVersity (need to look into TVersity to make sure it can actually do this!)
4. Play files
5. ???
6. Profit!
I'm going to try this with the free version of TVersity first to make sure it works as I think it does. If it does, great. If not, I'm stuck converting my AVIs to MP4 and copying them to my phone. Also try out "Send to WP7"; the latest update allows you to right-click an MP4 on your desktop and send a local link to your phone so you can stream directly over Wifi.
But really somebody should make a server / app combo for WP7 that serves up media nice and easy.
EDIT: I've actually tried the above, and it works. You can access TVersity if you're connected by Wifi with your IP address (http://192.168.1.9:4321 or whatever) and you are provided a file browser to browse all your media. Selecting a video file automatically transcoded the AVI to WMV which looks pixel perfect and very good quality (widescreen and all) on my HD7. It opens in Zune player, so all you can really do is pause / play, fast forward and rewind. No scrubbing or anything.
Positives:
-Allows you to play any AVIs / divx videos in your library without converting beforehand
-Streaming quality is perfect and smooth
-Possible to stream over the internet (3G) if you want (you can set a username and password)
Negatives:
-TVersity menu looks poor on the phone and is difficult to navigate; some text is huge while other text is tiny
-Once you start streaming a TV show / Movie, there is no way of stopping the transcoding at the server side. ie If you start watching a 40 minute 350mb show but decide after a few seconds you want to watch another one, TVersity doesn't seem to have any way of telling that you've navigated away from the show. Which means that the server computer running TVersity and doing the transcoding (which is my case is an oldish laptop in a cupboard) will continue to transcode the entire episode for the duration of the show. This has the very unwelcome side effect of almost maxing out the CPU on the server for those 40 minutes. And if you start watching another episode, that starts transcoding too... server is crippled after a while. The only way to stop transcoding is by manually restarting the TVersity service on the server, which cannot be done remotely.
In fairness the issues here are not caused by WP7, they seem to be TVersity issues. I thnk they would be easily fixed with an official TVersity browser app that would solve the navigation issues and would tell the server to stop transcoding when you quit watching a video.
On the other hand, we wouldn't have these issues if WP7 would just support AVI / divx like they promised they would originally... ;-)

I was actually tinkering with this tonight.. I was about to hit the hay when I saw this thread.. so i will chime in..
I went as far as to install a WAMP setup on my Media PC / Server. Then in my doc root I would structure my videos, mp3's photos, etc..
I did some port forwarding on my router and poked some holes in my firewall so my Media Server could listen on port 80.. so my laptop pulled server good..
I also own the HD7, and what I also confirmed was that i could hit the server from IE on the phone..and stream .wmv's successfully.. kewl..
Now all I need to do is develop a better webpage to house the content and make it look good.. possible MetroUI look.. scroll to the right or left instead of up and down.. I am also trying to include ffmpeg so I can have the functionality of the website taking a thumnail of the video upon upload and using it as the img src for the link to the video in my WP7-web-app..
Makes it even better that PHP is compiled on the server so i can do some trick things for the website..
I miss TCPMP...

Try PS3 Media Server instead of TVersity. I've found PS3 Media Server to be more welcoming to various devices (as well as being more stable).

Audio said:
Try PS3 Media Server instead of TVersity. I've found PS3 Media Server to be more welcoming to various devices (as well as being more stable).
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I already use ps3 media server for my ps3, but how can I use it with my HD7?

You could try Smart Potato. It does interact with WMC.

As far as I can recall, TwonkyMediaServer supports a load of devices as well as streaming over the interweb.

VLC PLay is available on the zune marketplace and uses VLC on pc as a host.

welki1979 said:
VLC PLay is available on the zune marketplace and uses VLC on pc as a host.
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It appears to only [optionally] stream audio. It's a controller, not an endpoint.

Why can't my Samsung Focus connect?
Hey, I just recently got TVersity and got it to work fine on my ps3...however, I am unable to connect on my wp7... I tried to go to the localhost url in IE but to no avail. Would creating a podcast of the info and adding that podcast to my Zune player work?

