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New to Inspire? YOU NEED TO READ THIS!

I had the Check Mark under the "H+" icon like a lot of other veteran AT&T users here. I had no data service due to an incorrect APN. I bought the Inspire off-contract at a Corp store & put in my SIM from my Captivate. I called Premier Support and this was what I was told:
"The Inspire uses the 4G network and your IMEI isn't provisioned on our network. We can register your IMEI to use our network but you'll have to select a new data plan. If you choose to enter an APN manually, when our system audits the network, your IMEI will show as a "non-qualifying" device and you'll immediately be placed in the 4G 250MB data plan. I can put in a ticket stating that you request your IMEI be allowed to use our 4G network on an unlimited basis, but there's no guarantee that it will be approved. If it is not approved, you will have the option to remain on the 3G unlimited plan with your 3g-only device or 'upgrade' to a 4G plan with your Inspire. You will be contacted with our decision."
There apparently is no option to use the Inspire solely on the 3G unlimited network. To guarantee that I only use the 3G network, I'll have to go back to a 3G-only device - IE my Captivate.
I will wait to see what they come up with but my fall-back will be to return the Inspire and pay the $35 restocking fee & pursue my options with a class-action lawsuit.
This is going to have me cancelling the 5 lines I have with AT&T and switch to Verizon. Even if I can't get unlimited data with Verizon and it ultimately costs me more, I'd switch just to spite AT&T and deny them of my monthly $289. This is COMPLETE BS on AT&T's part!
EDIT: I forgot to mention that between Sunday and Tuesday morning, my Inspire used over 500MB on AT&T's network with all the Google & HTCSense.com syncronization! This is in ADDITION to the data I transferred over my 802.11n network at home! They have geared these devices to absolutely SUCK data down their pipes with their bloatware. I totally feel an anti-trust/consumer fraud lawsuit in the making!

I would suggest trying to call them back. I switched from a captivate to the Inspire and had the same issues with data. Called their support and told them to keep my unlimited data and 5 minutes later they had me all squared away unlimited 4g data and all, I think you talked to a ****ty rep is all.

Yeah I stayed on the $30 unlimited plan no problem. They told me they switched it to 4G and it would still be the same price and unlimited.

gtg465x said:
Yeah I stayed on the $30 unlimited plan no problem. They told me they switched it to 4G and it would still be the same price and unlimited.
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glad to see your using an inspire GTG

Same here. Bought the phone at Costco. Put my Captivate SIM in and no go. Went to my local corp store and the guy told me I had to change my data plan since the Unlimited plan would not work based on a Memo the store received last Friday.
After I argued a bit I told him to switch me to the 2GB plan. He then noticed in the computer that I could stay on the unlimited plan and be on the 4G network.
I would call back ATT and demand you stay on the unlimited plan that you have been grandfathered into or you will cancel and leave. They don't want to lose a account that spends that much monthly.

I really hope you guys are right. I've been with AT&Greed for over 4 years now. I will try tomorrow at the Corp store where I bought it and update on here tomorrow night.
I want to make sure you all understand I'm not trying to steer anyone away from the Inspire. In fact, I actually forgot how much I liked having an HTC phone (had the 8125, 8525, and Fuze previously). Sense has been the $hit since I loaded the WinMo 6.5 ROMs! I liked the Android experience on my Captivate (minus TouchWiz) but really like what HTC has done with Sense on the Inspire. My quibble isn't with HTC, but with AT&Greed on their data plans.
I'll update tomorrow.

