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I work for one of the largest Video On Demand porn sites in the world. My question is do you guys and gals think there would be interest in a program in the vain of V-Tap for adult content? I know that you can stream from our sites directly with WM phones, but it seems to take a hell of a lot of data and memory usage, especially with Opera Mobile. So give it to me straight pervs would this be worth trying to pitch to the bosses about?
Ha! 45 people have read this and no one has had the guts to say something.
I say go for it! No shame in my game, brotha'.
I say go for it man!
Good idea mate! Just go for it
Do people pay for this service to get it into a v-tap type of software?
I'll be your first beta tester!
kpejr187
pron is great. Greater still on the go!
(yes - p r o n)
go for it dude... theres more women that will be watchin... lol
Just so no one gets their hopes up, this is a really big IF. These are just ideas that are swimming around in my head.
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Ha! 45 people have read this and no one has had the guts to say something.
I say go for it! No shame in my game, brotha'.
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Ha! I was thinking the same thing. I was just thinking, "damn did I just get black listed?". I guess I'm just trying to do a little bit of market research. My company also runs Pornotube which I think could easily be adapted for mobile devices a la some Vtap like software for the phone. I'm getting documentation together right now about it, the only problem is I really know jack about programming especially on a mobile device.
mphayvanh Do people pay for this service to get it into a v-tap type of software?
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No people do not pay for this software. If we decided to do it on our adult version of Youtube I also do not think there would be a charge, but because it is adult content, for safety (don't want the kiddies on it) reasons it might be smarter to have a small monthly fee (5$) something like that.
kpejr187 I'll be your first beta tester!
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This could be possible, if the execs went for it we would probably need Beta testers. Of course there is the problem of ensuring the Beta testers are of age, but more then likely I would turn to this site for beta testing. So just keep your fingers crossed.
bring it on !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Over 300 views and only 7 people have an opinion? Come on people, at least PM me.
well i think people were looking because they thought that it was a post about a serivce.. if you had that many hits im sure youd have alot of support if the program went into development.. **** be the first to have a niche in the mobile market im sure youd be stabing yourself in the foot later if you dont... look how many things are becoming mobile.. mobile banking, youtube , music everything i say do it
I do believe its a good idea, but only if its 100% free... I don't see many ppl paying even 1$ as a monthly fee.
Unfortunately there is just no way it would be free. Trust me who doesn't want free porn? But the company I work for is in the business to make money first and then please people second. It just doesn't work that way to give free porn. Hell even sites that do give away content for free pester you with so many banner ads it's almost not even worth it. I think Pornotube would be about the only thing that could be free on the company's end.
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Unfortunately there is just no way it would be free. Trust me who doesn't want free porn? But the company I work for is in the business to make money first and then please people second. It just doesn't work that way to give free porn. Hell even sites that do give away content for free pester you with so many banner ads it's almost not even worth it. I think Pornotube would be about the only thing that could be free on the company's end.
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You could always put small (like 10 sec or so) ad before each video plays, to get advertising revenue. That way it would stay free on the user end.
Honestly.. where would the internet be without P&P (pron and pirates)???
Contact me directly, if your interested, i have an idea to sell you that might just take mobile pron to the next generation with an app that is already well under development for other uses...
i have several ways of streaming adult contact to my device.. orb is one but the others are a little more complicated. Go's like this. access the site (usually wmv streaming sites) copy link location, open media player or tcpmp and open file or location and paste that link and click open and 70% of the time it works.
free free free
only available through your mobile device: www.phonerotica.com
if you go through desktop, it takes you to an explanation page and wants your phone number to txt you the above url. Just enter the above url in your mobile browser !!
thundaar2000 said:
free free free
only available through your mobile device: www.phonerotica.com
if you go through desktop, it takes you to an explanation page and wants your phone number to txt you the above url. Just enter the above url in your mobile browser !!
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They want you to subscribe. How is it free?
Good job go for it
Dear Freind u are doing good job
http://www.neowin.net/news/googles-...ted?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
Wow, wtf?!? That's all I can say.
//Tap'd on my TBolt while grounded\\
wow smfh this is not cool Google -___-
Music works just fine.
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had absolutely nothing to do with the music beta though...
If you are mad at google, you have no idea what is going on.
Totally unsurprising, and not unreasonable.
