How would the photo quality be vs older phones 8mp camera like the HTC Sensation. I always hear talk about megapixels not being the main concern, so I wonder if I replaced an HTC Sensation with 8mp with the Moto G, if the photo quality would be on par or better due to difference of optics or focal size?
i recently upgraded to the Moto G from Sensation, and i think the quality is about the same.. However i think the colors are better on the Moto G but that may just be me.
jufa2401 said:
i recently upgraded to the Moto G from Sensation, and i think the quality is about the same.. However i think the colors are better on the Moto G but that may just be me.
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Thanks for much for your reply! So you aren't dissatisfied with the camera coming from the Sensation, right?
Yeah im definitely satisfied with the camera.:good::good:
I also feel that Moto G takes it's shots faster, but that can just be because i had a buggy rom on my sensation.
I always thought my Sensation took great pictures, with pretty fast shutter speed. If this is relatively similar, I could live with that.
I set my mother in law up with a nexus 4, coming from a sensation, and she asked me why it takes longer to take a picture.
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It was probably just my sensation then .
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I think the camera is terrible. Granted, I'm coming from an iPhone 5, but still. I'm pretty sure it's also worse than the Galaxy Nexus, which was no gem either.
My Moto G camera is so bad that I start thinking it's faulty. Needs perfect conditions and fair amount of luck to take a decent photo.
Video slows down at times so it's practically unwatchable. My phone is Tesco UK branded. Even my three year old Galaxy Note's camera seems totally different league.
leppo said:
I think the camera is terrible. Granted, I'm coming from an iPhone 5, but still. I'm pretty sure it's also worse than the Galaxy Nexus, which was no gem either.
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I'm pretty sure it's also worse than the Galaxy Nexus, which was no gem either.
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No, it's not, I own both.
The main problem of the MotoG camera is the noise reduction and blurring, but this is done in software.
I modded the cam app and made test photos in stock condition (filename with NR) and the same photo with my modded cam app without noise reduction.
The chip is able to get decent details but the software blurs the sh*t out of it
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aaah, XDA resizes and coverts to jpg. Watch the original png's here:
http://www.android-hilfe.de/motorol...n-zur-kamera-bildqualitaet-5.html#post6803183
Alright then... All I know is I had more "keeper" photos with the GNex than I do with this.
What about using a different camera app to bypass the software adjustments that Moto makes?
Like camerazoom, camera360, or snap
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i change my razr i for the g and its an amazing phone but the cam its not good like the i but take decent pictures, try with the app vignette it's a better option from stock
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but the cam its not good like the i but take decent pictures
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I compared the MG with the RZi here:
http://www.android-hilfe.de/motorol...fotos-schnappschuesse-videos.html#post6750093
MG vs RZi vs S3:
http://www.android-hilfe.de/motorol...n-zur-kamera-bildqualitaet-2.html#post6758301
MG vs RZi (haha )
http://www.android-hilfe.de/motorol...n-zur-kamera-bildqualitaet-2.html#post6758317
No upload to XDA due to converting and resizing images here.
I wouldn't say, it is generally worse than RZi.
Both cams are mid range, MG has by far(!) more capabilities in the dark, whereas RZi has some more detail in bright light condition.
The camera needs an update. Those pics are clearly being ruined by crappy software.
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The camera needs an update. Those pics are clearly being ruined by crappy software.
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It seems its using the latest motorola camera software, same app that moto x uses
What's the speed at which the pictures are taken? I know they aren't the best quality, but how's the shutter speed?
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Currently I have a Sensation as well, and very strongly considering to buy the Moto G. My only concern is indeed the camera, which needs to be decent because no one is going to walk around all day with an DSLR. A Dutch review of the Moto G contains some pictures made with it, and those look pretty bad to me: Sample pics
Let's hope it's something software-wise which can be fixed with another app or through an update.
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Currently I have a Sensation as well, and very strongly considering to buy the Moto G. My only concern is indeed the camera, which needs to be decent because no one is going to walk around all day with an DSLR. A Dutch review of the Moto G contains some pictures made with it, and those look pretty bad to me: Sample pics
Let's hope it's something software-wise which can be fixed with another app or through an update.
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As much as I hope it could be the software, I just think its the sensor or w/e.
Surely they would've ensured the software worked well to produce decent pictures after the Moto X backlash, which they fixed.
Hey maybe I'm totally wrong who knows maybe the next Camera update will tweak the camera and its app.
Photos may improve too when gogole allows raw images through their new api they're working on, which should improve quality.
