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Has anyone tried the native backup option in 4.0.3?

I'm a noob looking to start flashing roms and kernels and generally screw with my stock NS running 4.0.3.
Looks like the first step is to do a backup so I don't lose my app data, etc. when I do the required wipe.
I realize I could use different methods/apps like Astro, etc. but I notice under system settings/backup & reset there's what looks like auto (cloud?) backup and restore options.
Wondering if anyone has tested this and can vouch for it (or not) as a functional backup solution?
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heccubusxda said:
I'm a noob looking to start flashing roms and kernels and generally screw with my stock NS running 4.0.3.
Looks like the first step is to do a backup so I don't lose my app data, etc. when I do the required wipe.
I realize I could use different methods/apps like Astro, etc. but I notice under system settings/backup & reset there's what looks like auto (cloud?) backup and restore options.
Wondering if anyone has tested this and can vouch for it (or not) as a functional backup solution?
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I've been doing this since before ICS. What this refers to, really, is synching Google apps with their online counterparts (Contacts, Calendar, etc.) and storing settings for Google apps on Google servers. It won't help with any non-Google apps.

I can't upload a screenshot but there is an option-
"Back up my data: back up app data, wifi passwords and other settings to google servers"
And further down one that says: "Auto Restore: when reinstalling an app restore backed up settings and data"
So this is just referring to google's stuff and not to Market apps?
Thanks for your response btw.
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heccubusxda said:
I can't upload a screenshot but there is an option-
"Back up my data: back up app data, wifi passwords and other settings to google servers"
And further down one that says: "Auto Restore: when reinstalling an app restore backed up settings and data"
So this is just referring to google's stuff and not to Market apps?
Thanks for your response btw.
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In general it will restore your Android settings (wifi passwords, wallpaper, etc). And it will re-download all the market apps you had installed. But you will lose all the data and settings from the market apps.

heccubusxda said:
I'm a noob looking to start flashing roms and kernels and generally screw with my stock NS running 4.0.3.
Looks like the first step is to do a backup so I don't lose my app data, etc. when I do the required wipe.
I realize I could use different methods/apps like Astro, etc. but I notice under system settings/backup & reset there's what looks like auto (cloud?) backup and restore options.
Wondering if anyone has tested this and can vouch for it (or not) as a functional backup solution?
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I'd say it's not very functional. Like Bozzy said it won't restore your app settings. It will redownload all your apps but you'll usually find that to be more of an annoyance than anything. I'd recommend investing in Titanium Backup. Or if you're strapped for funds you can download MyBackup Root for free but Titanium Backup is well worth every penny. When I rooted my wife's phone I actually bought Titanium again even though I could've used my license key because it's such an awesome app.

I have Ti Backup downloaded and ready to go but that app requires root.
I guess I'll go with Astro, back up to SD card, and transfer to pc via USB.
If I'm understanding things correctly?
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heccubusxda said:
I have Ti Backup downloaded and ready to go but that app requires root.
I guess I'll go with Astro, back up to SD card, and transfer to pc via USB.
If I'm understanding things correctly?
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I should clarify. Without root you won't be able to backup app data. Titanium will be your best friend once you are rooted but prior you'll just be able backup the .apks, saving you from having to redownload them. So, yes you are on the right track with Astro.

Just to update.
Digging in the forums here I found a method of getting root without wiping my phone.
I was able to root my phone by running a batch file on my PC- doesn't touch the bootloader. Used titanium to back everything up before I start flashing.
Very cool.
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Titanium Backup

Quick question. There have been times where I've read that it's not good to restore stuff from Titanium Backup when flashing a new rom but is it on to just restore the apps without data? I think that's essentially the same as just downloading then from the market right?
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SkizzMcNizz said:
Quick question. There have been times where I've read that it's not good to restore stuff from Titanium Backup when flashing a new rom but is it on to just restore the apps without data? I think that's essentially the same as just downloading then from the market right?
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At the batch menu you can restore missing apps with data. You just don't want to restore any system data.

rquinn19 said:
At the batch menu you can restore missing apps with data. You just don't want to restore any system data.
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Ok thanks. I thought the app data as a problem also.
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rquinn19 said:
At the batch menu you can restore missing apps with data. You just don't want to restore any system data.
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I always restored my missing apps without data in the past (didn't restore any system) just to be on the safe side, but that's good to know that restoring data works fine for user apps.

Chrysis said:
I always restored my missing apps without data in the past (didn't restore any system) just to be on the safe side, but that's good to know that restoring data works fine for user apps.
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Wanted to know what you did is it applicable if you are upgrading your rom from gingerbread to ics?
And i also did that but was always on gingerbread

I used titanium backup when for the first time to backup all my apps + app data and restore it after installing a new rom. It didn't work. It took forever to install the apps because I didn't pay for the premium version, and after it did install it didn't actually transfer the app data properly for most of my apps. My save games were lost and most apps didn't log me in from the save data.
So i downloaded Go Backup, which is much simpler to use and always works. Backsup all apps you want, and restores them in the same way titanium pro does, all at once without you having to accept each app. And the difference is my game saves and app accounts were auto logged in the first time I opened them. I would say Go Backup is a much better solution if all you need to do is backup apps + app data. Don't waste your time with titanium (and it's crappy UI).

sad6549775 said:
Wanted to know what you did is it applicable if you are upgrading your rom from gingerbread to ics?
And i also did that but was always on gingerbread
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Not entirely sure about that. I'd imagine so, but haven't had personal experience with such.