+1 to g00s3y.
This has NOTHING to do with the music beta...
I find it unreasonable. This was clearly done at the whim of the movie studios in the name of anti piracy measures. The reason I can be sure is the moronic logic. Anyone willing to pay in the first place wouldn't be the pirate type. Who is going to pay to watch it just to pirate it? They are making it so people who root their phones can't pay for the content. That leaves one way to view it, piracy. Also if you are smart enough to root a phone, you can certainly fire up a torrent. Shame on Google for bending over to the mpaa and movie studios. Can't say I care all that much though. The studios are shooting themselves in the foot. People will only take so much bull**** and keep dealing with it. If only they had even half a clue what consumers want.
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I mean...they're all businesses looking to make money. How would you feel if the product you guys worked hard on was being stolen and you weren't getting hard-earned money for it?
@darkroom. I agree with u. There is always get movies n music for free. Y screw those who may actually possibly want to save themselves the footwork and actually cough up the money to buy it..
That and in time a hack will be made to bypass the check for rooted devices. Google should know that already ... as they said themselves that as long as there is security in place there will be a procedure to bypass it...
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I find it unreasonable.
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Then, you have the option of not paying for Google videos. That will show them. Isn't the free market great?
This was clearly done at the whim of the movie studios in the name of anti piracy measures.
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Your point being?
Who is going to pay to watch it just to pirate it?
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Of course you're right, because pirates always create their own content, they never start with something that was paid for (camcorder in a theater, unencrypting a DVD, etc.).
They are making it so people who root their phones can't pay for the content. That leaves one way to view it, piracy.
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Really? The only device you can watch video on is your phone? Almost everyone else has a range of choices - theater, DVD, Blu-ray, Netflix, TV, etc. Phones pretty much suck for watching movies, they have small screens and poor audio. The market continues to move toward large screen home theater systems. You don't know what you're missing.
I fear that Android's time as a fully-open platform is limited... If they want to play nice with the corporate world, doors are going to get shut on our faces. At least that's how I see it...
Yeah, lets say screw the law, google will just pay all the lawsuits that they get, no problem. Some of you are idiots.
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I fear that Android's time as a fully-open platform is limited...
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Huh? Android was never "a fully open platform." The kernel (only) is licensed under the GPL, but most of the rest is licensed under Apache or similar, which has no requirement to provide source. Google makes everything fully available to hardware manufacturers only. That they've made most of it available to anyone is through their generosity, it's got nothing to do with being "open" in the FOSS sense.
What _is_ "open" is application development and distribution - no need to get the gardener to pot your plant inside the wall.
Don't like Google's terms for their forthcoming movie rental biz? Write your own app, and start your own competing one. Google hasn't done anything to stop you.
At the end of the day 10 dollars is too much for a movie. There are way more professions that should make that kinda money. Teachers and doctor's and people like that should be the paid people not the producer who gave input of a video. I'll pirate till they choose to reduce they product
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At the end of the day 10 dollars is too much for a movie. There are way more professions that should make that kinda money. Teachers and doctor's and people like that should be the paid people not the producer who gave input of a video. I'll pirate till they choose to reduce they product
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So, you rationalize your illegal actions, instead of just avoiding the product altogether. You're the problem, not the solution.
Good to see a few people see how reasonable this is. To Google consumers, developers and the 'big wigs' come first, not the tinkers and hackers. As others stated, Google is in the business of making money.
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So, you rationalize your illegal actions, instead of just avoiding the product altogether. You're the problem, not the solution.
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Probably thinks $2.99 is too much for an app that he uses everyday too.
Berzerker7 said:
I mean...they're all businesses looking to make money. How would you feel if the product you guys worked hard on was being stolen and you weren't getting hard-earned money for it?
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Thanks man, I work in the film industry and never can seem to get the point across that its how i support my family. People seem to have the perspective today that well i don't have the money then they buy a case of beer or something and download a movie and its no big deal. Its just like software developers you need to support the community and I'm sure most do but I can't blame the studios for protecting their lively hood. Pirating moves does effect people. However I am a rooted user and still feel its to bad I can't buy movies on a rooted device as I would on a regular basis.
Hey guys.
Can somebody give me a link to applanet. When I try it doesn't work.