Thread here with pictures, they dont look that bad but majority were taken under decent lighting.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2543003
i have the moto x stock camera from android 4.4 its the same that moto G (but u can't upgrade from play store) but the version from moto x have a better performance, i taste with Camera Awesome its amazing the best camera app, better than stock camera
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Being as my Arc has a fairly decent camera and knowing what HTC's normal camera quality is like. Would changing from the Arc to the Sensation be a big step down in this area? Same goes on the video recording side of things?
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Being as my Arc has a fairly decent camera and knowing what HTC's normal camera quality is like. Would changing from the Arc to the Sensation be a big step down in this area? Same goes on the video recording side of things?
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Pathetic camera believe me,just like the one on N1,Desire HD.
Really it's a big big step down if you are moving from Arc{such a great camera phone} to this rubbish HTC one{HTC are pathetic in this area,multimedia sucks big time in HTC}
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Pathetic camera believe me,just like the one on N1,Desire HD.
Really it's a big big step down if you are moving from Arc{such a great camera phone} to this rubbish HTC one{HTC are pathetic in this area,multimedia sucks big time in HTC}
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That's poor and after the reports they were supposed to be improving in this area.
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wow you dont even have the phone for the judgement :/
Also Googling could have got you better results http://esphoneblog.smugmug.com/Phon...5DWbf/1/1259293391_nRTQmBK#1259293391_nRTQmBK
Stills look amazing for point and shoot camera
Video is the best of the bunch, better than any tegra phone or GSII ( Jelly cam exists there ). [email protected] 30fps with stereo sound, u couldnt get any better from a phone
I'm very impressed with the camera on it. Taken some great shots so far and the touch to focus feature is very cool.
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Pathetic camera believe me,just like the one on N1,Desire HD.
Really it's a big big step down if you are moving from Arc{such a great camera phone} to this rubbish HTC one{HTC are pathetic in this area,multimedia sucks big time in HTC}
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Care to post any actual comparison photos or vids demonstrating this claimed "rubbish"?
Yeah, those pics look really good.
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Care to post any actual comparison photos or vids demonstrating this claimed "rubbish"?
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Just a troll from GSII forum, let him pass by
I already see an HTC troll as well, claiming the SGII has a "jelly cam" but somehow the Sensation does not. Where is the roach spray? You have to clean your own litterbox before accusing stray turds from another forum.
http://www.viddler.com/explore/engadget/videos/2721/ see the bus passing by, OMG there goes ur jelly cam on GSII
Now find me a video with jelly cam on HTC Sensation
Also Samples of sensation videos
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_DKoCL-DQg
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I already see an HTC troll as well, claiming the SGII has a "jelly cam" but somehow the Sensation does not. Where is the roach spray? You have to clean your own litterbox before accusing stray turds from another forum.
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Don't bother about him. He is all over the forums as if sponsored by HTC. I bet someone will even tell you that it's better than a N8 camera and I know mp count does not mean s**t
EDIT: If this is good http://esphoneblog.smugmug.com/Phon.../1/1259293391_nRTQmBK#1259293466_Ghqf8RS-O-LB
I won't say anything else.
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Don't bother about him. He is all over the forums as if sponsored by HTC. I bet someone will even tell you that it's better than a N8 camera and I know mp count does not mean s**t
EDIT: If this is good http://esphoneblog.smugmug.com/Phon.../1/1259293391_nRTQmBK#1259293466_Ghqf8RS-O-LB
I won't say anything else.
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SCRATCH THAT. (this is an edit)
he had it on 16:9 settings which brings it down to a lower res.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=14015256#post14015256
THIS is full 8MP quality, but they don't look that much better, but they're also much bigger.
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Link to pics
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1088453
Look for danfard (recent post) and download his zip file.
He's got 4 pics - 2 indoors, and 2 outdoors. They're in full resolution.
Can't really say anymore.
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He needs to confirm those were shot at 8MP. Unless the meta data is lying they are 3264x1840=6MP.
So maybe there is more to say...
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He needs to confirm those were shot at 8MP. Unless the meta data is lying they are 3264x1840=6MP.
So maybe there is more to say...
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read the edit. ^.^
True, you would expect better. In general, it's pretty good
But it's a phone guys If you do want a good camera, buy a real camera. There are always going to be limits on what they put in a phone
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SCRATCH THAT. (this is an edit)
he had it on 16:9 settings which brings it down to a lower res.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=14015256#post14015256
THIS is full 8MP quality, but they don't look that much better, but they're also much bigger.
