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This is an updated thread for CM7 for the Inspire 4G.
The original thread by jznomoney was just getting out of date. But, there is a lot of information in its pages
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If you are not currently using CM7, do a nandroid of your current setup in case you do not like it.
Installation:
http://goo.gl/JJ4In (Detailed instructions for if you have never flashed before)
If you've flashed a rom before, read on.
If this isn't an upgrade from cm7 than you must wipe data/cache first
Go here to get the nightly:
http://mirror.teamdouche.net/?device=ace
Gapps: (They package them separately to due to licensing restrictions)
http://goo.gl/r1VoW
Changelog:
http://cm-nightlies.appspot.com/?device=ace
http://twitter.com/cmsrc
Known Bugs:
After first boot must restart to make wifi work.(i think you have to turn WIFI on first or it dosnt work, idk though) otherwise you'll be stuck in a crash loop. (to get out of the loop just quickly do a restart before it crashes again.)
BATTERY DRAIN!!!
if you actually like to have good battery life then you might want to invest yourself in one of these threads:
http://goo.gl/GrUlx (hrkfdn)
http://goo.gl/NyOQH (Mad-Murdock)
and im pretty sure Mad is now using hrkfdn's fix. so i dont think it matters which one you use. hrkfdn just uses a different kernal with overclocking. (i think, correct me if im wrong)
Radios:
After reading about im not sure if there is a right or wrong radio. but here are ones that seems to work:
12.39.60.19_26.06.04.06_M (my current radio)
12.41.60.19_26.06.04.14_M
Thanks goes to everyone who has been working on getting cm7 working right on the Inspire:
kali- Desire HD Maintainer
hrkfdn(awesome kernal/battery drain fix(WIP))
Mad-Murdock(Battery Drain fix(WIP))
Bumbl-Bee
TurboniumX (Correct Sound Fix)
attn1 Original Hack Kit
Neolobster for hosting the Hack Kit
anyone else I forgot

De'javu?
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symonc said:
De'javu?
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lol yea a little. but i was sorta tired of the same questions being asked on the other. we all know people arnt gonna read an entire thread. they want all the info in the first post. so i decided ill try and keep it updated with info to make it more friendly.

isaacfank said:
lol yea a little. but i was sorta tired of the same questions being asked on the other. we all know people arnt gonna read an entire thread. they want all the info in the first post. so i decided ill try and keep it updated with info to make it more friendly.
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Isaac,
thanks for stepping in to clean it up, maybe you can insert the tidbit about the recommended radio, it seems like that is one of the more frequently asked questions because a lot of people don't understand why certain things don't work when its all related to the radio.. etc etc. just a suggestion.

alvinswim said:
Isaac,
thanks for stepping in to clean it up, maybe you can insert the tidbit about the recommended radio, it seems like that is one of the more frequently asked questions because a lot of people don't understand why certain things don't work when its all related to the radio.. etc etc. just a suggestion.
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to be honest, i didnt know there was a recommended radio. seems like everyone says different.
but just to stop the questions, which one should i put?

isaacfank said:
to be honest, i didnt know there was a recommended radio. seems like everyone says different.
but just to stop the questions, which one should i put?
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LOL, thats true.. I guess I was just reading the Desire HD thread for CM7 and they recommended a certain older radio. but you're right we've all see multiple reports of them working. maybe put a list? like I am using the one in my signature, that seems to be fine, and I'm sure you're using a different one too..

Thanks for getting this more organized. One question I haven't been able to find a satisfactory answer to is the following:
Do the nightlies have the battery drain fix already? If so, which builds? If not, please update the first post when they do.
Thanks!
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I've tried a few different radios (stock, Telus, and I think Orange?) and all three have been great. Granted, I am in a well-covered area where reception is rarely an issue. The radios seem to effect my reception far less than they did with my Samsung Captivate.

isaacfank said:
lol yea a little. but i was sorta tired of the same questions being asked on the other. we all know people arnt gonna read an entire thread. they want all the info in the first post. so i decided ill try and keep it updated with info to make it more friendly.
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Call me old fashioned, but I've always found the benefit of a bigger thread contains a lot more answers and possible solutions.
"Search This Thread" is insanely powerful.
Maybe a thread on "How to find an answer to your issue before you become the 83rd person to ask THAT question" would be beneficial.
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symonc said:
Call me old fashioned, but I've always found the benefit of a bigger thread contains a lot more answers and possible solutions.
"Search This Thread" is insanely powerful.
Maybe a thread on "How to find an answer to your issue before you become the 83rd person to ask THAT question" would be beneficial.
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they have that. problem is, people need a post explaining how to use that. then they need a post to explain when to use it. then they need a post to remind them to read the for-mentioned posts.
we all cant act like we've never done it. we were all noobs at one time.lol

3GOD said:
Thanks for getting this more organized. One question I haven't been able to find a satisfactory answer to is the following:
Do the nightlies have the battery drain fix already? If so, which builds? If not, please update the first post when they do.
Thanks!
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it has not been implemented yet. but last i heard they are dang near close to a final fix. we'll find out tomorrow im guessing.

symonc said:
Call me old fashioned, but I've always found the benefit of a bigger thread contains a lot more answers and possible solutions.
"Search This Thread" is insanely powerful.
Maybe a thread on "How to find an answer to your issue before you become the 83rd person to ask THAT question" would be beneficial.
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Although I personally believe a new thread was needed, symonc has a point. Isaac, perhaps you should provide a link to the old thread and just state it is for reference purposes at this point? You can remove it within a few weeks, as the information will be long obselete; but for right now it may help .