Noob Question: Backup options prior to root and custom ROM

Planning on rooting my Inspire 4g and adding a custom rom. Most of the rom install instructions ask for factory reset and wipe. I'm guessing this means, I will probably loose apps, contacts and app data. Is there a way to save the app states with data and recover these?
I think Google play and Google should help me out app reinstall and contacts. But not sure if I can recover these just in 1 go without having to push an app at a time from Google play. Not sure if there is a way to backup and restore app data

theseventhdawn said:
Planning on rooting my Inspire 4g and adding a custom rom. Most of the rom install instructions ask for factory reset and wipe. I'm guessing this means, I will probably loose apps, contacts and app data. Is there a way to save the app states with data and recover these?
I think Google play and Google should help me out app reinstall and contacts. But not sure if I can recover these just in 1 go without having to push an app at a time from Google play. Not sure if there is a way to backup and restore app data
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After you root your phone use a backup program like titanium backup to save your play store apps with data. Only save stuff downloaded from store though as backing up system stuff and restoring on other roms will cause issues.
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Gizmoe said:
After you root your phone use a backup program like titanium backup to save your play store apps with data. Only save stuff downloaded from store though as backing up system stuff and restoring on other roms will cause issues.
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Thanks will give that a try

theseventhdawn said:
Thanks will give that a try
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Make sure you read the OP (original post) on any custom ROM you're looking into. Sometimes using a program like Titanium backup can cause a ROM to act buggy. And sometimes everything works perfectly with your restored data... just wanted to give you a heads up.
EDIT: I just re-read Gizmoe's post above... Sorry for being redundant.

titanium backup

hi
i use a samsung galaxy s3 device.
id like to make a complete backup. what means, if i for example reset my phone completely, i want to be able to restore it completely!
pictures, apps and app data, desktop shortcuts...
i saw that you can backup all your apps and app data, inkl google apps and samsung apps (calendar and stuff like that) or/and you can create a update.zip.
where is the difference between those two options besides the way you have to restore them?
what kinda backup do i have to do to gain what i want to?
thx

Instead u can store the apks in a pc and backup only the app data using titanium

suhasr said:
Instead u can store the apks in a pc and backup only the app data using titanium
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no thats not what i meant!
i wanna back up the whole system inkl desktop and everything else like background picture, videos, wifi passwords and so on.

luk1990 said:
hi
i use a samsung galaxy s3 device.
id like to make a complete backup. what means, if i for example reset my phone completely, i want to be able to restore it completely!
pictures, apps and app data, desktop shortcuts...
i saw that you can backup all your apps and app data, inkl google apps and samsung apps (calendar and stuff like that) or/and you can create a update.zip.
where is the difference between those two options besides the way you have to restore them?
what kinda backup do i have to do to gain what i want to?
thx
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If you are rooted or are willing to root you could use Rom Manager to do full back-ups (as far as I know the S3 is supported)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.koushikdutta.rommanager
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U can do a backup at cmw and restore it whenever u want and even install apks from the backup directly....cheers!

suhasr said:
U can do a backup at cmw and restore it whenever u want and even install apks from the backup directly....cheers!
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I don't mean this to be rude, but that is what I said, @suhasr .
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questions on titanium backup

Hi guys,
I currently have a nexus 5, rooted, exposed installed phone.
However, I m thinking to use titanium backup to backup some of my app (maybe sytem data). I do have some questions tho.
1st, I heard it is not recommend to backup system data since they are not the same.. is it truth?
2nd, Since nexus 5 do not have a SD tray. If i would backup my apps data and format my phone later. Where can i store those backup files? Can i Move the titanium backup folder to my pc first, format my phone, install titanium backup on the new devices, move files back to the original location and hit restore? Can I do that? Or there is anyway to workaround?

1. Yes it is.
2. You can backup them in the cloud or on your PC. No problem to restore them later.

Primokorn said:
1. Yes it is.
2. You can backup them in the cloud or on your PC. No problem to restore them later.
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Can't do cloud since mine was free version
BTW, if I'm moving from lollipop to marshmallow. Does the back file still work ?

mousefai0922 said:
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Can't do cloud since mine was free version
BTW, if I'm moving from lollipop to marshmallow. Does the back file still work ?
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Yes (user data ONLY) but you need a permissive SELinux on Marshmallow.

Primokorn said:
Yes (user data ONLY) but you need a permissive SELinux on Marshmallow.
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I only plan to backup user app+data, won't do system data since it won't be compatible

mousefai0922 said:
I only plan to backup user app+data, won't do system data since it won't be compatible
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Titanium backup won't restore apps under Marshmallow unless SELinux mode set to permissive...

alpha1974 said:
Titanium backup won't restore apps under Marshmallow unless SELinux mode set to permissive...
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No idea what is selinux... Is it hard to setup?
I guess I should stay away from marshmallow than.
What about restore within lollipop?

Just google for se linux mode changer app. Very simple to change to permissive. Needs root, but this does Titanium Backup too.

alpha1974 said:
Just google for se linux mode changer app. Very simple to change to permissive. Needs root, but this does Titanium Backup too.
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but seem marshmallow have a lot of bugs and errors. maybe i should wait for more stable built first.