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You're still jumping the gun. Photo 1 is 5MP. The others are 8MP. Numbers 2 and 3 look good. 4 is in very low light without flash. High ISO isn't good on many digital cams let alone phones.
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True, you would expect better. In general, it's pretty good
But it's a phone guys If you do want a good camera, buy a real camera. There are always going to be limits on what they put in a phone
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comparing to pics from my gfs sony 8 mp cam i would say not bad not bad at all.... its good enough for my intended uses... not like im gonna open a studio with it. you guys need to be realistic
I am disappointed with the camera a little. Outdoors, it is good. Indoors is a different story. A shame really as the flash seems exceptionally bright.
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I am disappointed with the camera a little. Outdoors, it is good. Indoors is a different story. A shame really as the flash seems exceptionally bright.
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Like to see some samples if you can post them.
I'll try to post some tomorrow. It's better than any HTC I've seen before but not a patch on Nokia for example.
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So I was watching the review for the MT4G Slide and it seems that the camera is close to the same with some differences i.e. sweep shot, burst mode... all that. SO I'm pretty sure with this being a Sense 3.0 device that we can port this gem over and have just as good as a 8mp cam as the MT4GS in terms of features. Any news on a leak of the ROM? I think it leaked to the EVO months ago, but that seemed like a buggy pre-release...
Here's the video review.
http://www.youtube.com/embed/6t3W-sbgy-Y
From what I heard it's a mixture of hardware and software that gives the camera it's capabilities. I hope I'm misinformed though.
There is a lot of hardware differences. There is hardware back lighting of the lens. Also there are different lens. So I don't think the app will work with our camera, but you can download other camera apps that provided all of those shooting modes.
The MT4GS has a backlit image sensor, and has a fixed aperture @ 2.2. I haven't the slightest clue what a back light on the imager will do, but I do know that a wide aperture of 2.2 will give better low light performance, and should provide decent blur/bokeh for a camera phone. The software itself seems extremely similar to what we have as our phones can capture an image with almost zero shutter delay as well. It's the way they're marketing it that makes it sound that much better than ours, but in practice both the Thunderbolt and the sensation snap pictures almost instantly. Be sure to disable the image review for the absolute fastest shot to shot performance.
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The MT4GS has a backlit image sensor, and has a fixed aperture @ 2.2. I haven't the slightest clue what a back light on the imager will do, but I do know that a wide aperture of 2.2 will give better low light performance, and should provide decent blur/bokeh for a camera phone. The software itself seems extremely similar to what we have as our phones can capture an image with almost zero shutter delay as well. It's the way they're marketing it that makes it sound that much better than ours, but in practice both the Thunderbolt and the sensation snap pictures almost instantly. Be sure to disable the image review for the absolute fastest shot to shot performance.
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I just want the panorama and HDR modes really. I don't see why we can't get those.
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I just want the panorama and HDR modes really. I don't see why we can't get those.
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This is what I want too
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aNYthing24 said:
I just want the panorama and HDR modes really. I don't see why we can't get those.
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This is what I want too
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Yeah, there is something intriguing about the sweepshot and HDR modes.
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I just want the panorama and HDR modes really. I don't see why we can't get those.
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Oh, I didn't know it had those. Very cool. Those should be doable on our phones as it's all software related.
I happen to own a MT4G Slide... have for quite some time. Unfortunately, due to several NDA's, I can't release anything information that we haven't made public via press release.
What I can say, is that hardware wise, here are the differences. MT4G Slide has a focal length of 3.69mm vs Sensation 4.31mm. It has focal ratio of f/2.2. For relevance, G2x is f/2.8, Galaxy S f/2.6 - (one reason why they take such good 'night' shots). The lens is huge.
Here is a really good article about BSI (Backside-Illumination)
http://www.cameratechnica.com/2011/06/23/technology-demystified-backside-illuminated-sensors/
Essentially, BSI aids in the delivery of more light vs a CMOS sensor with just frontside-illumination because the wiring sits below the lens as it protrudes from the back of the phone.
Software wise, I don't see why Panorama couldn't be ported, however HDR mode might require more hardware/software tweaks, as three shots are taken simultaneously, enabling/disabling certain hardware implementations.
Attached are two diagrams from the link above.. showing how light enters a frontside-illuminated lens (Sensation) vs a backside-illuminated lens (see how diagram looks like attached pic of MT4G Slide lens without cover)
Thanks for the input. They say a picture's worth a thousand words......