RC2 had an issue where every time you rebooted, your SD card would be nuked. Has that been fixed?
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TheBassman369 said:
RC2 had an issue where every time you rebooted, your SD card would be nuked. Has that been fixed?
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Well mine is still all fine and stuff, but it was fine also with rc2 restarts, so idk what it'll do to you.

good copy and paste from my thread. You could have at least mentioned my name.

Billabong81 said:
Although I personally believe a new thread was needed, symonc has a point. Isaac, perhaps you should provide a link to the old thread and just state it is for reference purposes at this point? You can remove it within a few weeks, as the information will be long obselete; but for right now it may help .
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Cyanogenmod is a product of cyanogen and teamdouche, who are active on XDA developers forums. It's up to teamdouche, and specifically the device maintainers to decide when it's time to clean up their own threads, and not some random person from the forums. Because the OP has no special access or insight, threads like these are where a great deal of disinformation comes from.

Well I linked to your post. But now your name is in there too.
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attn1 said:
Cyanogenmod is a product of cyanogen and teamdouche, who are active on XDA developers forums. It's up to teamdouche, and specifically the device maintainers to decide when it's time to clean up their own threads, and not some random person from the forums. Because the OP has no special access or insight, threads like these are where a great deal of disinformation comes from.
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And my disinformation is what? Ill gladly change anything. I'm just trying to help the community that wants to run and test cm7.
I said in the last post of the last one. If they want to update the other one then by all means do that and delete this one. But until then I'm going to maintain this thread to help and inform.
I'm not out to get anyone or anything. Its just that this is a relatively new device on the market and has new users all the time.
Just informing my fellow testers.
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Not flaming but you guys should've given the op of the other thread a heads up. He does work closely with CM and has insight as attn1 said. He's one of the reasons it was ported over from the desire hd section.
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I did. I pmed him yesterday while he was online. Also he did have 2 weeks to update. He shouldn't need our request to do it.
Now can we get back to actually taking about cm7
I'm on 22 and I didn't see the wifi crash loop. Can anyone confirm?
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Development of EC05 Based Roms...

Ok it looks as if Sprint will release a new Fryo based rom on Monday March 21, 2011.
Sprint will include Sprint ID which will be great as it will offer a uniform user interface. When will the devs get together and offer Sprint ID and or a XDA uniform ID type of user interface until the Google Android 3.x for phones come out when Google will ban custom interfaces.
Also when it comes to developing the EC05 roms we need to include all the good google apps like voice, search, talk, google googles, reader, and some others.
Also lets move from the ext4 no journaling to enabling ext4 journaling as it will get rid of data corruption.
Also lets have apps to sd card enabled by default.
Also lets have the battery pop on by default.

dzuchowski said:
Ok it looks as if Sprint will release a new Fryo based rom on Monday March 21, 2011.
Sprint will include Sprint ID which will be great as it will offer a uniform user interface. When will the devs get together and offer Sprint ID and or a XDA uniform ID type of user interface until the Google Android 3.x for phones come out when Google will ban custom interfaces.
Also when it comes to developing the EC05 roms we need to include all the good google apps like voice, search, talk, google googles, reader, and some others.
Also lets move from the ext4 no journaling to enabling ext4 journaling as it will get rid of data corruption.
Also lets have apps to sd card enabled by default.
Also lets have the battery pop on by default.
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Not to be a douche but are you developing something? An I think they already moved a post you put about the same thing.
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So let me get this straight... you seem to think that all devs should make ROMs with what you want? Smh.

We need to end data corrruption on new roms and rfs should be on by default, ext4 with jourlising on by default we need to make sure that people know the risk of disabling it like reverting back to ext2
I will talk to dameon today
Say NO to ext2 like behavior in the kernel
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This is the wrong section dude I think you've been told already
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063_XOBX said:
So let me get this straight... you seem to think that all devs should make ROMs with what you want? Smh.
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what i am saying is that if you are talking about what should be in a rom (developing) then it belongs under developing... if you are talking about transflash cards and the best class of transflash cards then it belongs under q&a. it's not hard to under stand. So what is so hard to understand folks? Are people really this insane?

dzuchowski said:
what i am saying is that if you are talking about what should be in a rom (developing) then it belongs under developing... if you are talking about transflash cards and the best class of transflash cards then it belongs under q&a. it's not hard to under stand. So what is so hard to understand folks? Are people really this insane?
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No it doesn't
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12238201&postcount=12

Estewa_619 said:
No it doesn't
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ok well you can lead a horse to water, but you.....
well what can i say if you cant understand what i am saying then you dont deserve such a flagship phone and should be using a feature phone....
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dzuchowski said:
what i am saying is that if you are talking about what should be in a rom (developing) then it belongs under developing... if you are talking about transflash cards and the best class of transflash cards then it belongs under q&a. it's not hard to under stand. So what is so hard to understand folks? Are people really this insane?
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You still have it wrong. Just because you talk about development does not mean this is the right section. Only if you are actually developing something does it in this section. There is a reason they moved your last post.
Another thing, you should learn what Sprint ID is. It is not going to give you a uniform user interface. Our phones will still have touchwiz and sprint ID just gives you an easy way to download groups of apps and wallpapers that are of interest to you. It really has very little to do with the user interface.
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This is the subforum for DEVELOPERS. But you're a moron so I expect to see plenty more threads in here from you because of this.