Thanks in advance
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its been offline for a while now....guess youll have to wait till they get a new server or something
search for blackmart alpha....is a good alternative
longhorn24 said:
Hey guys.
Can somebody give me a link to applanet. When I try it doesn't work.
Thanks in advance
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search for blackmart alpha....is a good alternative
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That's nice for testing apps without the market's refund time frame.
but paid apps should be paid for. especially when they're coming from private devs.
Have you thought about actually paying for your apps? Or is that too much to ask of you?
Pathetic.
Yes, paying for apps with only a 15 minute return window is not enough. That's barely enough time to download the app on my sprint 3g connection. And leaves no time to try it. So rather than not buy apps for fear of wasting my money I will pirate the app to try it out for a day or 2. Then I will purchase it or if I don't like it I will uninstall.
If you don't like it, tough. Until Google increases the refund time that is how I will continue as will many thousands
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Yes, paying for apps with only a 15 minute return window is not enough. That's barely enough time to download the app on my sprint 3g connection. And leaves no time to try it. So rather than not buy apps for fear of wasting my money I will pirate the app to try it out for a day or 2. Then I will purchase it or if I don't like it I will uninstall.
If you don't like it, tough. Until Google increases the refund time that is how I will continue as will many thousands
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Oh please, that's flipping wonderful for you that you don't think 15 minutes is enough. It doesn't change the fact you should be paying for them.
That's all pirates do, weakly justify their actions. If you want it for free, just admit it, don't sugarcoat it.
Everyone hides behind the veil of "oh, I just want to try it without limitations and then I'll buy it". I'd eat my socks if there was a way to prove that even 5% of all software pirates actually do that.
You are a sad person. Don't cast blanket judgement on everybody in a group for the actions of a few or many. We are people, we want value for our money and until there is a way to legally assure we will be satisfied with our purchase we will do what it takes to be satisfied.
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You are a sad person. Don't cast blanket judgement on everybody in a group for the actions of a few or many. We are people, we want value for our money and until there is a way to legally assure we will be satisfied with our purchase we will do what it takes to be satisfied.
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You mean you'll side-step a system that was created in response to all the free-loading that was happening with the original refund timeline.
Blah blah blah, be as self-righteous and offended as you want, what you're doing is wrong and you know it. You wish it weren't so, and you're trying your hardest to justify it, but that just makes it more sad.
If you need more than 15 minutes to test an app, in my opinion, you should probably be buying it anyway. I mean, come on, the most expensive of apps are like $10? with the norm being 99 cents?
Get real.
I wont spend a penny on something I don't want, I know its not much money but I'm not a charity. And no 15 minute isn't enough time and even though I spend time in the app I don't feel I owe the publisher anything for that time if I feel I don't want it. If they don't release a free version there isn't a way to know.
Forgive me for trying to be frugal and make wise decisions with my money.
To fix the system there needs to be more free/trial versions. Or increase the refund time. Honestly I prefer there to be more trial versions
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I wont spend a penny on something I don't want, I know its not much money but I'm not a charity. And no 15 minute isn't enough time and even though I spend time in the app I don't feel I owe the publisher anything for that time if I feel I don't want it. If they don't release a free version there isn't a way to know.
Forgive me for trying to be frugal and make wise decisions with my money.
To fix the system there needs to be more free/trial versions. Or increase the refund time. Honestly I prefer there to be more trial versions
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Again, it really doesn't matter what you feel you owe the publisher. It's a system that works by you giving them money for their work. That's that. Prices and commerce are not dictated by the opinions of the customers on what something is worth. If you don't think something is worth buying, you don't buy it. If you think it might be, you try it after buying and utilize the return policy. This is not rocket science, don't even try to spin some bull**** sob story of "trying to be frugal". You're being dishonest by sidestepping the already difficult environment for developers and supporting a site that undermines the concept of paying for apps. What a joke :/
Try and then return? Yes, sounds nice. Shame 15 minutes isn't enough time. Wasn't bad when it was an hour, they reduced it to deter pirating however pirates don't need but a minute and it hurt everybody else. There are toomany variables that can happen in 15 minutes that might prevent my ability to return it in time ie RL, calls, data issues, phone issues, etc etc. The system is not good. If it were better then I wouldn't need to pirate the apps.