You have to have a "4g" sim card placed into your inspire. There is no reason for them not to let you you keep your unlimeted data. Its a different soc code for the data as well. The idiot Rep who you talked to on the phone is the single reason why att has a bad name. Im actually an att store manager and have had att years before I started with the company. Go back to the store you bought your inspire from and tell them to register your imei to the account and to give you a "4g" sim card. The system we use will make them switch the data plan as well but don't worry... you don't have to give up your unlimited. If you have any questions ill try to stay posted to this thread to help anyone out.
PS. 4g sim cards are cross compatible with 3g phones so if you ever switch back to your old phone you can use the new sim
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This should be noted
Regardless of my outcome with AT&T tomorrow, this is VERY important:
"I forgot to mention that between Sunday and Tuesday morning, my Inspire used over 500MB on AT&T's network with all the Google & HTCSense.com syncronization! This is in ADDITION to the data I transferred over my 802.11n network at home! They have geared these devices to absolutely SUCK data down their pipes with their bloatware."
Even if AT&T "allows" me "unlimited" access to their network, there are obviously programs that use their network regardless of our connection to Wi-Fi networks. Therefore, a user that isn't grandfathered into an unlimited data plan will unwittingly use data on their network even if connected via Wi-Fi. If AT&T is FORCING certain programs to use thier data network, even when connected via Wi-Fi, then it needs to be clear which programs are doing so and give the end user the ability to disable those programs. If they do not, they are guilty of a "bait and switch" scheme that is clearly outlawed by current legislation.

mgarciamma said:
You have to have a "4g" sim card placed into your inspire. There is no reason for them not to let you you keep your unlimeted data. Its a different soc code for the data as well. The idiot Rep who you talked to on the phone is the single reason why att has a bad name. Im actually an att store manager and have had att years before I started with the company. Go back to the store you bought your inspire from and tell them to register your imei to the account and to give you a "4g" sim card. The system we use will make them switch the data plan as well but don't worry... you don't have to give up your unlimited. If you have any questions ill try to stay posted to this thread to help anyone out.
PS. 4g sim cards are cross compatible with 3g phones so if you ever switch back to your old phone you can use the new sim
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Well being as I work for AT&T also, I have to say for a store manager you are not fully up to speed with all this.
Yes you need to have the SOC code for the PDA data plan switched to a 4g code, and yes you can keep unlimited. But you do NOT need a 4g sim card. Those new sims we got in with the new sku are only needed for LTE devices. All the non LTE 4G phones just need a regular 3G sim. The only thing different is the 4G SOC code for the Data plan.
Being as you are ripping the CS rep for mis information, you need to look in the mirror dude cause you're doing the same thing.

chocodough said:
Well being as I work for AT&T also, I have to say for a store manager you are not fully up to speed with all this.
Yes you need to have the SOC code for the PDA data plan switched to a 4g code, and yes you can keep unlimited. But you do NOT need a 4g sim card. Those new sims we got in with the new sku are only needed for LTE devices. All the non LTE 4G phones just need a regular 3G sim. The only thing different is the 4G SOC code for the Data plan.
Being as you are ripping the CS rep for mis information, you need to look in the mirror dude cause you're doing the same thing.
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You would be correct.

I say root, unlock, flash custom Rom which is already possible and stick it to att! I seriously can't complain because ATT has always been good to me, been with them since late 2004.

I had a Google Nexus One and used my upgrade for the Inspire. The ATT employee used my SIM card and just inserted my SIM into the inspire and I was able to keep my old iPhone Unlimited plan with no issue at all.

i upgraded my phone myself at my job. i made sure i had unlimited.

I've had unlimited data for 5 years now. I was able to keep mine with the upgrade to the inspire, but it required a long, long phone call to AT&T CS to keep it. The sales guy couldn't get their PC to let me keep unlimited without making special provisions w/ CS for some reason. Got to keep it, though.