dzuchowski said:
Ok it looks as if Sprint will release a new Fryo based rom on Monday March 21, 2011.
Sprint will include Sprint ID which will be great as it will offer a uniform user interface. When will the devs get together and offer Sprint ID and or a XDA uniform ID type of user interface until the Google Android 3.x for phones come out when Google will ban custom interfaces.
Also when it comes to developing the EC05 roms we need to include all the good google apps like voice, search, talk, google googles, reader, and some others.
Also lets move from the ext4 no journaling to enabling ext4 journaling as it will get rid of data corruption.
Also lets have apps to sd card enabled by default.
Also lets have the battery pop on by default.
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Google did not "ban" custom interfaces for honeycomb.
Also let's have posts about things you want other people to do for you for free in the general section.
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dzuchowski said:
ok well you can lead a horse to water, but you.....
well what can i say if you cant understand what i am saying then you dont deserve such a flagship phone and should be using a feature phone....
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You're an idoit that's why they closed your other thread of this. why don't u get THE POINT if your not developing it doesn't belong it the dev section dumb ass
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om3ga1582 said:
You still have it wrong. Just because you talk about development does not mean this is the right section. Only if you are actually developing something does it in this section. There is a reason they moved your last post.
Another thing, you should learn what Sprint ID is. It is not going to give you a uniform user interface. Our phones will still have touchwiz and sprint ID just gives you an easy way to download groups of apps and wallpapers that are of interest to you. It really has very little to do with the user interface.
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if you are so smart why is not a development q&a section named Development Q&A?

dzuchowski said:
if you are so smart why is not a development q&a section named Development Q&A?
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On that same page - it seems like we need a section called "If you're dumb as a brick, post here..."
Mods, please close this thread.

dzuchowski said:
if you are so smart why is not a development q&a section named Development Q&A?
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Uh, q&a covers all q&a. Development, themes, flashing, etc.
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Oh God the flames have already been lit... this wont have a good ending.
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Relax folks. This thread will either be closed for disrespectful language or moved to general very soon.

dzuchowski said:
if you are so smart why is not a development q&a section named Development Q&A?
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I knew you were an idiot after you're whole "Sprint is cheeping the Evo" thing but this is a whole new level of idiocy, I tip my hat to you sir. Now go kill yourself, it will be a much needed dose of chlorine in the gene pool.

Tread closed and infractions given. Next is banning.

Google NOW: When we will get these applications..??

What is Google Now?
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There’s some confusion out there in the Android world. Google Now is not Android’s “Siri killer”, that’s Voice Search (which you can get to and use from within Google Now). Google Now is much, much more than an application that listens to queries and spits out answers. I’m not even sure we can call Google Now a virtual assistant either. Google Now is about automating your life and in return, making your life easier. Google Now does that by providing a vast amount of information, pertinent to you, at your fingertips. There’s just one catch though. Those of your that often go full tin foil hat mode really won’t be able to fully enjoy Google Now to its’ full potential. So take off your head gear and let’s get started.
[Google Now] tells you today’s weather before you start your day, how much traffic to expect before you leave for work, when the next train will arrive as you’re standing on the platform, or your favorite team’s score while they’re playing. And the best part? All of this happens automatically. Cards appear throughout the day at the moment you need them.

these stuff belongs to apps section not general.

xlm13x said:
these stuff belongs to apps section not general.
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buddy, this application doesn't applicable in our device. I put this for General Review. so chill..

kataria.vikesh said:
buddy, this application doesn't applicable in our device. I put this for General Review. so chill..
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whatever, it will suit better there in app section because after all its about an app not about galaxy r's general talk. I-) btw i dnt think saying anything here makes any sense, u guys wont improve.

xlm13x said:
whatever, it will suit better there in app section because after all its about an app not about galaxy r's general talk. I-) btw i dnt think saying anything here makes any sense, u guys wont improve.
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will you please elobrate above quoted line..??

Guys in our sub forum incidents of flaming have been as rare as Apple iDevices running on Android.
Let's keep it that way. If anyone feels it's in the wrong section then kindly use the report button & let the MODs decide where it needs to be.
Thanks & Cool Down.

'cooleagle' said:
Guys in our sub forum incidents of flaming have been as rare as Apple iDevices running on Android.
Let's keep it that way. If anyone feels it's in the wrong section then kindly use the report button & let the MODs decide where it needs to be.
Thanks & Cool Down.
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thanks buddy, as i have seen few more threads are here which must be thrown in diff section (in which they are belong to). Let MODs decide which thread mst be in which section.:highfive:

we can make the mod's work easy by not making such mistakes repeatedly... i've seen many times that in order to post the newest stuff/news at the latest even before the fellow members some OPs forget to do the proper research about the article/news they are going to post...
Let our forum be less crowded and have the meaningful/relevant threads only...
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these fancy stuff (Google now...etc) won't work practically in india as it is supposed to...