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Try and then return? Yes, sounds nice. Shame 15 minutes isn't enough time. Wasn't bad when it was an hour, they reduced it to deter pirating however pirates don't need but a minute and it hurt everybody else. There are toomany variables that can happen in 15 minutes that might prevent my ability to return it in time ie RL, calls, data issues, phone issues, etc etc. The system is not good. If it were better then I wouldn't need to pirate the apps.
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Banks don't give you loans and then excuse you from returning the money because your internet went down or your car died.
Just FYI. That's not how the world operates, and still doesn't justify the piracy. You want it for free, so just take it and keep quiet, anything more is just cowardice to me.
Your point is made, you turn a blind eye to the flaws in the system and blame the consumer. /applaud
Applanet = warez = thread closed
I just need to vent. I'm a fairly active developer for the android platform. I've created a number of kernel patches and applications that I have released at no charge to the community for about 10 or so devices.
All this I do in my "spare time", which I have very little of because I am a full time professional student who takes on 32 credit hour semesters.
Recently, since my 1994 geo prizm is literally falling apart and I was hoping to scrounge together a little bit of money to get a new car so I don't end up stranded on my way to class, I decided to release a paid application. Fastcharge / Force AC toggle which allows you to toggle on and off the force AC feature. A feature which I have personally implemented and released source patches for on a number of devices.
Not only in every thread where I released the patch on a device did I write up how to toggle the feature through the command line, but I also stated that I also implemented a toggle into my completely free application that you can also download from the market, IncrediControl.
In good faith and knowing how annoying licensing is, I elected to not include licensing in my application. This is a huge regret.
Within a couple days of releasing the application to the market I googled it to see if anyone was talking about it. One of the first links was to a piracy site where a user was requesting the widget, to which another user obliged and posted the apk to a filesharing site. Doing something I never though I would have to do, I filed a DMCA takedown request, which was answered quickly and the app was taken down. Monitoring the thread, every single time a link gets taken down, another user requests the app and the original user reuploads it, most recently to 11 different sites.
So now, after filing dozens of takedown requests. This user has decided to unzip my apk, change out the artwork, and now is going around releasing it as his own work.
Really, all this to avoid paying $1.50 (only ~$1 of it actually going to me) to an individual whose yearly income is low enough that he doesn't have to file taxes?
This disgusts me.
This is even worse than the 50% "order cancellation rate" that the widget has. I'm not stupid, I know exactly what users are doing, but yet initially I was willing to ignore it. But this has gone too far.
What is even the point of pissing off a developer so much that he is considering saying screw the platform all together? It doesn't even make sense. We, the developers improve your devices, generally at little or no cost, and this is how we're repaid. With ~50% of current users of the application having pirated it. To avoid paying just over $1.
Now before someone even counters with the "my area doesn't support paid applications" argument I've actually gladly GIVEN the widget away to a number of users who casually mentioned in the release threads that they couldn't download it for this reason. Not to mention, everyone knows there are apps that unlock the market in these areas to be able to purchase apps.
How much more generous can a developer be than to provide source code patches for a feature, provide information on how to toggle the feature, provide a COMPLETELY FREE way to toggle the feature, and then charge a measly $1.50 for a secondary, slightly more convenient way to toggle.
Yet he's repaid like this .
Of course, this must suck for a developer like you. Unfortunately, it seems to happen more and more often, and all I can really say is:
I would gladly pay a few bucks for an application like IC or BootManager. That BootManager seemed really interesting, but we can't buy apps from the Play Store without CC (and as a 16-year old, I don't have one). I asked the developer if he accepted Paypal, but he didn't.
Don't get me wrong, and this is not an attack to you personally: developers, if you made something really nice, and people will like it, 70% of the people will gladly pay for it, just make sure you allow them to.
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70% of the people will gladly pay for it, just make sure you allow them to.
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I honestly thought this was the case. It's really not. The problem is much worse than that. If 70% of users in the root community paid for apps it would be astonishing. Its made pretty clear by the number of users who download the app, back it up and then cancel the order.
If a 16 year old kid had made me that offer, the e-mail reply I sent would have the apk attached.
Well, that is a real flaw of Android: tweakability is really impressing, but these things make it really difficult to earn some money as a developer.