....all the ones I'm thinking are curse words though.
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Thanks for the input. They say a picture's worth a thousand words......
....all the ones I'm thinking are curse words though.
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Haha, owning a Sensation myself (and obviously loving the screen) I have mixed emotions as well. Hell, I have issues deciding just between my G2x, Sensation, MT4G Slide.. well as daily drivers.. ..
Anyways, the Sensation will need to be on 2.3.4 to catch up
The panorama would be awesome. I remember when my old Sony Ericsson's had that option. Man it was great.
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There's an alright panoramic app, I haven't quite got the hang of it yet. I plan on really testing it out this weekend though.
Photaf 3D Panorama Pro
https://market.android.com/details?id=obg1.PhotafPro
There's a free lite version to so you can try before you buy.
https://market.android.com/details?id=obg1.Photaf&feature=search_result
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There's an alright panoramic app, I haven't quite got the hang of it yet. I plan on really testing it out this weekend though.
Photaf 3D Panorama Pro
https://market.android.com/details?id=obg1.PhotafPro
There's a free lite version to so you can try before you buy.
https://market.android.com/details?id=obg1.Photaf&feature=search_result
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That panorama app is ok, I have it and used it.. you have to be steady handed but other than that it works.. ill post a sample later...
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You guys can also check the SONY Panoramic Camera
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You guys can also check the SONY Panoramic Camera
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Sorry, I just saw this after I posted a thread about it, works great!
here is a sample of the panorama app not the sony version..
+1 On the true HDR ability of the MT4GS. Would love to have that.
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+1 On the true HDR ability of the MT4GS. Would love to have that.
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You can try prohdr from the market.. I use it and its good...
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There is Pro HDR Camera that works similar to the mytouch4g slide camera app when it comes to HDR images here is the link
Pro HDR Camera
ok guys a friend of mine bough the sensation and i must said the only thing i like about the phone is the way you can see the front facing camera... big a clear
when the g2x its small and the quality sucks. even on the gb roms...
ok here is my deal is there a camera app that would make this better?
even though the sensation has a 8mp and 1.3 mp ffc just as the g2x
the software of the sensation looks cleared than the g2x...
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ok guys a friend of mine bough the sensation and i must said the only thing i like about the phone is the way you can see the front facing camera... big a clear
when the g2x its small and the quality sucks. even on the gb roms...
ok here is my deal is there a camera app that would make this better?
even though the sensation has a 8mp and 1.3 mp ffc just as the g2x
the software of the sensation looks cleared than the g2x...
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Really? I've always thought HTC cameras were the worst.
By the way, you don't compare cameras by megapixels, ever.
See NYT article: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/08/technology/08pogue.html
The quality of a camera should be judged by its lens and image sensor.
As for your question, the sensations camera may just have better hardware.
Have your friend download a mirror app from the market and compare it with yours using the same app to examine your software theory.
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By the way, you don't compare cameras by megapixels, ever.
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QFT!
10char
For some reason, zooming in on the photo on the G2x internal viewer looks really bad/pixelated. Once you get it on a computer it looks much better. No reason it can't be displayed properly without getting a separate viewer or typing it into the browser... Come on Elle Gee.
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Really? I've always thought HTC cameras were the worst.
By the way, you don't compare cameras by megapixels, ever.
See NYT article: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/08/technology/08pogue.html
The quality of a camera should be judged by its lens and image sensor.
As for your question, the sensations camera may just have better hardware.
Have your friend download a mirror app from the market and compare it with yours using the same app to examine your software theory.
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never though about that!! next time will do it an compare..
I like the camera app on my G2X better than my Sensations. That being said. The Sensation has the best camera HTC put on a phone yet and in my opinion it takes better pictures than my G2X. Another guy who owns both as well posted comparison pics in these forums and everyone in here picked the Sensation. One more thing. It also records better video and produces better sound since it records in stereo unlike mono like the G2X.
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Sensation camera destroys the g2x.. Thats the only thing I miss from my sensation. Also the video could refocus and take awesome macro videos...
So who wants it and (why) also who doesn't want it and (why), I REALLY WANT IT just cuz it is AMAZING from all the vids I've watched by Phonedog but as many others wonder WHY htc doesn't do any commercials anymore or even for this phone in which they are themselves calling their 'Flagship'?
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It does indeed look quite interesting but...
Why not: I got my S just recently, and Im not the sort of person who switches phone just because something newer and better came out.
Why not: The S have no issues performance-wise, and I doubt it will anytime soon. There will always be something newer and better, thats just the way works.