ofabhishek said:
we can make the mod's work easy by not making such mistakes repeatedly... i've seen many times that in order to post the newest stuff/news at the latest even before the fellow members some OPs forget to do the proper research about the article/news they are going to post...
Let our forum be less crowded and have the meaningful/relevant threads only...
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these fancy stuff (Google now...etc) won't work practically in india as it is supposed to...
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EXACTLY.
our mod Red5 is handling not only SGR forum but other forum also and because of it he cant look after our forum whole day and clean mess from here, we already have alot mess in our forum and making such threads is increasing that mess. its our responsibility to take care of our forum and help it to stay neat, clean so that we can easily find what we need.
and FYI XDA havent made this forum as the other S2, OneX, S3 forums are made but after making a lot of requests XDA gave this forum to us, so respect what we had and help it to improve not to make it messy

we can request the MOD to move this thread @kataria.vikesh, you knw better than me...
coool

ofabhishek said:
we can make the mod's work easy by not making such mistakes repeatedly... i've seen many times that in order to post the newest stuff/news at the latest even before the fellow members some OPs forget to do the proper research about the article/news they are going to post...
Let our forum be less crowded and have the meaningful/relevant threads only...
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these fancy stuff (Google now...etc) won't work practically in india as it is supposed to...
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dear, I know what you want to say & all that. but I think NEXUS 7 & related to JB is not part to related with galaxy R. Few application & threads which is meant to be in developer section are in General posts.
Google now is same in use of JB, its is fancy bt few are used to be in different handsets & now working fine in GALAXY R. we are following what we are seeing in each threads from your elder seniors. so its better not to make this issue hot to make me understand the same. I already put a request to MOD regarding the same & let them check.:angel:

chandrus1983 said:
we can request the MOD to move this thread @kataria.vikesh, you knw better than me...
coool
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yes dear, I already asked to MOD regarding the same. Let them do what for what they are here. Making these kind of topic hot isn't feel pretty. this thing already happend before when topic is being stretched by other people rather than to report to MOD.

Well lets keep it simple it needs to be in app section as it is related to an app. Let the OP himself report it to the MOD to be moved.

chandrus1983 said:
we can request the MOD to move this thread @kataria.vikesh, you knw better than me...
coool
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yes dear, I already asked to MOD regarding the same. Let them do for what they are here. Making these kind of topic hot isn't feel pretty. this thing already happend before when topic is being stretched by other people rather than to report to MOD.

'cooleagle' said:
Well lets keep it simple it needs to be in app section as it is related to an app. Let the OP himself report it to the MOD to be moved.
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dear I already reached to MOD related the same. but dont know what these guys are upto.

@ kataria.vikesh
my post above wasn't thr to point u particularly but it was more for wt i've been observing recently in several threads...
btw, we r here to help each other and make some knowledgeful discussion....my sole intention was to put my point of observation... if anybody feel im making issue hotter or going against this forum's goal im ready to get banned
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ofabhishek said:
@ kataria.vikesh
my post above wasn't thr to point u particularly but it was more for wt i've been observing recently in several threads...
btw, we r here to help each other and make some knowledgeful discussion....my sole intention was to put my point of observation... if anybody feel im making issue hotter or going against this forum's goal im ready to get banned
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First of all, I didn't say or pointed to you. I know the rules & anything belong to XDA. if application doesn't belong to GALAXY R & not available that's why I put that thread in General forum for asking a General Questions regarding the same. second thing about intentions, I never said that you have pointed me personally. we are professionals & we must not feel bad if we are making each other understand about forum. As you can see in my previous post (in the beginning) I was not blaming anybody for anything. You all have right to let me or even anybody knows that this is what, we should do. .??:highfive::laugh:
This matter is already in the eyes of MODs & we should not behave like kids man.. be Happy dear & let the MOD feel like we can manage things as per our own. they have many things to work on..so dont take it otherwise.

Since the MOD has done his work.... Can we please move to the discussion in the OP..... i mean does anyone have any info as to the availibiliy of google now for other devices
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they are porting it to ics as we speak.... they have managed to have it working for some roms wid d exception of voice search.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1747224
Hopefully by the tym we get an upgrade to ics (via samsung or epsylon3) we will be able to use it on our phones without too much of a hassle :-D
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Why are ROM suggestion threads disappearing? Continued!

i wanted to add something but as usual tread like"Why are ROM suggestion threads disappearing?" are being locked as soon as someone starts a conversation, so mods i hope you read this and actually think about it
To All Mods: before you lock this tread, please read it at least twice. I think you forgot what forum is all about. Its about users communicating with each other. Of course i agree with rules but your guys are going overboard with this. Discussion about which rom is perfoming the best for users is very very normal type of tread. Your argument is that there is flamming etc. well ok, but shouldn't moderators "moderate"?? when threads became our of control or people become nasty they you are suppose to lock it. Not lock it as soon it shows up, because you "assume" it will.
I would love to talk to others about how are roms doing on their devices. Yes everyones' usage is different but THE BASICS will always be the same. If a rom is doing exeptionally well for most of the users than we can pretty much agree that is a good rom. This is what we "call good information".
so lets hope you guys understand what im trying to tell you and relax a little