How did you get TVersity to output WMV??
wheresmybeaver said:
Selecting a video file automatically transcoded the AVI to WMV which looks pixel perfect and very good quality (widescreen and all) on my HD7.
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How the hell did you get the files to transcode into WMV??? I tried setting it up but it was only transcoding into MPG. What settings did you use in TVersity?
My transcoding settings are:
Only when needed
Video Resolution: 640 by 480
Image Resolution: 1280 by 1024
Use DirectShow: Windows Media Video 7
Quality
Wireless G - Connection Quality High
Decode media as fast as possible
I also set the Media Playback Device to Auto Detect. Should I change this to a different profile?

JukeFly is the best streaming app for music....

What would be nice is if they allowed VPN connections. Then i could vpn to my home network and browse to my server and use an app (yet to be created) to launch videos from my server. Did it on my android phone. Kind of miss it =(

While not an option yet, Microsofts next version of Windows Home server is going to have Windows Phone 7 integration. The next public release version that is suppose to support this functionality is rumored to come out some time in February. From using earlier builds of Vail (code-name for new version) it will do transcoding of media files and hopefully some of the issues that I experienced in the early beta versions will be resolved when the near final release is available.
http://windowsteamblog.com/windows/...07/windows-home-server-goes-mobile-phone.aspx

I've had some success streaming to my phone using Tversity when transcoding to WMV8, it's worked pretty well.
I'm in the process of coding up a rudimentary UI for the phone instead of using the browser.

I would be interested in your progress... also.. can you share your setup using Tversity?
I am getting slow streaming using http over WLAN.. it works.. but is choppy at times..

I've got an app with full media streaming in the works also, just need to iron out some of the transcoding issues - but with the right settings I've had flawless video (more or less) even over a normal 3G connection.

Let me get this straight..
what you guys are doing is having the video transcoded on the server as the device requests it on the fly?

[Q] Can you stream from PC/MAC to TF101 using myNet?

I'm new to the world of Android having come across from the iPad and thought I'd try to stream from my home MAC to the Asus on the local network.
I installed Skifta and XBMC and managed to stream successfully (although 720p was incredibly stuttery).
Anyway, with the new update I started using myNet, but while I can send from the Asus to my Mac's XBMC I cannot send from the Mac to the Asus - the Asus thinks about playing, then stops. Anyone else managed this?
As a brief aside, should I be using something other than Skifta/XBMC? I tried Homepipe but it don't seem to stream, and there was no Mac server for Androstream as far as I could see.
Thanks!

Hi,
No-one tried this yet?

I've found the combination of UPNPlay and mobo player work great for streaming videos etc from my computer to the transformer. Both are free on the market. I've streamed 720p videos from my PC that worked perfectly using this method.
https://market.android.com/details?id=cx.hoohol.silanoid&feature=search_result
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.clov4r.android.nil&feature=search_result
On a vaguely related note, I'm hoping that the developers of Mirage Beta (find it on the market) will soon release a version for tablets. This app uses the Air Video server (which works great on the ipad) to stream/transcode content on your phone/tablet. It works pretty well at the moment on my HTC Desire, but won't work on the tablet.

I tried this last night for the first time, and while mynet in theory works a treat, finds all the UPnP devices ont he network, finds all the findable folders and media (and vice versa, other machines on the network can see the TF101 perfectly), none of the files i can see will play on the Asus. The default player starts and instantly crashes on any video, music or photo file. I am going to replace the stock one with a couple from the market and see if that helps, although ironically the video stock player on my Archos 70 works a wonderfully over the network.

Ipcress, yup, that is what I'm seeing.
If I use Skifta instead of MyNet all works fine (except those dreaded high profile h.264s.....)

I'm using a combo of Tversity, UPnPlay and Moboplayer, AVI's work fine but no dice with MKV's.
I've heard MP4's work so maybe converting the MKV's to MP4's might work ?.

I got told off the other day for referring to mkv files when in fact they are just containers and pretty much anything could be inside. You have been warned!
Converting using Handbrake etc will work but it is a pain to have to do. Thats why I miss Airvideo and the on-the-fly conversion.
Apparently there is something called Mirage Beta (?) which is similar on Android, but is isn't available for tablets yet.