I purchased mine from Best Buy and the CS reps called At&t and took care if every thing for me. I am also using the same sin from my Captivate. They also were doing the same for the guy next to me.
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Well I hate to say, but most CS reps at AT&T are clueless. Not all, there are some that know their stuff, but most are not very good.
Basically here is how it works if you already have the unlimited plan.
When we go to change from say a BB to an iPhone, or iPhone to PDA, or 4G PDA....etc....we go in and remove the current data plan, and just select the other one we need to put on there. If you already have say unlimited data on an iPhone, being as it's already on there, when we go to put on the 4G unlimited, it will list it and we select it no problem. If you don't already have unlimited it will not be a choice for us to select.
It's as simple as that. It's not rocket science. I am really sorry there are people who are dealing with reps who have no idea what they are doing. It's a pretty simple process to get things switched over.

chocodough said:
Well being as I work for AT&T also, I have to say for a store manager you are not fully up to speed with all this.
Yes you need to have the SOC code for the PDA data plan switched to a 4g code, and yes you can keep unlimited. But you do NOT need a 4g sim card. Those new sims we got in with the new sku are only needed for LTE devices. All the non LTE 4G phones just need a regular 3G sim. The only thing different is the 4G SOC code for the Data plan.
Being as you are ripping the CS rep for mis information, you need to look in the mirror dude cause you're doing the same thing.
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Thanks for correcting me..... but try using that 3g sim card when lte rolls around. I retract my previous statement about "needing" a 4g sim card but any att store will put one in for free. And it sounds like someone is a cs Rep?
And far as looking in the mirror... I do it every morning with a big smile! Knowing that att has paid for my house, my two vehicles, and all other necessities, I'm obviously doing something right.
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mgarciamma said:
Thanks for correcting me..... but try using that 3g sim card when lte rolls around. I retract my previous statement about "needing" a 4g sim card but any att store will put one in for free. And it sounds like someone is a cs Rep?
And far as looking in the mirror... I do it every morning with a big smile! Knowing that att has paid for my house, my two vehicles, and all other necessities, I'm obviously doing something right.
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Hehe sorry, I come across too strong sometimes.
No I am not a CS rep. I work in a COR store as well.

my unlimited data plan was removed as well. even after i specifically asked if i was able to keep it, and if not i would not upgrade. ended up spending time on the phone with customer service...and they said they had to put in a case to reinstate the unlimited data plan. i was quoted 9 days before a resolution...wtf???

man, i must have gotten one of the lucky guys in a corp store that really knew his stuff. he had made the captivate->inspire jump as well and fully understood why i was doing it. i kept my same sim that i've had since my iphone 3g and kept the same unlimited data plan. he actually told me that he recommended i keep it rather than switching to the 2gb plan because once i switch from it, there is no going back. he had my inspire up and running in no time at all and i still have my unlimited iphone account grandfathered in.

[Q] Nexus 5 with AT&T GoPhone

i currently have a nexus 4. i walked into a retail att store and asked for a microsim card and they handed one over free of charge. first off, i'd like to clarify if this sim will work in a nexus 5. is there an LTE specific sim that i'll need? or can i just swap from the n4 to the n5?
second, i'm currently using the $60/month gophone plan. i had to spoof an s4 imei with customer service in order to get proper hspa+ speeds. can i just leave everything as is (assuming my sim is good to go for a simple swap) and i'll get LTE speeds? well, not leave quite everything... i assume i'll need to switch from the phone to the pta apn, but other than that, will i be good to go?
i wanna be sure my transition to the n5 goes as smoothly as possible.

You should be good to go.
If they provisioned your current micro SIM for an S4 then you would already have the LTE SOC associated with that SIM.
All you need to do is pop in your SIM once you get the Nexus 5 and enter the right APN and you should be set.
What I'd watch out for though is when they do an IMEI sweep, if AT&T can read it as a Nexus 5 (or a generic smartphone) they will provision your account as such and you'll be put on a 3G data plan (which is the default for a smartphone they don't carry). This will cause you to have to get a new SIM and have customer service provision your account as an S4 again.
Full disclosure, I'm a former AT&T store manager (left a little over a year ago) and I've seen this sorta thing happen before. If you're on go phone, unfortunately you don't have as much leeway as a post paid customer when it comes to both customer service in store or over the phone. Personally, I'd tell them you had an LG G2 (D800) as the model number will be pretty similar, so that can help you get swapped back easier should they screw up your account.
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New GoPhone Account for Nexus 5 ?