Now your spamming remember mods decisions are final
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Anything ICS is very stable. Its simply preference whether you go touchwiz or aosp. Jelly bean is getting there and almost all share similar problems as they are built from source using many of the same commits. You have many cm10 builds to choose from coming out of project rookie and Vincom has a build out. AOKP for JB includes R4ins builds and a spin off Majick made called Orthus One using R4ins build as a base. I know I listed options and didn't tell you what to pick. Its your phone and your decision. The reason people don't like threads like this is because intentional or not you are putting someone's work above another's. If you must get info on peoples preference then send PM's. There is no need for a public forum debate on what's best. What I like, you may not and vice versa. There aren't bad Roms these days. It really is preference only. This thread will be locked just as your last one was. If you are so worried about stability then stay on ICS. If you must go for JB then simply read the various threads, OP's and go from there. It doesn't take that long to flash a ROM haha.
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not spamming, im just trying to get my point across but i am unable. all im asking and i dont think im the only one is for mods to relax a little.
thanks, have a good day
no need to put someone's work about others?? if it is better then it definitely should be recognized
edit: reminds me of a communism ideology... no need to put someone's work above others.. ha this is too funny

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i wanted to add something but as usual tread like"Why are ROM suggestion threads disappearing?" are being locked as soon as someone starts a conversation, so mods i hope you read this and actually think about it
To All Mods: before you lock this tread, please read it at least twice. I think you forgot what forum is all about. Its about users communicating with each other. Of course i agree with rules but your guys are going overboard with this. Discussion about which rom is perfoming the best for users is very very normal type of tread. Your argument is that there is flamming etc. well ok, but shouldn't moderators "moderate"?? when threads became our of control or people become nasty they you are suppose to lock it. Not lock it as soon it shows up, because you "assume" it will.
I would love to talk to others about how are roms doing on their devices. Yes everyones' usage is different but THE BASICS will always be the same. If a rom is doing exeptionally well for most of the users than we can pretty much agree that is a good rom. This is what we "call good information".
so lets hope you guys understand what im trying to tell you and relax a little
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Isnt there already a thread on new rom ideas??? Maybe thats why those "rom suggestion" threads are getting locked or if u have a suggestion for a rom it should be asked in that roms specific thread so the rom dev can see the suggestion thenselves instead of having to look at another thread
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I want mods to crack down harder on people ASKING QUESTIONS IN THE GENERAL SECTION people who refuse to read and search people who feel this site is a help desk people who by creating these threads demean others hard work but I guess you new guys feel entitled to ruin a once great site huh
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jyazzie110 said:
Isnt there already a thread on new rom ideas??? Maybe thats why those "rom suggestion" threads are getting locked or if u have a suggestion for a rom it should be asked in that roms specific thread so the rom dev can see the suggestion thenselves instead of having to look at another thread
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The OP title is misleading. He actually wants to a best ROM thread. Ie. for TW ICS, AOSP ICS, AOSP JB
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I just want to jump in here and say I agree, some of the moderating here is overzealous. Discussions of battery life / ROM's that he/she enjoys are pertinent. Dealing in absolutes are annoying sometimes, and there's nothing wrong with getting a community's subjective perspective. Moderators should moderate, not control.
The only problem is the userbase here can't be trusted to not erupt into flame fests.
Which should bring the moderators in to MODERATE, not block a thread because it might happen.

whosgotlag said:
I just want to jump in here and say I agree, some of the moderating here is overzealous. Discussions of battery life / ROM's that he/she enjoys are pertinent. Dealing in absolutes are annoying sometimes, and there's nothing wrong with getting a community's subjective perspective. Moderators should moderate, not control.
The only problem is the userbase here can't be trusted to not erupt into flame fests.
Which should bring the moderators in to MODERATE, not block a thread because it might happen.
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I would agree if it was ONE but the issue I see in every other section is that 20+ exist of all those what's the most stable what's the best who gets best battery life who makes my dinner better its stupid if noons could keep it to one thread per subject wars would never happen if they could follow rules and read and search but you know it won't happen so it will open Pandoras box most of us saw it when we had an absence of moderators and it made many of us mad and bitter ask the old timers here it was mad how many ICS threads got made in a day I thank PR for destroying all those threads and putting a stop to most of the problems
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Illnevertell said:
I would agree if it was ONE but the issue I see in every other section is that 20+ exist of all those what's the most stable what's the best who gets best battery life who makes my dinner better its stupid if noons could keep it to one thread per subject wars would never happen if they could follow rules and read and search but you know it won't happen so it will open Pandoras box most of us saw it when we had an absence of moderators and it made many of us mad and bitter ask the old timers here it was mad how many ICS threads got made in a day I thank PR for destroying all those threads and putting a stop to most of the problems
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Lol "old timers"
The fact that you're getting so angry about a forum is honestly really funny
I think just how mods monitor the OT thread for bad language and such we should have a thread for suggestions that gets monitored. Granted, it'll be more work but I'm sure it'll be better than having reports from you flooding them every 50 seconds.
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jerzey111 said:
I would love to talk to others about how are roms doing on their devices. Yes everyones' usage is different but THE BASICS will always be the same. If a rom is doing exeptionally well for most of the users than we can pretty much agree that is a good rom. This is what we "call good information".
so lets hope you guys understand what im trying to tell you and relax a little
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Tons of discussion in the Development section, in each of the ROMs' threads, about how the ROMs are doing on users phones. Give it a look. A thread in the General forum comparing ROMs will, as others have pointed out, end up turning into an argument and be counterproductive. At best it's redundant.

It appears an argument has erupted already.
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Bronk93 said:
It appears an argument has erupted already.
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Reposting threads close by mods is always going to elicit heated discussion and is typically just a play for attention anyway.