I was having similar problems, my TF can see the movies on my shared drive, but when i click them it cannot play them using the 'my net' app.
I have installed 'PLEX'
http://www.appbrain.com/app/plex-for...lexapp.android
(and the server on my PC.)
you use the server program and add the folders you want shared, then you use the app and you can stream lots more formats than the 'my net' app and you can specify the transfer speed/bandwidth etc.
the server app grabs meta data for the files you add from the net and adds DVD cover art to your movies as well.
I didnt need to do any port forwarding or anything complex with it installed on Windows 7 home premium, it just works.
It also says it will work over 3G/4G but I havent tried yet.
(ps. on a side note, the few iPhone formatted mp4 files i have on my shared network stream ok through 'my net' so the problem is probably file format related / codec related.)

I also went with Plex after trying several different apps that claimed to stream. Plex was the only product that I found that streamed in HD and the quality looks great! Best $5 I ever spent!
Only downside to Plex is that Im not too thrilled about the interface. It shows all your movies in a grid, I really wish there was an option to display just the list of movies. I have quite a few movies in my collection so loading up all the movie covers can take some time and makes scrolling slower than hell. If they let you sort just by list without cover art, I'm betting it would scroll a whole lot better.

mug2k said:
I'm using a combo of Tversity, UPnPlay and Moboplayer, AVI's work fine but no dice with MKV's.
I've heard MP4's work so maybe converting the MKV's to MP4's might work ?.
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im surprised you had trouble, tversity is supposed to downconvert if needed. Not tried them myself, but this is the same setup im using.

I just got my transformer with the new 3.2 HC and having trouble streaming videos from my PC to my Transformer. I've followed the direction on the manual and also downloaded Moboplayer (moboplayer not seeing the files on my PC). Did anyone find a way to get MyNet working correct??

I've found Mynet to be largely unreliable as there are too many formats that it wont play.
I've found a great combination that works really well, and you can play anything as the video is converted on the fly.
Movie Player: MX Player
This player is capable to playing 720p videos very well, and I found it to be faster than Moboplayer​
UPNP Client: UPNPlay
this program is very easy to use and is used to fine the files​
Server: PS3 Media Server
This server is freeware and works on Windows and Mac. All you need to do is to manually enter your IP address, and make sure you have your android's UPNP Client running before you start the server.​

[Q] Video Players on WP7

Hi,
I want to enter da smartphonz world, and i'm makin a few research. About WP, I know the OS is completely locked up 'cause of M$, but I don't give a damn. Except on one point:
Is there applications which let me look at a .mkv video? And if I cannot, what happens with subs, especially .srt, and multiples soundtracks, Japanese/English/French as an example?
Thank you

For mkv files you'll need to convert them to mp4 and as for subs you'll need them merged into the video for it to be able to be seen on WP7

Okay.
So disappointing....
Android, here I come!

The lack of most common video codecs/container on Windows Phone 7 is becoming a serious problem indeed...
Where are Flv, DivX|Avi, Mkv container... etc???! .... What a shame.

Still hoping for it
Sent from my LG-E900 using XDA Windows Phone 7 App

You can sync nearly everything through zune...
But that's the only thing you can do atm...
But keep being positive: 'cuz cotulla and other devs working to unlock the phone in a way that we can write native apps and that would open the possibility to port other music/video player which include support for other codecs

arturobandini said:
The lack of most common video codecs on Windows Phone 7 is becoming a serious problem indeed...
Where are Flv, DivX|Avi, Mkv... etc???! .... What a shame.
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I have flv working. I am making a browser which will let you play megavideo files. I plan to include more video sites. It works quite well... Ill open a thread soon with more info

Chabun and Marvin, thank you. Hope isn't lost
But M$ stays M$: they will probably never support officially an open-source codec. Even iOS can play mkv, using alternative players.
I'm gonna search the web to find lore about Cotulla

since when is mkv a codec? MKV is a container, usually containing a non-open codec (h.264), which MS supports. All they need to do is support the container...

arturobandini said:
The lack of most common video codecs on Windows Phone 7 is becoming a serious problem indeed...
Where are Flv, DivX|Avi, Mkv... etc???! .... What a shame.
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Don't mix up containers and codecs, it's a different kind of things
BTW, for containers Silverlight has a great feature, custom container parser, called MediaStreamSource. So nobody preventing you from writing your own container support including Matroska (.mkv)
But WP7 video codecs are really limited to: MPEG-4 part 2, MPEG-4 part 10 (H.264), WMV9, H.263, and of course, raw RGB (you may implement your own decoding however w/o hardware acceleration it will be very slow/not possible).