We have been thinking about anti-piracy measures as well, with stuff such as authentication with a server, and locking down the code and verifying integrity of APKs and stuff to make sure it's really hard to mess with the code, but it's just sad that there's a need for these measures..
The trouble is everything has piracy right from movies to game consoles through to mobiles and music.
I mean the iPhones appstore would be a hell of a lot bigger if there was no jailbreaking and installous.
Every platform has been cracked so you'll get it regardless of what you develop for.
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I think you know you just needed to vent but can I change your picture.
There are some people in this world who just don't buy the idea of an idea as property. That's not compatible with this business model. That's the first problem.
The next problem is that
there's a million and one apps out there and which one are we going to choose? Where does it start, where does it end? We all have our limits. What's yours?
For me, the app has to be something very unique and possible generate me cash. For example something I use every day at work. If it's something that the phone should do anyway I tend to skip it and save the $1 for the next phone that does it out of the box. Your app is a great thing, but there's many utility apps out there. It just doesn't fall into the kind of thing I'd cave my strict budgeting for. There are people here with a 1000 apps installed and you expect them to pay $1000 in this sense.
Another way would be having utility in the cloud and then the app is free. Another one of course, advertising.
The difference with both of these is we don't need to risk a credit card with the market. That's the main reason I personally haven't bought many apps and I'd imagine it's a problem for minors too.
The very community that allowed us to create the app fails to pay for it's products is like life itself.
I'd say make something for the iphone instead because there's more profit there but that would never have been possible, see what I'm saying? That's the 3rd problem.
So you've got 3 problems there all converging into one big push towards piracy. But remember, can your app assure security that the pirated version cannot for example? This is how one has to think.
In short,
you can't do something and hope to make a bit from it on the side. You got to go out from the start and get the money aspect central from the start. I mean, that's business and of course that's exactly what the android community works hard to free us from.
Still, summarising those 3 points for suggestion:
- offer something free things can't (i.e. security, brand etc) For example, I never run pirated stuff for fear of insecurity on my data whereas I'll try out software that way on an old PC
- can always put a service in the cloud aka the javascript trap
- iphone is there if you want...
- needs to "the one app" a certain person would pay for, not something everyone likes
Also just to make that point again, if one does not believe in property then inconveniently there is no moral crime here. I suggest learn to live with this and go with the flow
I hope google sells PlayStore cards (like itunes cards) that allows user to buy apps, music, movies, books without a credit card. I really want to buy some amazing apps but i dont have a credit card so i just use free apps. I think that if u cant buy an app that cant be a reason to piracy or sidedownload that app.
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For me, the app has to be something very unique and possible generate me cash. For example something I use every day at work. If it's something that the phone should do anyway I tend to skip it and save the $1 for the next phone that does it out of the box. Your app is a great thing, but there's many utility apps out there. It just doesn't fall into the kind of thing I'd cave my strict budgeting for. There are people here with a 1000 apps installed and you expect them to pay $1000 in this sense.
Another way would be having utility in the cloud and then the app is free. Another one of course, advertising.
The difference with both of these is we don't need to risk a credit card with the market. That's the main reason I personally haven't bought many apps and I'd imagine it's a problem for minors too.
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The feature is 100% unique and so is the widget. Not to mention, if you didn't want to pay the $1, I provided a free way to toggle the feature in the utility app. The point is, that there is nothing forcing people to pay for the widget to use the feature. But instead of using the free option provided, they not only pirate the paid app, but edit the artwork and release it for free as their own. It defies logic.
Also, ad based apps don't work with the rooted community. I learned that early on. Myfree utility app is ad supported. With over 40,000 installs you would think it would make even a dollar a day. Nope, makes nearly nothing. That's when I realized that the same niche I was marketing to are the same people who block ads. Even if someone didn't want to block ads, they can't install a single ROM that doesn't include an ad blocking hosts file out of the box.
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[...] How much more generous can a developer be than to provide source code patches for a feature, provide information on how to toggle the feature, provide a COMPLETELY FREE way to toggle the feature, and then charge a measly $1.50 for a secondary, slightly more convenient way to toggle.
Yet he's repaid like this .
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Be sure you're looking at all sides. Yes, you're in a losing war with guys intent on pirating your app. You can't stop them, and well, you goofed on the licensing, so someone will no doubt release the clone.
