Hey everyone! I was wondering what your thoughts and experiences were with Juice Defender and Greenify. I used Juice Defender for a while now and it is excellent. It gives me the best battery life on my phone. Now I'm going to try Greenify for a while because I can stop all the apps I don't need and have the ones run that I want to get notifications for during the day. With Juice Defender it shuts off your internet all together so you don't get FB, Twitter, Kik, etc. notifications unless you open an internet app which is annoying, also Greenify clears RAM and really makes your phone run smooth. So what do you think of the two? Which one do your think saves battery more? Post your thoughts and let's see what people think!
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I use greenify to keep certain apps from misbehaving and wasting resources, and it works really well. For me no need for juice defender anymore, although apparently it can complement greenify.
I was a few months that I use greenify and I am fine, and does what it says! I love the app, and I love the developer!
2 for Greenify! Yeah it really is an excellent application.
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After using J.D for a couple of years now, and swearing by it, I decided to give Greenify a try. It's only been about a week but I have noticed a significant difference in the operation of my phone. Battery consumption is pretty much equally as good as J.D, but the consumption of RAM is much better than J.D.
When the description stated that it will make your phone run as it did out of the box, I thought....Yeah Right! To my surprise it was very very close indeed. Unfortunately, my Phone crashed and i had to use SEUS to get it back up and running, and i just can't be bothered to root again.
Whether it was something disabled via Greenify or not, i will never know, but this app needs a non-root version ASAP.
Greenify and Juice Defender do different things. So I don't know why people compare them so much. One hibernate apps, the other manage wifi, 3g/4g, bluetooth, CPU, display bright and so on. Its a complement, not the same thing.
Greenify>JuiceDefender
I started out with only JuiceDefender and saw little improvement, and then I DLed Greenify to compliment JD. It was the best decision for an overall boost for my phone. With that said, if I had to pick only one, it'd be Greenify for sure!:good::good:
I get 15 hours of battery life using greenify!
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So ever since I first bought the G2x, I've always had juice defender a part of it. Now having done a factory reset, since May (when I got the phone) and not installing juice defender, it seems that I get the same if not better battery life without juice defender installed. Could juice defender just be adding to the battery drainage also?
Yea, I am in the same camp. Juice Defender really has done nothing way too much tweaking it. I have to say its like all of the purge from memory apps...you mileage might vary, but for me they aren't really helpful.
It seems to me that juice defender might be good for over-night, or for situations when I'm not going to be checking my phone for hours. Otherwise, the radio keeps getting turned on and off...on and off...everytime I wake the screen to text or something...that's in addition, of course, to the regularly scheduled times that it does it on its own.
But then again, instead of having it running all the time, I could probably get the same effect if I just went to airplane mode overnight.
Interesting point, OP...and gave me something to think about.
I'm gonna test that today, yesterday I got 15 hours with it on and set CPU profiles today ill turn off juice defender ultimate, ill keep u guys updated.
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So ever since I first bought the G2x, I've always had juice defender a part of it. Now having done a factory reset, since May (when I got the phone) and not installing juice defender, it seems that I get the same if not better battery life without juice defender installed. Could juice defender just be adding to the battery drainage also?
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Yeah, I tested this week. Ifound no noticeable impact of juice except maybe overnight. During the day, and no impact, and perhaps even a negative impact.
I just manually toggle data off at night anyway.
There is really no reason to ever use juice defender when Tasker exists. It can do everything JD does and SO much more.
After testing pretty much every setting I could think of, the only things that made a significant difference is disabling data and GPS. I set up a screen off = data off, screen on = data on set and battery life WAS improved. However, I use Google Voice for all my texting, so I had to have some data, so I tried the same thing but reducing to just 2g and no improvement was noticed.
Keeping GPS off permanently but allowing it to run specifically on applications that need it helps too. Note that this is not possible on gingerbread except for CM7 and ROMs built off of CM's source. I imagine toggling bluetooth and/or WiFi would influence things too, but I never use either. No other setting resulted in a significant improvement in battery life.
Note that during all of these tests, I kept screen brightness to 18%, toggling to 25% when in direct sunlight and 0% in the dark. As for airplane mode at night; I plug the phone in at night and unplug when I wake up so this is a nonissue for me but AM is the best you will ever see your battery life without using things that require root.
And, of course, underclocking to minimum when screen is off improves more than everything else combined. Kernels and clock speeds matter far more than things like GPS or data connection.
