First let me start this post by explaining my situation.....
I am on my parents AT&T family plan as a $10 add on dumb phone. Previously I have been using other networks (T-Mobile) smart phones to get around having to pay for a data plan. This has worked for the last several years but I have just now upgraded to a phone with a micro SIM (Nexus 5 if course).
Now to the real reason I am posting...
Will AT&T give me a micro SIM without a smart phone plan? I'm not quite sure, but I am fairly certain micro SIMs are only in smart phones. So logically they would require a data plan to get a micro SIM. I have already cut my regular sized SIM to fit, but I botched the cut a little and while it works I'm afraid it may end up falling into if the tray and getting stuck inside the phone.
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I wouldn't worry about it falling into the phone. The tray should keep it where it should be. But you can always go to the at&t store and ask. Just don't give them your name and number until you know they won't charge you. Otherwise you could ask for a new Sim card and try the cut again.
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Since AT&T doesn't have a full IMEI listing of Google's Nexus 5 in their databases, it' unlikely that they care or would bother to check - you just won't have access to mobile data - roaming or "home" since the account or line isn't provisioned for it - I used to have a line on Gophone but now keeping one on T-Mo's PAYG only, and, T-Mo doesn't recognize or "identify" it as a Nexus 5 under "My Account" - I just get redirected to the Data Plan web page to sign up or switch plan. WiFi on the N5 functioning well & I'm using Talkatone to call out while sitting in the living room.
Can you request a new micro-Sim over the telephone & switch your line to it instead of making a trip to the store, have your "folks" call - if necessary, you can pop the new micro-Sim into an full-size Sim adapater, and get it activated/working on a "non-smart" or dumb phone first. Then, move it to the N5 to use - those of us with multiple GSM unlocked phones do the moving around all the time and AT&T WS really never give me any hassle, you just won't have access to unpaid for Mobile Data, whether it's 4G LTE, 3G/HSPA or + or 2G/Edge, etc. etc.
Or if your current Sim is truly screwed, order a Sim cutter online, bring an old dumb phone to the store and ask for a new regular Sim and then cut it using the Sim cutter they are less than $5 and they are really easy to use. I've cut quite a few without any issues
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mlopes1988 said:
I wouldn't worry about it falling into the phone. The tray should keep it where it should be. But you can always go to the at&t store and ask. Just don't give them your name and number until you know they won't charge you. Otherwise you could ask for a new Sim card and try the cut again.
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You sure? When I went I asked about that and he said the nexus 5 imei showed up in the database.
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You sure? When I went I asked about that and he said the nexus 5 imei showed up in the database.
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I don't know personally since I use LTE. But from what I hear the imei doesn't register. I would take anything the store says with a grain of salt. They want to charge you more if they can.
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nexus 4 was detected by at&t
nexus 5 will be as well, especially since it'll be sold by t-mobile (t-mobile phones are detected on at&t, the two carriers probably share IMEI lists)
some people have luck by first adding a data block (no MMS though) on the line while using a dumbphone, then switching SIMs (but you'll need to keep that data block)
I don't think they share lists. I have been using a LG G2X for the last three years without them detecting it. Even when they did detect a smart phone (used a HTC inspire for a while) I just popped my SIM in my old flip phone called them up, gave them imei from the dumb phone and had the data plan dropped.
Sounds like I just need to go to an AT&T store and try my luck. Think I will stick my SIM in my old phone before I go.
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If u don't want to ask for a new Sim just cut your dumb phone full size down to a micro (see YouTube). Whether they change your plan is a gamble based in on the imei. Since they do not sell the n5 like tmo and sprint then chances are it's not on their list as a smart phone.
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I don't think they share lists. I have been using a LG G2X for the last three years without them detecting it. Even when they did detect a smart phone (used a HTC inspire for a while) I just popped my SIM in my old flip phone called them up, gave them imei from the dumb phone and had the data plan dropped.
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go read this thread. a lot of t-mobile phones are detected... those who aren't are either lucky or didn't get caught in the sweeps
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1446373
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Infuse owner here asking this for a friend. Can a inspire be unlocked to work with a att gophone simcard? If so are there any data limitations? Thanks
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Did some research and it appears it will work but inorder to have data ill have to root it, and its only on edge. So after I root it what do I have to do next?
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I don't have exact answers per se, but as an AT&T Mobility employee I have some advice and some warnings.
Advice: It would be much better to get a "4G" SIM instead of the GoPhone one, just in case this causes any issues.
When you go activate the SIM, take another, non-smartphone, phone with you and say that that's what you will use. We will put the non-smartphone IMEI in the system and it will allow you to get the $50 unlimited talk,text, and web.