First of all, don't do the Big Media thing and assume that everybody that pirates your app would have paid for it if it hadn't been available. A lot of folks collect, or just try something once. You'll only work yourself into a funk thinking about all that money you "would" have if only they hadn't been able to pirate it. They wouldn't have. At least not all of them.
More importantly, be aware that placing something out there with value does reach folks that otherwise would have no idea of you or your plight. More than once, I've purchased an app that I don't really need, but found clever and cheap enough I can buy it without thinking about the investment. I've spent more on Android software at $1-15 over the last year than I did over the last 25+ at $30-100 a pop. I've only refunded an app once, by accident.
Finally, be up front about your situation. A guy trying to make do does influence my impulse buying. So does his reputation. If you're doing a lot, be sure that's clear on your app page, and let us know clearly you're the guy that also brought us whatever.
I am curious, though: How much did you actually bring in?
Chad- thanks for telling your story, I agree that you have every right to be disappointed. Especially the buying and refunding, that to me send almost worse because you can't stop dedicated pirating, but I would have hoped the rest would have bought the app.
It's easy to forget the human side of development, so thanks for sharing your side.
Jesus christ Chad. This is f$%&*#@ ridiculous. Probably the best and most generous kernel dev I have ever come into contact with, and people are cheating you out of 1.50. Please don't abandon Android. I need kernels when I get my rezound! but in all seriousness, warez needs to stop.
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Yep. Sucks. After getting serious about android , which wasn't too far in, joining with a nexus one and seeing all the free HARD work we get, I definitely try buying stuff I use. If I can't pay sometimes I will see if dev does something else I can donate to. Its an issue I've thought about and part of it really boils down to how sorry people are in general. They want free and cheap. $1 is laughable even when it can be easily had for free. You really should market yourself a bit even though you don't want to. And people should really put a complimentary $5 or so budget a month or more and try to support devs. Maybe if you have something he gave free but has an app you won't use for a buck, buy the dollar app and uninstall after the 15 minute period. Or throw him a 5 through PayPal or something. Its simple really. If these devs don't have to resort to ramen and water they keep dev'ing especially for the community supporting him or her. And if they're eating vegetables and have plenty of red bull money it gives them wings. Otoh, the devs that make us pay to reinstall an app after we bought it on another or lost our phone suck. Balls. Won't buys theirs anymore.
teach a man to fish, you feed him for life. teach a man to fastboot, and you create competency. and less threads on xda.
Maybe you should implement a system like some developers do where you download the app for free with a time limited trail, then they would go to another website to pay for the app to unlock it, and the unlock codes would be unique for every user which would minimize piracy.
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rafa6571 said:
I hope google sells PlayStore cards (like itunes cards) that allows user to buy apps, music, movies, books without a credit card. I really want to buy some amazing apps but i dont have a credit card so i just use free apps. I think that if u cant buy an app that cant be a reason to piracy or sidedownload that app.
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In the Netherlands we have prepaid Visa card.
Works well.
Maybe you google something similar in your own country.
(3V prepaid Visa cards)
That does suck but if someone wants to pirate an app even licencing doesn't stop them as there is an app that apparently patches licence checks.
It is so easy for even a non root and new user to find cracked apps, I have seen links on here and even on peoples facebook sites, it's got to the point where people can just browse a webpage and click a link to get the cracked version of an app.
Unfortunately if someone wants to crack it they can. Unless you could implement your own security check somehow, something obfuscated in the code, licencing is the only alternative as it would stop people using backed up cancelled versions at least.
Unfortunately it seems a lot of people just don't want to pay for apps.
Dave
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also have to look at both sides. some people just refuse to pay for **** whatever it is, or get it as cheaply as they can. being android apps, the free route is how they're going to go. but the other side, you hsould be grateful for all the people that do pay. they're the ones helping keeping google, open source, android and everything in between chugging along. open source is the future and you can tell every corporation i said that. and thanks for you your work even though i've never used it.
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Also just to make that point again, if one does not believe in property then inconveniently there is no moral crime here. I suggest learn to live with this and go with the flow
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There is plenty to disagree with in your post as it all seems like an attempt at rationalizing ways to get around the system. This last statement is a ridiculous attempt at summarizing why stealing is OK. Your morals don't define the crime, the law does. Stealing property, physical or intellectual, is not legal and not right regardless of your morals or lack of.
Chad,
I am sorry to hear of your products' abuse. I used your kernels all the time on my Incredible devices and bought IncrediControl to support development. I have purchased many applications just to support development and believe that is the way to get high quality applications.
Piracy is just so damn easy on Android. I know ppl that are doing it who I wouldn't even expect to be doing such a thing. This guy I know love android only because he can get everything free by just googling the apk.
awww thats sad i feel really bad for you!
I've used pre paid visa debit cards to buy apps. You can find them in Any money shop like Cheque cashing places for example. You can even just stick a dicky diver (£5) on them. Perfect for situations like this
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Hello dear fellow XDA members
About 2 months ago, I got interested in Android App Development. Having no Java experience, I looked around the internet for tutorials on it.
Fast forward to today and here I am, able to make some basic yet useful applications. I've been thinking about making a few bucks by in-app advertising and in-app purchases. I have a few questions:
1) Do you think it is advisable to put ads in my app? What if the number of downloads are pretty good?
2 How many downloads should I have on my app so as to put ads in my app successfully?
3) Is admob free? Are there any fees that I have to pay so as to get ads on my app?
4) How, where and which type of adds will I get for my app? Is there some specific procedure to go through so as to add advertisements to my app?
Answers to the above questions and a basic step-by-step (along with all the money I have to pay for ads) mini tutorial of how advertising should be done would be very helpful
Thanks in advance
p.s. XDA is awesome :"D
Why you even want to put ads in your app
make it open source and developers will support you and you will get many donates for you
3lo0sh said:
Why you even want to put ads in your app
make it open source and developers will support you and you will get many donates for you
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Thanks but that wasn't the type of answer I was looking for.
Anyways, I was just curious about the ads part. I'll give a thought bout making it open source. Maybe sometime later but not now.
So if you could just clarify my doubts based on the ads part, I'd be very thankful
3lo0sh said:
Why you even want to put ads in your app
make it open source and developers will support you and you will get many donates for you
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Exactly
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Hey try this out, its a link to a Google search page. I looked a couple of the results - it will be a better answer than you've been getting.
https://www.google.com/search?client=lightning&q=putting ads in apps
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Thanks but that wasn't what I was looking for. As I said, I will look into making some of my apps open source but later on. Not now.
So if you'd answer my questions regarding ads, I'd be satisfied
shraey96 said:
Thanks but that wasn't what I was looking for. As I said, I will look into making some of my apps open source but later on. Not now.
So if you'd answer my questions regarding ads, I'd be satisfied
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Try app of the day.
Also a good start for your apps.
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DanielBink said:
Try app of the day.
Also a good start for your apps.
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Umm, how is app of the day related to advertising?
It's something different as far as I know.
Could someone please answer my questions regarding the ads part?
Thanks
shraey96 said:
Umm, how is app of the day related to advertising?
It's something different as far as I know.
Could someone please answer my questions regarding the ads part?
Thanks
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You can try asking some companies.
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Surprise-surprise. I already did use Google. Didn't get any proper answers that could satisfy me. Hence I asked.
Again, thanks for the piping hot answers etc etc
This is a quote from another developer from the Unity forums. The link is at the end of the quote, I copied and pasted this is unaltered.
"I hear the average cost to acquire a new user via AdMob is about $2 per user. If you charge $1 buck per game (earning yourself 70c,) that's definitively not cost effective, and worse: the $2 is more of an average based on the fact that most people using AdMob are freemium games. If you are actually selling your game, it's very likely fewer users will even look at your game even if they click on the ad.*
Download a game with ads, and look at what gets promoted. There is a reason why most the stuff there are free games. Not to mention: if a user is seeing those ads, it's very likely because they rather see ads than pay to buy the ad-free version, what makes you think that kind of user will click on an ad to BUY a game. However, many may get a free game, and once playing, the game may employ psychological games to trigger the gambling urge to spend money with IAP."
Starsman Games,*Jan 8, 2013
http://forum.unity3d.com/threads/did-advertising-with-admob-or-similar-help-you.165392/
Hope that helps on one of your questions. I research, I'm not a developer. There was a lot more that I found, but I can't do all the work.?
Change your keywords up.
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