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My two months old Nexus S started to behave in a way that renders it pretty much useless - Freezing / Locked U
Freeze/Delay Between Menu and basically the phone is dead.
Very often when the screen is off, pressing power button powers up the screen with the screen lock, but the phone is not responsive so the screen just goes off again as it is impossible to slide to unlock it.
On top of that, leaving the phone with the screen off for a half an hour or so brings up some sort of warning sign and a small android (can see the screen shot here: http://yfrog.com/h3apmgqj) and the phone is effectively dead. The only thing to do in any of the two cases is remove and reinsert the battery, but that is no solution to anything. All this is while the battery is fully charged.
Did anyone experienced this before? resetting phone does not help.
Here is more info on this topic: http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Google+Mobile/label?lid=4e31a500f89fe575&hl=en
Are you using a custom recovery/ROM? That icon you posted isn't the stock image
Hi, no I do not - the image is actually from different phone but it looks exactly as it did on my Nexus S (little green guy with an exclamation mark). I never rooted my phone or done any custom mods to its system.
I actually sent it to Samsung and they are claiming that they found no problem, so they re-flushed the phone and are sending it back. I am seriously angry at samsung. It is arriving on the 11th so I'll let you know if that helped but I doubt it.
I believe this might be a faulty memory because I often received notification that the internal storage was unavailable or something of that nature as well, right before the problem would occur. Are the any tests I could perform for memory / storage?
just try to flash it back to stock
then do wipe data and wipe cache
see if that gets it back on its feet
Hey,
thank you, I thank that means I would have to root it first ehhh
Samsung told me they've done just that (flashed phone) so I am seriously hoping that my phone will work when it arrives on the 11th.
thanks!
Samsung supposedly is looking into this problem, please see link below:
http://www.google.com/support/forum...ad?fid=44db6d8e31129d4c00049e3b2a6db4d1&hl=en
Update:
I just received my phone from Samsung repair and of course, the phone is NOT fixed. On the side note, they also sent back my note that explains the problem meaning it was ignored completely.
I will be contacting @SamsungServic and calling but at this point I am not sure that they can fix the phone other then replace it.
Also,
I've spoken to Samsung and chat online and - yes they nice and throw back lots of promises and niceness back but they are NOT doing anything about it, for now at least.
I copy and paste the best answer on the google support topic to here:
I've been keeping a notebook to document my debugging of this problem. No app in particular is responsible, in my opinion. I have observed the phone lock up after a Factory Data Reset + USB wipe, and with no accounts configured. In fact, I have had it freeze after following this procedure:
1. Factory Data Reset + USB erase from Settings menu
2. Phone reboots.
3. Go through initial setup screens, skip account setup.
4. Power down phone.
5. Remove battery.
6. Remove SIM card.
7. Replace battery.
8. Power up phone.
9. Let phone sit for 15 minutes or more.
10. Phone freezes.
This is about as close to bare bones as I can get with this device.
I have also documented at least four freeze modes:
1. Phone is completely dark (both display and buttons). No combination of power button or other buttons can bring phone back. Battery removal required.
2. Phone display is dark, but the four "hard key" buttons are illuminated. No combination of power button or other buttons can bring phone back. Battery removal required.
3. Phone displays only a green android by a warning exclamation sign. Holding power button down, then volume up, then release volume up, will bring up the Android system recovery screen, from which phone can be rebooted.
4. Phone is frozen at the unlock screen. Sometimes this freeze occurs while swiping the unlock icon. No combination of power button or other buttons can bring phone back. Battery removal required.
I have observed the phone going from normal standby state (display and buttons dark) to state 2, and at other times to state 3, while it was sitting on my desk by the keyboard.
I'm just about ready to send it to Samsung. I just wanted to verify that the problem would be reproducible after a factory reset and without the SIM card.
I think it may be a hardware problem. It's also possible that part of the Android kernel or some device driver on my device has become corrupt. Unfortunately I can't reset the OS.