sensboston said:
Don't mix up containers and codecs, it's a different kind of things
BTW, for containers Silverlight has a great feature, custom container parser, called MediaStreamSource. So nobody preventing you from writing your own container support including Matroska (.mkv)
But WP7 video codecs are really limited to: MPEG-4 part 2, MPEG-4 part 10 (H.264), WMV9, H.263, and of course, raw RGB (you may implement your own decoding however w/o hardware acceleration it will be very slow/not possible).
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You are right
I am not a developer. All I need is a native Avi player. I think it's the minimum I can expect from a smartphone nowadays.
Even my all business Blackberry Bold can read Avi movie files. Just a drag & drop via USB cable and I can watch my movies
With WP7 (and Zune) it's a mess and a waste of time.
Sometimes WP7 seems really hopeless...

arturobandini said:
Even my all business Blackberry Bold can read Avi movie files. Just a drag & drop via USB cable and I can watch my movies
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I understand your point. However why do not use a streaming video?
Instead "just drag&n&dropping" 4-6 GB HD movies in .mkv (what is not "just" but takes a veeeeery looooong time ) you may instantly transcode and watch video. AFAIK there are few existing solutions on marketplace (I do have my own - much-much better than existing apps but unpublished and still under very slow development - I'm implementing Mango features such as background queue downloader etc.)
The cons is - you need a powerful desktop PC/notebook, always on, to serve streaming but the pros is -you'll have your very own streaming server, transcode can be done in realtime (even for full HD movies!)
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Sometimes WP7 seems really hopeless...
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I don't think so. Seems like MS have a "gradual" strategy to open new API's and features; also, xda whitehats working hard to build "freedom" ROM's for WP7 (probably, someone can port good native arm wince videoplayer).

Srsly, I don't understand what you mean. Do you want to stream movies just like cloud music, like a "mediaplayer dropbox"?
Don't you know that most carriers don't offer unlimited data plans? And in order to stream Full HD files, you need 4G don't you?
On board medias will be outdated one day, sure, but not now, unfortunately.
If I misunderstood your speech, just tell me
And thank you all for your explanation about the differences between codecs and containers, that was really useful.

Fealakwen said:
If I misunderstood your speech, just tell me
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You misunderstood me completely
First (fortunately) WP7 is not limited to 3G connection only: there are WiFi and Ethernet (via USB).
Second, I already stream movies like "cloud music" Technically it works like: I have a "streaming server" (small WPF C# program, running on my home media server/player PC), and WP7 app, streaming video client (with ability to download and store media). PC program preforms a real-time "transparent" (on the fly) transcoding of medias, and "stream" (not a real stream of course) transcoded data to the WP7 player.
I don't have an unlimited data plan so my usual "scenarios" are:
- if I do have a WiFi access (most hotels/places etc.) I can easy browse media folders on my home PC and watch any movie;
- if I'm going somewhere without WiFi access (to the flight, campground, beach etc.) and want to watch movies, I've put some movies to the queue and download 'em via WiFi/Eth to the handset. Average size of 2 hours transcoded movie is about 600/800 Mb (actually it depends, what kind of adaptive stream mode I have chosen)
Average transocde frame rate (conversion speed) for the full HD video is about 90-110 fps on my PC. It's not too fast but I do have cache
So, in general my solution is useful and not so bad (I also have an Android tablets, with mounted network shares of my media folders. And most often, I can't play video because of player or network bandwidth limitation - full HD videos are huge!)

What is the usefulness of MKV beside pirating movies and tv shows? Tell me what do you mainly use MKVs for besize pirating?
If you can't afford netflix account and/or zune movies, then because you're either jobless or a pirating hoohaas.

