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wouldnt it be good idea to make a sticky about the fact that titanium backup causes more problems than its good for,most of the posts i have read about probs have one thing in common they all tried to restore a titanium back up now this wont work and that fc's or it just wont stop rebooting, factory reset and flash seems to always work and if ya.want a different kernel let it boot one time then install the kernel,naturally after you wiped cache and delvik again. those two ways always seem to work
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Never, ever restore system data. I bet if everyone that had a problem only hit "restore missing user apps" there wouldn't be a problem.
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Titanium backup rarely causes problems unless you restore system apps. Tibu is one of the most useful apps in the market, I would never discourage anyone from using it. It's especially helpful to have backups of an app that gets updated & then you find out the update breaks something or removes a good feature.
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Keep tb, lose rom manager
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restore missing apps and app data ONLY...never had a single problem the only system data i restore is the HTC desktop so i don't have to reconfigure my home screens...works like a charm

No problems here. You just have to be smart about what you restore. There is no "one click" method.

I think we are looking at user error ... but blame the software if you must.

As others have pointed out, I've never had an issue with Titanium Backup. Great software! Just do not restore system apps + data.

lynneddington said:
Keep tb, lose rom manager
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Ha, ditto.
Can we ditch rom manager or do you have to have it installed for CWR?

now if only there was something for unrooted phones to backup before they root so they could avoid that initial loss

patdroid1 said:
restore missing apps and app data ONLY...never had a single problem the only system data i restore is the HTC desktop so i don't have to reconfigure my home screens...works like a charm
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Lmao I literally almost said this exact post word for word in another thread.. even down to the works like a charm.
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I have had a problem with titanium backup, but it might be a setting. I restored using Titanium Backup from my Droid Incredible with no apparent issues to my 1st Thunderbolt. I did a backup w/ both Titanium and MybackupPro before swapping out my Thunderbolts. I always backup twice on my phones in case something goes wrong. Oh FYI it did go wrong before I returned the Thunderbolt I copied the MyBackup, but forgot the Titanium data. This is why i always double my efforts as I always forget something.
On my 2nd Thunderbolt I started to restore MyBackupPro data after unchecking everything that was a system app. I never looked into how to have MyBackupPro only copy user apps+data since I discovered Titanium. As soon as I went into Market Place multiple app updates downloaded.
For reasons that I am not sure why I decided to do it I did a hard reset to factory defaults. I copied my incredible data back over to the 2nd Thunderbolt and did a restore. None of the apps required updating from an older backup. I'm just wondering if something didn't restore correctly to market?

Powell730 said:
Lmao I literally almost said this exact post word for word in another thread.. even down to the works like a charm.
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Thats funny because I was just reading that thread thinking "where the hell did my post go"?

This may be a dumb question, but should you let apps download automatically after a wipe / new Rom install, and then have TB restore some apps with user data I need? Or is it better the skip the automatic download altogether and restore everything through TB? Thanks!
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I'm stock and rooted. Used ROM manager to install CWR, then Titanium Pro to uninstall ROM.
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The only issue I have had with titanium backup is that when I went to restore my apps and their data it did not seem to restore any of the data, just the apps. I was a little discouraged at first but then figured maybe the original location on my old droid X might have been different then where it is on the Thunderbolt. I doubt it but that's what I keep telling myself since the app data won't restore.

Recently had problems with restoring app data as well...hmmm... In my case it is probably user error.

Without Titanium Backup, I would not be as willing to try new ROMs. As with all things relating to rooting and flashing custom ROMs, you have to learn how to use the tools and understand their limitations.
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jrgalarza1 said:
Recently had problems with restoring app data as well...hmmm... In my case it is probably user error.
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I've had the same problem when moving to a GB-based ROM. So what is this "user error" that we're committing?

cowisland said:
This may be a dumb question, but should you let apps download automatically after a wipe / new Rom install, and then have TB restore some apps with user data I need? Or is it better the skip the automatic download altogether and restore everything through TB? Thanks!
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It's up to you really but that's how I do it. Just restore the data to apps that need that data and you can restore apps that didn't D/l from market and Ti will link them to the market so you'll still get updates.
I have no problem with TiBackup restoring data. When I move to GB ROMs (maybe that's just coincidence) Ti 'forgets' my settings so I have to setup my custom labels and scheduled backups again. I used to backup and restore texts (which is system data) but since switching between Froyo and Gingerbread ROMs I've gotten a separate app to do that if I want to take my SMS/MMS to my new ROM. Never backup/restore system data. I wish there was a way to exclude system data in TiBackup without also excluding uninstalled.