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I did a factory reset from the stock recovery, too. Doesn't help either.
My phone arrived on Friday Samsung mobile repair in Texas. And like they did to ohter Nexus S devices from other users they will do the following to mine:
Reflashing the phone -> doing some functional tests ...
... and this is the crazy thing about it. The error we have is just appearing when the phone is in standby and because of this the phone passes the functional tests Samsung is doing at the end of the service. Phone goes back to user. A defective phone.
Some guy managed to keep the phone alive by setting the display turning off after 30mins. He is charging it twice a day
I got a reply from @SamsungSupport on twitter:
Thank you Fabian for again reaching out to us. We are aware of this issue as some of us have your same phone.
An evaluation is already being conducted to determine the fix. We don't have a timeframe of the resolution.
But understand it will be pushed to phones. We will advise once we have a timeframe.
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The support team is friendly and to me it feels like they try to do anything they could.
Funny: One guy got a replacement device. But then no one other. Just reflash...
I think they will do something but on the other hand I'm worried that they will do nothing. But time will tell....
Maybe it would help us if Google will be aware of the problem, too. Ok maybe they allready know it, but I don't know that.
So if some of you here do have some connections... please do us a favor and forward this topic or the link to the google support topic. Feel free to forward this topic to any website you think it would write a news about it. Maybe Google will throw a eye on it. My phone is 8 weeks old and yeah this so anoying. And of course all my friends who are iHippster are trolling me like hell.
It don't want to flame or blame Samsung\Google for this.But our phones are in warranty. The error hits only a few devices and so they should replace it. My 50cent about it... this is not a Google expierence they talked about...
I also had the same problem and sent my phone into Samsung. They only re flashed it, which didn't fix the problem. I immediately called Samsung to inform them that the issue was not fixed and they just told me to send it back for "double checking." Do you think it is better to send it back in or just wait for fix to emerge?
I will be sending it back and demand replacing the phone, also making sure they just don't re-flash again. I guess anything but re-flashing could work.
Remember that I've mailed my phone with one page letter explaining the problem. Their response was flashing the phone and sending it back - with my letter.
Here is note from the support team:
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Original Problem:
Technical Inquiry
Phone Freezing / Locked U
Freeze/Delay Between Menu
Problem found:
NO TROUBLE FOUND
SW,PRL,OTSL RESET
Solution:
Passed All Functional Testing
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@Samsungservice did not even acknowledge it officially that this is a problem.
Yeah i wrote a letter too explaining the issue and how to recreate it (the first time). They told me that it passed their quality assurance inspection after re-flashing it, which must be very poor because my phone shut off again 15 minutes after receiving it. Just dropped it back off at UPS today. Can they replace the phone because of this issue? I know one person had success, but it doesn't seem anyone else has.
Nexus S faulty
Samsung may not be able to reproduce it after reflashing; as this issue does not seem to occur when connected to a PC/computer via USB. Their automated testing could be over USB.
Looks like more and more people are facing this issue as the day goes by.
Search for "Nexus S fault state" on google and you'll find the google support forum thread discussing it
Guys,
Did anyone have tried to flash a custom rom to see if this will solve the problem ?
cheers !
No, but this problem is not ROM related.
discr said:
Samsung may not be able to reproduce it after reflashing; as this issue does not seem to occur when connected to a PC/computer via USB. Their automated testing could be over USB.
Looks like more and more people are facing this issue as the day goes by.
Search for "Nexus S fault state" on google and you'll find the google support forum thread discussing it
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I figured that was why they couldn't recreate the shutdown. Made sure they knew that it has to be unplugged. Mine always shuts off within 10-15 minutes if untouched.
I have same problem.Only remove battery helps. I have been having nexus s for 2 and half months and this problem just came last week. I don't know how to solve it. I tried reflash firmware but didn't help.
welcome to the club. you have to send it to USA to get it serviced (make a extreme detailed problem description and make sure the support worker writes it down 1:1 into their ticket system). they provide a 2day ups shippment label, BUT only to locations in USA.
I can recommend FedEx. They helped me a lot with this duty stuff for shipping to USA. That's not so easy . I paid €50 to get it shipped to a friend of mine in USA.
You have to send only the foreparts of the device. No battery and back panel, no charger and so on. But they will give you all informations at the end of the service request.
or: wait for a hotfix. which maybe never will come.
Update:
I just mailed my phone again... they told me they do not replace phones (not sure what that means yet). The Rep was arguing that if I want the phone replaced then I need to talk to T-Mobile - it does not make any sense.
Anyway, I explained the problem as much as I could and did not mail any notes this time as they obviously do not care for it. But I made sure he included every detail in his notes.
I am very skeptical but still hoping....
Also,
About the part when the phone does not freeze when plugged in or charging. I had my Nexus S charging overnight and it was frozen in the morning.
Update:
Also, I've contacted @SamsungServic via Twitter and asked if their team recognized it as a problem, but I've got no response.
On the other hand if you report the problem to them, they will respond that they will look into it - which means nothing, but if enough people asks the same question them they will have to.
-thanks
I've got some sort of responce via Twitter from @SamsungService, here is what they wrote back:
@SamsungService
Thank you for reaching out to us. We are aware of this issue as some of us have your same phone. An evaluation is already being conducted to determine the fix. We don't have a time frame of the resolution, but understand it will be pushed to phones. We will advise once we have a time frame. Thank you. ^Mary
@Keinam
Does this mean we should stop sending our phones back for repair and just wait for your OTA update? If it happens?
@SamsungService
Many issues can be resolved with warranty service. Regarding the issue you've referred to,It is my understanding that a fix if being worked on which would be sent out OTA. ^Mary
Hello,
I am not sure why but I been using my ASUS transformer 16gb for about a week and a half perfectly.
It is not ROOTED nor ever dropped. Well taken care of just like all of my other electronics.
Yesterday was the FIRST time I ever plug in my headphones to the jack to listen to music. After i was done, I removed it and tried my speakers on youtube + music
and the FIRST second would work then it just hear a pop on speaker and a flat mute. No more clicking on menu or lock + unlock sounds.
I have tried a factory reset, hard reset, soft reset
all will have temporary fix where the unlock + lock sound works but until
i play a youtube, music, or movie it basically stops again.
I have contact ASUS regarding this issue and there are no modifications on my transformer and using the LATEST FIRMWARE.
I think it might be a hardware issue or update on the firmware
but basically I am getting it RMA.
Luckily I have an extra 16GB brand new I was going to sell but I guess i am just going to keep it now until I get the old one return.
Sucks that I have to pay for shipping compare to other companies who pays you a prepaid label or a box. I understand this is the FIRST transformer revision and hopefully it isn't a defect on all transformer.
Does anyone know a fix or have the same issue?
Did you try shutting down and holding power button for 10 seconds?
Sent from my Transformer TF101
I had the same issue. One speaker completely died and I had to return it
yep. tried a hard reset (holding for 10-15 seconds)
Guessing its a hardware defect.
Mine lasted five days untill left speaker popped then died just waiting for a new one to be delivered
did you RMA? how long is it taking
trancemode said:
yep. tried a hard reset (holding for 10-15 seconds)
Guessing its a hardware defect.
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That's not a hard reset. That's just a forced power off. Sounds like you need to rma it.
stuntdouble said:
That's not a hard reset. That's just a forced power off. Sounds like you need to rma it.
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yep =/ i know its going to be a long time.
Do anyone know if ASUS sends a new one or do they actually just try to fix it?
If its a speaker problem.
Mine is off to the service center because both speakers are dead. I'm going to get then to look at my screen as well, since I'm having light bleed issues as well. Until then, I'm using an Acer a500, which has problems of it's own, but mostly software issues... the hardware seems very good.
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Hi, I have been looking all over the internet and search the xda thread but I couldn't find anything related to my problem.
So this morning when I wake up, I turned on my phone and after I used it for awhile suddenly my phone stopped working (freeze/hang) and started to reboot itself. After it reboots my phone's screen as per attached below.
The problem lasted for a day and started to driving me nuts!
Anyone experienced same problem?
I am running KK4.4.2 fyki.
Thank you very much for your kind help!
are you unlocked, rooted, custom recovery, rom, kernel, anything? can you access the bootloader?
xBeerdroiDx said:
are you unlocked, rooted, custom recovery, rom, kernel, anything? can you access the bootloader?
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Nope, I am all stock without any modification nor and fancy stuffs.
Just pure android 4.4.2
I am thinking that the hardware might be faulty..
hellyeahdykk said:
Nope, I am all stock without any modification nor and fancy stuffs.
Just pure android 4.4.2
I am thinking that the hardware might be faulty..
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If you're stock, it could be hardware. Though have you ever attempted to root?
Is it just randomly happening?
Definitely hardware
teh roxxorz said:
If you're stock, it could be hardware. Though have you ever attempted to root?
Is it just randomly happening?
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Yes, it just randomly happening. It started yesterday morning until now..
The phone started to not responding at all and then my screen goes broken (same screen as broken TV I might say).
If I let it cool for 15-20 minutes the phone is usable, but then after 1 hour of normal usage the phone started to freeze again.
Just curious, none of you experienced the same?
this kinda looks like the static i was getting on screen on my n7 2012 when i let the battery get too low. charging it up and a few reboots fixed it. but im not sure if that's what is going on with yours
hellyeahdykk said:
Yes, it just randomly happening. It started yesterday morning until now..
The phone started to not responding at all and then my screen goes broken (same screen as broken TV I might say).
If I let it cool for 15-20 minutes the phone is usable, but then after 1 hour of normal usage the phone started to freeze again.
Just curious, none of you experienced the same?
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I just got mine, 32gb from the playstore, a few days ago, and nothing like that.
If it's happening when your device is hot | overheating, you may wana see if you get it replaced.
It happened to me once. The phone was with his screen off and when I try to turn it on that exact same screen came. But it just happened once, also I experienced random poweroffs and reboots. I did a factory reset and power off issues and freeze stops, but had one reboot once I start installing my apps. I think its a software issue but I'm not sure.
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I'm glad (and kinda of sad) to know that I'm not the only one with this issue.
The problem started about two weeks after I bought mine(Telus). It's done this about 5 or 6 times,randomly.
I found that having someone call me will "unfreeze" the device and the screen gets back to normal.
The first couple times it happened, I was running stock 4.4.2. I since rooted it and installed Xpposed/GravityBox and I'm still getting the problem...
I think that I'll have to return it...
Idk if i need RMA the phone. Its a great phone and the reboot issues has stopped. What should i do?
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Edited: Nevermind my phone have defective gpu. i will RMA it
Same problem
jakov.90 said:
Idk if i need RMA the phone. Its a great phone and the reboot issues has stopped. What should i do?
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Edited: Nevermind my phone have defective gpu. i will RMA it
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Hi, I have the exact same problem, I posted a video on youtube /watch?v=m0EkC_ak01g but I got to the same conclusion that it might be a GPU issue. So there is nothing I can do right?, the worst thing is Im in Argentina and LG dont take my warranty because I bought it in Germany. So there is absolutely nothing I can do?, I know how to avoid the flickering a little bit, when I hit "Ok Google" button it seems responsive and as long as I touch the screen it works (you can see it in the video) but as soon as I stop touching it, after 2-3 seconds it becomes unresponsive again, and when I say unresponsive Im saying the screen doesnt reflect what Im doing, I can still push the buttons and all. So Im not 100% sure its a GPU issue, but a software too. Thanks.
Hello,
I have a Nexus 5 with Android 4.4.4 and CyanogenMod 11. Like always, it had been working really find untill today, when it started to reboot and entered in a loop. I found out that it was because the power button was broken and with the lightest touch, it would activate.
Searching through the Internet I found out that many people happen to have this problem. I tried to disable the power button editing a file that is found under /system/usr/keylayout/qpnp_pon.kl, where I had to simply comment the line where the power button was.
Now, if I click the power button it doesn't happen anything, like I was expecting, but after 30 seconds of clicking it, it shuts down and it reboots like if it was an internal error or someting similar that caused that reboot.
Is it possible that disabling it the way I did could cause any type of problem that made it reboot after touching it?
I know it's an internal problem or something like this because when I touch it, it doesn't lock the screen or show the power menu, so the button itself is kind of "disabled", but it keeps causing this problem.
Is it good what I did? How can I solve it?
Thanks!
Pyttar said:
Hello,
I have a Nexus 5 with Android 4.4.4 and CyanogenMod 11. Like always, it had been working really find untill today, when it started to reboot and entered in a loop. I found out that it was because the power button was broken and with the lightest touch, it would activate.
Searching through the Internet I found out that many people happen to have this problem. I tried to disable the power button editing a file that is found under /system/usr/keylayout/qpnp_pon.kl, where I had to simply comment the line where the power button was.
Now, if I click the power button it doesn't happen anything, like I was expecting, but after 30 seconds of clicking it, it shuts down and it reboots like if it was an internal error or someting similar that caused that reboot.
Is it possible that disabling it the way I did could cause any type of problem that made it reboot after touching it?
I know it's an internal problem or something like this because when I touch it, it doesn't lock the screen or show the power menu, so the button itself is kind of "disabled", but it keeps causing this problem.
Is it good what I did? How can I solve it?
Thanks!
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I had the same issue unfortunately. My N5 is still at LG for repair and it's taking much longer than they told me. Which is good of course. Like most smartphones now though, a 10 second power button hold will forcefully reboot the phone. It's hardcoded in the phone and no matter how much you try to disable it through the OS it won't make a difference until the rogue button is physically taken off the motherboard. If you're in Europe though and your phone is still in it's 2 year warranty I would strongly suggest flashing a factory image, relocking and calling LG (or Google, if the device came from Google).
Hope this helps.
humzaahmed155 said:
I had the same issue unfortunately. My N5 is still at LG for repair and it's taking much longer than they told me. Which is good of course. Like most smartphones now though, a 10 second power button hold will forcefully reboot the phone. It's hardcoded in the phone and no matter how much you try to disable it through the OS it won't make a difference until the rogue button is physically taken off the motherboard. If you're in Europe though and your phone is still in it's 2 year warranty I would strongly suggest flashing a factory image, relocking and calling LG (or Google, if the device came from Google).
Hope this helps.
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Well... It's been like three years since I bought it, so I guess the warranty is over...
And if I want to disable it, I will have to do it manually and disconnecting it of the motherboard, am I wrong? I guess I'll either have to live with this problem or buy a new phone... Today it's not my lucky day! Hahahaha
Anyway, thanks for your reply!!
Many owners have the power button issue. A competent cell repair shop should be able to replace it.
audit13 said:
Many owners have the power button issue. A competent cell repair shop should be able to replace it.
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Yes, that's true, I've found a lot of people over the Internet with the same problem.
By the way, I could finally solve my problem; after searching for a while, I found a YouTube video that showed a peculiar way of solving it... And it actually worked!
Well, it looks like I cannot put the link because I'm under 10 posts :cyclops:
Well, here's the video code if anyone is interested: _QpSSCifxAw
The Internet is amazing! Hahahahahahah
Thanks for your replies!
Are you referring to banging the power button? It wouldn't work for my friend's power button. He had to have it replaced because it failed a multimeter test, apparently.
audit13 said:
Are you referring to banging the power button? It wouldn't work for my friend's power button. He had to have it replaced because it failed a multimeter test, apparently.
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Yep, exactly!
Like the video said, I bumped my phone a little bit because the power button was kinda stuck inside the phone, and that really worked...
I was amazed! And I'm so happy it worked! No need of having it replaced. [emoji16]
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How did you do that?
spacecaptain said:
How did you do that?
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Just hit the phone into your hand so the power button gets unstuck.
You can see the video I mentioned above for a clarifying idea on how to do it.
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For the last couple of weeks I was unable to restart my phone without a yellowish little box with white stripes (5mmx5mm) appearing in the center of the screen I can't even reset it to factory settings because of this. If I want to turn my phone back on I need to let it stay like that for 10-15 minutes than restart it again and it turns on. If I try to restart it right away it comes back. My phone is an Alcatel One Touch Idol 3 5.5 (6045Y) with android 6.0.1.
Are you trying to let the phone boot normally by only pressing the power button or trying to enter recovery mode by pressing volume and power?
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Are you trying to let the phone boot normally by only pressing the power button or trying to enter recovery mode by pressing volume and power?
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I'm trying both. But the same thing is happening. When the phone turns on the little box appears and I can't do anything.
This was happening for the last couple of weeks but after 15 minutes I could turn my phone back on but today I couldn't turn my mobile data on so I restarted the phone couple of hours ago and since then I can't turn it back on.
Sounds like a possible hardware problem. Any way to get it resolved under the manufacturer's warranty?
audit13 said:
Sounds like a possible hardware problem. Any way to get it resolved under the manufacturer's warranty?
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Yeah I begin to think that is a hardware problem because I had to change the screen couple of months ago but the problem appeared couple of weeks ago.
The warranty has expired in december so I will have to deal with this phone for now.
Thank you anyway for your replies.
Good luck with the repair.
Since the problem appears before the ROM loads, it's probably hardware-related. Was the phone recently dropped?
audit13 said:
Good luck with the repair.
Since the problem appears before the ROM loads, it's probably hardware-related. Was the phone recently dropped?
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No first it started having random inputs on the screen. It would fix by locking and unlocking the phone but then I would get really laggy so after rebooting the phone the little box appeared.
MrBuk said:
No first it started having random inputs on the screen. It would fix by locking and unlocking the phone but then I would get really laggy so after rebooting the phone the little box appeared.
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Not for this phone in particular, but from my past experience with replacing screens on different phones (at least half a dozen times)...
Since you had your screen replaced, and you are having a couple of different symptoms that seem to be hardware-related, I would suggest checking the connectors first. It's possible that a connector got dirty or oxidized, or was not attached properly. If you did the job yourself, it shouldn't be a problem for you to check this. If you had a repair shop do it, see if you can get them to look into it.
Another possibility is that the replacement screen assembly might be defective...
MrBuk said:
Yeah I begin to think that is a hardware problem because I had to change the screen couple of months ago but the problem appeared couple of weeks ago.
The warranty has expired in december so I will have to deal with this phone for now.
Thank you anyway for your replies.
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If the screen was changed by Alcatel services you still in warranty, tell them that you a few times that issue after the reparing but it fix it by him selfe but now he doens´t fix it.
Let´s see what appens!
persona78 said:
If the screen was changed by Alcatel services you still in warranty, tell them that you a few times that issue after the reparing but it fix it by him selfe but now he doens´t fix it.
Let´s see what appens!
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The screen was not changed by Alcatel services. It broke 2 days after the warranty expired.
MrBuk said:
The screen was not changed by Alcatel services. It broke 2 days after the warranty expired.
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...**** ...
Was it fall? Maybe this was what damaged the phone
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...**** ...
Was it fall? Maybe this was what damaged the phone
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Yes it was a fall but I don't think that was the cause for the recent problems I have. Actually in the last couple of days I think I found the real cause. The power button is not working properly so I have to press it really hard in order to unlock my phone. This however was very annoying so I started using an external battery in order to unlock the phone ( When I plug in the phone it unlocks). And since I stopped using the power button almost all problems stopped. ( I said almost because the phone has still random inputs but not as severe as before)