Once you have the "4G" SIM activated, and the non-smartphone IMEI registered, put the SIM in the Inspire. Now, the seemingly difficult part.
Warning: You MUST find the APN settings for our feature phones somewhere, if you can't, I will try to find them for you. The reasoning behind this is that more then likely the "web" included on the $50 package is only one the feature phone APN, instead of the smartphone one.
Secondly, don't be surprised if one day you stop having internet connectivity. As we do with our postpaid customers, we also have a system for prepaid that sweeps every IMEI used and applies (or in your case, removes) the appropriate data packages.
I know that our prepaid data packages are a ripoff, but this is one way to do it, if only temporarily.
P.S. Where did you hear it would only be EDGE? That seems incorrect to me.
Bronk93 said:
Did some research and it appears it will work but inorder to have data ill have to root it, and its only on edge. So after I root it what do I have to do next?
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Look up H2O its a prepaid service that uses at&t towers and band so you don't have to unlock the phone and its 60$ a month for unlimited talk text and web
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Bronk93 said:
Did some research and it appears it will work but inorder to have data ill have to root it, and its only on edge. So after I root it what do I have to do next?
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The inspire will work ina go phone similar card as it is what I run mine one. Data speeds are the same but cost more in the long run.
danielsaenz said:
I don't have exact answers per se, but as an AT&T Mobility employee I have some advice and some warnings.
Advice: It would be much better to get a "4G" SIM instead of the GoPhone one, just in case this causes any issues.
When you go activate the SIM, take another, non-smartphone, phone with you and say that that's what you will use. We will put the non-smartphone IMEI in the system and it will allow you to get the $50 unlimited talk,text, and web.
Once you have the "4G" SIM activated, and the non-smartphone IMEI registered, put the SIM in the Inspire. Now, the seemingly difficult part.
Warning: You MUST find the APN settings for our feature phones somewhere, if you can't, I will try to find them for you. The reasoning behind this is that more then likely the "web" included on the $50 package is only one the feature phone APN, instead of the smartphone one.
Secondly, don't be surprised if one day you stop having internet connectivity. As we do with our postpaid customers, we also have a system for prepaid that sweeps every IMEI used and applies (or in your case, removes) the appropriate data packages.
I know that our prepaid data packages are a ripoff, but this is one way to do it, if only temporarily.
P.S. Where did you hear it would only be EDGE? That seems incorrect to me.
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So if I am understanding this right, the phone must be rooted, and the APN needs to be changed to reflect a featured phone data plan instead of the smartphone data plan that the droid is expecting to use. Along with using a 4G simcard, that should be it right? The apn settings are all over the internet, i just read them, its like wap.cingular.com or something, but whats this sweeping system you speak of, does it compare the sim card over the air to the imei its 'registered with' opposed to the imei of the phone its installed in?
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So if I am understanding this right, the phone must be rooted, and the APN needs to be changed to reflect a featured phone data plan instead of the smartphone data plan that the droid is expecting to use. Along with using a 4G simcard, that should be it right? The apn settings are all over the internet, i just read them, its like wap.cingular.com or something, but whats this sweeping system you speak of, does it compare the sim card over the air to the imei its 'registered with' opposed to the imei of the phone its installed in?
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It will work just fine stock. I have been running prepaid for awhile now and have not had a single issue. The apns will set on their own to the proper ones once you insert your similar card.
And they are right att dies sweep the IMEI but it doesn't matter as I gave reps my IMEI when I got the inspire and swapped my account from my old captivate. Also I font use a data plan as I am normally around wifi at all times. The only backdraw is if you have less then $5 on your account the data won't connect. ATT can't stop you from having any phone you want on prepaid. They tried with the IPhone and a lawsuite ended that.
go with h20..no contract means no problem
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go with h20..no contract means no problem
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Except, data speeds are kinda slow and the "Unlimited Data" on the $60/Mo plan is actually capped at 3GB..
so what happens after you reach the "cap"
Bronk93 said:
Infuse owner here asking this for a friend. Can a inspire be unlocked to work with a att gophone simcard? If so are there any data limitations? Thanks
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Im actually using an Inspire via GoPhone. I have been for a few months. I just went to a local att store and simply bought a simcard, some airtime, and activated that sim card, popped it in and voila! I dont recommend buying a cheap GoPhone and using the sim out of that because recently, att decide to start locking the sim that comes with that phone to that specific phone. I made that mistake the first time and found it out the hard way.
I only have the $25/mo plan and i buy a $25 data package when needed. I dont use a lot of data, since I have wifi available most of the time.
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Works good with prepaid just had to put apn in manually to get data working other than that perfect .
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Bronk93 said:
Did some research and it appears it will work but inorder to have data ill have to root it, and its only on edge. So after I root it what do I have to do next?
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You did horrible research.
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So I picked up an iPhone 5 today, which is destined for the wife. However, I had to have a couple of days to play w/ the new gadget naturally. I activated it on my account, and it works normally (AT&T unlimited LTE).
I also had bought a nano to micro sim adapter off Amazon. I popped the new nano sim out of the iPhone 5, put it in the adapter and then back into my AT&T One X. The HOX then worked fine as a phone for calls and texts, BUT NO DATA. It wasn't getting data of any speed at all through the AT&T cell network. No edge, 3g, HSPA, or 4G/LTE. Nada.
I haven't phoned AT&T yet, but I'm curious if the layout of a nano sim works in Micro Sim phones. Obv the adapter makes the plastic the right size, but the surface area of the actual circuity/contact is not the same shape as traditional or Micro SIM's.
This probably isn't the right sub-forum, but I wasn't certain where to post/discuss this. It's also a niche problem ATM for people who've got an iPhone 5 Nano sim and then adapt them to other phones.
If I can't get it sorted, I'll get a new SIM for the HOX from AT&T, and then perhaps getting a micro to nano cutter, and see if the reverse works, ie a micro sim in a nano slot.
When I use to switch back and forth from my iPhone to android, everything would work but data, I would have to call att. They said iPhone and other smartphones use different data plans so in order to use iPhone SIM with android. You would have to get it switched to a compatible plan. Don't know if it's still like that though
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tae_254 said:
When I use to switch back and forth from my iPhone to android, everything would work but data, I would have to call att. They said iPhone and other smartphones use different data plans so in order to use iPhone SIM with android. You would have to get it switched to a compatible plan. Don't know if it's still like that though
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Not in my case. As far as i know and im aware from my experience, you only need to change data plans from iphone/android to blackberry. Since the circuit is not fully making contact, that might be the reason or since the iphone now is using lte is using a different data plan, just a guess
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I had to call to switch between iPhone and android data. They still applied the unlimited option, but wouldn't get any data until I called them to switch. I was able to go to Windows Phone from android just fine, and vice versa. But anytime the change involved an iPhone it didn't work without calling att. They told me it had something to do with the visual voicemail. Each iPhone change also involved completely resetting voicemail.
I thought the whole big deal with apple vs Nokia on the sim war was that the nano sim apple wanted, and already implemented apparantly, was full compatible with all the previous types with an adapter. I haven't seen one, but they are supposed to have the same contacts in the same orientation.
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Try going into your apn settings and restore default apn. That worked for me when i was switching between my one x and my inspire.
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I sell cell phones and iphones have their own data plan on ATT. Gotta have the right data plan for it to work
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specter491 said:
I sell cell phones and iphones have their own data plan on ATT. Gotta have the right data plan for it to work
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I switch from iphone to android and vice versa all the time...
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On LTE plans, att ties the IMEI to the account. I bet if you took 2 HOX phones and swapped sims with each other data wouldn't work either.
I have a one x, vivid, inspire, and iPhone 3gs and and my sim works in all devices with data.
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On LTE plans, att ties the IMEI to the account. I bet if you took 2 HOX phones and swapped sims with each other data wouldn't work either.
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No they don't. For LTE on non-iPhone to work, you need to use pta APN which requires a correct data plan code on your account, nothting to do with IMEI. What happened to OP is that data plan was switched to iPhone plan when he activated iPhone and it no longer works for non-iPhone. iPhone data plans work for iPhone only but non-iPhone data plans typically work for any phone. I'd bet if he ask AT&T to switch back the data plan code, it will work for both iPhone 5 and HOX.
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I have a one x, vivid, inspire, and iPhone 3gs and and my sim works in all devices with data.
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Once you have the correct data plan code on your account, you are basically backward compatible with all old phones. Not the other way around.
This forum is for discussion of The HTC One X, and it's it's variants only. Please refrain from posting off-topic threads on the forums..We have an sister iphone forum you can refer to.
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i currently have a nexus 4. i walked into a retail att store and asked for a microsim card and they handed one over free of charge. first off, i'd like to clarify if this sim will work in a nexus 5. is there an LTE specific sim that i'll need? or can i just swap from the n4 to the n5?
second, i'm currently using the $60/month gophone plan. i had to spoof an s4 imei with customer service in order to get proper hspa+ speeds. can i just leave everything as is (assuming my sim is good to go for a simple swap) and i'll get LTE speeds? well, not leave quite everything... i assume i'll need to switch from the phone to the pta apn, but other than that, will i be good to go?
i wanna be sure my transition to the n5 goes as smoothly as possible.
You should be good to go.
If they provisioned your current micro SIM for an S4 then you would already have the LTE SOC associated with that SIM.
All you need to do is pop in your SIM once you get the Nexus 5 and enter the right APN and you should be set.
What I'd watch out for though is when they do an IMEI sweep, if AT&T can read it as a Nexus 5 (or a generic smartphone) they will provision your account as such and you'll be put on a 3G data plan (which is the default for a smartphone they don't carry). This will cause you to have to get a new SIM and have customer service provision your account as an S4 again.
Full disclosure, I'm a former AT&T store manager (left a little over a year ago) and I've seen this sorta thing happen before. If you're on go phone, unfortunately you don't have as much leeway as a post paid customer when it comes to both customer service in store or over the phone. Personally, I'd tell them you had an LG G2 (D800) as the model number will be pretty similar, so that can help you get swapped back easier should they screw up your account.
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Hi, I was thinking about buying a nexus 5, but I didn't know if it would support my t-mobile plan. Any answers?
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Questions go in the question forum, not general. The phone will work on t-mobile. There are plenty of threads please look before posting.
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My N5 would not connect to the data network with my grandfathered unlimited plan.
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My N5 would not connect to the data network with my grandfathered unlimited plan.
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Call their support and verify your IMEI and SIM card #. It should work. You might need a new SIM card if you cut it down to fit your N5 since older simcards don't support LTE.
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Call their support and verify your IMEI and SIM card #. It should work. You might need a new SIM card if you cut it down to fit your N5 since older simcards don't support LTE.
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Worked with support for almost two weeks until finally they changed my plan to a measured one. They said the phone was not compatible with the plan though I used my N4 with absolutely no problem. They were not selling the N5 at the time and the support guy I work with had not been trained yet on the N5 (his training was scheduled that next week). They insisted it had nothing to do with the SIM card (I wanted to get a new one but I had gotten a new SIM when I upgraded to the N4).
They tried all sorts of things to get the N5 to connect -- the signal indicator showed LTE, but I was only able to get 2G services (phone, mail and SMS). After the plan change I connected immediately to the LTE data network.
T-Mobile had announced their intention to migrate grandfathered plans to the new metered plans so I was expecting it, but not so soon, and not necessarily because of my upgrade to the N5.
I bought mine direct from Google and it has worked since day one.
I've read that the one T-Mobile sells in the store is identical to the Google play version, but I wanted the 32G one.
But yeah. I'm on T-Mobile and no problems at all. If you aren't already using the new smaller sim cards you'll need to pick one up, but if you're coming from N4 etc you probably already have one.
Literally mine was Plug and play.
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jpchopper said:
I bought mine direct from Google and it has worked since day one.
I've read that the one T-Mobile sells in the store is identical to the Google play version, but I wanted the 32G one.
But yeah. I'm on T-Mobile and no problems at all. If you aren't already using the new smaller sim cards you'll need to pick one up, but if you're coming from N4 etc you probably already have one.
Literally mine was Plug and play.
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I expected mine to be seemless, too. When I was checking my account it had no name associated with the plan -- hadn't since I could remember.
Sounds like a nightmare... that's really weird. Mine worked out of the box. I did have an issue with the 4.42 OTA and root, though, ended up flashing to stock using the Google 4.42 image and after that it worked again. Did yours work before the OTA?
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I have an older and bigger sim card. Would I have to pay more to get a micro for my n5?
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Falfner said:
I have an older and bigger sim card. Would I have to pay more to get a micro for my n5?
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you shouldnt. i exchanged mine out for free.
Falfner said:
I have an older and bigger sim card. Would I have to pay more to get a micro for my n5?
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http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/sim-card
Free, scroll down and pick micro-SIM kit. When you get it, Go here:
http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/prepaid-activate
Activate using your existing number, which preserves your current account,etc. OR choose the $30/mo 100min/5GB plan.
does anyone know if att will auto detect the phone and upgrade you to a newer data plan? i know they do this automatically for iphones and any phone they have sold before on their network if you pop a sim chip in. really want to keep my old plan.
As far as I know they don't, didn't have any issues with mine when I activated it but I also don't have an unlimited data plan.
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N-Forced said:
As far as I know they don't, didn't have any issues with mine when I activated it but I also don't have an unlimited data plan.
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If you login into your att account, does it show what phone you have? Or is it just a grayed out icon of a generic phone image?
I guess that would confirm if att detects it or not.
Yea it says LG 820 if I remember correctly, it doesn't show my s3 anymore.
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I go back and forth between my note 2 and nexus 5 using the same Sim card all the time. I still have my unlimited data plan. Nothing is affected.
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