Why: Im a geek, the geek in me wants the newest stuff, even though I have no use for it :laugh:
No,because HTC chips itself.
No,because HTC has ****ty updates.
No,because it has 4mp camera.
No,because no sd card place.
My next phone will be Sony Xperia Z(waterproof,hard to scratch,13mp camera,up to 64gb sdcard)simply beautiful.
The only thing One has better than the Z is the processor.
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It does indeed look quite interesting but...
Why not: I got my S just recently, and Im not the sort of person who switches phone just because something newer and better came out.
Why not: The S have no issues performance-wise, and I doubt it will anytime soon. There will always be something newer and better, thats just the way works.
Why: Im a geek, the geek in me wants the newest stuff, even though I have no use for it :laugh:
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Just take this post and imagine I wrote it too. It describes my feelings perfectly.
I'll add a why: That new camera tech could be very interesting, if it's even almost as good as it's made out to be.
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No,because it has 4mp camera.
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Your other points have merit (aesthetics aside -- "beauty is in the eye of the beholder" and all that), but this I'm honestly curious about. What do you really think you can do with > 4 MP in a mobile phone camera? What do you gain? Myself, I'd rather have 4 MP pictures that are clear and capture well in low-light than 10+ MP pictures that are underexposed or grainy. If HTC can deliver significantly better looking pictures with fewer pixels, I'm all for it. If Sony or anyone else can match or beat that quality with more MP, then so much the better. But panning a camera simply because "it's only 4 MP" seems silly.
I dont want it until he gets s-off
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Hey guys!
I plan on selling my LG Optimus 4X (mainly because of unsatisfactory battery life). Then I consider buying a moto g. Do you think that's a good move? I read a lot of threads on here of people moving from all sorts of devices (even higher end) to the moto g and being happy. My other alternative is the Sony Xperia SP. I think its camera is slightly better and it has a slightly larger screen. I also considered the Nexus 5 but several sources claim poor battery endurance and also it's almost twice as expensive. I'd like to hear your thoughts
I had to make the same desicion and I chose the moto g mainly because of it's display. The blacks (i don't think you can even call them black...) and viewing angles and saturation on the SP are poor. The moto g also has very nice battery life, KitKat and is "water resistant". On the other hand, the SP is more powerful and has MHL, a better camera and that glove touch thing. Oh, and it has a micro SD slot, if you want to store a lot of music or other files.
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well,i was in ur position a month ago,btw sp n moto g
in the end,i choose moto g because of the value i get on this phone.
xsp have alot of problem, the touch screen not register to some(check on youtube) ,the camera are bad, and the wifi aren't vy strong. A xsp user tell me to stay away from it.
i don't care much bout camera,and 16gb is enough for me,for me what matter is performance and battery,which both of them are the strong point of moto g.
Well, performance and battery are my top priorities. I just want a phone that works and I can install all the apps that I need and don't have to reinstall roms every month or so. Also I like to be running the latest version of Android and I think the GP edition will bring that at least for some time. I hope the camera is decent. I do not expect top-notch camera by any means. A microSD slot would have been nice, but given that much more expensive devices don't offer one, I can't complain too much.
It's a Moto G forum so you can expect the answer. But s battery is concerned the Moto G is excellent, way better screen and let's not forget timely updates.
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Conquerora said:
Well, performance and battery are my top priorities. I just want a phone that works and I can install all the apps that I need and don't have to reinstall roms every month or so.
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That's the moto g.
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I hope the camera is decent.
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Well, let's face it, it's not. I don't usually use the camera, but taking a (readable) picture of a A4 paper was a pita. You have to hold it incredibly still. But that's partly because of the horrible compression. Outdoors, in good lighting, the pictures may be ok, but YMMV.
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UnknownAX said:
That's the moto g.
Well, let's face it, it's not. I don't usually use the camera, but taking a (readable) picture of a A4 paper was a pita. You have to hold it incredibly still. But that's partly because of the horrible compression. Outdoors, in good lighting, the pictures may be ok, but YMMV.
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That's it about the Moto G. There really isn't much need to install custom roms, the device is fast as hell purely stock. Love it.
That implies that custom ROMs exist only for speed.
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That implies that custom ROMs exist only for speed.
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It's always the case with me, a custom ROM may add features, but it rarely performs as good as stock.
For a lot of the older devices I've had, the custom ROMS were excellent. But for any modern worthwhile devices, the stock seems way better than most of the ROMS out there.