Well I'm through testing today I got 11hrs and 18 min without juice defender compared to 15hr with it yesterday, and I used my phone less today, so juice defender gave me about 4 more hours, tomorrow I'm gonna use juice defender and 2g.
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I don't use any battery management apps, I do use android assistant to close apps every once in a while
Yesterday with juicedefender set CPU profiles and 2g I got 20hrs battery life.
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Oddly enough, the free version seemed to work better that the paid version. A lot of the time wifi and 4G will stay on even when not using the phone, and I have to manually turn off/on wifi depending on the situation. As stated, it does help when not using your phone for a while, but I'm no pro at it or anything, could be the settings.
Looking for a good battery saver anyone knows one? For inspire 4g
I think Juice Defender works fine and its free. It does its job of killing the mobile data when the screen is off.
Yea I use that already but it seems like my battery still be dying kinda to fast.
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+1 juice defender
if you have the money for it, buy juice defender ultimate bc u can customize the settings
honestly, I started out using a task killer and a few other apps, and too didn't see much benefit...
biggest thing that helped me was autostarts...but you'll need to learn how to root your phone...
not only will it help you take control over all the crap that runs in the background, but give you good insight as to how often things start up, for what looks like no really good reason.
between that... I only have 4 home screens and try not to have too many widgets that auto update...
also...no sure about your phone, but my vibrant had the wifi calling app on it, and that thing was a resource hog...~20% battery usage on avg...had to forcefully yank that one from my phone...
good luck
All 'smartphones' barely last a day under heavy use.
There is no magic app that will change that.
Turn off wifi + data and use it only to call or write sms and you will get 2-3 days maybe.
Juice Defender definitively. You'll not find out there better than that. If it's not enough for your usage, you should buy a spare battery and switch between them
Defender or more simple..
Juice Defender best. but sometimes, it can be confuse for newbie. Then you should try Deamon Controller, it is simple. You adjust wake and sleep Mhz of cpu, that's it. Don't forget Wifi, gps, data, bluetooth, sync etc. switch-off.. good luck..
juice defender is definitely the best. some say it kills the battery more than it maintains it. but a good app to use for sure!
No, battery saving apps are a joke.
Install BetterBatteryStats and take a look at your wakelocks. See what's killing your battery. Don't install a battery draining app to help save the battery... makes no sense.
Look into lowering your Wifi TxPower if you enable Wifi alot. Look for guides and tips, there's plenty out there.
I went from 7% loss overnight to about 4% after locating and removing evil apps and installing alternatives.
which battery saving app is good for i9000?
I am running Infused 1.6.0 and lately i've just been having horrible battery life. I'll let my phone just sit for an hour or 2 and it'll drop 10-20% in battery life.
I have a couple widgets on my phone but only one checks for weather and that is set to check every 2 hours.
I do have Lookout antivirus installed...What does everyone else use as far as antivirus? I have heard alright things about antivirus free but then the reviews say the latest update puts out video ads. I am starting to wonder if Lookout is what is draining my battery.
EDIT: Just got up about 45 minutes ago. All I have done is sent maybe 20 texts that is it and my phones down to 81% :-/
Uninstall Lookout and see if that helps.
Never used lookout but, I know a lot of ppl do. I use bitdefender b/c of the built in find your phone option. As for battery life, download juice defender and a task killer from the market, you can even go so far as download something like SetCPU a set the values low and scale to powersave to save battery.
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Never used lookout but, I know a lot of ppl do. I use bitdefender b/c of the built in find your phone option. As for battery life, download juice defender and a task killer from the market, you can even go so far as download something like SetCPU a set the values low and scale to powersave to save battery.
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Actually I have setCPU but haven't really messed with it. I have it set to conservative right now but that doesn't seem to be doing much. I have heard mixed things about task killers...but seems when I kill a task now it just starts back up again. Stuff I don't need to be running either. I will check out juice defender.
I have a task killer but only use it when I'm doing multitasking. SetCPU has plenty of options, just mess with it until you find an optimal combo. Juice Defender does wonders for my battery life.
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I have a task killer but only use it when I'm doing multitasking. SetCPU has plenty of options, just mess with it until you find an optimal combo. Juice Defender does wonders for my battery life.
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Thanks. Just downloaded Juice Defender and set it to balanced mode to start and see how that goes.
I use netquin from the market the widget is great too.Don't see a battery drain either.