So I'm leaving Verizon and want to go with prepaid for my new Nexus. ATT has the best coverage in my area and I like that GoPhone gives you un-throttled LTE speed. I have a brand new ATT sim card that I plan on activating, but I'm unsure about what IMEI to use. I have an old ATT Samsung Captivate that I can use the IMEI from, but if I use that will they setup my account without LTE? I've also heard that ATT does an IMEI scan every now and again and if they detect a device that isn't in their system it gets zapped and wont work any longer. Any truth to this? Maybe AIO is the better choice? Help!

myeyez said:
So I'm leaving Verizon and want to go with prepaid for my new Nexus. ATT has the best coverage in my area and I like that GoPhone gives you un-throttled LTE speed. I have a brand new ATT sim card that I plan on activating, but I'm unsure about what IMEI to use. I have an old ATT Samsung Captivate that I can use the IMEI from, but if I use that will they setup my account without LTE? I've also heard that ATT does an IMEI scan every now and again and if they detect a device that isn't in their system it gets zapped and wont work any longer. Any truth to this? Maybe AIO is the better choice? Help!
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From what I understand, the only thing they use the IMEI for is to determine a phone's capabilities. While using my N4, I went to their store, got an LTE capable phone, wrote down it's IMEI number, and called AT&T and told them that was my phone so they'd put me on an LTE plan.
But since the N5 is LTE ready, why wouldn't you give them the N5's IMEI?

I thought the IMEI had to be in ATT's system for it to work. The Nexus 5 is not officially supported by ATT.

The IMEI is just an identifier. It's mostly used to lock out stolen phones. As long as its not blacklisted you'll be able to use ATT's network. I've used plenty of other carriers phones on ATT and have never had an issue.

theesotericone said:
The IMEI is just an identifier. It's mostly used to lock out stolen phones. As long as its not blacklisted you'll be able to use ATT's network. I've used plenty of other carriers phones on ATT and have never had an issue.
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So I can use the Nexus IMEI even though its not an ATT phone?

That's what I'm planning on doing. lol If you're really that unsure you could always call ATT to verify.

Att might not have the nexus imeis yet. I remember for the nexus 4, I had to give them an s3's info. If you already have LTE on your phone, no reason to change anything with the carrier.
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T-Mobile to Sprint? Activation Question/ Nexus 5

Question: I have a Nexus 5 on T-Mobile's network and would like to switch to Sprint. I know with Sprint you have to get a ICC ID (SIM Card) from Sprint. My question is will Sprint activate my phone on their $60 Unlimited Everything PREPAID plan or ANY plan what so ever? According to articles the Nexus 5 has been dropped from the BYOSD Banned list meaning we can buy the Nexus 5 from the Play Store and activate it on Sprint's Network.
I want to try the Spark Network in my area for at least a month or so. I know the general consensus is that Sprint suck, but I have liked them as a company when I was a customer and want to try this all new Spark Network and compare Speeds.
So how can I switch over? Or is it possible to switch over at all?
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I have a question too, i got a T-Mobile sim in my Nexus 5 under about Phone it shows IMEI
but when i stick a Sprint sim will it show ESN?

If you're thinking Sprint you ought to look at Ting. Same network (yes, Spark) but lower costs.
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Question: I have a Nexus 5 on T-Mobile's network and would like to switch to Sprint. I know with Sprint you have to get a ICC ID (SIM Card) from Sprint. My question is will Sprint activate my phone on their $60 Unlimited Everything PREPAID plan or ANY plan what so ever? According to articles the Nexus 5 has been dropped from the BYOSD Banned list meaning we can buy the Nexus 5 from the Play Store and activate it on Sprint's Network.
I want to try the Spark Network in my area for at least a month or so. I know the general consensus is that Sprint suck, but I have liked them as a company when I was a customer and want to try this all new Spark Network and compare Speeds.
So how can I switch over? Or is it possible to switch over at all?
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Stay away from Sprint. Nothing but problems with them and the Nexus 5. Go with AT&T or see if you can go with their subsidary, AIO Wireless... Seriously, do not go with Sprint, you will be sorry if you do!