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how can i upload a new rom and not have all of my apps gone...?? i hate having to download all my apps and ish again, is there away to avoid this

Use Titanium Backup and backup all of your current apps. There is a free version of it on the market

You can also use cwm.
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Well the only time you have to Factory Restore (delete everything) is when going from 2 different roms. If you are on stock, you'll have to wipe and format to go to CM7. BUT if you are on CM7 and just want to upgrade to a newer version... no wipe is required. Once you flash, everything will still be installed and configured like you had it.
So if you are forced to Factory Restore and wipe everything, it is always best to just do it. Just do it and set up everything back up on the new Rom, then just upgrade that from then on.
When you use Backup programs, they tend to "carry" over stuff from other roms that can cause bugs and instabilities. A typical rule of thumb is to not restore a backup that was created on another rom. Will it work? Probably. Should You? Probably Not.

I use the free App Backup and Restore. It works, and keeps links to purchased apps intact at reinstall (e.g. it will prompt you to download the app or license file from the Android Market if needed): https://market.android.com/details?id=mobi.infolife.appbackup&hl=en
I also use APN Backup and Restore to ensure my 4G info remains intact: https://market.android.com/details?...mNvbS5yaXRlc2hzYWh1LkFQTkJhY2t1cFJlc3RvcmUiXQ..

GenghisKhan67 said:
I use the free App Backup and Restore. It works, and keeps links to purchased apps intact at reinstall (e.g. it will prompt you to download the app or license file from the Android Market if needed): https://market.android.com/details?id=mobi.infolife.appbackup&hl=en
I also use APN Backup and Restore to ensure my 4G info remains intact: https://market.android.com/details?...mNvbS5yaXRlc2hzYWh1LkFQTkJhY2t1cFJlc3RvcmUiXQ..
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He is asking for app not apn.
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I used titanium backup and had good results when I was on eaglesblood. I recently flashed to weapons and all my titanium backup data was gone so I couldnt restore. I think this was due to wiping and then formatting data as the instructions say to do when flashing the rom.

K2sInteg98 said:
I used titanium backup and had good results when I was on eaglesblood. I recently flashed to weapons and all my titanium backup data was gone so I couldnt restore. I think this was due to wiping and then formatting data as the instructions say to do when flashing the rom.
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It's because LG ROMs use internal storage as primary storage.. Change your backup directory to sdcard/External_SD/Titanium Backup and it should work.
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jose makalolot said:
He is asking for app not apn.
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I know, but one of my pet peeves when installing a new ROM is having to type in APN settings manually after reinstalling my apps, so I threw that in as a bonus.

thank to everybody who helped oon this!

How do YOU restore your apps and settings?

I am currently using titanium backup which I'm assuming most of you do as well, however its a quite tedious process restoring all my apps, it asks me individually to install every app which takes a very long time depending on how many apps you are restoring.
With the developing section constantly streaming new updates and roms, how does one keep up with the restoring? I must be missing something here, do you guys all have to install your restored apps one by one?
There must be a simpler way right? I know that if you dont do a full wipe that your apps and settings stay but i find myself switching roms alot which do require full wipes.

If your rooted and buy titanium it will reinstall your apps without going one by one.
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runderekrun said:
If your rooted and buy titanium it will reinstall your apps without going one by one.
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Thanks for the quick response, I did not know that I will get the paid version asap!

I have had Titanium Pro for a couple years. When you backup apps do you just choose non system apps?
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I've been using Titanium and as a complete system that backs up settings for apps as well as the app itself, it's pretty awesome.
However there are times (like immediately after flashing a new rom) when you have nothing extra installed but a file manager and you want to install just the app of something from your sdcard without having to re-download from Google Play. For this, I have used and app available on Google Play called "Android Assistant" that has a reasonably simple back up that will backup just the apks of installed apps. It installs it in a directory "AndroidAssistant_appbackup" in the root directory of the sdcard. Using a File Manager you can easily go into there and install backed up apps.
If you use Titanium, you seem to have to use Titanium itself to restore stuff.