MaxCarnage said:
Tons of discussion in the Development section, in each of the ROMs' threads, about how the ROMs are doing on users phones. Give it a look. A thread in the General forum comparing ROMs will, as others have pointed out, end up turning into an argument and be counterproductive. At best it's redundant.
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The development section / ROM threads are scattered, and not a consolidated place to discuss issues/favorites/subjective ideas. I think we need a thread that allows us to discuss our preferences because hopping from thread to thread in the development section is annoying, you can lose some information in the shuffle, and getting others opinions' are helpful.
Battery life, Favorite ROMs, features you like / dislike, settings for DPI, etc all should fall into a "General ROM Specifics Discussion" thread that is MODERATED by PR as it goes on. Not stopped before it has a chance to grow into something good.
I'll agree w/ Illnevertell, this thread is a meta this is why we can't have nice things
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It appears an argument has erupted already.
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I'd like to think this is a discussion still.

whosgotlag said:
The development section / ROM threads are scattered, and not a consolidated place to discuss issues/favorites/subjective ideas. I think we need a thread that allows us to discuss our preferences because hopping from thread to thread in the development section is annoying, you can lose some information in the shuffle, and getting others opinions' are helpful.
Battery life, Favorite ROMs, features you like / dislike, settings for DPI, etc all should fall into a "General ROM Specifics Discussion" thread that is MODERATED by PR as it goes on. Not stopped before it has a chance to grow into something good.
I'll agree w/ Illnevertell, this thread is a meta this is why we can't have nice things
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One thing that I generally see in every thread when someone asks if a ROM is "good" or would suit their needs, the universal answer is "try it for yourself". Every phone is different; what works for some won't work for others. I'm not sure how conducive it is to the development environment to have a thread where everyone is free to get together and give feedback on ROMs in a place where the developers may not see it.

MaxCarnage said:
One thing that I generally see in every thread when someone asks if a ROM is "good" or would suit their needs, the universal answer is "try it for yourself". Every phone is different; what works for some won't work for others. I'm not sure how conducive it is to the development environment to have a thread where everyone is free to get together and give feedback on ROMs in a place where the developers may not see it.
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It's not conducive to the developer environment, it's for the users. Questions like "Is ParanoidAndroid a good ROM?" are stupid, I'm against those.
What I'm not against would be questions/comments like:
What's battery life like on CM10 for you guys?
What settings are your ParanoidAndroid tablet/phablet/phone valued at?
I'm getting 2.5 hours of screen time w/ texting/reddit/tapatalk on X ROM, how're you all doing with it?
I just tried Rezoundbeats on PA, and it works ****ing awesome.
I just got 4.5 hours of screen on time [screenshot]!
I'm confused about AOKP/CM/PA/ETC, what are the benefits of X vs. X.
I've tried X,X,and Y, I've heard good things about X, anyone else on it?
Is anyone using TouchWiz based ROMs? If so why?
Is anyone still using ICS? If so why?
Is anyone using AOSP ROMs? If so why?
There are a number of discussions that could arise from any of the above, and as long as the thread remains flame free they should be allowed to exist because while answers may not be THAT much of a help to you personally, others' insight may prove useful or at the very least interesting.
I'd only be in favor of this thread if it was hosted by PR bassplayer, just like the JB discussion thread.

whosgotlag said:
It's not conducive to the developer environment, it's for the users. Questions like "Is ParanoidAndroid a good ROM?" are stupid, I'm against those.
What I'm not against would be questions/comments like:
What's battery life like on CM10 for you guys?
What settings are your ParanoidAndroid tablet/phablet/phone valued at?
I'm getting 2.5 hours of screen time w/ texting/reddit/tapatalk on X ROM, how're you all doing with it?
I just tried Rezoundbeats on PA, and it works ****ing awesome.
I just got 4.5 hours of screen on time [screenshot]!
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Virtually every one of those questions are better asked (or, more likely, already asked) in their respective development threads.
I'm confused about AOKP/CM/PA/ETC, what are the benefits of X vs. X.
I've tried X,X,and Y, I've heard good things about X, anyone else on it?
Is anyone using TouchWiz based ROMs? If so why?
Is anyone still using ICS? If so why?
Is anyone using AOSP ROMs? If so why?
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Threads that could/should be created in the QA forum as their own topics.
Throwing all these questions/discussions in a single thread would lead to utter chaos and there would be little constructive conversation. Individually threads already often descend into chaos; one thread with no specific topic for discussion would do little better in my opinion. Ultimately, this is all for naught because the thread was already locked and rejected.

I want PR to start giving infractions for every thread made in the wrong section I want infractions for those that won't search those are rules too just like no flaming so why is it I get hit with infractions for breaking rules when others are left with nothing huh where is the fairness in that why is it you can ask questions in general section or dev section why can people start threads on subjects already covered and not get in trouble but if I tell you your wrong and call you out for your lack of etiquette I get the hammer huh why is that fair so welcome to the world it ain't fair y'all keep breaking rules and getting away with it I will continue to stand up and fight and take my punishments
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Illnevertell said:
I want PR to start giving infractions for every thread made in the wrong section I want infractions for those that won't search those are rules too just like no flaming so why is it I get hit with infractions for breaking rules when others are left with nothing huh where is the fairness in that why is it you can ask questions in general section or dev section why can people start threads on subjects already covered and not get in trouble but if I tell you your wrong and call you out for your lack of etiquette I get the hammer huh why is that fair so welcome to the world it ain't fair y'all keep breaking rules and getting away with it I will continue to stand up and fight and take my punishments
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Here's a TLANP (Too long and no punctuation) for all of you
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Here's a TLANP (Too long and no punctuation) for all of you
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That right there = flaming so you should get something for that
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[INFO] [DISCUSSION] Android 6.0.1_ MOB31E + Cataclysm MOD !