Okay, I got it. A real player could be better, if I want to change options like subs or everything else while playing on my phone, but the "screen capture" erases all the troubles about codecs and co.
Other issue is the time spoilt because of the conversion on the computer, and not "live" on the phone. And it depends on your PC CPU, not on the smartphone processing unit. But you problably increase the battery life of the phone, don't you?
That's awesome, yep

Do we have CorePlayer & TCMP player on WP7
to play Videos ?
are there more players like these
where when we stop a video continues
from the exact place again ?
Thanks

stan2, we are talking about video player solution, not about piracy. Please stay on topic (of course if you have something to say)...

stan2 said:
What is the usefulness of MKV beside pirating movies and tv shows? Tell me what do you mainly use MKVs for besize pirating?
If you can't afford netflix account and/or zune movies, then because you're either jobless or a pirating hoohaas.
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Well you're right. I'm legally pirating contents not available in my area. This isn't an excuse, I know, but honestly, what should I do? I buy what I can buy: movies, music thanks to Amazon (I can waste around 100 bucks a month that way). But when it comes to underground japanese animation, whitout any official translation or dubbed version, the only way is mkv.
Edit: TV show? I don't watch this kind of crap, ty.

ilordvader said:
Do we have CorePlayer & TCMP player on WP7
to play Videos ?
are there more players like these
where when we stop a video continues
from the exact place again ?
Thanks
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That IS the subject of this thread
And no, we don't have anything like that. TCMP is on WM.

Question about 8.1 RT and video playback

Hey guys,
My dad just got a Windows 8.1 RT surface. Im not sure which one he has. Im an android and pc junky, but havent had a chance to play around with RT really. Essentially, I just loaded up an external HDD with a bunch of AVIs, MP4s, and a few MKVs. Are these formats supported, either natively or with 3rd party apps? From what I can tell AVIs and MP4s are, but is there something out there that is a lot better than the stock video player?
Another question: On my android device, I can go to websites like gorillavid or putlocker, copy the video stream link, and open it in my video player, which allows for a lot smoother playback. Anything like this for Windows RT?

xFaultx said:
Hey guys,
My dad just got a Windows 8.1 RT surface. Im not sure which one he has. Im an android and pc junky, but havent had a chance to play around with RT really. Essentially, I just loaded up an external HDD with a bunch of AVIs, MP4s, and a few MKVs. Are these formats supported, either natively or with 3rd party apps? From what I can tell AVIs and MP4s are, but is there something out there that is a lot better than the stock video player?
Another question: On my android device, I can go to websites like gorillavid or putlocker, copy the video stream link, and open it in my video player, which allows for a lot smoother playback. Anything like this for Windows RT?
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Mobile HD Media Player works with MKV files. It cost around $3.50AUD from store but no hassles and not sure if your tablet is jailbroken.
Not sure how well it streams though as I use PLEX media server to stream all my media when around the house - no free wifi that can be used worth a damn around Australia and not streaming over Mobiile Internet with our prices....

ultramag69 said:
Mobile HD Media Player works with MKV files. It cost around $3.50AUD from store but no hassles and not sure if your tablet is jailbroken.
Not sure how well it streams though as I use PLEX media server to stream all my media when around the house - no free wifi that can be used worth a damn around Australia and not streaming over Mobiile Internet with our prices....
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Does it support subtitles?
Sent with Virtue

Ace42 said:
Does it support subtitles?
Sent with Virtue
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Yep. It does on the MKV files that have them included in the MKV container.
Haven't tried an AVI file with sub files in the same folder yet, my movies are (mostly) in English...

Vlc is launching their app on the windows store in this month, or probably the next one.

I use Media Browser for streaming. It looks and works much better than skype.

xFaultx said:
Hey guys,
My dad just got a Windows 8.1 RT surface. Im not sure which one he has. Im an android and pc junky, but havent had a chance to play around with RT really. Essentially, I just loaded up an external HDD with a bunch of AVIs, MP4s, and a few MKVs. Are these formats supported, either natively or with 3rd party apps? From what I can tell AVIs and MP4s are, but is there something out there that is a lot better than the stock video player?
Another question: On my android device, I can go to websites like gorillavid or putlocker, copy the video stream link, and open it in my video player, which allows for a lot smoother playback. Anything like this for Windows RT?
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PowerDVDMobile is the most flexible player on the store with my files (mostly MKV, MP4) - costly, but it's pretty much a one stop solution.