Titanium Backup Pro and SMS Backup and Restore do the trick for me. They are both very quick processes, so once you get the hang of it youll have no hesitations in switching ROMs constantly. Flash ROM, let it boot, go through the setup real quick, connect your google/email/facebook and whatnot, restore apps from TB, and restore texts, all takes less than 10 minutes.
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whats the simplest option for non rooted phones to back up the entire phone/data ? are there any apps that will create a full image that you can restore at a later date ?

chriskinetic said:
whats the simplest option for non rooted phones to back up the entire phone/data ? are there any apps that will create a full image that you can restore at a later date ?
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You are looking for clockwork mode, backup and restore - but unless you are prepared to root this isn't possible. Why would anyone want to stay rooted? Stock ROM is really, really poor.

I back up my apps using this tool...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1448239
It's free and downloadable right from XDA.
It makes a single flashable zip file with all of your downloaded apps in it. (I don't think it backs up system apps)
When you install a new ROM you simply flash the zip and boom...all your apps are back.
The drawback is that it doesn't save app data. For that I use Titanium free version. Reinstalling data takes about 2 seconds per app instead of 30 seconds per app to reinstall the entire thing.
The whole process of putting apps and data back into a new ROM takes about 10-15 minutes.

I prefer Mybackup Pro, backs up apps and their data, sms & mms. Call log, settings and even how your homescreen setup. Been using it for about a year now and it's awesome.
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Is there a way to backup apps' data on non-rooted system?
Every application witch I saw backups only .apks, none of them saves application's data, I don't even know if it's possible?

WereWolf_PL said:
Is there a way to backup apps' data on non-rooted system?
Every application witch I saw backups only .apks, none of them saves application's data, I don't even know if it's possible?
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Many apps have a built in back up system that will let you do this.
For example, Go Launcher lets you back up your Go Launcher settings to a file it stores on the SD Card.
If you have to do a factory reset at some point and need to reinstall Go Launcher from scratch you can install it then simply restore your saved settings. Works like a charm. I'd say about 10% of the apps I use have this feature.
However, if you're talking about being able to back up every app and all its data and restore it....then no. You can't do that when not rooted.
Now if you don't want to root because you like your stock set up the way it is, you should know that you can root your phone without changing anything about the stock interface. You'll just have the ability to do more complete back ups, modifications to settings etc.
(Though fair warning, if you do root it, you won't stop with just doing backups. You'll get carried away like the rest of us and start tweaking EVERYTHING. But that's cool too.)

chrisrj28 said:
I prefer Mybackup Pro, backs up apps and their data, sms & mms. Call log, settings and even how your homescreen setup. Been using it for about a year now and it's awesome.
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just what im looking for , thank you

Skipjacks said:
Many apps have a built in back up system that will let you do this.
For example, Go Launcher lets you back up your Go Launcher settings to a file it stores on the SD Card.
If you have to do a factory reset at some point and need to reinstall Go Launcher from scratch you can install it then simply restore your saved settings. Works like a charm. I'd say about 10% of the apps I use have this feature.
However, if you're talking about being able to back up every app and all its data and restore it....then no. You can't do that when not rooted.
Now if you don't want to root because you like your stock set up the way it is, you should know that you can root your phone without changing anything about the stock interface. You'll just have the ability to do more complete back ups, modifications to settings etc.
(Though fair warning, if you do root it, you won't stop with just doing backups. You'll get carried away like the rest of us and start tweaking EVERYTHING. But that's cool too.)
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Thanks for the info. I know that some applications have backup options, but I was hopping that there's an easier way to backup more important apps, or actually its data.
I also know what rooting means, and I'm not going to end at backups
Actually, I like stock firmware for now, don't need to change that, I just want to root for some more advanced options, additional software that needs root access, and maybe to remove, or at least freeze some unnecessary apps.
P.S. I'm actually a little disappointed about HTCdev web page. I was almost sure, that I can unlock bootloader and root the system without factory reset. I read all the info, and warnings on HTCdev.com, and nowhere, NOWHERE was written that to unlock bootloader you need to factory reset your device.
I went through all the steps, and on the last one, where I had a choice to flash, or to abort, was mentioned that flashing will do factory reset. The worst thing is that the steps shows up one after another, I couldn't even read the last one before sending the unlock code to HTC. So now - even when I didn't unlock my device, they have info that I wanted to do this, and my warranty is voided (or at least partially voided).