Hi folks,
1. First of all this thread should inform you that Cataclysm Mods are still working with Google Stock Images MOB30Y for the Nexus 5 as well as MOB30W for the Nexus 6
2. If you like we can as well use this thread to discuss issues, resolve problems and make sure that we can extent the life of this great MOD for as long as possible.
3. As discussed with the moderator team of XDA i ask all participants to respect that we shall NOT DISCUSS the reason and circumstances of closure of the official threads !
Should you ask yourself why this thread has been set up even though all the information is readily available in the official threads, the reason is simple, they were closed on request of the OP, hence we cannot discuss and help each other out and most users would have instinctively unsubscribed and therefore are not aware that the MOD itself is still working as usual and can be further used. There is no single glitch in the MOD itself and as to the google glitches, they will be taken care of by google themselves.
last but not least, @atl4ntis will see that we don't give up so easily and perhaps he will find ways to provide mods through channels
i'm totally sure that he himself is and will be using nothing else than his own work, it's even possible that he will silently upload his later work to his AFH page, ( hope dies last ) LOL
LINKS TO ORIGINAL THREADS WHICH CONTAIN THE DOWNLOAD LINKS AND MORE !
Nexus 4
[Fully works until and including factory image MOB30H]
Link to latest mod: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=64663005&postcount=4909/
Link to latest factory image MMB29X: http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4/development/fake-nexus-rom-nexus-4-t3230268
Nexus 5
[Fully works until and including factory image MOB31E]
Official [READ ONLY] Cataclysm thread for download links and in depth information
Nexus 6
[Fully works until and including factory image MOB31E]
Official [READ ONLY] Cataclysm thread for download links and in depth information
Nexus 5x
[Only works until and including factory image MMB29V]
Official [READ ONLY] Cataclysm thread for download links and in depth information
Nexus 6p
[Only works until and including factory image MMB29V]
Official [READ ONLY] Cataclysm thread for download links and in depth information
CHANGES TO THE OP
On friendly request and only to avoid possible conflicts, the direct links to the download pages on AFH have been removed. You find those links in the OP of the original, now "read only thread" "by atl4ntis", which are linked above. You can find them where they always have been, just one more click and we are on the safe side, thanks for your understanding
How to install
HERE is a link to a sophisticated guide by @nathanchance as to installation processes while of course only the mod part works with latest google factory image ( system.img )
and be aware that the rooting processes may change over time or did so already.
:good:
It looks like we're gaining momentum
I want to bring to you attention that 2 members have specially contributed to making up my mind that it might be worth to make this thread as well as to gather so many participants in such a short time. special thanks fot this go to:
@ben_pyett @suku_patel_22
Of course special thanks go to @all participants who help to increase the chance that we shall have this great rom/mod for a long time to come while i hope you're @all aware that it can end upon each new google release each month which we don't hope to happen of course.
Further it's absolutely self-evident that the mod-concept fully pays off for us now and for this our special thanks go to, who else than @atl4ntis cheers ( Amen ) LOL

For anyone with issues after updating to latest "Google Play Services"
if you want to revert to older version and prevent play services to be updated in the background do the following:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/general/info-cataclysm-mod-dead-t3307703/post67149956
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For anyone with a 100% wakelock from "Google Account Manager > CMASystemUpdaterService" who does not want to revert play services but wants to get rid of it, do the following:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=66971782&postcount=868
These issues are by no means "Cataclysm-Mod" related but exclusively, like so many times in the past, caused through the latest "Play Services" update and will be resolved eventually as usual

Here goes mine on N6
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Let Cataclysm rest. Don't see any need another thread.
Everything about Cataclysm can be search/read in its original thread that atl4antis has started, should covered 99.99% of the issues..

farsight73 said:
Let Cataclysm rest. Don't see any need another thread.
Everything about Cataclysm can be search/read in its original thread that atl4antis has started, should covered 99.99% of the issues..
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then stay away, it's not mandatory and your opinion whether a thread is needed or not is not interesting to know.
if something is wrong, the mods will let me know, if someone in charge like atl4ntis doesn't like it, he will tell me, if you don't like it, stay off, easy as that and one thing is certain. to post in a thread that it's superfluous is definitely more superfluous than any kind of thread.
i propose "shortsight" instead of "farsight" or narrowminded even better.
@farsight73 basically the reason to make a thead was that i get numerous PMs every day on the matter, hence it's perhaps not that superfluous as you think

farsight73 said:
Let Cataclysm rest. Don't see any need another thread.
Everything about Cataclysm can be search/read in its original thread that atl4antis has started, should covered 99.99% of the issues..
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It might be dead for you, but it's certainly not for the remainder of the community.
You are right that most information is in the locked threads.
But as they've been closed, users are unable to chat, question or discuss.
So I believe that this thread has real value, especially to me...A long time cataclysm user of multiple years so while it continues to work with latest stock image... I'll remain on what I consider the most complete stable feature rich stock solution available.
Here is mine.
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@magnamentis
Great idea for this thread, apologies for some of those PMs... ?
Might be a good idea to switch the order in your OP so that the first link goes back to back to all of the original closed threads and the next link goes to the download, and stick a blank line between them as on a mobile with my bad eyesight they look like a single link, just my opinion.
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ben_pyett said:
Great idea for this thread, apologies for some of those PMs... ?
Might be a good idea to switch the order in your OP so that the first link goes back to back to all of the original closed threads and the next link goes to the download, and stick a blank line between them as on a mobile with my bad eyesight they look like a single link, just my opinion.
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hi, there is no reason to apologise, it was the explanation why i had the idea so that more people can benefit from the discussion, but by no means a complain, rest assured, don't worry
as to your propositions, will immediately get to it, gimme a few always good to know how things appear to other people's eyes, thanks :good:
EDIT: DONE