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If you're thinking Sprint you ought to look at Ting. Same network (yes, Spark) but lower costs.
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Interesting! I was hoping not to do that but will research them. Thanks
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I would but AIO doesn't have unlimited data from what I'm hearing. Is that correct. Have you experienced AIO?
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dymetrice1 said:
I would but AIO doesn't have unlimited data from what I'm hearing. Is that correct. Have you experienced AIO?
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AIO does have unlimited data
Unlimited Data
Up to 4G LTE speeds with compatible device (speeds reduced when you use up your high-speed allowance)
So for the 55$ Plan the High Speed data is 2GB after 2GB its 2G speeds

gsteelx said:
Stay away from Sprint. Nothing but problems with them and the Nexus 5. Go with AT&T or see if you can go with their subsidary, AIO Wireless... Seriously, do not go with Sprint, you will be sorry if you do!
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Can you link to some of these supposed problems?
I run my Nexus 5 on Ting (which runs on Sprint's network) and I have had zero problems whatsoever.

MasterTec said:
Can you link to some of these supposed problems?
I run my Nexus 5 on Ting (which runs on Sprint's network) and I have had zero problems whatsoever.
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Here is one (of many) doing a Google search.
https://community.sprint.com/baw/message/676757
plus a thread I started... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2570111
If you are having a good experience, thats great, but I still, would tell people to stay away from Sprint. I feel as though they make promises they can't keep.

gsteelx said:
Here is one (of many) doing a Google search.
https://community.sprint.com/baw/message/676757
plus a thread I started... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2570111
If you are having a good experience, thats great, but I still, would tell people to stay away from Sprint. I feel as though they make promises they can't keep.
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OK so you had the unfortunate luck of having a defective SIM card and a tower near your home that was being fixed. After both were corrected you stated that you were very happy but then a couple of weeks later you claim to be tired of sprints BS without giving any other details.
Yeah.. definitely more of an isolated event than a company problem. Are some people with Nexus 5 phones having LTE problems? Yes it sure seems like it. Are some people with other phones having LTE problems? I think it's very safe to say that is probably the case as well.
You have to remember that for every one person on these boards that complain about their service there are probably tens of thousands of others who have had no issues whatsoever. So for you to just come straight out and state such a strong statement "Seriously, do not go with Sprint, you will be sorry if you do" based only on your personal experience, which you didn't even bother to explain at the time of that post, is in my opinion flat out incompetent and naive.

MasterTec said:
OK so you had the unfortunate luck of having a defective SIM card and a tower near your home that was being fixed. After both were corrected you stated that you were very happy but then a couple of weeks later you claim to be tired of sprints BS without giving any other details.
Yeah.. definitely more of an isolated event than a company problem. Are some people with Nexus 5 phones having LTE problems? Yes it sure seems like it. Are some people with other phones having LTE problems? I think it's very safe to say that is probably the case as well.
You have to remember that for every one person on these boards that complain about their service there are probably tens of thousands of others who have had no issues whatsoever. So for you to just come straight out and state such a strong statement "Seriously, do not go with Sprint, you will be sorry if you do" based only on your personal experience, which you didn't even bother to explain at the time of that post, is in my opinion flat out incompetent and naive.
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Buddy, I am not going to argue with you. As I stated (on the OTHER thread you quoted me on) I am entitled in my opinion, and will share it with whomever I feel.
I feel that you being on Ting is a stupid idea, but you probably think its great. You probably think signing a 2 year is stupid, but, I would take that over anything. We can agree to disagree all day long, nothing can change that.
Thats the great thing about opinions my man, we all have them, and thankfully we have the first amendment, and can speak our minds.
If people don't want to listen to me, thats fine, I won't lose any sleep at night. If I helped someone, than awesome!
That is all, nothing more, nothing less.

dymetrice1 said:
Question: I have a Nexus 5 on T-Mobile's network and would like to switch to Sprint. I know with Sprint you have to get a ICC ID (SIM Card) from Sprint. My question is will Sprint activate my phone on their $60 Unlimited Everything PREPAID plan or ANY plan what so ever? According to articles the Nexus 5 has been dropped from the BYOSD Banned list meaning we can buy the Nexus 5 from the Play Store and activate it on Sprint's Network.
I want to try the Spark Network in my area for at least a month or so. I know the general consensus is that Sprint suck, but I have liked them as a company when I was a customer and want to try this all new Spark Network and compare Speeds.
So how can I switch over? Or is it possible to switch over at all?
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Disregarding the completely useless aforementioned posts, the Nexus 5 requires the "spark" update in order to access the Sprint Spark (Clearwire TDD-LTE) network and B26 (LTE 800). Some users have been able to access a few TDD-LTE towers here and there but the vast majority of users have not been able to even with the knowledge that the site is broadcasting B41 LTE that other Spark devices (GS4T / LG G2/ etc) pick up.
In other words you'll only be accessing the PCS LTE network which are in varying stages of progress in all markets which may or may not be loaded / overloaded. So the Nexus 5 is not a device you want to use to test the "Spark" network at least until LG / Google gets the Spark update out sometime in 1Q 2014.

Looking for info/advice on the i535 (flashed to verizon prepaid)

I broke my current phone "optimus zone" and i am looking for a new phone so i decided to get the galaxy s3 well im on verizon prepaid so i need a galaxy s3 that will work on prepaid verizonm and i need it to be rooted so i can use as a hotspot. i did some research and found that the i535 can be flashed to verizon prepaid "I Think" and it can also be rooted.
so i did some looking on ebay and found 3 things
1 i535 verizon unlocked - i looked at what a unlocked phone was and found out it just means it can be used with any compatable service provider. Can this be used with verizon and if so how?
2 i535 verizon - If i got this one can it be flashed to verizon prepaid? Can it get 4g on prepaid?
3 i710 sprint - i already ordered a sprint flashed to verizon prepaid one and found out u needed add on apps to use the sms and it cant get 4g so im woundering , if the' i535 verizon would be a better choice. i would have to learn to flash but thats no big deal.. i havent recieved the one i ordered yet but when i do i think im going to return it...
I have looked all over and can not figure out if the verizon i535 will get 4g after its flashed to verizon prepaid and i havent found out 100% that it can be flashed to verizon prepaid. Im posative it can be rooted i think lol. Or can i buy a unlocked i535 and use it on verizon prepaid somehow, easier than learning to flash???