Titanium Backup

Quick question. There have been times where I've read that it's not good to restore stuff from Titanium Backup when flashing a new rom but is it on to just restore the apps without data? I think that's essentially the same as just downloading then from the market right?
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SkizzMcNizz said:
Quick question. There have been times where I've read that it's not good to restore stuff from Titanium Backup when flashing a new rom but is it on to just restore the apps without data? I think that's essentially the same as just downloading then from the market right?
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At the batch menu you can restore missing apps with data. You just don't want to restore any system data.

rquinn19 said:
At the batch menu you can restore missing apps with data. You just don't want to restore any system data.
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Ok thanks. I thought the app data as a problem also.
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rquinn19 said:
At the batch menu you can restore missing apps with data. You just don't want to restore any system data.
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I always restored my missing apps without data in the past (didn't restore any system) just to be on the safe side, but that's good to know that restoring data works fine for user apps.

Chrysis said:
I always restored my missing apps without data in the past (didn't restore any system) just to be on the safe side, but that's good to know that restoring data works fine for user apps.
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Wanted to know what you did is it applicable if you are upgrading your rom from gingerbread to ics?
And i also did that but was always on gingerbread

I used titanium backup when for the first time to backup all my apps + app data and restore it after installing a new rom. It didn't work. It took forever to install the apps because I didn't pay for the premium version, and after it did install it didn't actually transfer the app data properly for most of my apps. My save games were lost and most apps didn't log me in from the save data.
So i downloaded Go Backup, which is much simpler to use and always works. Backsup all apps you want, and restores them in the same way titanium pro does, all at once without you having to accept each app. And the difference is my game saves and app accounts were auto logged in the first time I opened them. I would say Go Backup is a much better solution if all you need to do is backup apps + app data. Don't waste your time with titanium (and it's crappy UI).

sad6549775 said:
Wanted to know what you did is it applicable if you are upgrading your rom from gingerbread to ics?
And i also did that but was always on gingerbread
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Not entirely sure about that. I'd imagine so, but haven't had personal experience with such.

Noob Question: Backup options prior to root and custom ROM

Planning on rooting my Inspire 4g and adding a custom rom. Most of the rom install instructions ask for factory reset and wipe. I'm guessing this means, I will probably loose apps, contacts and app data. Is there a way to save the app states with data and recover these?
I think Google play and Google should help me out app reinstall and contacts. But not sure if I can recover these just in 1 go without having to push an app at a time from Google play. Not sure if there is a way to backup and restore app data

theseventhdawn said:
Planning on rooting my Inspire 4g and adding a custom rom. Most of the rom install instructions ask for factory reset and wipe. I'm guessing this means, I will probably loose apps, contacts and app data. Is there a way to save the app states with data and recover these?
I think Google play and Google should help me out app reinstall and contacts. But not sure if I can recover these just in 1 go without having to push an app at a time from Google play. Not sure if there is a way to backup and restore app data
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After you root your phone use a backup program like titanium backup to save your play store apps with data. Only save stuff downloaded from store though as backing up system stuff and restoring on other roms will cause issues.
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Gizmoe said:
After you root your phone use a backup program like titanium backup to save your play store apps with data. Only save stuff downloaded from store though as backing up system stuff and restoring on other roms will cause issues.
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Thanks will give that a try

theseventhdawn said:
Thanks will give that a try
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Make sure you read the OP (original post) on any custom ROM you're looking into. Sometimes using a program like Titanium backup can cause a ROM to act buggy. And sometimes everything works perfectly with your restored data... just wanted to give you a heads up.
EDIT: I just re-read Gizmoe's post above... Sorry for being redundant.