magnamentis said:
EDIT: DONE
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Good work, love the additions of forever hopeful Alt4ntis hooks. ???
Might also be worth trying to link to Nathan's detailed build instructions if they're still relevant.
Considering flagging the existence of this thread to a selection of positive cataclysm users, even though that'll be blatant promotion. Food for thought.
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ben_pyett said:
Good work, love the additions of forever hopeful Alt4ntis hooks. ???
Might also be worth trying to link to Nathan's detailed build instructions if they're still relevant.
Considering flagging the existence of this thread to a selection of positive cataclysm users, even though that'll be blatant promotion. Food for thought.
Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk
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Linked to @nathanchance his tutorial and yep the more people will use the mod the better chance for the above hinted possibility
i'm reluctant to do so because of all the bad energy it would cause but i would have liked to see this thread in the appropriate device sections. however that would make it 4 threads and we don't want non-readers but only the good guys don't we, hence let's leave it here in this innocent place LOL

salute... to the idea. here's mine. N5.

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The threads seem to have been deleted.

suku_patel_22 said:
The threads seem to have been deleted.
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absolutely not, you might have missed them since they move back in pages due to the fact that default order is by last post date.
you can either cycle trough pages, search or BEST way is to order by number of views which will bring it up on or close to top
shot just made and/or use the links in the OP of this thread which is why i put them there beside other reasons.

Thanks for creating the thread, i wish a Google+ community was created by the dev, so that he can share the ROM and updates without worrying about the source and drama.

magnamentis said:
Hi folks,
1. First of all this thread should inform you that Cataclysm Mods are still working with Google Stock Image MMB29Q and probably will do so for much longer.
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I'm still on Jan security patch & Cata Mod (bcz i don't want to settle for anything less than what Cata offered) but as i rememmber when factory Image for jan security patch was released @atl4ntis told to wait for New Cata mod instead of flashing Dec 23rd one because Google changed system files & probably needs to patch framework again or something . ( some users flashed Dec Mod over Jan Factory image also reported that their build No was changed to old Dec one after flashing Mod )
so isn't this applicable to Feb factory image release as well ? or we don't have much changes in files to be patched for Feb over Jan ?
and is it safe to flash Cata Mod Jan 5 over MMB29Q ? or there may be chance of conflicts ?

magnamentis said:
HERE is a link to a sophisticated guide by @nathanchance as to installation processes while of course only the mod part works with latest google factory image ( system.img )
and be aware that the rooting processes may change over time or did so already.
:good:
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My man

Calling all Cataclysmic Users out there....
Just stirred the pot a little and summoned the troops from the N5 and N6 threads.....
Welcome all....

jineshpatel30 said:
I'm still on Jan security patch & Cata Mod (bcz i don't want to settle for anything less than what Cata offered) but as i rememmber when factory Image for jan security patch was released @atl4ntis told to wait for New Cata mod instead of flashing Dec 23rd one because Google changed system files & probably needs to patch framework again or something . ( some users flashed Dec Mod over Jan Factory image also reported that their build No was changed to old Dec one after flashing Mod )
so isn't this applicable to Feb factory image release as well ? or we don't have much changes in files to be patched for Feb over Jan ?
and is it safe to flash Cata Mod Jan 5 over MMB29Q ? or there may be chance of conflicts ?
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hi, welcome here, your subject is the reason why we posted several screenshots to:
a) proof that cataclysm mod is indeed installed over mmb29q
b) that we would be aware of any flaws due to that fact
in short, no, it's running flawlessly on this side, while your subject is not very far fetched ( good question in other words ) this was one of my motives to launch this thread:
1 - to catch the attention of faithful and positively tuned cataclysm users who don't let go just like that ( turning their flag after the wind LOL )
2 - to raise the attention of @atl4ntis to seed the thought which was mentioned above several times, to provide the mod which he's certainly using to
.....select users through private channels like, best would be channels that cannot be penetrated by trolls, like a slack group or whathaveyou.
i will not bother him personally, he will be aware and make his decisions without bombarding him with "pleases" and more offending monetary offers.
should he consider the thought we shall know in due time, else we shall use what we have as long as it lasts.

@all
just want to inform everyone that i'm running the next best ROM on one of my devices to keep up to speed and for being able to compare directly. this is to prevent eventual statements by trolls, so that i can counter (or confirm) them from first hand experience.
further, but considering our little group her i'm not worried, there are other roms which are well made and well maintained. we know that at the moment none can beat this one due to what makes it so special which after all was the reason for things to happen how they happened.
what i'm trying to say is that we should not speak condescending or in any other way negatively about those because they as well deserve respect.
as said, i'm sure that this post is somewhat superfluous considering who is here but still thought it a good idea what this thread is NOT about :highfive: