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The other day I was at Frys to look at the SR. They had the black one for $139.99. I looked at the tag and it said that they charge an extra $7 for the sim card.
I've been with att for almost forever and I don't think I've ever been charged for the sim card. Is this something new or is this something that Frys is doing?
Lets say I bought the phone and didn't buy the sim card from them, can I still use my old "3g" card and get the LTE speed if I am in a LTE area?
U have to call at&t if u u do that because you will have no data. They have to know you bought an lte phone or your data will not work at all. Alsoi went to at&t the gave me an lte sim card for free. But i dont think your 3g sim will work at all. Needs to be a 4g sim
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U have to call at&t if u u do that because you will have no data. They have to know you bought an lte phone or your data will not work at all. Alsoi went to at&t the gave me an lte sim card for free. But i dont think your 3g sim will work at all. Needs to be a 4g sim
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Sim card has no bearing on data type. Just let att know you upgraded to an lte phone.
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-Kevlar- said:
Sim card has no bearing on data type. Just let att know you upgraded to an lte phone.
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Not fully true, you have to get a new sim, they are called "4g" sims. or just you can just say plan sim card. also if you go to an att corp store you can get one for free!
Never go to a authorized retailer tho!!1 they will eff you stuff up!! ha
But you do need to get a new one to get faster internet speeds!
also you don't have to tell AT&t just use the phone for a day then they will send you a text saying, we see you're using a smart phone. to better server you we'll add the internet 2gb plan."
but if you want to start using the internet right away just call
Correct me if important wrong, but i think it matters what sim you have. I was on my old sim card and couldn't get LTE speed. Went to rogers bought an LTE sim...now on LTE speed.
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So I can put my 3g sim card on it but won't get LTE and just go to the att store and pick up the 4g card for free?
Saelee said:
So I can put my 3g sim card on it but won't get LTE and just go to the att store and pick up the 4g card for free?
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Oi, people these days...
Call AT&T and have them provision your line correctly, they have to add the LTE data plan for the radio to get LTE access.
It really doesn't matter what SIM you use, as long as they provision it correctly, but it is good to get a new SIM when you get a new phone... so yeah.
Only time you need a new SIM is on Verizon, for their LTE. ^^
You do need a new sim. If you were to plug in an older SIM, you would be able to text and make calls but you would have no data. If you go to an ATT store, they will replace your SIM with the LTE one for no charge, regardless of where you bought the phone. If you buy the phone from ATT they will do it when you get the phone. I have sold 3 skyrockets and none of them had worked with the older sims including my own. I do not know about other carriers and can only speak about ATT phones. I do not know about whether frys has to pay att per activation or for the sim cards, so that may be why they have to charge 7 dollars. If you do not want to pay the 7 dollar frys fee, then get the phone, head to the ATT store, then replace the SIM for free.
Even if ATT provisions the line correctly, the phone will not pick up the non lte sim card. I worked with the ATT sales tech on the day the skyrocket came out. He provisioned the line, plugged in my old sim, and it wouldnt pick up LTE. Then he realized they need to use the brand new stack of SIM cards, set up the new sim, plugged it in and I had blazing fast LTE.
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You do need a new sim. If you were to plug in an older SIM, you would be able to text and make calls but you would have no data. If you go to an ATT store, they will replace your SIM with the LTE one for no charge, regardless of where you bought the phone. If you buy the phone from ATT they will do it when you get the phone. I have sold 3 skyrockets and none of them had worked with the older sims including my own. I do not know about other carriers and can only speak about ATT phones. I do not know about whether frys has to pay att per activation or for the sim cards, so that may be why they have to charge 7 dollars. If you do not want to pay the 7 dollar frys fee, then get the phone, head to the ATT store, then replace the SIM for free.
Even if ATT provisions the line correctly, the phone will not pick up the non lte sim card. I worked with the ATT sales tech on the day the skyrocket came out. He provisioned the line, plugged in my old sim, and it wouldnt pick up LTE. Then he realized they need to use the brand new stack of SIM cards, set up the new sim, plugged it in and I had blazing fast LTE.
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Very true...
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Att does have 4g sims but they still say 3g. But yes u do need the correct sim to get lte
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There's no such thing as an "LTE SIM Card". Plain and simple.
Normal size SIM cards are SKU 70357. Micro SIM cards are SKU 70290.
That's it folks.
The data plan is what has to be changed. For example, I took the SIM out of my Inspire and put it in my Skyrocket demo and got no data until I manually changed the IMEI to the Skyrocket.
Same SIM card, but a new data plan.
Oh, SIM cards are actually $25 and $35 for micro SIMs. Agents and ARs can charge if they want. COR stores shouldn't charge you, however.
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Since we're on the topic of SIM cards and the data plans they use, I've got a couple questions I'm hoping you guys can answer:
I have an iPhone 4s which has my grandfathered unlimited plan. When I throw my 4s SIM into my skyrocket, I get 3g speeds (have to play with APN settings). Now, I don't have LTE in my area yet but with all this news of LTE springing up, I'm thinking it's coming soon. Here's what I want to do. I want to be able to switch from 4s to skyrocket freely without having to contact ATT everytime.
My questions:
1) Should I move my skyrocket to my main line to get a new sim to get LTE then cut it so it fits my 4s too?
2) Will the SIM work correctly in my 4s after changing to the LTE data plan?
3) Can I call att and have them switch my plan to LTE using the current microsim?
4) Will the 4s SIM and all the functionality work after making the change?
I'm hoping someone went through this already so I can get good advice. I may just have to be the guinea pig if not.
I don't know about you guys, but I am pretty sure my iphone 4s's micro sim isn't an lte sim card, and it works perfectly fine as long as it's positioned correctly.
For data, all you have to do is configure the media net apn
Edit: missed the guy's post above me, whoops!
I just got a Skyrocket today and I swapped my Infuse simple into it and it has been working perfectly. I am not in an LTE enabled area but the next time in am down in Manhattan I will test the speed.
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So I'm leaving Verizon and want to go with prepaid for my new Nexus. ATT has the best coverage in my area and I like that GoPhone gives you un-throttled LTE speed. I have a brand new ATT sim card that I plan on activating, but I'm unsure about what IMEI to use. I have an old ATT Samsung Captivate that I can use the IMEI from, but if I use that will they setup my account without LTE? I've also heard that ATT does an IMEI scan every now and again and if they detect a device that isn't in their system it gets zapped and wont work any longer. Any truth to this? Maybe AIO is the better choice? Help!
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So I'm leaving Verizon and want to go with prepaid for my new Nexus. ATT has the best coverage in my area and I like that GoPhone gives you un-throttled LTE speed. I have a brand new ATT sim card that I plan on activating, but I'm unsure about what IMEI to use. I have an old ATT Samsung Captivate that I can use the IMEI from, but if I use that will they setup my account without LTE? I've also heard that ATT does an IMEI scan every now and again and if they detect a device that isn't in their system it gets zapped and wont work any longer. Any truth to this? Maybe AIO is the better choice? Help!
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From what I understand, the only thing they use the IMEI for is to determine a phone's capabilities. While using my N4, I went to their store, got an LTE capable phone, wrote down it's IMEI number, and called AT&T and told them that was my phone so they'd put me on an LTE plan.
But since the N5 is LTE ready, why wouldn't you give them the N5's IMEI?
I thought the IMEI had to be in ATT's system for it to work. The Nexus 5 is not officially supported by ATT.
The IMEI is just an identifier. It's mostly used to lock out stolen phones. As long as its not blacklisted you'll be able to use ATT's network. I've used plenty of other carriers phones on ATT and have never had an issue.
theesotericone said:
The IMEI is just an identifier. It's mostly used to lock out stolen phones. As long as its not blacklisted you'll be able to use ATT's network. I've used plenty of other carriers phones on ATT and have never had an issue.
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So I can use the Nexus IMEI even though its not an ATT phone?
That's what I'm planning on doing. lol If you're really that unsure you could always call ATT to verify.
Att might not have the nexus imeis yet. I remember for the nexus 4, I had to give them an s3's info. If you already have LTE on your phone, no reason to change anything with the carrier.
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First let me start this post by explaining my situation.....
I am on my parents AT&T family plan as a $10 add on dumb phone. Previously I have been using other networks (T-Mobile) smart phones to get around having to pay for a data plan. This has worked for the last several years but I have just now upgraded to a phone with a micro SIM (Nexus 5 if course).
Now to the real reason I am posting...
Will AT&T give me a micro SIM without a smart phone plan? I'm not quite sure, but I am fairly certain micro SIMs are only in smart phones. So logically they would require a data plan to get a micro SIM. I have already cut my regular sized SIM to fit, but I botched the cut a little and while it works I'm afraid it may end up falling into if the tray and getting stuck inside the phone.
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I wouldn't worry about it falling into the phone. The tray should keep it where it should be. But you can always go to the at&t store and ask. Just don't give them your name and number until you know they won't charge you. Otherwise you could ask for a new Sim card and try the cut again.
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Since AT&T doesn't have a full IMEI listing of Google's Nexus 5 in their databases, it' unlikely that they care or would bother to check - you just won't have access to mobile data - roaming or "home" since the account or line isn't provisioned for it - I used to have a line on Gophone but now keeping one on T-Mo's PAYG only, and, T-Mo doesn't recognize or "identify" it as a Nexus 5 under "My Account" - I just get redirected to the Data Plan web page to sign up or switch plan. WiFi on the N5 functioning well & I'm using Talkatone to call out while sitting in the living room.
Can you request a new micro-Sim over the telephone & switch your line to it instead of making a trip to the store, have your "folks" call - if necessary, you can pop the new micro-Sim into an full-size Sim adapater, and get it activated/working on a "non-smart" or dumb phone first. Then, move it to the N5 to use - those of us with multiple GSM unlocked phones do the moving around all the time and AT&T WS really never give me any hassle, you just won't have access to unpaid for Mobile Data, whether it's 4G LTE, 3G/HSPA or + or 2G/Edge, etc. etc.
Or if your current Sim is truly screwed, order a Sim cutter online, bring an old dumb phone to the store and ask for a new regular Sim and then cut it using the Sim cutter they are less than $5 and they are really easy to use. I've cut quite a few without any issues
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mlopes1988 said:
I wouldn't worry about it falling into the phone. The tray should keep it where it should be. But you can always go to the at&t store and ask. Just don't give them your name and number until you know they won't charge you. Otherwise you could ask for a new Sim card and try the cut again.
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You sure? When I went I asked about that and he said the nexus 5 imei showed up in the database.
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You sure? When I went I asked about that and he said the nexus 5 imei showed up in the database.
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I don't know personally since I use LTE. But from what I hear the imei doesn't register. I would take anything the store says with a grain of salt. They want to charge you more if they can.
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nexus 4 was detected by at&t
nexus 5 will be as well, especially since it'll be sold by t-mobile (t-mobile phones are detected on at&t, the two carriers probably share IMEI lists)
some people have luck by first adding a data block (no MMS though) on the line while using a dumbphone, then switching SIMs (but you'll need to keep that data block)
I don't think they share lists. I have been using a LG G2X for the last three years without them detecting it. Even when they did detect a smart phone (used a HTC inspire for a while) I just popped my SIM in my old flip phone called them up, gave them imei from the dumb phone and had the data plan dropped.
Sounds like I just need to go to an AT&T store and try my luck. Think I will stick my SIM in my old phone before I go.
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If u don't want to ask for a new Sim just cut your dumb phone full size down to a micro (see YouTube). Whether they change your plan is a gamble based in on the imei. Since they do not sell the n5 like tmo and sprint then chances are it's not on their list as a smart phone.
RubiconJoey said:
I don't think they share lists. I have been using a LG G2X for the last three years without them detecting it. Even when they did detect a smart phone (used a HTC inspire for a while) I just popped my SIM in my old flip phone called them up, gave them imei from the dumb phone and had the data plan dropped.
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go read this thread. a lot of t-mobile phones are detected... those who aren't are either lucky or didn't get caught in the sweeps
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1446373
Hi, I got weird issue on my hand. I activated my Nexus 5 (Google Play) on Ringplus for a month and then cancelled. After a while I tried activating with them again and I couldn't. Called CS and they told me my Nexus 5 needed to be activated on Sprint because of Sprint's Policy. Can they do that even if the phone was bought from Google instead of Sprint itself?
Call them again because that was the case but is NO LONGER. People cried foul and Sprint unblocked the Nexus 5 but other high end phones, HTC One and such are still blocked from MVNOs.
Sprint can do whatever they want especially since it's a CDMA network. They have full control over which device gets on the network.
I called Sprint's CS and they told me my phone was Blacklisted and I can only use it with them. Is there a way around this? Because that is unfair.
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I called Sprint's CS and they told me my phone was Blacklisted and I can only use it with them. Is there a way around this? Because that is unfair.
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I know this is not the answer you are looking for - but you should just dump Sprint.
I started a thread a while ago about how I had been on Sprint for years, got a Nexus 5, tried a Straight Talk AT&T SIM, and was blown away by how much better the coverage and data was. Also, all of these activation woes go away when you leave Sprint and its MVNOs - you just stick a SIM card in and it works!
You might want to look at the various Tmobile and AT&T MVNOs. If you could state what your needs are (calls and data), I could make a suggestion/recommendation.
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I know this is not the answer you are looking for - but you should just dump Sprint.
I started a thread a while ago about how I had been on Sprint for years, got a Nexus 5, tried a Straight Talk AT&T SIM, and was blown away by how much better the coverage and data was. Also, all of these activation woes go away when you leave Sprint and its MVNOs - you just stick a SIM card in and it works!
You might want to look at the various Tmobile and AT&T MVNOs. If you could state what your needs are (calls and data), I could make a suggestion/recommendation.
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My Bro currently has T-mobile and I might go with him. i found this online: "This puts these newly Blacklisted Devices in what we are calling a “Black Hole” Status when non-Active where Sprint where they will be unusable until manually sent to Sprint’s BYOSD Department to override the errors and manually convert back to Sprint".
I think this is the problem I am currently experiencing with my LG Nexus 5's ESN.
Just received my SIM card from straight talk for the i535 all I did was go to straight talk web site activate the phone using the phone imei number then start phone with SIM card installed> Once SIM card was activated I restarted the phone and had LTE with no need to setup APN settings.
I just shut off the verizon service right before setting up the phone on ST so I do not know if thats has effected anything but hopefully it doesn't.
Also I had to contact Straight Talk using their facebook page to get the SIM card and it was shipped for free.
highspeedfelon said:
Just received my SIM card from straight talk for the i535 all I did was go to straight talk web site activate the phone using the phone imei number then start phone with SIM card installed> Once SIM card was activated I restarted the phone and had LTE with no need to setup APN settings.
I just shut off the verizon service right before setting up the phone on ST so I do not know if thats has effected anything but hopefully it doesn't.
Also I had to contact Straight Talk using their facebook page to get the SIM card and it was shipped for free.
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Good to know, I get my sim card from straight talk tomorrow. I didn't imagine it was that hard to setup. You did the smart thing and went to facebook, like an idiot I called them and it took well over a week for them to send it
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ShapesBlue said:
Good to know, I get my sim card from straight talk tomorrow. I didn't imagine it was that hard to setup. You did the smart thing and went to facebook, like an idiot I called them and it took well over a week for them to send it
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Oh it took them a while to send it to me also. I had even told them to cancel it and thats when I went to Verizon. I was told at one point that the SIM cards should be in stores around December 5th,
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Oh it took them a while to send it to me also. I had even told them to cancel it and thats when I went to Verizon. I was told at one point that the SIM cards should be in stores around December 5th,
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Yea the kit they sell at Walmart doesn't currently include it only the T-Mobile and AT&T sims which we can't use. Mine will Thankfully be here today
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Can you explain what you mean by "shut off Verizon services*?
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A0425A said:
Can you explain what you mean by "shut off Verizon services*?
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What he's saying is he had a VZW phone on VZW and cancelled his service to go with Straight Talk I believe
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What he's saying is he had a VZW phone on VZW and cancelled his service to go with Straight Talk I believe
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That's correct. I am now with straight talk with a VZW S3
All I had to do was get the sim card from straight talk and call them to activate it. It was a pretty simple process
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So you didn't have to hack the phone or anything?? Verizon is CDMA and Straight Talk is GSM, how did that work? Especially without setting up a new APN?
Oh and did you get the AT&T or TMobile sim? I think straight talk still has the option for either.
jayjr1105 said:
So you didn't have to hack the phone or anything?? Verizon is CDMA and Straight Talk is GSM, how did that work? Especially without setting up a new APN?
Oh and did you get the AT&T or TMobile sim? I think straight talk still has the option for either.
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It does but straight talk told me the AT&T and T-Mobile sims won't work for this phone. They sent me a CDMA specific sim card, and cmda phones will indeed work on straight talk, not every single one but most
And no I didn't have to do anything with the phone, didn't have to edit apn settings or anything. I'm still running off the Verizon network
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ShapesBlue said:
It does but straight talk told me the AT&T and T-Mobile sims won't work for this phone. They sent me a CDMA specific sim card, and cmda phones will indeed work on straight talk, not every single one but most
And no I didn't have to do anything with the phone, didn't have to edit apn settings or anything. I'm still running off the Verizon network
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Wait, Straight Talk has Verizon SIM's now??? Meaning Verizon is one of their MVNO's? I always thought it was just TMobile and AT&T and Tracfone leased off Sprint for CDMA based phones.
jayjr1105 said:
Wait, Straight Talk has Verizon SIM's now??? Meaning Verizon is one of their MVNO's? I always thought it was just TMobile and AT&T and Tracfone leased off Sprint for CDMA based phones.
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Tracphone owns straight talk for one. It's a straight talk sim... But they piggy back off all 4 networks. VZW, ATT, TMobile and sprint
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What type of speeds you getting with straight talk on the 4G LTE VZW network? Speedtest?
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What type of speeds you getting with straight talk on the 4G LTE VZW network? Speedtest?
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Are you referring to me?
I was. However I hooked my Old S3 up for a family member. I can confirm that the VZW S3 will get 4G LTE on the Verizon network with the CDMA Sim that comes with the starter pack. Ran a speed test at full signal strength and had an initial burst for ~9-10 mbs and stabilized at ~5mb both up and down. This is way more than the user of the phone will need but also not a bad number.
For comparison sake my personal phone on a VZW unlimited plan still gets 40+ mbs during speed tests in the same location. Appears that ST is speed limited but at 5mbs still more than 99.9% of users will ever need/notice at one time.
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I was. However I hooked my Old S3 up for a family member. I can confirm that the VZW S3 will get 4G LTE on the Verizon network with the CDMA Sim that comes with the starter pack. Ran a speed test at full signal strength and had an initial burst for ~9-10 mbs and stabilized at ~5mb both up and down. This is way more than the user of the phone will need but also not a bad number.
For comparison sake my personal phone on a VZW unlimited plan still gets 40+ mbs during speed tests in the same location. Appears that ST is speed limited but at 5mbs still more than 99.9% of users will ever need/notice at one time.
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Yea I'm not worried about speed as I'm 99% of the time on wifi so I could care less now. The initial starter pack didn't come with the CDMA sim. Card which is a pain but now it does
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Quick question for those that have done this already - I have just ordered the Galaxy S3 I535 from walmart because i'm cheap and it was on special - Would it be wise to at least activate the phone on Verizon and entering the details on ST's site to make sure it will work before getting the sim or just ordering it (they are on special right now for .99c) I'm glad they are doing the CDMA sims because i had read that folks were only getting edge for data using the AT&T sims and was prepared to limit myself to being on the Verizon prepaid plan and just sucking it up...
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Quick question for those that have done this already - I have just ordered the Galaxy S3 I535 from walmart because i'm cheap and it was on special - Would it be wise to at least activate the phone on Verizon and entering the details on ST's site to make sure it will work before getting the sim or just ordering it (they are on special right now for .99c) I'm glad they are doing the CDMA sims because i had read that folks were only getting edge for data using the AT&T sims and was prepared to limit myself to being on the Verizon prepaid plan and just sucking it up...
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If its the prepaid version it may not work, the prepaid version doesn't utilize a sim card where as the contract version does
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Thanks Shapes it's the prepaid but i'll wait til it gets here and check it out
warlordxxx said:
Thanks Shapes it's the prepaid but i'll wait til it gets here and check it out
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Probably a good idea. I'm truly unsure if it will work or not. I have the S3 contract version and it works great on straight talk. Another user informed me the prepaid version doesn't utilize a sim which in most cases at least for VZW means no 4G
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