I have a Captivate running Cognition V2.2.Beta1. Using either usb tether or wireless tether, I get pings of 600+ and slow upload/download speeds.
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Anyone else getting better results? Anyone know how to optimize/fix the issue?
it's because you're pinging and speed testing on a server 400 miles away from where your phone accesses the internet. where you personally are located is not necessarily where your phone connects to the internet. that speedtest app using your location to suggest "nearby" servers to test on instead of using your ip address. testing on servers closest to where your ip address routes to/from will get you much better results.
edit: for instance, I'm currently in central new jersey, but the speedtest app suggests a server 220 miles away in virginia because I disabled the location services (gps and wireless networks) and it is now using my ip address to suggest the closest servers.
slifer315 said:
it's because you're pinging and speed testing on a server 400 miles away from where your phone accesses the internet. where you personally are located is not necessarily where your phone connects to the internet. that speedtest app using your location to suggest "nearby" servers to test on instead of using your ip address. testing on servers closest to where your ip address routes to/from will get you much better results.
edit: for instance, I'm currently in central new jersey, but the speedtest app suggests a server 220 miles away in virginia because I disabled the location services (gps and wireless networks) and it is now using my ip address to suggest the closest servers.
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Actually I manually selected the server in San Diego as that is where I connecting from.
What I am really trying to do is get this to work with a good enough ping to play Aion an MMORPG when traveling and in a hotel room.
what are your results when you pick the recommended server?
San Fran:
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you should try a rom with HSUPA support such as assonance, perception, axura, or even the latest cognition now has HSUPA support. you'll get higher upload speeds and therefore a lower ping. then maybe you'll be able to play in very low populated areas because too many other players or monsters would flood your bandwidth with data and therefore cause you to lag out.
Im thinking about it. You said the voice quality goes down with one of those roms however?
I also thinking the upgrade process from 2.2b1 is going to be ugly/hard to do since with this rom it doesn't support clockwork.
call quality used to be bad, but the jk3 modem included in most of them is crystal clear. just find an update.zip from somewhere on this forum that contains clockworkmod recovery, put it on your sd card, odin one click back to stock, do not master clear, reboot to recovery, reinstall packages twice to install clockwordmod recovery, data wipe / factory reset in recovery, and finally flash your rom of choice. as long as you don't change that update.zip, which you shouldn't ever need to, you can use this method to flash any rom in the future.
slifer315 said:
it's because you're pinging and speed testing on a server 400 miles away from where your phone accesses the internet. where you personally are located is not necessarily where your phone connects to the internet. that speedtest app using your location to suggest "nearby" servers to test on instead of using your ip address. testing on servers closest to where your ip address routes to/from will get you much better results.
edit: for instance, I'm currently in central new jersey, but the speedtest app suggests a server 220 miles away in virginia because I disabled the location services (gps and wireless networks) and it is now using my ip address to suggest the closest servers.
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Where you are physically located has nothing to do with it (or not much in picking a server). Your phone gets on the cellular network near your house. Its data transits AT&Ts servers and hits the Internet wherever it exits the AT&T data centers - usually Dallas, TX. Best results are when SpeedTest tells you as that server is closest to the AT&T Proxy server that is putting you online.
Cell Phone networks were not built with Latency or ping times in mind, so tethering will give mediocre performance. Aircards tend to do better as carriers and prioritize traffic for PCs over phones - also depending on how you are tethered, there may even be one less hop.
alphadog00 said:
Where you are physically located has nothing to do with it (or not much in picking a server). Your phone gets on the cellular network near your house. Its data transits AT&Ts servers and hits the Internet wherever it exits the AT&T data centers - usually Dallas, TX. Best results are when SpeedTest tells you as that server is closest to the AT&T Proxy server that is putting you online.
Cell Phone networks were not built with Latency or ping times in mind, so tethering will give mediocre performance. Aircards tend to do better as carriers and prioritize traffic for PCs over phones - also depending on how you are tethered, there may even be one less hop.
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that was exactly my point.
slifer315 said:
that was exactly my point.
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Yes, but picking your IP address should give you the same physical location as the speedtest.net servers - that is how they locate you - IP geo-location. Your IP address is the last hop Speedtest sees - they are trying to ping you. If you pick your physical location then the speedtest has to cross the internet to your IP address then ride the carrier network back to your physical location.
Picking your physical address should make ping times and speedtest times longer.
I second using a HSUPA rom. I've been on perception for the last 2 weeks using it to tether my pc for some Black Ops Multiplayer. On the cognition rom i would regularly ping about 300+ with 1.5mb down/1up. Now with perception 7 i am pinging under <100 with 3.5mb down/ 1.5up. Its all in the modem the rom is using.