Just sign up with Page Plus. They've been offering Verizon 4G LTE for a month now
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I can't get survice with anyone but verizon i dout page will work in my area. And I'm not really really consurned about 4g i just hate to have a sprint phone that only gets 3g if the same phone on another carrier can get 4g... but i just need to know yes pr no can the i535 be flashed to prepaid verizon?? And if it can it be used on 4g or only 3g like the sprint one after flash... i live in a rural area and i bairley get signal as it is... i hear that this page plus provider uses verizon towers.. i don't understand does that mean it will get the exact same signal as verizon prepaid cuz that's thr ONLY provider i can use.. pleas let me knoq if the i535 can be flashed to prepaid verizon and can it get 4g yes or no please let me know I'm without a phone and really need to know what to do... i feel like i made a mistake buying the sprint one...
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If they're truly Verizon towers I'd say page plus should work fine. I was told however by a guy with a local shop (I live in the boonies), that because we have so many towers around here that are owned by a regional carrier appalacian wireless that have an agreement with Big Red, that page plus would Roam more whereas Selectel wouldn't. Now, I don't know if the guy was telling the truth or not. I do know from Selectel's website that if you sign someone up to selectel and that person continues to use Selectel and re-ups through the website or whereever, the original person who signed you up gets a cut of the profits. Page Plus may not offer such a deal, so I don't actually know 100% either way. I'm looking to find something cheaper than Big Red myself. I have two phones with them at the moment with a bill of 105.00 or 107.00 but with only 250Mb of data and 1GB free for a year. I can get by with little to no data, I really don't use much, but I'd like to have it available should I need to go out of town and use the internet or use navigation which I suspect would drink the data. I know you can pre download maps with many apps these days though.
Let me know what you find out. I have the Verizon sch-i535 sgs3 with a broken power button but otherwise it's a good phone. Still does what I need it to, and development hasn't stopped yet, it's still going pretty strong on the aosp side..
Edit: I recently had my phone flashed to selectel wireless. If you have a cdma phone you can do the activation from their website. However, I think it must be a phone without a sim such as a DX or DX2. a cdma only phone. I had to take my s3 to a local selectel dealer who did the flash and got me on selectel. I went with selectel because it will roam on the regional towers in my area albiet voice and texting only not data. So, when roaming I won't have data. Pageplus from what I've read on both their site and another forum will roam but they will charge you quite a bit to do so. If you don't have the issue of roaming like I do and are near verizon towers all the time, I'd probably go with another MVNO.
I tried tracfone BYOP with my DX2 and spent a small fortune in service and gas going from here to there trying to get it activated. First they said to go to a town about 25min away from home. I did this and no dice. I called them twice using a wifi app (hangouts) and spent about 4 hours in this town trying to get the activation to work to no avail. I called again from home and was told to go to another town about an hour away. The next day I did just that. They had me dial *22891 *22801 this time activation went smooth and I was able to use data and make and receive calls perfectly. If I had known this in the closer town it would have worked there but the rep never told me that. To top things off when I got home I had no service at all. Zip None. When I called I was told that a BYOP android phone would not roam on the regional towers although a feature phone would. I was also told incorrectly I believe that if I had purchased an android tracfone from a local store that it would roam. This too from what I've read is incorrect. No android tracfone will roam on regional towers, they will only work on genuine verizon towers. I was hoping to purchase the moto e from ebay with a 400min card which tripled to 1200 min for 99 bucks. This would have been a great deal since the 400 min card alone is around 90. I never did find out the entire truth about roaming with tracfone android phones. But from what I read on the other forum and another site dedicated to tracfones, that they would not roam period. What a freaking ripoff. The same goes for a lot of other MVNO's they simply won't roam. Even Verizon perpaid phones won't work on any towers other than verizon. Again, this came from someone who supposedly had experience with this.
The bottom line is beware of MVNO's if you require roaming. Straight talk may or may not work I do not know if they roam or not. But either way selectel was cheaper. Granted it sucks that I can't get data when roaming but at least I can make and receive calls and texts. At least SMS. I haven't tried MMS and I'm guessing it won't work due to it requiring data. Remember your results may vary and I'd certainly like to hear from others who use a MVNO that is Verizon based. Or even MVNO that is ATT based ATT's coverage map says there's coverage in my area, and i know there is across the stateline where I live. A friend used to have an ATT phone a few years back and he had zero service when he crossed the line by about a half a mile, probably out of range of the ATT tower. He now has NET10 using ATT and has the same coverage.
Good luck and keep me posted please on this.
Thanks

I don't wunt page plus i need to be able to use on verizons prepayed network... can the i535 be flashed to prepayed verizon.. or is there some way to use a verizon sim to get prepayed please let me know thank you
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