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I used Juice Defender on my Vibrant and it seemed to help quite a bit. However, on the Sensation, because it is running gingerbread, I have read mixed reviews. Some say it helps, some say it doesn't. I'd like to know your experience with this or other batter saving apps!
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I used Juice Defender on my Vibrant and it seemed to help quite a bit. However, on the Sensation, because it is running gingerbread, I have read mixed reviews. Some say it helps, some say it doesn't. I'd like to know your experience with this or other batter saving apps!
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If nothing, it starts/stops mobile data when you turn the screen on/off. That on its own is a huge battery saver. It also turns wifi off when it's out of range, and mobile data off when you have wifi.
These things obviously increase battery life, no question about it. Of course, if you never have mobile data on, and don't want to have it on, there is no point to having juice defender
I find that it perpetually signs me out of Gtalk
Hmm. I was debating whether to get the elite version on the market as it seems to have a lot of extra features. I didn't know there were mixed reviews with gingerbread. Thanks.
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I get an issue with juice defender where after I've turned the screen back on there is still not mobile internet connection.
I have to manually put the phone into flight mode and back to get a connection, and sometimes even need to reboot.
I got pretty much the same advantage as JD without the hassle by just enabling 'Power Efficiency' in the 'Power' menu in the settings. It turns off background data like JD and allowed me to go a full day with fairly high usage and still have 30% at 8pm.
N.B. - Having background data off means your widgets and mail won't sync as often so I put a 'Sync all' widget on one of my homescreens so that when I wanted an update then I could pull everything down at once.
Hope this helps
I've been using juice defender but I think I will try your suggestion for a couple days and see if it makes a difference. Thanks!
If you check the "always allow mobile internet" button in your wireless settings will give you a good compromise between stock and how juice defender constantly kills the data connection. That setting for me is good for an extra 20-25% a day. Only thing I notice differently is emails may take a minute or two to arrive and Gtalk is signed out when I don't have the phone active.
Juice defender will just manage your apps, settings to save battery.. just to regulate your battery..
I am using Juice defender and it's saying 1.61x now, the battery last about 3 days(I am not a heavy user) but before that it didn't so I found it to be quite helpful
yeh me too... from 8 hours to 10 hours with juice defender..
Sorry if this has been asked
I just got my g2x and the battery isn't that good like the mytouch 4g
So can someone suggest a good app to download. I currently only have app killer
It really isnt good to use task killers on phones because it can screw with the Roms and such, but a good app to use would be something like Juice Defender. Hope this helped!
So get rid of task killer and download juice defender. Is there a specific set up I should use. I don't want it to interfere with me getting calls or text messages
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So get rid of task killer and download juice defender. Is there a specific set up I should use. I don't want it to interfere with me getting calls or text messages
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It comes with several presets. I use balanced, doesn't effect radio(I don't think any of them do), but one kool thing it does is stop data when your screen is off. That alone gave me a extra 3 to 4 hours, easy. It has a lot of kool other features to help. Advanced task killer- no noticeable difference. Juice defender- anywhere from 3 to 5 hours.
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Unless you buy the premium version of Juice Defender there is no way to configure for individual apps. I though data off when the screen goes off would be great, but if you need your POP Email in a timely manner it does not work so well.
I have not used it in a while, so someone correct me if I am wrong.
I am going to try Autostarts from the Android market tonight and see if stopping all the runaway apps helps.
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Unless you buy the premium version of Juice Defender there is no way to configure for individual apps. I though data off when the screen goes off would be great, but if you need your POP Email in a timely manner it does not work so well.
I have not used it in a while, so someone correct me if I am wrong.
I am going to try Autostarts from the Android market tonight and see if stopping all the runaway apps helps.
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If you have the free version of JD (I do) you can set up your schedule so that JD automagically enables data every few minutes to sync background data. I have it set up as 30 minutes.
Click the "custom" setup in JD. You can also buy the premium version which will give you much more control in the settings dept.
OP,
Used to come from MT4G?? I'm getting WAYYYYYY better battery life compared to my previous MT4G, but maybe that's just me. (I also like the G2x WAYYYY better)
I am also coming from a Mytouch 4G and so far only tried out 1 MIUI rom and still new but got 8 and a half hours of really heavy use with 10% when I got home which I think is pretty good I like this phone much better and notice it's way more faster and less laggy only thing is personally it's not as sexy looking as my white Mytouch 4G was I actually think the design of this phone is kind of weird hoping it looks a little better with a nice case.
For Juice Defender, YMMV. I tried it and my battery life was worse compared to without it.
I admit to using Andro Task Killer. Unlike other task killers it doesn't kill system tasks. I tested it and it improves my battery life by 15%.
Also, install a good firewall like DroidWall and ruthlessly deny internet access to any application that does not depend upon it. This will save you lots of battery life.
Get SetCPU and set a profile to tune your CPU frequency to the minimum when your screen is off.
I use watchdog. When a rogue app gets over 30% cpu running in the background I close it. Helped me more than juice defender.
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Little bit of advice... App killers are not that great because they will kill all apps and then all those apps will start again draining more battery than they would just quietly running in the background
I also recommend watchdog to kill apps one by one if u want and monitor rogue alps
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noobletsausecakebbq said:
Little bit of advice... App killers are not that great because they will kill all apps and then all those apps will start again draining more battery than they would just quietly running in the background
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Task killers don't work like that.
As I wrote, I did my own testing and the correct use of a Andro Task Killer extends my battery life by 15%.
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Task killers don't work like that.
As I wrote, I did my own testing and the correct use of a Andro Task Killer extends my battery life by 15%.
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Actually they do, take a stock rom, unrooted and use a task killer to kill the ton of garbage running then wait a couple of minutes and check back again, there will be at least a few of those killed apps running again, if not more, not to mention any background services that are supposed to be running that likely didn't get killed.
If excess apps running are draining battery life either uninstall some, or if they are stock apps then root+freeze, no more irritating apps running in the background to drain battery life.
Edit: Also, apps like ATK run in the background as well, draining battery life as well, on top of the apps trying to run. Similar with Juice Defender, it's always running, I noticed improvement not only in system performance but battery life after I uninstalled Juice Defender.
The only "batery saver" app that does anything is the one from AnTutu, but it underclocks your CPU and who knows what else, so even that is a double edge sword.
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Actually they do, take a stock rom, unrooted and use a task killer to kill the ton of garbage running then wait a couple of minutes and check back again, there will be at least a few of those killed apps running again, if not more, not to mention any background services that are supposed to be running that likely didn't get killed.
If excess apps running are draining battery life either uninstall some, or if they are stock apps then root+freeze, no more irritating apps running in the background to drain battery life.
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Look, why don't you run your own tests with Andro Task Killer? What you wrote is not completely accurate, and does not change the fact that I get 15% more battery life with my task killer, Period.
That is because some apps spawn background tasks that stay running after you close the app. These background tasks are made difficult to identify without using an advanced task manager like Elixir. They might use your data connection to send background data, or a poorly written app can keep your phone awake. Both ruins battery life.
I use jd ultimate being able to have your antennas off saves batteries period. Not to mention the hundreds of features to tweak it i get substantial battery savings with jd. I am unfortunatly against task killers... i use antek to just freeze the annoying apps instead of killing them over and over and keeping another uneccesary app running...
Making bad decision's one at a time.
Oh p.s. owning a g2x=bad battery life period.
Making bad decision's one at a time.
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Oh p.s. owning a g2x=bad battery life period.
Making bad decision's one at a time.
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Lol EXACTLY the g2x was a bad investment, can't wait till I get my gs2
HOTLANTA, even though its cold ;-)
I.R.Chevy said:
I use jd ultimate being able to have your antennas off saves batteries period. Not to mention the hundreds of features to tweak it i get substantial battery savings with jd. I am unfortunatly against task killers... i use antek to just freeze the annoying apps instead of killing them over and over and keeping another uneccesary app running...
Making bad decision's one at a time.
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JD ultimate really helps in addition to setcpu and some undervolting.
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h22aboi said:
If you have the free version of JD (I do) you can set up your schedule so that JD automagically enables data every few minutes to sync background data. I have it set up as 30 minutes.
Click the "custom" setup in JD. You can also buy the premium version which will give you much more control in the settings dept.
OP,
Used to come from MT4G?? I'm getting WAYYYYYY better battery life compared to my previous MT4G, but maybe that's just me. (I also like the G2x WAYYYY better)
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Do you use POP email? My email is set for 30 minutes. JD was set at 30 and then 15. I missed emails for hours. Love to squeak an extra hour or 2 out of the battery. I am using stock email on 2.3.
Thanks