I am learning to write different types of apps and thought I'd give back to XDA. This just starts the 2G/3G menu hidden within the Evo. Only Sense ROMs. Also works on the Incredible. I hope people find it useful.
For 2G: Open-Mode of Operation-1x Only(2G).
For 3G: Open-Mode of Operation-Hybrid.(If you don't switch back to Hybrid you will not receive texts. So don't use EVDO only.)
I'd imagine this saves battery.
As far as I know, a direct switch isn't possible. But I may be mistaken. I'll continue to toy with this later.
-Ken
Isn't this the same or similar to just leaving mobile data off?
Curious...
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a senile fungus said:
Isn't this the same or similar to just leaving mobile data off?
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No, this would kill 3G coverage but still allow 2G coverage. You would still have data, it would just be significantly slower in kb/s.
notasimpleway said:
I'd image this saves battery.
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I'd imagine it doesn't... and I'd imagine it actually uses more battery life. Your phone's data needs are what they are (unless you start shutting down apps that use data), but now you are using more CPU cycles to send, receive, and process that data.
For example, let's assume:
Your phone uses 1MB of data each hour for general background syncing (contacts/rss/facebook/etc.)
3G is 800 kb/s
2G is 100 kb/s (I really don't care enough to track down the actual speeds... just bear with me)
1mb = 1000kb (That's not quite accurate but good enough for now)
At 3G speeds your phone's processor wakes up, idles for 1.25 seconds while waiting for the data to download, processes the data, then goes back to sleep.
At 2G speeds your phone's processor wakes up, idles for 10.0 seconds while waiting for the data to download, processes the data, then goes back to sleep.
You can see how this becomes a big problem if you're using more than 1MB of data each hour.
notasimpleway said:
I am learning to write different types of apps and thought I'd give back to XDA. This just starts the 2G/3G menu hidden within the Evo. Only Sense ROMs. Also works on the Incredible. I hope people find it useful.
For 2G: Open-Mode of Operation-1x Only(2G).
For 3G: Open-Mode of Operation-Hybrid.(If you don't switch back to Hybrid you will not receive texts. So don't use EVDO only.)
I'd image this saves battery.
As far as I know, a direct switch isn't possible. But I may be mistaken. I'll continue to toy with this later.
-Ken
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Thanks ken!
Im always down to test new things
How does this differ from what you get when you hold down the power button and then disable mobile data?
oh yes, this is nice when you want to tether your EVDO signal without being interrupted by phone calls or text messages by selecting EVDO Only. yes! thanks!
btw, i used to have a Palm Pre and the dialer code was ##3836# but it never worked on the HTC EVO 4G.
Noxious Ninja said:
How does this differ from what you get when you hold down the power button and then disable mobile data?
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simple. this does not disable data. your phone connects to two different radio signals, one providing voice, messaging and 1xRTT data, and the other one is for EVDO data only. this gives you the option to select whether the phone uses either the 1xRTT only, EVDO only, or Hybrid (as it is by default).
the main advantage is the ability to tether uninterrupted by phone calls (which disconnects the phone from the mobile Internet on incoming/outgoing calls) or text messages (when you receive text messages, the Internet, either 2G or 3G, stalls for a few seconds and could break downloads) by selecting the EVDO only option.
a senile fungus said:
Isn't this the same or similar to just leaving mobile data off?
Curious...
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no. read my previous quote.
d0cx said:
simple. this does not disable data. your phone connects to two different radio signals, one providing voice, messaging and 1xRTT data, and the other one is for EVDO data only. this gives you the option to select whether the phone uses either the 1xRTT only, EVDO only, or Hybrid (as it is by default).
the main advantage is the ability to tether uninterrupted by phone calls (which disconnects the phone from the mobile Internet on incoming/outgoing calls) or text messages (when you receive text messages, the Internet, either 2G or 3G, stalls for a few seconds and could break downloads) by selecting the EVDO only option.
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+1+1 brotha i like the way u think lol
Great minds think alike
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d0cx said:
simple. this does not disable data. your phone connects to two different radio signals, one providing voice, messaging and 1xRTT data, and the other one is for EVDO data only. this gives you the option to select whether the phone uses either the 1xRTT only, EVDO only, or Hybrid (as it is by default).
the main advantage is the ability to tether uninterrupted by phone calls (which disconnects the phone from the mobile Internet on incoming/outgoing calls) or text messages (when you receive text messages, the Internet, either 2G or 3G, stalls for a few seconds and could break downloads) by selecting the EVDO only option.
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d0cx, there's another way to tether uninterrupted.
Menu-Settings-Call-DDTM Mode.
This will send all calls to VM if there is data being transferred.
I use it when I don't want to be interrupted. A side-effect is no texts being received though.
notasimpleway said:
d0cx, there's another way to tether uninterrupted.
Menu-Settings-Call-DDTM Mode.
This will send all calls to VM if there is data being transferred.
I use it when I don't want to be interrupted. A side-effect is no texts being received though.
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i used that too as well. but as far as i could recall, i could still receive texts with the DDTM Mode.
skylar.sutton said:
No, this would kill 3G coverage but still allow 2G coverage. You would still have data, it would just be significantly slower in kb/s.
I'd imagine it doesn't... and I'd imagine it actually uses more battery life. Your phone's data needs are what they are (unless you start shutting down apps that use data), but now you are using more CPU cycles to send, receive, and process that data.
For example, let's assume:
Your phone uses 1MB of data each hour for general background syncing (contacts/rss/facebook/etc.)
3G is 800 kb/s
2G is 100 kb/s (I really don't care enough to track down the actual speeds... just bear with me)
1mb = 1000kb (That's not quite accurate but good enough for now)
At 3G speeds your phone's processor wakes up, idles for 1.25 seconds while waiting for the data to download, processes the data, then goes back to sleep.
At 2G speeds your phone's processor wakes up, idles for 10.0 seconds while waiting for the data to download, processes the data, then goes back to sleep.
You can see how this becomes a big problem if you're using more than 1MB of data each hour.
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But aren't you just thinking of data transfer time? You aren't thinking about how using a 2G network uses a lot less juice than the 3G network over a longer period. I know on GSM networks using a 2G connection will save a lot of battery. Yes, it will take more time to sync while it is in your pocket, but not enough to matter I would think. If the phone is syncing 1mb files all the time, something might be wrong. I wouldn't sit around with it on 2G while trying to download a MP3 or a stream video. It should mainly be syncing emails/RSS feeds, which are small files. Well, I say small, but some of you may have 100 feeds.
I guess battery consumption using a 2G network is very much debatable unless someone wants to run some tests. Even then, it is how the user uses his phone.
d0cx said:
i used that too as well. but as far as i could recall, i could still receive texts with the DDTM Mode.
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Maybe no one likes me and never sends me texts while I'm using it. I was using DDTM mode last week and after a couple of hours I realized I had not gotten one text the whole time... I sent myself one and didn't get it till I turned off DDTM mode. So, that's all I'm basing that off of. It may just have been that day, ya know?
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You aren't thinking about how using a 2G network uses a lot less juice than the 3G network over a longer period. I know on GSM networks using a 2G connection will save a lot of battery.
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CDMA is a totally different beast than GSM. 1xRTT actually uses more raw power per bit than EV-DO.
On GSM, Edge/GPRS will only save more battery than 3G over a long period if you're downloading small amounts of data like push notifications, light email and using IM. Unfortunately, doing the same thing on 1xRTT would use more battery.
zeuzinn said:
CDMA is a totally different beast than GSM. 1xRTT actually uses more raw power per bit than EV-DO.
On GSM, Edge/GPRS will only save more battery than 3G over a long period if you're downloading small amounts of data like push notifications, light email and using IM. Unfortunately, doing the same thing on 1xRTT would use more battery.
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I was afraid they would be different. Can someone tell me what are the benefits of CDMA again? ;P
Sent from my iPhone with the bigger Gee Bees.
Well, hopefully someone can get use of this activity. If only for the EVDO only mode.
Sent from my iPhone with the bigger Gee Bees.
still use it. works perfectly. no more interrupted/stalled downloads due to my friends messing up my internet. haha.
Ok so the situation:
I bought my xperia s on contract of 12 months (MTV nexxt) which allows me to have 500MB of data with unlimited speed (actually it's like 400 kB/s or around 3 mb/s) but after that the DL/UL speed was supposed to drop down drastically but i was allowed unlimited internet with low speed. I'm over 500MB and when i checked the "slowed down" speed, it was like 15kB/s..i was like @#!*&
So my question:
By searching over the internet i found out that if i use proxy to use internet (youtube, google etc), the ISP won't be able to check my internet data used (am i wrong?)
Is it possible for me to fool the ISP from checking the amount of data i've used because in the contract it says 500MB but i was at like 800MB when my data speeds were slowed down.
When I reboot my phone I have an lte connection within a few seconds. When I set my phone to 2g though and then enable lte it takes multiple minutes to connect, why is that?
It honestly depends on the LTE towers near you're area
That's what I mean: it doesn't. I didn't even move yet the time to connect differs by more than a minute between rebooting and switching from 2g to 4g.
Try setting the APN "Bearer" to LTE. This sped it up for me.